Dec 28, 2019 3:38 PM
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expfarrer
that will be 500 bucks for you reading it pal
Josesharlo
I used to negotiate cell tower leases with attorneys. These redlines are SPOT. ON.
DaisyfromDownunder
That'll be $440 bucks, invoice enclosed.
Gilgamech
Butitisnotthisday
Why hello there
TheDreadLordOfDownvotes
You can just put “Including” without the rest. In legal writing, using “includ-“ does not mean what follows is an exhaustive list....cont.
...using “but not limited to” is redundant.
brandsilven
12 months from the date? That's amazing, when "New year" is just basically a single day holiday. What a bonus!
PandaPie
"New Year" is one day (Jan 1). When you say "new year," you mean the whole upcoming year. I always thought it miserly when somebody only 1/2
wished me a happy New Year. 2/2
HEWHOTYPESINALLCAPS
FAKE. NEVER SEEN A LAWYER USE AND/OR
Eiladar
It's more used in business contracts than criminal cases. Check out some EULAs.
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ROBOTvsMAN
@UP
30Jonseredi
Username checks out
ringneckphotography4
The card presumably would have been sent before the 25th December therefore, the new year effective date seems invalid. Bad lawyering..
IlCastradore
It was corrected to 12 months from the date hereof - good lawyering
date hereof and “date of this Agreement” means the date first written above.
Agreement isn’t defined ; hereof will be date of the letter
Exactly.. that was my defence.. case dismissed..
scuba7jb
I've been told lawyers are likely to be the first ones replaced by computer A.I......
arek314
Legal support staff, all the people that research cases, do prep work, etc.
purdhapley
Ya because robot lawyers sound better than human ones?
scroobiusgav
I heard it was truckers.
SlightlyDodgy
They already have in some cases. appealnow.com (not real A.I. but a dynamic letter generator but it's close enough as a starting point).
Orionsdick
Unlikely
srlfish
alitquar
Once true AI is achieved it’ll happen so fast “first” will have little relevance.
vipe650r
That would depend so wildly on who wrote the programming, their biases and interpretations, which are both individual and subjective.
Berethian
Judges interpret the law, lawyers argue it.
Good correction. A better way to put it might be lawyers attempt to pitch their interpretation.
gaaaaalavant
Paralegals, yes. Lawyers - probably not. Too much critical thinking required.
ShadeFawks
And besides the non-AI lawyer, most likely being of fae decent, could cause the AI to glitch out
iusedtodream
You mean lying. Too much lying required.
SephiRothIRA
Truth bending**
Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyznowyouknowyourabcscomealongandsing
Big difference between bending the rules and breaking the rules
That bald girl in The Matrix bent the spoon to the max. Same with the law, man. There is no law!
Law is 100% charisma and precedent. Good luck getting an AI with a charisma score higher than 2.
bacter
Totally agree. Sure, it requires AT A BASELINE understanding of the letter of the law, but past that it's very much a social exercise!
LeSethX
I understand the majority of workers in a law firm are researching documentation for a case, not the lawyers themselves.
Ironblitz
You look nice. Have you (if FEMALE){ "Lost weight?" else "Gained height?"};
TheunseenUniversitystudnet8
Well they Samuel L. Jackson's voice recorder for Alexa also Morgan Freeman's so....you never know.
Fennek04
Precedence is important in countries with common law not so much in countries using Civil law
ZazzRazzamatazz
Present company excepted.
Finduses
Depends on what area of law, some parts are quite reliant on professional assessment. Like social law.
confirmsthings
Bruh, you saying Hatsune Miku ain't charsmatic af?
springledingle
Baromian
notabotguyspleaseacceptmeeeee
Almost all legal work is paperwork. Almost no legal work is in a court room and that is mostly motion practice.
DefinitelyNotMadeOfBees
Litigation is charisma. Non-litigators are some of the least charismatic ppl on the planet.
What other parts of law are there - research and discovery?
ninjaguineapig
Contracts
Basically, it's transactional practice vs litigation. Litigation happens in a court. Transactional law is more about corporate law, eg >>
>> preparing legal documents, reviewing contracts, advising on legal matters, etc. Many lawyers will never enter a courtroom.
I lack charisma.
expfarrer
that will be 500 bucks for you reading it pal
Josesharlo
I used to negotiate cell tower leases with attorneys. These redlines are SPOT. ON.
DaisyfromDownunder
That'll be $440 bucks, invoice enclosed.
Gilgamech
Butitisnotthisday
Why hello there
TheDreadLordOfDownvotes
You can just put “Including” without the rest. In legal writing, using “includ-“ does not mean what follows is an exhaustive list....cont.
TheDreadLordOfDownvotes
...using “but not limited to” is redundant.
brandsilven
12 months from the date? That's amazing, when "New year" is just basically a single day holiday. What a bonus!
PandaPie
"New Year" is one day (Jan 1). When you say "new year," you mean the whole upcoming year. I always thought it miserly when somebody only 1/2
PandaPie
wished me a happy New Year. 2/2
HEWHOTYPESINALLCAPS
FAKE. NEVER SEEN A LAWYER USE AND/OR
Eiladar
It's more used in business contracts than criminal cases. Check out some EULAs.
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ROBOTvsMAN
@UP
30Jonseredi
Username checks out
ringneckphotography4
The card presumably would have been sent before the 25th December therefore, the new year effective date seems invalid. Bad lawyering..
IlCastradore
It was corrected to 12 months from the date hereof - good lawyering
ringneckphotography4
date hereof and “date of this Agreement” means the date first written above.
IlCastradore
Agreement isn’t defined ; hereof will be date of the letter
ringneckphotography4
Exactly.. that was my defence.. case dismissed..
scuba7jb
I've been told lawyers are likely to be the first ones replaced by computer A.I......
arek314
Legal support staff, all the people that research cases, do prep work, etc.
purdhapley
Ya because robot lawyers sound better than human ones?
scroobiusgav
I heard it was truckers.
SlightlyDodgy
They already have in some cases. appealnow.com (not real A.I. but a dynamic letter generator but it's close enough as a starting point).
Orionsdick
Unlikely
srlfish
alitquar
Once true AI is achieved it’ll happen so fast “first” will have little relevance.
vipe650r
That would depend so wildly on who wrote the programming, their biases and interpretations, which are both individual and subjective.
Berethian
Judges interpret the law, lawyers argue it.
vipe650r
Good correction. A better way to put it might be lawyers attempt to pitch their interpretation.
gaaaaalavant
Paralegals, yes. Lawyers - probably not. Too much critical thinking required.
ShadeFawks
And besides the non-AI lawyer, most likely being of fae decent, could cause the AI to glitch out
iusedtodream
You mean lying. Too much lying required.
SephiRothIRA
Truth bending**
Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyznowyouknowyourabcscomealongandsing
Big difference between bending the rules and breaking the rules
SephiRothIRA
That bald girl in The Matrix bent the spoon to the max. Same with the law, man. There is no law!
Gilgamech
Law is 100% charisma and precedent. Good luck getting an AI with a charisma score higher than 2.
bacter
Totally agree. Sure, it requires AT A BASELINE understanding of the letter of the law, but past that it's very much a social exercise!
LeSethX
I understand the majority of workers in a law firm are researching documentation for a case, not the lawyers themselves.
Ironblitz
You look nice. Have you (if FEMALE){ "Lost weight?" else "Gained height?"};
TheunseenUniversitystudnet8
Well they Samuel L. Jackson's voice recorder for Alexa also Morgan Freeman's so....you never know.
Fennek04
Precedence is important in countries with common law not so much in countries using Civil law
ZazzRazzamatazz
Gilgamech
Present company excepted.
Finduses
Depends on what area of law, some parts are quite reliant on professional assessment. Like social law.
confirmsthings
Bruh, you saying Hatsune Miku ain't charsmatic af?
springledingle
Gilgamech
Present company excepted.
Baromian
Gilgamech
Present company excepted.
notabotguyspleaseacceptmeeeee
Almost all legal work is paperwork. Almost no legal work is in a court room and that is mostly motion practice.
DefinitelyNotMadeOfBees
Litigation is charisma. Non-litigators are some of the least charismatic ppl on the planet.
Gilgamech
What other parts of law are there - research and discovery?
ninjaguineapig
Contracts
DefinitelyNotMadeOfBees
Basically, it's transactional practice vs litigation. Litigation happens in a court. Transactional law is more about corporate law, eg >>
DefinitelyNotMadeOfBees
>> preparing legal documents, reviewing contracts, advising on legal matters, etc. Many lawyers will never enter a courtroom.
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Gilgamech
I lack charisma.