I don’t even like having to push a button to one and close the trunk, or the button to move the passenger seat. Grab bar rail thing is so much faster, and you’re still reaching and touching things either way (being able to move the mirrors from inside with a button is nice though).
I say we send rich kids to war first because they can clearly afford any treatments they need post-service. Only then, would I think having this kind of useless luxury would be okay.
Anyone else annoyed at how far that closing button is on the console? Put it right by the driver, or center dash, whatever but NOT where you need to reach into a different timezone to f'ing use it
At some point in the '80s, the definition of luxury changed from craftsmanship and materials to having fancy tech. This was a good thing: Features like electronic stability control, modern passive safety systems, GPS, etc. were first available for top of the line models and then pretty quickly made their way down into affordable cars. The problem is that almost all good ideas have already been implemented, so now it's pointless nonsense like vents that are controlled with touchscreens only.
My step dad worked on cars for the wealthy. They pay like shit, are awful people, try to constantly cheat you, treat you poorly, always are double faced. Plus stuff like a RR is extremely poorly designed. So they are complete ass to fix. They often have needs like a crap unique oil that is a pain to source for some of its regular use items. This was years ago but I doubt Jack shit has changed. These are cars for morons who only care about the RR written on it.
My RX-8's door closes abruptly whenever I let go of it. At first it annoyed me, but now I just feel mystical whenever I sit down and the door completely latches less than a second later.
RR has “suicide doors” - park on the street, and if a car runs into the door on the hatchback, it gets ripped off; but on the RR? the door gets slammed into you if you’re exiting the car.
That's how I feel about a lot of "new tech" things these days. Like the marketing campaigns were just, "Are you lazy as fuck? Do you not want to lift a finger to do something simple? Have we got a product for you!"
All of those "too incompetent to operate a blanket" commercials are more for old people who have legitimate dexterity issues. Like I've got these electric salt and pepper grinders I was given for free to review... they're absolutely made for people who don't have the hand dexterity and grip strength to manually grind. Hence my "arthritic geezer" remark But this? I think if someone can't close a car door on their own they probably don't need to be operating a car.
I always hated those commercials because they highlighted how society sees the old needing help and how prideful we are as people when old. That you can't just advertise to people plainly needing it and saying what it is for up front. No, you need some young person to act the fool in the commercial so it all looks stupid and is "wink" not directed at you.
No need to worry; there are sand dunes that are moving faster than these. Even when these were new, they were dangerously slow and unsafe. I've read contemporary reviews: The handling is diabolical due to the poorly engineered rear swing axle, which can tuck under the car during sudden changes in direction. Steering and brakes were considered barely functioning even when these were new. They ooze charm and are very pretty, but I'd rather drive your average 1930s car than one of these.
BMW is known for putting as much overcomplicated and neccessary systems as possible in their vehicles with no thought put into redundancy creating hundreds of single point failure states. I mean they tried to sell subscriptions so you could use your cars heated seats, hardware that was already installed in the vehicle.
The people who own these cars do not fix them. They do not maintain them. They keep them for 2-3 years and when something breaks, they get a new one. Rolls, Bentley, Ferrari, all the same thing. They're not transportation, they're a status symbol. They exist to tell the world how rich you are. They serve no other purpose.
To play devil’s advocate: at least some people take Ferraris to track days, which is the correct use of such cars. Same thing with Porsches. Always a ton of those at the Nurburgring.
I mean sure, but how often do door locks malfunction like that? It's never happened on any of my normal cars' doors, and I expect people rich enough for that are even less likely to drive their car until the wheels fall off.
Bet you it isn't. That first isn't a turn of the millennium Mercedes (unreliable as hell) and Roll's reputation is built first and foremost on reliability. It'll cost you when you bend or service it but if you don't like that don't buy one.
Modern day Rolls are using the exact same tech as BMWs, often a few years behind even cheaper beamers. The problem is that they are filled to the roof with everything, that the same kind of cost cutting applies to them, because they are mostly using the same parts underneath the fancy paint and leather.
Yes, they're now owned and built by BMW (I believe coach work is still done in Britain, even if little of the mechanics is, but I'm no expert on that) - they still haven't lost their reputation for reliability. It's a valid point that too many toys introduces more chances for failure - but so what if some toys stop? It'll still do as much (probably more) than the beat up it was compared to at the start.
No, it's from watching YouTube videos from people that have owned many different luxury brands, and all of them have said they break quite often. Like Lotus, though that's not as luxurious of a brand.
Rolls, at least in the past, did have quality and service as well. There’s an anecdote about a man who was vacationing in the mountains and the axle broke. He called, Rolls sent a team and repaired it. When he returned home, he called his rep about the charge for an on site repair and received the reply. “Bill for what sir? Rolls Royce automobiles do not get broken axles.”
I have never known a person with a very expensive car that could not afford it. In fact, they usually seem to have several. And they have two or three homes to go with it.
Dont know why ur getting the hate. While ive known ppl that have bought cars they cant affird, ive never known one to buy a 300k+ car they couldnt afford. And the ppl that have had those 330k+ cars did indeed have more than one
They aren't buying it when it's 300k, they are buying it 15 to 30 years later for between 10 and 20k, when the paint still looks sort of okay if you squint a little at the McDonald's parking lot where they are taking dates 20 years their junior, hoping they don't notice that only three cylinders are firing every once in a while, that the air suspension has been swapped for coils and there are more warning lights on the interior at any given time than brain cells left between the buyer's ears.
Went to dinner with my uncle and he "accidentally" set off his rr alarm so he could stand up and say Sorry that's mine and turned it off. Yeah that's exactly who buys these cars
Am I supposed to know what a RR alarm sounds like? Does it just start screaming "I AM A ROLLs-ROYCE AND I AM BEING THREATENED"? Or does it just "meep, meep, meep, meep" like every other car? Because I am not going to give a shit either way, ya look like a jackass who leaned on their keys.
Lol you are right, the restaurant had large bay windows so you could see the lot. Whenever a car alarm goes off I always check to make sure I'm not the asshole
Usually if one goes off it's gonna keep going off for the bulk of my shift. They go off for a few minutes, then stop, then go off again a little while later, and just repeat for hours.
On one hand, what a poser. On the other hand, when I got my first cellphone (before anyone had cellphones) I told my wife to call me in about five minutes because I was going into the store to get groceries and I wanted people to see me pull out a cellphone. She did, I answered and I'm not sure if people were looking but the call immediately dropped because there were hardly any towers so I pretended to have a quick conversation and then hung up.
Imagine if you could go back in time and tell yourself you would be sharing this story with people on the Internet, using a cell phone advanced beyond past-self's comprehension! That would also feel pretty cool.
I bet no one cared and there was nothing to even forget about or remember. But I felt cool. Until I saw Hot Tub Time Machine and recognized myself in that guy on the ski slope. "At least no one will ever know," I thought to myself, unaware of the allure of upvotes.
I think I've witnessed this very thing happening many times in the 1990s. So many self-important people struggling to use their expensive toys. Thanks for beta-testing these things for the rest of us, before they became good.
I've only tried riding this edge a few times, when I could afford it or when it was very cheap to do so. Quite often, it wasn't worth it: I had one of the first modern smart watches that wasn't a tiny LCD added to a normal watch, for example, which was ridiculously awful in every way. The early Android smartphone it was paired with on the other hand (2010, when you were usually the only one on the train using one) was, despite its countless obvious shortcomings, immensely useful right away.
ThongsAreFootwear
Yes, but does it have cup holders?
AvsFreak
waznewz
It's just a BMW with a fancy badge... Seriously, under the skin its a BMW 7 series..
ViolentlyJaded
Comic sans? So, two bad decisions
Imjurbro
I don’t even like having to push a button to one and close the trunk, or the button to move the passenger seat. Grab bar rail thing is so much faster, and you’re still reaching and touching things either way (being able to move the mirrors from inside with a button is nice though).
NorwegianSheepknuller
Mine come with doors you can reach
RummageSaleBubbler
So like every taxi in Japan since the 80s?
guyanesebro420
Lmao my thought exactly
slimvictor
A few years ago, I bought a Rolls Carnadly. It rolls down one hill and canardly get up the next.
meganical
I say we send rich kids to war first because they can clearly afford any treatments they need post-service. Only then, would I think having this kind of useless luxury would be okay.
Rubyrose99
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idontlikebigreesescupguy
shitheadtookmyname
My vw does this
Clayman8
Anyone else annoyed at how far that closing button is on the console? Put it right by the driver, or center dash, whatever but NOT where you need to reach into a different timezone to f'ing use it
CambreathdTheSecound
my car does not need to do that, because it was not designed by an idiot. So the handle to close the door is where I can reach it...
DustinJL
The RR on the steering wheel stands for "Requires Repairs."
LaffertyDanie1
If you can afford the rolls you don't care
NotSomoneElse68
My brother said if the Jaguar that being able to afford the repairs is part off the flex.
sfrinlan
Yeah, it's not just affording the cost of buying it, but affording the cost of ownership and not being put out by either.
mohavewolfpup
DdCno1
At some point in the '80s, the definition of luxury changed from craftsmanship and materials to having fancy tech. This was a good thing: Features like electronic stability control, modern passive safety systems, GPS, etc. were first available for top of the line models and then pretty quickly made their way down into affordable cars. The problem is that almost all good ideas have already been implemented, so now it's pointless nonsense like vents that are controlled with touchscreens only.
SleepyHollowAppleTree
That's all well and good until the microchip that controls the door goes bad and the door just opens when you're driving.
Efreeti
Yay enshittification https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4Upf_B9RLQ
sfrinlan
"I'm saddened by the loss of my driver, and even more saddenend that I've had to sue his family in order to recover from the damages"
TheFastpaws
My step dad worked on cars for the wealthy. They pay like shit, are awful people, try to constantly cheat you, treat you poorly, always are double faced. Plus stuff like a RR is extremely poorly designed. So they are complete ass to fix. They often have needs like a crap unique oil that is a pain to source for some of its regular use items. This was years ago but I doubt Jack shit has changed. These are cars for morons who only care about the RR written on it.
Psychosdonotexplodewhensunlighthitthem
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butcherfan0301
That looks like a million points of failure and overly expensive repairs for mundane fixes.
Everyonespersonaltherapist
Who the heck wants backwards doors? There's no advantage to it and it looks so flawed they had to invent a feature to make it suck slightly less.
HollerinAtTheVoid
My Toyota minivan has automatic doors too. Check and mate.
sfrinlan
Same on the Honda
BlueSnowfox
My RX-8's door closes abruptly whenever I let go of it. At first it annoyed me, but now I just feel mystical whenever I sit down and the door completely latches less than a second later.
Wasnbo
Anything a Royce can do... https://youtu.be/PN5b-Ce4lIY
SilverFoxChaser
My rolls usually just left me with rugburns and dehydrated.
pseudoersatz
RR has “suicide doors” - park on the street, and if a car runs into the door on the hatchback, it gets ripped off; but on the RR? the door gets slammed into you if you’re exiting the car.
Stupid-stupid wealthy person design.
unannouncedguest
Anyone who owns a rolls is disgusting
TheMoonBnuuy
You haven't got a hand with which to close the door yourself? How much of an arthritic geezer are you that you need a car to close its own door?
nothingunused
That's how I feel about a lot of "new tech" things these days. Like the marketing campaigns were just, "Are you lazy as fuck? Do you not want to lift a finger to do something simple? Have we got a product for you!"
DdCno1
See: AI ads. The characters in these ads are barely able to manage breathing on their own.
TheMoonBnuuy
All of those "too incompetent to operate a blanket" commercials are more for old people who have legitimate dexterity issues. Like I've got these electric salt and pepper grinders I was given for free to review... they're absolutely made for people who don't have the hand dexterity and grip strength to manually grind. Hence my "arthritic geezer" remark
But this? I think if someone can't close a car door on their own they probably don't need to be operating a car.
TheFastpaws
I always hated those commercials because they highlighted how society sees the old needing help and how prideful we are as people when old. That you can't just advertise to people plainly needing it and saying what it is for up front. No, you need some young person to act the fool in the commercial so it all looks stupid and is "wink" not directed at you.
eromitlab
At least my white girl Jetta doesn't have suicide doors.
allenvasher3000
I would normally agree with you but I just became obsessed with the Subaru 360 Vans and I've been trying to find one that I can rebuild
StellarJay77
Just hope you dont ever need to get in or out in a hurry while the vehicle is moving.
DdCno1
No need to worry; there are sand dunes that are moving faster than these. Even when these were new, they were dangerously slow and unsafe. I've read contemporary reviews: The handling is diabolical due to the poorly engineered rear swing axle, which can tuck under the car during sudden changes in direction. Steering and brakes were considered barely functioning even when these were new. They ooze charm and are very pretty, but I'd rather drive your average 1930s car than one of these.
allenvasher3000
So putting a Hayabusa engine in it would be exciting
DdCno1
About as exciting as strapping a rocket booster to a Little Tikes car would be.
StellarJay77
Oh so generally better than your average BMW, got it.
alcamar
*Driver Ejection System
StellarJay77
No, this is more a, "if you need to get out in a hurry while the vehicle is moving you're gonna get flattened by your door" system.
Bytencoder
Just another thing to malfunction.
StellarJay77
BMW is known for putting as much overcomplicated and neccessary systems as possible in their vehicles with no thought put into redundancy creating hundreds of single point failure states. I mean they tried to sell subscriptions so you could use your cars heated seats, hardware that was already installed in the vehicle.
unluckyandbored
The people who own these cars do not fix them. They do not maintain them. They keep them for 2-3 years and when something breaks, they get a new one. Rolls, Bentley, Ferrari, all the same thing. They're not transportation, they're a status symbol. They exist to tell the world how rich you are. They serve no other purpose.
Yasashii93
To play devil’s advocate: at least some people take Ferraris to track days, which is the correct use of such cars. Same thing with Porsches. Always a ton of those at the Nurburgring.
But yeah, Bentleys and Rolls? Nah.
delecti
And not even something that improves your life. Closing a door when you get in is so easy.
Bytencoder
Also, how wise is it to design a car front door like an air-brake if the lock ever malfunctions at high speed?
delecti
I mean sure, but how often do door locks malfunction like that? It's never happened on any of my normal cars' doors, and I expect people rich enough for that are even less likely to drive their car until the wheels fall off.
Bytencoder
No idea, but the consequnces would be zero, as the air pressure would work to keep it closed for a normal door.
DustinJL
I guarantee you the second car is way more reliable.
wadatahmydamie
And it’s less likely to contain a child molester
pgdave
I'm pretty sure that RR is actually known for being quite dependable
wadatahmydamie
Yes, it’s quite dependable among people who have a live-in mechanic.
akafluffy
I feel it was more reliable... like 20 years ago, but nowadays it might take about the same dollar value of repairs to keep both on the road
Fentex
Bet you it isn't. That first isn't a turn of the millennium Mercedes (unreliable as hell) and Roll's reputation is built first and foremost on reliability. It'll cost you when you bend or service it but if you don't like that don't buy one.
DdCno1
Modern day Rolls are using the exact same tech as BMWs, often a few years behind even cheaper beamers. The problem is that they are filled to the roof with everything, that the same kind of cost cutting applies to them, because they are mostly using the same parts underneath the fancy paint and leather.
Fentex
Yes, they're now owned and built by BMW (I believe coach work is still done in Britain, even if little of the mechanics is, but I'm no expert on that) - they still haven't lost their reputation for reliability. It's a valid point that too many toys introduces more chances for failure - but so what if some toys stop? It'll still do as much (probably more) than the beat up it was compared to at the start.
DustinJL
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2fligh2high
Is this your personal experience?
DustinJL
No, it's from watching YouTube videos from people that have owned many different luxury brands, and all of them have said they break quite often. Like Lotus, though that's not as luxurious of a brand.
PostalHeathen
If you can afford a Rolls, you can afford to fix it. I'd still rather have my Toyota, though.
DustinJL
If I can afford a Rolls I still don't want whatever I bought to break all the time, whether I can afford to fix it or not.
It may be luxurious, but it has no quality to it.
Delathi
Rolls, at least in the past, did have quality and service as well. There’s an anecdote about a man who was vacationing in the mountains and the axle broke. He called, Rolls sent a team and repaired it. When he returned home, he called his rep about the charge for an on site repair and received the reply. “Bill for what sir? Rolls Royce automobiles do not get broken axles.”
PimpinKen
What good is a car that is broken all the time?
PostalHeathen
It looks good. People who buy cars like this rarely have only one car. When the Rolls is in the shop, you take the Bentley.
HeresYourSauce
Only if you can actually afford it. Which tbh a lot of people buy it for the clout, and absolutely can't afford it.
grandpasonlylivingheir
I have never known a person with a very expensive car that could not afford it. In fact, they usually seem to have several. And they have two or three homes to go with it.
MrNardtastic
Dont know why ur getting the hate. While ive known ppl that have bought cars they cant affird, ive never known one to buy a 300k+ car they couldnt afford. And the ppl that have had those 330k+ cars did indeed have more than one
DdCno1
They aren't buying it when it's 300k, they are buying it 15 to 30 years later for between 10 and 20k, when the paint still looks sort of okay if you squint a little at the McDonald's parking lot where they are taking dates 20 years their junior, hoping they don't notice that only three cylinders are firing every once in a while, that the air suspension has been swapped for coils and there are more warning lights on the interior at any given time than brain cells left between the buyer's ears.
tallyhoho
Went to dinner with my uncle and he "accidentally" set off his rr alarm so he could stand up and say Sorry that's mine and turned it off. Yeah that's exactly who buys these cars
TheAccursedHamster
Tell your uncle I hate him.
Covidien8768
wetsocksinflipflops
Jfc
Jelhammer
Am I supposed to know what a RR alarm sounds like? Does it just start screaming "I AM A ROLLs-ROYCE AND I AM BEING THREATENED"? Or does it just "meep, meep, meep, meep" like every other car? Because I am not going to give a shit either way, ya look like a jackass who leaned on their keys.
tallyhoho
Lol you are right, the restaurant had large bay windows so you could see the lot. Whenever a car alarm goes off I always check to make sure I'm not the asshole
datphone777365
Did ya call him a twig dicked cunt for it? Cus ya shoulda. Even if it meant he didnt pay for dinner.
tallyhoho
I don't want to think or say anything about my uncle's dick grossss
datphone777365
So ya didnt call em out. Oh well.
tallyhoho
What? No that's not what I said though
datphone777365
What did ya tell em then?
reichstein
Audible car alarms are a useless nuisance and should be banned.
Whenever one goes off the owner of the vehicle should receive a hefty fine.
AK90
I don't even remember the last time I heard a car alarm.
reichstein
I hear them pretty often at work.
Usually if one goes off it's gonna keep going off for the bulk of my shift. They go off for a few minutes, then stop, then go off again a little while later, and just repeat for hours.
It's super fucking annoying.
IceWeaselX
Gotta love it when one is so loud that it sets off other car alarms in proximity.
ToenailClippingsJar
Yeah less fum at 3AM…
Happens too often here. By often I mean once a year roughly.
Snooj
On one hand, what a poser. On the other hand, when I got my first cellphone (before anyone had cellphones) I told my wife to call me in about five minutes because I was going into the store to get groceries and I wanted people to see me pull out a cellphone. She did, I answered and I'm not sure if people were looking but the call immediately dropped because there were hardly any towers so I pretended to have a quick conversation and then hung up.
LazerSpacePirate
Same shit w selfie sticks, now meta glasses. Silly consumerism posturing
MissChickle
Imagine if you could go back in time and tell yourself you would be sharing this story with people on the Internet, using a cell phone advanced beyond past-self's comprehension! That would also feel pretty cool.
Moriarte
Can ya hear me now?
ChiLLeCheeze
I bet they whisper about that loser in the store who pretended to talk on the cell phone.
Snooj
I bet no one cared and there was nothing to even forget about or remember. But I felt cool. Until I saw Hot Tub Time Machine and recognized myself in that guy on the ski slope. "At least no one will ever know," I thought to myself, unaware of the allure of upvotes.
ChiLLeCheeze
If you were Bill Murray they might remember. Alas... unless...?
Snooj
Far from it. Not even remotely that handsome.
JurgenWindcallerz
“Who is that freak talking to… what a freak”
plastikb0y
Back in my day they called them them Yuppies! (in the 80's when I was single digit human).
DdCno1
I think I've witnessed this very thing happening many times in the 1990s. So many self-important people struggling to use their expensive toys. Thanks for beta-testing these things for the rest of us, before they became good.
Snooj
I played it off cool so you wouldn't have known my struggle but you're welcome although I stopped riding the bleeding edge of technology a while ago.
DdCno1
I've only tried riding this edge a few times, when I could afford it or when it was very cheap to do so. Quite often, it wasn't worth it: I had one of the first modern smart watches that wasn't a tiny LCD added to a normal watch, for example, which was ridiculously awful in every way. The early Android smartphone it was paired with on the other hand (2010, when you were usually the only one on the train using one) was, despite its countless obvious shortcomings, immensely useful right away.