Mar 20, 2017 6:37 AM
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thatmodeltankbuilder
"Accept it." ????
nipplepanties
Though I am in support, is there a study of putting ape like features on all but the most recent skulls? That make sense to anyone?
ILikeRespondingWithWillSmithGifs
As a Christian, I respect your opinions
reverendmoss
v
Foxplay
What you believe in does not matter. Because if something is fact it still a fact regardless of what you believe in
prettygirlshavelonghair
Is the one on the far left a monkey then?
MyBigMouth
I can't believe its not butter
TropicalFishMakeExcellentBetweenMealSnacks
Evolution is a fact, not something to "believe" in or not.
Greygem
Somehow ppl think evolution and adaption as per Darwins theory means something would, could or has changed race/species... and that is sad
Kreia
https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/beliefs.jpg
EadEchiC
I demand sauce. You can't be like trump and make a claim without giving evidence. You're missing links.
stormtrooper412
2edgy4me
biolologist
"belief" doesn't imply "faith", my dude.
HandsomeSwede
But that's what it means with regard to the question "evolution or God?"
JuiceBoxer
"If the US is a free country, then why are there prisons?"
thedeg
We shouldve stayed in the period where we had ice coming out of our eye sockets, god damn handy when you need a drink
mwmillertime
http://31.media.tumblr.com/5cf4229695160276650bda2450964afa/tumblr_n1o0jc61Sq1syseo5o3_500.gif
SomeGuyWhoSaysStuff
I accept there are things we don't know or understand & will never know the truth about no matter how much we argue on the Internet about it
PB77
whitewampa
no OP on the chart, proof OP is an anomaly and a faggot
Superdonovan234
Oh my!!
LemmiwinksKingofGerbils
If evolution is true, why is @OP still a faggot?
Overpopulation, you stinking breeder!
razz921
I don't believe I'm a banana mutant, rather I accept the overwhelming evidence that I am one. I'm practically 50% positive.
In a nutshell, science is a tool and how you apply that tool is belief. What we must always be accepting of is both are subject to change.
Hazroth
Everything starts with believing though, like for every discovery you have to believe your own senses first
MoreLikeLawlSchool
That's kind of a separate, existential issue. If you reject what your senses perceive then there is no basis for anything.
True but other parts of the scientific process have to be trusted/believed in as well, an example being the testing methodology
JayBirdyy
Girls must be all over you because of how smart you are
johny3in
You are missing one. /a/tIv72
mateoalejandrow
Why does this feel a little cringy even though there isn't much argument?
ozjuggler
Because OP is being autodidactic. A belief is any idea you accept as true, regardless of whether it has good reason/evidence for it or not.
IconicNebula
Because it's the same guys who say don't shove religion down people's throats then post this with the same titles.
Antidote12
Either belief or acceptance. Different rational reasons. This post implies that having a belief in a thing is less rational than accepting
"Hello m'lady. What perchance you want to be with a real intellectual atheist gentleman?"
Because it posits that there is a difference between the verbs accept and believe. There isn't. There are very different reason behind 1/2
iDrinkDrano
Because most puffins are aggressive self backpatting
Gemall
This
kaboosh5353
My girlfriend doesn't believe in evolution but that does literally nothing between us. Why do people have to believe the same stuff?
Because different means scary to humans
ImBrucemanNoBatwayneFuck
Because people are petty lol
Well, in the case of evolution, it's not a matter of believing in it or not, it's about accepting it or denying it.
I honestly think that, but it doesnt change who she is as a person, know what I mean? At the core of everything, what does it matter?
Stebo57
I don't believe in climate change for the same reason.
I'm confused...are you saying you don't believe it's real, or that you accept the overwhelming scientific evidence in support of it?
I accept the consensus of scientific opinion. Belief is a problematic term. People sincerely believe all kinds of crazy shit.
WeAllLiveInAUserSubmarine
I don't believe in Harvey Dent for the same reason.
Mushroombadger
The bigger debate is man made climate change and how to stop it without costing people money because money.
lovecoloured
Isn't "accept" a naughty word in terms of experimental research?Bc there could be an error you either "reject" or "retain," right?
geoimgur
Eh, just say that you can't come up with a better model, so you'll use the current one.
ProfessorPepe
Reject or fail to reject. Accept and support are dirty words in the science world hahaha.
lordfluffy
The avg Joe isn't a scientist, hasn't looked at the evidence critically, and basically accepts it on someone else's word. Sounds like belief
KingQball
A belief that the person they are taking their word from actually know what they are talking about not that the stuff is true
Example I don't fully understand quantum physics but I believe the people who's life and career are completely about know their shit
*completely about it
OK. So are we in agreement or no? That's more or less what I said.
That's why there's a large amount of scientists who can verify whether something can be proven to be true.
So a guy in a special coat comes and tells you somethings true. Just trust him. He has special knowledge. How can I not see the difference?
1) Scientists don't operate like that. 2) Many scientists don't dress like that. 3) The scientist can back EVERYTHING up with available info
1) Yeah, they kind of do, as far as most people are concerned. 2) I know. 3) That info matters zero if one doesn't understand or study it
1) You're welcome to show me where and when a scientist has ever said "This is true. Trust me!". And yes, teaching people to look up info
CarrowM
@OP My thing is why can't evolution (not exactly we came from monkeys or fish) be part of intelligent design? The Bible basically says >
Because there is not a single shred of scientific evidence to support the idea of intelligent design.
Evolution and self adaptive life seems fairly intelligent to me. Why can't it be the intelligence of our design?
rollipukki
Because there is zero evidence of it. If you want to believe it, sure go ahead. But in science you need to prove it, not disprove it.
If you are interested you might want to check example wiki articles like "Russels Teapot" and "God of the gaps".
there isn't divine intervention right now and life is still progressing. That means there is some sort of self-sustainment process for >
life. Why can't that process be evolution. I think it happens at a much slower rate than science suggests, but religion and science >
don't have to always conflict. Same thing with aliens and religion. Technically God is an alien. I've met one of the very high up people >
in MUFON who is a very religious Christian. I think more scientists should look at religion as a possibility that created science instead >
of something that can be used to disprove religion. They can work together if you look at them as being slightly dependent on the other
MoistTissue
The church killed many scientists before they could even publish their work, the church you know today is very diff from one years ago why?>
kevbot5000
Reality is what remains even if you don't believe in it. Science is our best explanation of that reality.
TeamOneE
Based on our limited scientific knowledge
5A5Wolf
Taught again and again to our careless children.
BendOverAndIllShowYa
Yes. Well said. We will continue to learn and advance our knowledge base. We know so little. Which is why we need more research $$$
No, reality is what is whether we believe in it or not. The fact is most people haven't looked at the evidence critically, accepting or no
The first half is a philip k. dick quote, I extended it. And I like the idea it communicates.
coffeemadness
But it should not become unquestionable doctrine.
brucebernard
Amen! The scientific process ends the moment you stop asking questions and "accept it".
Got that covered usually
The only time you accept it is when you are pushing a knowledge boundary. Then you accept what's know or will be when it is
Shit I meant are not
I.e. tech support lower teir people in stem field. Since basically they aren't going to need to figure stuff out the ones on the cuttingedge
GapingAnalCavity
This is just as snarky as when some people go "you know free healthcare isn't FREE, right?" Yes, we know. You know very well what we mean.
Soconfusedrightnow
Some religious people feel that believing and having faith are the same thing. They literally don't see the value in evidence.
IamtheJubster
But so many dont.
Sauroctonus
Well, there are probably people who think evolution is a belief, which it isn't.
nativeamerican1
SwashbucklingForJustice
This is a better point though--highlighting that science isn't a matter of belief but fact. It's not just semantics.
busted88
Well technically if someone regularly consumes more services than they pay in taxes then, yes, it is free.
squip
So if you have car insurance, and you get in an accident and make a claim, it's free from your point of view?
I would say from a net/net accounting perspective, yes. Free maybe not being the best word, either positive, negative or neutral.
I'd also say that car insurance isn't a good example in this case as it is a rare use service, unlike government services which are frequent
Skittleballs
But they don't.
namiasdf
Yes, yes we do. Canadian here
I mean they, as in those who criticize health care. German here. 34K € knee surgery, not a Cent lost. High five.
czaarticus
GapingAnalCavity has a point
aclarko
He should really get that checked out
THEThadJarvis
Probably needs an anal retread.
BeepBoopBlorpSchlorp
He can't, he doesn't have "free" health care
WeReallyShookThePillarsOfHeavenDidntWeWang
You know free healthcare isn't FREE, right?
Onlyifyouwantto
This is just as sparky as saying I accept the overwhelming evidence in support of evolution
DonaldTrumpsFlaccidHairpiece
You'd be suprised dude. I work in the industry, many don't get the connection and think the government is like a money fairy.
dmax12
Worked in Gov Contracting for years. The system is so broken.
DoctorBambu
"Well they literally print money, sooo..." -a surprising amount of people
Indeed. It is amazing :/
FrankMastrBulge
the government is not a money fairy??
PhiIIipJFry
No, the government is money goblin... You should pay more attention in civics.
lol federal reserve is a crazy machine man. central banks all over the world print money for favors and "big companies" profit and do said
TheKingOfConquerors
The cut civics from the curriculum in my state.
favors to stay above water
So what you're saying more of a money centaur then?
capnsebastian
with the number of Trump voters who thought Obamacare was the official name of a second health care service, no, not everyone knows
Gastromancy
The Facebook debate in this https://www.google.com/amp/www.someecards.com/news/politics/obamacare-rant-shut-down-aca/amp
I'm like 90% sure this is staged. Not because I think people couldn't be that stupid. Because it reads like dialogue from a story.
GoogleFucker
I never get enough of this
andreisokolov
What about the best healthcare ever in 2017?
mytigio
One senators repeated bill proposal. Not news, just well timed to distract us from the actual bill the GOP was drafting
MotionOfTheOcean
You'd be surprised how many religious people claim evolution is only a counter belief. So I can't agree that is the same.
This comes from the source that there is no proven reason that observations have a reason to be understood as truth. You must ASSUME >
observations can collect enough information in order to reveal the truth. This is 100% unable to be proven. Hence relativism.
Yes I would but then, I don't live in the US where most of these wingnuts live. The rest of the planet's christians are on the same page.
Oh no, you'd be off with that one too. Plenty of christian evolution deniers where I'm from, which is otherwise well-educated Sweden.
What I find odd about evolution denial in Christians is that only the most literal reading of the bible directly contradicts evolution. 1/2
Yet most are happy to say that "made the world in 7 days" isn't literal, just a term used to allow us to understand the idea.
I live in Finland and even we have our christian nut cases, even if they are rare.
Look at it this way. The catholic church is 1.27 billion (about 57% of christians) and evolution is completely non-controversial there.
Plenty of other denominations also have the same belief. The people who take the bible literally are drastically in the minority.
I mean, I understand your point, but for a lot of people it really is belief. It's a pure appeal to authority for anyone who cannot (1/2)
look at the research and have the education come to the conclusions themselves. That's belief. We're establishing that belief based (1.5/2)
on evidence found by people we trust as experts in that field. You could make the argument that people of faith do the same thing, (1.75/2)
trusting in the expertise and authority of the priests who know more then themselves. (2/2).
thatmodeltankbuilder
nipplepanties
Though I am in support, is there a study of putting ape like features on all but the most recent skulls? That make sense to anyone?
ILikeRespondingWithWillSmithGifs
As a Christian, I respect your opinions
reverendmoss
Foxplay
What you believe in does not matter. Because if something is fact it still a fact regardless of what you believe in
prettygirlshavelonghair
Is the one on the far left a monkey then?
MyBigMouth
I can't believe its not butter
TropicalFishMakeExcellentBetweenMealSnacks
Evolution is a fact, not something to "believe" in or not.
Greygem
Somehow ppl think evolution and adaption as per Darwins theory means something would, could or has changed race/species... and that is sad
Kreia
https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/beliefs.jpg
EadEchiC
I demand sauce. You can't be like trump and make a claim without giving evidence. You're missing links.
stormtrooper412
2edgy4me
biolologist
"belief" doesn't imply "faith", my dude.
HandsomeSwede
But that's what it means with regard to the question "evolution or God?"
JuiceBoxer
"If the US is a free country, then why are there prisons?"
thedeg
We shouldve stayed in the period where we had ice coming out of our eye sockets, god damn handy when you need a drink
mwmillertime
http://31.media.tumblr.com/5cf4229695160276650bda2450964afa/tumblr_n1o0jc61Sq1syseo5o3_500.gif
SomeGuyWhoSaysStuff
I accept there are things we don't know or understand & will never know the truth about no matter how much we argue on the Internet about it
PB77
whitewampa
no OP on the chart, proof OP is an anomaly and a faggot
Superdonovan234
Oh my!!
LemmiwinksKingofGerbils
If evolution is true, why is @OP still a faggot?
PhysNics
Overpopulation, you stinking breeder!
razz921
I don't believe I'm a banana mutant, rather I accept the overwhelming evidence that I am one. I'm practically 50% positive.
razz921
In a nutshell, science is a tool and how you apply that tool is belief. What we must always be accepting of is both are subject to change.
Hazroth
Everything starts with believing though, like for every discovery you have to believe your own senses first
MoreLikeLawlSchool
That's kind of a separate, existential issue. If you reject what your senses perceive then there is no basis for anything.
Hazroth
True but other parts of the scientific process have to be trusted/believed in as well, an example being the testing methodology
JayBirdyy
Girls must be all over you because of how smart you are
johny3in
You are missing one. /a/tIv72
mateoalejandrow
Why does this feel a little cringy even though there isn't much argument?
ozjuggler
Because OP is being autodidactic. A belief is any idea you accept as true, regardless of whether it has good reason/evidence for it or not.
IconicNebula
Because it's the same guys who say don't shove religion down people's throats then post this with the same titles.
Antidote12
Either belief or acceptance. Different rational reasons. This post implies that having a belief in a thing is less rational than accepting
mateoalejandrow
"Hello m'lady. What perchance you want to be with a real intellectual atheist gentleman?"
Antidote12
Because it posits that there is a difference between the verbs accept and believe. There isn't. There are very different reason behind 1/2
iDrinkDrano
Because most puffins are aggressive self backpatting
Gemall
This
kaboosh5353
My girlfriend doesn't believe in evolution but that does literally nothing between us. Why do people have to believe the same stuff?
mateoalejandrow
Because different means scary to humans
ImBrucemanNoBatwayneFuck
Because people are petty lol
HandsomeSwede
Well, in the case of evolution, it's not a matter of believing in it or not, it's about accepting it or denying it.
kaboosh5353
I honestly think that, but it doesnt change who she is as a person, know what I mean? At the core of everything, what does it matter?
Stebo57
I don't believe in climate change for the same reason.
HandsomeSwede
I'm confused...are you saying you don't believe it's real, or that you accept the overwhelming scientific evidence in support of it?
Stebo57
I accept the consensus of scientific opinion. Belief is a problematic term. People sincerely believe all kinds of crazy shit.
WeAllLiveInAUserSubmarine
I don't believe in Harvey Dent for the same reason.
Mushroombadger
The bigger debate is man made climate change and how to stop it without costing people money because money.
lovecoloured
Isn't "accept" a naughty word in terms of experimental research?Bc there could be an error you either "reject" or "retain," right?
geoimgur
Eh, just say that you can't come up with a better model, so you'll use the current one.
ProfessorPepe
Reject or fail to reject. Accept and support are dirty words in the science world hahaha.
lordfluffy
The avg Joe isn't a scientist, hasn't looked at the evidence critically, and basically accepts it on someone else's word. Sounds like belief
KingQball
A belief that the person they are taking their word from actually know what they are talking about not that the stuff is true
KingQball
Example I don't fully understand quantum physics but I believe the people who's life and career are completely about know their shit
KingQball
*completely about it
lordfluffy
OK. So are we in agreement or no? That's more or less what I said.
HandsomeSwede
That's why there's a large amount of scientists who can verify whether something can be proven to be true.
lordfluffy
So a guy in a special coat comes and tells you somethings true. Just trust him. He has special knowledge. How can I not see the difference?
HandsomeSwede
1) Scientists don't operate like that. 2) Many scientists don't dress like that. 3) The scientist can back EVERYTHING up with available info
lordfluffy
1) Yeah, they kind of do, as far as most people are concerned. 2) I know. 3) That info matters zero if one doesn't understand or study it
HandsomeSwede
1) You're welcome to show me where and when a scientist has ever said "This is true. Trust me!". And yes, teaching people to look up info
CarrowM
@OP My thing is why can't evolution (not exactly we came from monkeys or fish) be part of intelligent design? The Bible basically says >
HandsomeSwede
Because there is not a single shred of scientific evidence to support the idea of intelligent design.
CarrowM
Evolution and self adaptive life seems fairly intelligent to me. Why can't it be the intelligence of our design?
rollipukki
Because there is zero evidence of it. If you want to believe it, sure go ahead. But in science you need to prove it, not disprove it.
rollipukki
If you are interested you might want to check example wiki articles like "Russels Teapot" and "God of the gaps".
CarrowM
there isn't divine intervention right now and life is still progressing. That means there is some sort of self-sustainment process for >
CarrowM
life. Why can't that process be evolution. I think it happens at a much slower rate than science suggests, but religion and science >
CarrowM
don't have to always conflict. Same thing with aliens and religion. Technically God is an alien. I've met one of the very high up people >
CarrowM
in MUFON who is a very religious Christian. I think more scientists should look at religion as a possibility that created science instead >
CarrowM
of something that can be used to disprove religion. They can work together if you look at them as being slightly dependent on the other
MoistTissue
The church killed many scientists before they could even publish their work, the church you know today is very diff from one years ago why?>
kevbot5000
Reality is what remains even if you don't believe in it. Science is our best explanation of that reality.
TeamOneE
Based on our limited scientific knowledge
5A5Wolf
Taught again and again to our careless children.
BendOverAndIllShowYa
Yes. Well said. We will continue to learn and advance our knowledge base. We know so little. Which is why we need more research $$$
lordfluffy
No, reality is what is whether we believe in it or not. The fact is most people haven't looked at the evidence critically, accepting or no
kevbot5000
The first half is a philip k. dick quote, I extended it. And I like the idea it communicates.
coffeemadness
But it should not become unquestionable doctrine.
brucebernard
Amen! The scientific process ends the moment you stop asking questions and "accept it".
KingQball
Got that covered usually
KingQball
The only time you accept it is when you are pushing a knowledge boundary. Then you accept what's know or will be when it is
KingQball
Shit I meant are not
KingQball
I.e. tech support lower teir people in stem field. Since basically they aren't going to need to figure stuff out the ones on the cuttingedge
GapingAnalCavity
This is just as snarky as when some people go "you know free healthcare isn't FREE, right?" Yes, we know. You know very well what we mean.
Soconfusedrightnow
Some religious people feel that believing and having faith are the same thing. They literally don't see the value in evidence.
IamtheJubster
But so many dont.
Sauroctonus
Well, there are probably people who think evolution is a belief, which it isn't.
nativeamerican1
SwashbucklingForJustice
This is a better point though--highlighting that science isn't a matter of belief but fact. It's not just semantics.
busted88
Well technically if someone regularly consumes more services than they pay in taxes then, yes, it is free.
squip
So if you have car insurance, and you get in an accident and make a claim, it's free from your point of view?
busted88
I would say from a net/net accounting perspective, yes. Free maybe not being the best word, either positive, negative or neutral.
busted88
I'd also say that car insurance isn't a good example in this case as it is a rare use service, unlike government services which are frequent
Skittleballs
But they don't.
namiasdf
Yes, yes we do. Canadian here
Skittleballs
I mean they, as in those who criticize health care. German here. 34K € knee surgery, not a Cent lost. High five.
czaarticus
GapingAnalCavity has a point
aclarko
He should really get that checked out
THEThadJarvis
Probably needs an anal retread.
BeepBoopBlorpSchlorp
He can't, he doesn't have "free" health care
WeReallyShookThePillarsOfHeavenDidntWeWang
You know free healthcare isn't FREE, right?
Onlyifyouwantto
This is just as sparky as saying I accept the overwhelming evidence in support of evolution
DonaldTrumpsFlaccidHairpiece
You'd be suprised dude. I work in the industry, many don't get the connection and think the government is like a money fairy.
dmax12
Worked in Gov Contracting for years. The system is so broken.
DoctorBambu
"Well they literally print money, sooo..." -a surprising amount of people
DonaldTrumpsFlaccidHairpiece
Indeed. It is amazing :/
FrankMastrBulge
the government is not a money fairy??
PhiIIipJFry
No, the government is money goblin... You should pay more attention in civics.
FrankMastrBulge
lol federal reserve is a crazy machine man. central banks all over the world print money for favors and "big companies" profit and do said
TheKingOfConquerors
The cut civics from the curriculum in my state.
FrankMastrBulge
favors to stay above water
PhiIIipJFry
So what you're saying more of a money centaur then?
capnsebastian
with the number of Trump voters who thought Obamacare was the official name of a second health care service, no, not everyone knows
Gastromancy
The Facebook debate in this https://www.google.com/amp/www.someecards.com/news/politics/obamacare-rant-shut-down-aca/amp
PhiIIipJFry
I'm like 90% sure this is staged. Not because I think people couldn't be that stupid. Because it reads like dialogue from a story.
GoogleFucker
I never get enough of this
andreisokolov
What about the best healthcare ever in 2017?
mytigio
One senators repeated bill proposal. Not news, just well timed to distract us from the actual bill the GOP was drafting
MotionOfTheOcean
You'd be surprised how many religious people claim evolution is only a counter belief. So I can't agree that is the same.
dmax12
This comes from the source that there is no proven reason that observations have a reason to be understood as truth. You must ASSUME >
dmax12
observations can collect enough information in order to reveal the truth. This is 100% unable to be proven. Hence relativism.
GapingAnalCavity
Yes I would but then, I don't live in the US where most of these wingnuts live. The rest of the planet's christians are on the same page.
HandsomeSwede
Oh no, you'd be off with that one too. Plenty of christian evolution deniers where I'm from, which is otherwise well-educated Sweden.
mytigio
What I find odd about evolution denial in Christians is that only the most literal reading of the bible directly contradicts evolution. 1/2
mytigio
Yet most are happy to say that "made the world in 7 days" isn't literal, just a term used to allow us to understand the idea.
MotionOfTheOcean
I live in Finland and even we have our christian nut cases, even if they are rare.
GapingAnalCavity
Look at it this way. The catholic church is 1.27 billion (about 57% of christians) and evolution is completely non-controversial there.
GapingAnalCavity
Plenty of other denominations also have the same belief. The people who take the bible literally are drastically in the minority.
mytigio
I mean, I understand your point, but for a lot of people it really is belief. It's a pure appeal to authority for anyone who cannot (1/2)
mytigio
look at the research and have the education come to the conclusions themselves. That's belief. We're establishing that belief based (1.5/2)
mytigio
on evidence found by people we trust as experts in that field. You could make the argument that people of faith do the same thing, (1.75/2)
mytigio
trusting in the expertise and authority of the priests who know more then themselves. (2/2).