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DaShanghaiKid
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Sm9yCg
Your ancestors were mostly kicked out of Europe for being unbearable extremists - compared to the other Europeans of 18th to 19th century.
itouchedapenguinonce
I always wanted to move to america, even got a job there for 2 years! Never managed to make the move perm, feel like i dodged a bullet now
immortalbucket
GQP approved
p0ck3ts4nd
Grab them bootstraps, girl. Make it happen! /s
ThePakistallion
Silly teacher… clearly you should be “moving” stocks and funds around. Those people benefit society and deserve them most money!!! /s
BigBlue6
and it's been this way for a century, boy did I choose my career poorly if the money was important!
WhistlinDickC
Oooh damn, I forgot all about the plasma clinic, might make the property taxes on time this year after all.
GoobytheGoobinator
Low paid teachers = less quality teachers = less quality education = future uneducated masses = workerbees for big corp working for low pay.
You know, just the way our country wants it/us. Funded by our big businesses and our bought/paid-for politicians will keep making it happen~
Commentmeister
I like most Americans I meet but this explains so much about what I see on tv
dogoftheAMS
Man I used to teach in Japan and you could nearly support a family on my wage. Ye need an uprising
TJOPootertoot
This makes me deeply, deeply sad.
osteoecstasy
The education system is the root of all problems we are facing lately. We can’t expect problems and mentalities to change with law.
We can change it with the slow burn of education
Huttulungaronk
I'm soooo tired of your shit US.
remindmetostopprocrastinating
It’s not “donating” if you’re getting paid. She’s literally selling her blood to pay for food & rent.
pretendthisisoriginal
My fiancé got his credential & literally stopped teaching bc his training year was so horrific. It’s not a joke. Pay them more.
GoBiggsOrGoHome61
You should probably sell the plasma instead of donating it then :-P. Seriously though, that’s some fucked to shit.
fastjeff
You know she could sell out and be financially moderately comfortable, but she cares too much.
MosquitoHawker
Y’all need to wrap your heads around the reality that a certain political party NEEDS you to be stupid in order to remain solvent.
on the upside I have America's largest union to thank for my plight!
ToastedVanilla
I quit after 1 year. It was torturous working for less than minimum wage. Now I earn big money doing sales. I am not from the US btw.
ChemicalG
I'm from the US and seriously considering education because of the generous income, but I also have a STEM degree
RoyDMercer
Keep voting Mitch into office. He'll fix it! /s
starlord56
The isse is peope need to vote in the primaries not just major elections.
GrmpyWzzrd
can't this turtle neck just finally bite the dust? I usually don't wish that to anyone but he is an exception
AntennaDibb
the right wingers want the american populace stupid, easily manipulated, and ignorant. they will never support education.
SpyofBlock
people really sit inside all day and write things like this
GorgeouslyDefinite
An Australian writes: A situation seemingly not unique to the US either.
I wouldn't say that.HBSU grad from the south there was a ton of support from the state and those right wingers.They paid for my college even
They hate education
biclighter
Welcome to Sweden, where we don't even get paid for our blood plasma.
CaptnRisky
Same in Australia.
FreshWater13
do your teachers have to work 2 extra jobs too?
StoreCitizen
No, ofc not.
desertmanatee
She must have a fuck ton of bills!
Floridandian
Food, electricity, rent, her lifestyle is simply outrageous!/s
EroticZombiePants
Master's Degree, so Yes, she's likely 100k in debt.
Pooprocketpower
My teaching masters cost $4600
RobodocCheese
Man, 20-something years ago that was about a single semester at a state college for me.
California state college, but it was a while ago
llortamai
Probably should cut down on the avocado toast..
sozensloth
Or maybe she should make coffee at home
00LimaRomeo
Why don't Americans emigrate? Or do they?
Takemeleaveme
Some do, my friend just moved to Japan! But it's very expensive to move out of the USA, they make it that way on purpose so we don't leave
Nowhere will take us.
Australia will take you! Might take a bit of time though.
Check this out first: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-18/australian-migrants-culture-shock-workplace-education-sport/100364028
Woodturner360
What the hell is she spending all her money on? I’m a teacher, master’s degree, 8 years experience. I’m middle class not poor.
darkdragonempress
Some states have absurdly low rates. Here in Texas the minimum salary they can start you at is 24k a year.
B3N15
Also heavily depends on where you live.
While placement does make a difference, I looked up Texas since you mentioned it. Zero years experience base salary is 33,660.
You’re right. I was using Info from a couple years ago. Thanks for the update.
allawd
Article states her teaching salary is $55,000/year in Versailles, KY.
That’s more than I make.
takingupspace
Do you have a Master's degree and 16 years of experience in your field?
No, I have a master’s degree and only 7 years experience in my field — teaching. I get paid around $50k, enough to pay the bills.
EllisTomago
Why doesn't she just make meth?
claydwilli
ha fucking ha
detectivepopcornmmmmm
crittercuz
confanity
If everybody did it, it would crash the meth market and they'd be back at square one.
ChristosMylordos
I read "take" and thought "that really doesn't help with money problems"
LeSethX
A documentary on that was made. I think they then make too much money and get taxed too much. I dunno, didnt see the ending.
APerfectlyNormalPieceOfToast
It says TWO extra jobs.
SimonDesrosiers
Making and selling!
Maxgaap
Masters in art education
IliveIdyeIliveagain
(Actually don't)
delaney731
She just needs that final push... cancer
beez428
With all the shootings that'd probly be the safer route.
FurtiveGlancer
Or just OnlyFans
SuperIncoherentRantingMan
That's reserved for the teachers with all of the above + cancer. Can't flood the market or no one wins.
duffman3335
Market's flooded.
DrasticBastard
English major.
panamjck
P.E. teacheer
themissingventure
They can't. They don't teach actual chemistry in HS anymore, so they wouldn't know how.
MaxxStrike
Why would a high school teacher need a high school class to learn to make meth.
boxerowner
That’s methed up.
jarjarbinks
Myslepra
Super easy to make tho. More like dont have access to the starting material. :D
ihaveapunningclan
Easy, just steal it from a passing train.
TheEmperorsTrueChampion
Nah. No need just make shake and bake like every method dealer anymore
ThePunnyGuy
Just watch Breaking Bad, then. /s
Couchwarrior1337
Must of missed a step, accidentally made cotton candy flavored rock candy.
SupernaturalReactions
Falkh12
HAL!
SocialismForTheRichCapitalismForThePoor
It's the Republicans who are at war with schools, not our ancestors.
mksu
Our ancestors voted for Republicans.
Mx7733
Same tactics the church used in the dark ages, keep them dumb, keep them complacent.
ShadowbanMyAss
Democrats sure are doing their best to help
thedayofdays
US spends more per student than nearly every other developed nation. It ain't the budget.
Strategicgnomer
No, I think they're saying, America shames it's ancestors with it's actions.
Then why in a majority red state did the state pay for my and most of my class mates college education?
Trinboi
We like anecdotes here!
Seems like imgur does since they upvote anecdotes over real hard proof all the time
Keifer6644
DOWNVOTERS EXPLAIN YOUR DOWNVOTE
somerandomusernamebecauseididntlikemyoldone
The phrase means that our actions are shaming our ancestors not that the ancestors did anything wrong
Angrierthanthatguy
Our ancestors actually put some pretty good union standards in place. Ancestors is a really strong term to refer to people born 60-80's
ryanforehand811
The school system has been shit for a long time. Underpaid under financed over crowded the blame is on the entire government not just repubs
lietotheelderly
This account was created yesterday. It’s intended to polarize you. No one is actually against teachers. Drink a glass of water.
You're out of your fucking mind if you think the GOP isn't against public education and, by extension, teachers.
I never said any of this.
If you don't see how "No one is actually against teachers" necessarily means "The GOP isn't actually against teachers," you're pretty dumb.
storebrandproductmascot
Tell it to any of the teachers currently being harassed because of the CRT boogeyman. Or the teachers unions GOP keeps killing.
Tell the teacher this account was made two days ago? Drink a glass of water.
Walk me through the logic where teachers' problems I read about in the news aren't real because someone has a new Imgur account.
SegitaHunter
On this site its always Republicans fault. Just an observation I made.
Of course its always a republicans fault on imgur,why because most of them live in an isolated bubble and believe all they hear as the truth
Weblord
I see that too. In this case, it does seem to be part of GOPs long game... dumb people are easier to control, so cut schooling budgets.
sphericalworld
Here’s the thing, post a Cuomo article and you’ll get all the left support you can handle. Or suggest Bill Clinton go to jail if he abused>
women. Or if cheating gov officials should go to jail. Libs agree on plenty of topics. But the GOP hypocrisy is f’ing overwhelming right now
My parents grew up in lefty ruled country and you had 2 choices. Yellow or Black drink.
See here the irony is that the Right will scream freedom while using the government they claim to hate to oppress minorities.
I'm just saying we're making fun of how people look like based on who they voted for. That's apparently what left is against for. 1
Left for me in USA represent oppression from my experience and my family experience. But I'm not from USA so GL. ;) 4
Meryck
Left in the USA is still right of center for the rest of the world.
Also my dad got jailed several times for stuff he didn't do. Simply he wasn't part of "The System". Absurd stuff. 3
Lifk
There is like a strange smell of bullshit. Any person that experience a dictature wouldnt compare it to US center democrat. Stop larping.
I mean that's kinda the same across the entire USA. Republicans haven't really had any interest in contributing to the country.
And when I say that left scares me more than right is a fact. Scarry fact...
But left is bussy with themselfs looking good in othwr peoples eyes and right is selfish af.
Now if You look at budget for migrants and war youd actually couls affor a decent school system.
I agree with you on that to some point but Im from EU. Small country.Irrelevant one.
My point is that we need to talk smack about both sides. This site has no room for debate anymore.
KBlackburn
You are not entitled to your own facts. "Alternative facts," they call them. Or to "disagree with the facts," they tried that one too.
Facts, I have heard it said, don't care about one's feelings.
Jernau
Maybe just talk about positive and negative behaviour without making assumptions about politics. That said: vaccine = good, sedition = bad.
I'll vaccinate next week even though I think they shouldnt be forced. When Sputnik is illegal and Chinese one is all good. Fishy.
dudehiemer
Education in the USA is a fucking disgrace.
FlaccidHamster
How so? it says right there we have people with years of experience and masters degrees as our teachers
Chimichanga007
But billionaires are job creators and we need them to get richer.
CraftyGiant
you forgot your /s
siilverbolt3
Hey if I could read this I'd be very upset.
brotherbuzz
LIVING in the USA is a fucking disgrace
Lightsmith
In USA's defense, its also bad in some third world countries. /s
Uknomad11
Lots of third world countries are developing ( improving ), unfortunately America isn't it's regressing.
dragonherder
Education funding and what we pay teachers and the amount of thought we put into it are the larger problems. Education in the US is so
varied and the like. One place it can be great and another it sucks. It is also partially on students and parents to learn beyond what the
homework and tests say they need to, but that is never really pushed at home.
GeimhreadhAgTeacht
Visited cousin, 16, he had photocopy sheets for history homework, I'd say the level was what we'd give a 10yr old in Ireland. I was shocked!
Autisticawkwardpenguin
As an American growing up on the rural west coast who visited an even smaller town. The middle schoolers were at my 2nd grade level.
It’s not all mandated to perform at/on the same level across the country. Simply moving will make it near impossible to graduate high school
It really comes down to the atrocity of schools being largely locally funded which has inequality baked in.
bmwcrafters
Yes, we know
arewenotkingsandqueenstogether
As a teacher, I agree. Shameful how we give our kids the leavings and discards
Insomnia297
which explains all the other disgraces
NM156
But if we educate them, how will we explain how free health care is bad? /s
JanieKSmith
America is a fucking disgrace, I say that as an American.
Yes it is, so much so I decided to leave as an engineer and money wasn't in the top 20 as to way I choose to leave. Its a sinking ship
override367
I keep thinking of an onion article where Obama pledged to make America less of "a disgusting embarrassing shithole". I think about it a lot
Except for he made it an even more sgusting embarrassing shithole. Just no one called him on it.He spead up the demise by about a decade
harrywindlehw101
Yep, but the fixing the education system is the first step in ensuring that next generation will do better than the last.
No it won't.The structure of how the system is wrong to beging with,you can't have 39%of the population get college degrees.Fix the debt 1st
shmekie
Honestly we’re at the point where there are too many things to fix to call any one of them the first step to a better life
No there is one good first step fi the debt and balance the budget. Because when that turns bad then nothing else will matter
Nah the environment going to shit is objectively more important than numbers on a paper
Ploty
I read she is educated. Now prejudice and discrimmination toward women, colour stands in the way to employ her
LordElups
I've read this comment a dozen times. Still don't understand it but I love the flow.
Sloppydrunkcatlady
Yep. Looking to get out this May. Not fuckin worth it.
I did and it was the best choice I ever made, I left this past may. All I can say is do not wait the dollar is slipping fast
I'm finishing out the year then I'm out. Going to study instructional design between now and then
Where you planning on heading to
Hopefully find a job as an instructional designer
Mimsey
At all levels. At university I was regularly screwed by professors who earned $150k+/yr that would have TAs "teach" their courses for them.
betwitched
Most professors don’t get anywhere close to that, way under $100,000
I was in engineering. Engineering professors usually make $100k across the US after their first few years.
HelloDarknessMyOld
Time to join the police force. I know narcos that easily make over 100k a year with OT and way more when "forfeiture" is included.
https://transparentnevada.com/salaries/las-vegas-metro-police-department/
Fuck that, be a CO https://transparentnevada.com/salaries/2020/las-vegas-metro-police-department/paul-g-elizondo/ fucker get 203k it OT
Allegedly because your success at the PhD level is based on how much you rake in for the university through research grants.
belthasarthegreat
I mean, yes. Their pay is that high for running research groups not teaching. Teaching profs pull down 40-60k/yr depending on experience.
And yes, it is a mistake to believe places with rich research in the department will intrinsically have better courses.
So teaching ability is irrelevent so long as you curve most of your classes to passing grades, and you're incentivized...
to dedicate much more time to writing grant proposals and doing research. So ALL levels of education in America are ruined by capitalism.
KafkasKarma
What about HS and elementary teachers?
Sm9yCg
Your ancestors were mostly kicked out of Europe for being unbearable extremists - compared to the other Europeans of 18th to 19th century.
itouchedapenguinonce
I always wanted to move to america, even got a job there for 2 years! Never managed to make the move perm, feel like i dodged a bullet now
immortalbucket
GQP approved
p0ck3ts4nd
Grab them bootstraps, girl. Make it happen! /s
ThePakistallion
Silly teacher… clearly you should be “moving” stocks and funds around. Those people benefit society and deserve them most money!!! /s
BigBlue6
and it's been this way for a century, boy did I choose my career poorly if the money was important!
WhistlinDickC
Oooh damn, I forgot all about the plasma clinic, might make the property taxes on time this year after all.
GoobytheGoobinator
Low paid teachers = less quality teachers = less quality education = future uneducated masses = workerbees for big corp working for low pay.
GoobytheGoobinator
You know, just the way our country wants it/us. Funded by our big businesses and our bought/paid-for politicians will keep making it happen~
Commentmeister
I like most Americans I meet but this explains so much about what I see on tv
dogoftheAMS
Man I used to teach in Japan and you could nearly support a family on my wage. Ye need an uprising
TJOPootertoot
This makes me deeply, deeply sad.
osteoecstasy
The education system is the root of all problems we are facing lately. We can’t expect problems and mentalities to change with law.
osteoecstasy
We can change it with the slow burn of education
Huttulungaronk
I'm soooo tired of your shit US.
remindmetostopprocrastinating
It’s not “donating” if you’re getting paid. She’s literally selling her blood to pay for food & rent.
pretendthisisoriginal
My fiancé got his credential & literally stopped teaching bc his training year was so horrific. It’s not a joke. Pay them more.
GoBiggsOrGoHome61
You should probably sell the plasma instead of donating it then :-P. Seriously though, that’s some fucked to shit.
fastjeff
You know she could sell out and be financially moderately comfortable, but she cares too much.
MosquitoHawker
Y’all need to wrap your heads around the reality that a certain political party NEEDS you to be stupid in order to remain solvent.
BigBlue6
on the upside I have America's largest union to thank for my plight!
ToastedVanilla
I quit after 1 year. It was torturous working for less than minimum wage. Now I earn big money doing sales. I am not from the US btw.
ChemicalG
I'm from the US and seriously considering education because of the generous income, but I also have a STEM degree
RoyDMercer
Keep voting Mitch into office. He'll fix it! /s
starlord56
The isse is peope need to vote in the primaries not just major elections.
GrmpyWzzrd
can't this turtle neck just finally bite the dust? I usually don't wish that to anyone but he is an exception
AntennaDibb
the right wingers want the american populace stupid, easily manipulated, and ignorant. they will never support education.
SpyofBlock
people really sit inside all day and write things like this
GorgeouslyDefinite
An Australian writes: A situation seemingly not unique to the US either.
starlord56
I wouldn't say that.HBSU grad from the south there was a ton of support from the state and those right wingers.They paid for my college even
starlord56
They hate education
biclighter
Welcome to Sweden, where we don't even get paid for our blood plasma.
CaptnRisky
Same in Australia.
FreshWater13
do your teachers have to work 2 extra jobs too?
StoreCitizen
No, ofc not.
desertmanatee
She must have a fuck ton of bills!
Floridandian
Food, electricity, rent, her lifestyle is simply outrageous!/s
EroticZombiePants
Master's Degree, so Yes, she's likely 100k in debt.
Pooprocketpower
My teaching masters cost $4600
RobodocCheese
Man, 20-something years ago that was about a single semester at a state college for me.
Pooprocketpower
California state college, but it was a while ago
llortamai
Probably should cut down on the avocado toast..
sozensloth
Or maybe she should make coffee at home
00LimaRomeo
Why don't Americans emigrate? Or do they?
Takemeleaveme
Some do, my friend just moved to Japan! But it's very expensive to move out of the USA, they make it that way on purpose so we don't leave
llortamai
Nowhere will take us.
00LimaRomeo
Australia will take you! Might take a bit of time though.
00LimaRomeo
Check this out first: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-18/australian-migrants-culture-shock-workplace-education-sport/100364028
Woodturner360
What the hell is she spending all her money on? I’m a teacher, master’s degree, 8 years experience. I’m middle class not poor.
darkdragonempress
Some states have absurdly low rates. Here in Texas the minimum salary they can start you at is 24k a year.
B3N15
Also heavily depends on where you live.
Woodturner360
While placement does make a difference, I looked up Texas since you mentioned it. Zero years experience base salary is 33,660.
darkdragonempress
You’re right. I was using Info from a couple years ago. Thanks for the update.
allawd
Article states her teaching salary is $55,000/year in Versailles, KY.
Woodturner360
That’s more than I make.
takingupspace
Do you have a Master's degree and 16 years of experience in your field?
Woodturner360
No, I have a master’s degree and only 7 years experience in my field — teaching. I get paid around $50k, enough to pay the bills.
EllisTomago
Why doesn't she just make meth?
claydwilli
ha fucking ha
detectivepopcornmmmmm
crittercuz
confanity
If everybody did it, it would crash the meth market and they'd be back at square one.
ChristosMylordos
I read "take" and thought "that really doesn't help with money problems"
LeSethX
A documentary on that was made. I think they then make too much money and get taxed too much. I dunno, didnt see the ending.
APerfectlyNormalPieceOfToast
It says TWO extra jobs.
SimonDesrosiers
Making and selling!
Maxgaap
Masters in art education
IliveIdyeIliveagain
delaney731
She just needs that final push... cancer
beez428
With all the shootings that'd probly be the safer route.
FurtiveGlancer
Or just OnlyFans
SuperIncoherentRantingMan
That's reserved for the teachers with all of the above + cancer. Can't flood the market or no one wins.
duffman3335
Market's flooded.
DrasticBastard
English major.
panamjck
P.E. teacheer
themissingventure
They can't. They don't teach actual chemistry in HS anymore, so they wouldn't know how.
MaxxStrike
Why would a high school teacher need a high school class to learn to make meth.
boxerowner
That’s methed up.
jarjarbinks
Myslepra
Super easy to make tho. More like dont have access to the starting material. :D
ihaveapunningclan
Easy, just steal it from a passing train.
TheEmperorsTrueChampion
Nah. No need just make shake and bake like every method dealer anymore
ThePunnyGuy
Just watch Breaking Bad, then. /s
Couchwarrior1337
Must of missed a step, accidentally made cotton candy flavored rock candy.
themissingventure
SupernaturalReactions
Falkh12
HAL!
SocialismForTheRichCapitalismForThePoor
It's the Republicans who are at war with schools, not our ancestors.
mksu
Our ancestors voted for Republicans.
Mx7733
Same tactics the church used in the dark ages, keep them dumb, keep them complacent.
ShadowbanMyAss
Democrats sure are doing their best to help
thedayofdays
US spends more per student than nearly every other developed nation. It ain't the budget.
Strategicgnomer
No, I think they're saying, America shames it's ancestors with it's actions.
starlord56
Then why in a majority red state did the state pay for my and most of my class mates college education?
Trinboi
We like anecdotes here!
starlord56
Seems like imgur does since they upvote anecdotes over real hard proof all the time
Keifer6644
DOWNVOTERS EXPLAIN YOUR DOWNVOTE
somerandomusernamebecauseididntlikemyoldone
The phrase means that our actions are shaming our ancestors not that the ancestors did anything wrong
Angrierthanthatguy
Our ancestors actually put some pretty good union standards in place. Ancestors is a really strong term to refer to people born 60-80's
ryanforehand811
The school system has been shit for a long time. Underpaid under financed over crowded the blame is on the entire government not just repubs
lietotheelderly
This account was created yesterday. It’s intended to polarize you. No one is actually against teachers. Drink a glass of water.
mksu
You're out of your fucking mind if you think the GOP isn't against public education and, by extension, teachers.
lietotheelderly
I never said any of this.
mksu
If you don't see how "No one is actually against teachers" necessarily means "The GOP isn't actually against teachers," you're pretty dumb.
storebrandproductmascot
Tell it to any of the teachers currently being harassed because of the CRT boogeyman. Or the teachers unions GOP keeps killing.
lietotheelderly
Tell the teacher this account was made two days ago? Drink a glass of water.
storebrandproductmascot
Walk me through the logic where teachers' problems I read about in the news aren't real because someone has a new Imgur account.
SegitaHunter
On this site its always Republicans fault. Just an observation I made.
starlord56
Of course its always a republicans fault on imgur,why because most of them live in an isolated bubble and believe all they hear as the truth
Weblord
I see that too. In this case, it does seem to be part of GOPs long game... dumb people are easier to control, so cut schooling budgets.
sphericalworld
Here’s the thing, post a Cuomo article and you’ll get all the left support you can handle. Or suggest Bill Clinton go to jail if he abused>
sphericalworld
women. Or if cheating gov officials should go to jail. Libs agree on plenty of topics. But the GOP hypocrisy is f’ing overwhelming right now
SegitaHunter
My parents grew up in lefty ruled country and you had 2 choices. Yellow or Black drink.
sphericalworld
See here the irony is that the Right will scream freedom while using the government they claim to hate to oppress minorities.
SegitaHunter
I'm just saying we're making fun of how people look like based on who they voted for. That's apparently what left is against for. 1
SegitaHunter
Left for me in USA represent oppression from my experience and my family experience. But I'm not from USA so GL. ;) 4
Meryck
Left in the USA is still right of center for the rest of the world.
SegitaHunter
Also my dad got jailed several times for stuff he didn't do. Simply he wasn't part of "The System". Absurd stuff. 3
Lifk
There is like a strange smell of bullshit. Any person that experience a dictature wouldnt compare it to US center democrat. Stop larping.
SocialismForTheRichCapitalismForThePoor
I mean that's kinda the same across the entire USA. Republicans haven't really had any interest in contributing to the country.
SegitaHunter
And when I say that left scares me more than right is a fact. Scarry fact...
SegitaHunter
But left is bussy with themselfs looking good in othwr peoples eyes and right is selfish af.
SegitaHunter
Now if You look at budget for migrants and war youd actually couls affor a decent school system.
SegitaHunter
I agree with you on that to some point but Im from EU. Small country.Irrelevant one.
SegitaHunter
My point is that we need to talk smack about both sides. This site has no room for debate anymore.
KBlackburn
You are not entitled to your own facts. "Alternative facts," they call them. Or to "disagree with the facts," they tried that one too.
KBlackburn
Facts, I have heard it said, don't care about one's feelings.
Jernau
Maybe just talk about positive and negative behaviour without making assumptions about politics. That said: vaccine = good, sedition = bad.
SegitaHunter
I'll vaccinate next week even though I think they shouldnt be forced. When Sputnik is illegal and Chinese one is all good. Fishy.
dudehiemer
Education in the USA is a fucking disgrace.
FlaccidHamster
How so? it says right there we have people with years of experience and masters degrees as our teachers
Chimichanga007
But billionaires are job creators and we need them to get richer.
CraftyGiant
you forgot your /s
siilverbolt3
Hey if I could read this I'd be very upset.
brotherbuzz
LIVING in the USA is a fucking disgrace
Lightsmith
In USA's defense, its also bad in some third world countries. /s
Uknomad11
Lots of third world countries are developing ( improving ), unfortunately America isn't it's regressing.
dragonherder
Education funding and what we pay teachers and the amount of thought we put into it are the larger problems. Education in the US is so
dragonherder
varied and the like. One place it can be great and another it sucks. It is also partially on students and parents to learn beyond what the
dragonherder
homework and tests say they need to, but that is never really pushed at home.
GeimhreadhAgTeacht
Visited cousin, 16, he had photocopy sheets for history homework, I'd say the level was what we'd give a 10yr old in Ireland. I was shocked!
Autisticawkwardpenguin
As an American growing up on the rural west coast who visited an even smaller town. The middle schoolers were at my 2nd grade level.
Autisticawkwardpenguin
It’s not all mandated to perform at/on the same level across the country. Simply moving will make it near impossible to graduate high school
Autisticawkwardpenguin
It really comes down to the atrocity of schools being largely locally funded which has inequality baked in.
bmwcrafters
Yes, we know
arewenotkingsandqueenstogether
As a teacher, I agree. Shameful how we give our kids the leavings and discards
Insomnia297
which explains all the other disgraces
NM156
But if we educate them, how will we explain how free health care is bad? /s
JanieKSmith
America is a fucking disgrace, I say that as an American.
starlord56
Yes it is, so much so I decided to leave as an engineer and money wasn't in the top 20 as to way I choose to leave. Its a sinking ship
override367
I keep thinking of an onion article where Obama pledged to make America less of "a disgusting embarrassing shithole". I think about it a lot
starlord56
Except for he made it an even more sgusting embarrassing shithole. Just no one called him on it.He spead up the demise by about a decade
harrywindlehw101
Yep, but the fixing the education system is the first step in ensuring that next generation will do better than the last.
starlord56
No it won't.The structure of how the system is wrong to beging with,you can't have 39%of the population get college degrees.Fix the debt 1st
shmekie
Honestly we’re at the point where there are too many things to fix to call any one of them the first step to a better life
starlord56
No there is one good first step fi the debt and balance the budget. Because when that turns bad then nothing else will matter
shmekie
Nah the environment going to shit is objectively more important than numbers on a paper
Ploty
I read she is educated. Now prejudice and discrimmination toward women, colour stands in the way to employ her
LordElups
I've read this comment a dozen times. Still don't understand it but I love the flow.
Sloppydrunkcatlady
Yep. Looking to get out this May. Not fuckin worth it.
starlord56
I did and it was the best choice I ever made, I left this past may. All I can say is do not wait the dollar is slipping fast
Sloppydrunkcatlady
I'm finishing out the year then I'm out. Going to study instructional design between now and then
starlord56
Where you planning on heading to
Sloppydrunkcatlady
Hopefully find a job as an instructional designer
Mimsey
At all levels. At university I was regularly screwed by professors who earned $150k+/yr that would have TAs "teach" their courses for them.
betwitched
Most professors don’t get anywhere close to that, way under $100,000
Mimsey
I was in engineering. Engineering professors usually make $100k across the US after their first few years.
HelloDarknessMyOld
Time to join the police force. I know narcos that easily make over 100k a year with OT and way more when "forfeiture" is included.
HelloDarknessMyOld
https://transparentnevada.com/salaries/las-vegas-metro-police-department/
HelloDarknessMyOld
Fuck that, be a CO https://transparentnevada.com/salaries/2020/las-vegas-metro-police-department/paul-g-elizondo/ fucker get 203k it OT
Mimsey
Allegedly because your success at the PhD level is based on how much you rake in for the university through research grants.
belthasarthegreat
I mean, yes. Their pay is that high for running research groups not teaching. Teaching profs pull down 40-60k/yr depending on experience.
belthasarthegreat
And yes, it is a mistake to believe places with rich research in the department will intrinsically have better courses.
Mimsey
So teaching ability is irrelevent so long as you curve most of your classes to passing grades, and you're incentivized...
Mimsey
to dedicate much more time to writing grant proposals and doing research. So ALL levels of education in America are ruined by capitalism.
KafkasKarma
What about HS and elementary teachers?