Oct 9, 2017 10:49 AM
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perryTheCrackhead
man, i have a orgasm
ThrowMamaFromTheTrain
Those aren't cables.
RustBunny
Instead of Velcro straps, reusable zip ties or ratchet clamps, what about twistlocks? https://www.fws.co/images/product/medium/twistlock.jpg
horseman05
That is true Cable Porn!
KCTiger79
Looks like a Schweitzer relay.
gothamheresy
Motor operators and switchgear with an SEL management system. Have an updoot.
DoTheScap
I noticed that SEL too. I've programmed a few of those.
SleeperXib
It's so beautiful I can hardly breathe.
cleverusername182
I never understood the fetish behind 'good cable management.' They're cables. Get over yourselves.
bz2005
Cable ties are for chumps, wax string or nothing.
MasterPrime
This was not done by human hands.
BreakTheCircle
Electrician my friend, paid by the hour they will take as long as they darn well please
ucfh
Anyone got some good rainbow cable management? No one ever uses enough colors.
Shigbeard
Protip: Velcro > Cable Ties.
AdmiralJohn
Meanwhile, in one of the network closets where I work:
dogenuggets
https://imgur.com/R3qyyPN
Just a tip, don't google animated-only images with the phrase "Uh oh spaghettios"
yourabigguy
Flagged for porn.
LapisSea
To late my pc already jerked off to this one.
deityofdeity
Uuuungggggggooooooo
Sm9yCg
Binders. Who ever used binders deserves having his fingers removed by a blunt object.
jacobothebobo1337
Why didnt they use cable canals instead of 9999 sip ties?
ProbablyDrunkAgain
Standard practice in the industry.
adjerry91
Ooo SELinc.com relays! I design wiring for these guys! I use them for controlling the power grid equipment.
surefang
A thing of beauty, as long as none of those cables ever have to move again.
TesticlesWithTentacles
I prefer cable management using Velcro,
AnthonyBlumpkins
OMG thank you
STINKPICKEL
Same with IBM, we had rolls of Velcro shipped with every new system.
klavenism
Substation panel. Nice.
khora
These are wires, not cables.
Absolarix
You're a cable.
I'm a terminal screw.
Sorry to say this, but... It's terminal...
I'm screwed.
pronoun
Whoever did that gets paid by the hour.
Drewcas
Or takes pride in their work.
I was about to say.
Nofootlongs
Where does one begin to learn how to manage cables like this... asking for a friend.
MadsBen
Practice. And throw away the zip ties.
MidgetPornCollector
Logical thinking and practice. First few attempts will look "meh" but it gets better. You can also guide stuff a bit with cardboard first :)
pintDMG
One of the few times "use velcro lol!" is utter idiocy. If you get an actual wire failure in this, you have much bigger problems than that.
DragoWhooves
1) wires can fail or a cable run might have been faulty when installed but doesn't get used and/or noticed until much later (1/?)
2) there is free ports, so running a new cable will require removing and replacing a bunch of those ties, which can damage the cables (2/?)
in conclusion: if they had used velcro ties they can add, remove or replace a cable with ease and not have to snip a bunch of them (3/4)
source: I have worked in IT and telecoms, one of the things I did was a mass re-patch, we used only velcro and no cable ties (4/5)
so that we could go back and add, remove or replace cables as required, without having to cut and dispose of cable ties (5/6)
TimeFoDat
Cables should come with a built-in LED mechanism so you can press a tool to the end and have the cable light up/blink so it's easy to follow
anthaneezy
Fluke probably makes one for wires. They exist for Ethernet.
So if/when the LED signal wire fails you replace the entire thing, while the cable might be good? It’s better to test the wire itself.
It could be inert so it requires input electricity from the tool but would be unlikely to fail itself. Then tangles are less dramatic.
KoRplussomeletters
Tone kit with an adapter for 8P8C, then you can find out which one buzzes.
Might be hard still, especially in a cooled room with the A/C blaring and still a lot of cables in close proximity.
Nah, the thing making the noise is in your hand and you touch it to the cables. Could easily imagine one with a headphone port.
Yeah but you have to touch the cables. I can look at 500 cables and see one blinking in 3 seconds—It takes a bit longer to touch 500 cables.
Thesoulstealingginger
threepwood007
Every time a zip tie masquerades as good cable management, god kills a telecom guy
HumansAreStupid
AT&T uses waxed cord and you have to lace it together.
Yeah. Loosen the ties!
zeromehsgiven
Good thing this electrical panel has nothing to do with Telecom.
CaptainSeaManToYou
Ehhh... more like a controls panel. I'd say it's more related to telecom.
Ah jeez. This has not gone well for me. My mistake!
It is a substation control panel. Used to design them.
Control panels are electrical and when it breaks down it won’t be the phone company called out...
techdawg2013
It's going to be an electrician qualified to work on this equipment.
Squelchtone
Trust me, no electrician is gonna be troubleshooting that PLC or any other SCADA system. But neither is a telecom or network guy.
OneDudeFromNorway
But an automation technician would
I do...
idonthaveauser
Cable #42 is faulty. Please replace it. "*sigh*, I'll need 1 new cable and 684 new cable ties"
malsure
Glad you chose #42
iLikeTrails
It's never a layer 1 issue.
ItsSirUnimpressive
90% of the time it's a layer 1 issue, but 99% of that is just some twat unplugged a cable somewhere.
Mcdeathcore
Somone dose not know how to undo a cable tie
Gover57
They likely test the bunch of connections for connectivity before cable tying them together
Vilespring
As someone who has messed around with both rats nests and nice management with zipties, I'd rather replace zipties. Second per tie really.
parwashere
How often do your cables die?
Never had one fail.
PatrikLilja
If they are fixed, never.
divingin
About time someone said it.
dghammer
Plus 300 stinky backs.
ItWasntSupposedToBeThisWay
This panel shipped from the factory like that, fully tested. You don't mess with it.
WhatzitTooya
Those cables dont move, why should they become faulty?
Rats
Who knows where they are heading and what construction work might happen to them. I'm not saying the cause is inside the cabinet.
If they went through with the level of detail, all cables who leave the cabinet are put on the terminals on the sides.
hks003
I use velcro wrap for this reason.
Paramike
https://media.giphy.com/media/Wq7jKl086YUO4/giphy.gif
sciencebasedlifeform
Plus velcro makes that neat sound
Zip ties are used because these are "permanent" installations, not swapped all the time like servers in a datacenter.
xrosstalk
Yes always velcro tape...always
Shots87
Yea, that seems way more reasonable
DJArcticwolfhowls
I'm not a networking guy (audio engineer) panduit is by far my favorite thing to use, far less velcro/wire ties
Dirtybirdsalltheway
I use panduits for everything, hell I even supported my tomato plants to my fence with them.
ARealHumanandNotaChatBot
Here ya go....
Minkaf
C0mtraya
v
expertLevelProcrastinator
Horny
Leverbee
That looks exactly like the one I've seen at my university.
Anonaru
NFW is right, hot damn
ImgurisluvImgurislife
NSFW that shit! Oh, wait. That's like the opposite of NSFW
hiddenwolf55
SSFW? Super Safe For Work?
stoney2005
and because of that comment it's not tagged as a NSFW link. lol
CthulhuApproved
Space2place
Could be worse
Perfectlyloud
Gross
GrantLeavitt
Looks like a spider web of blackness.
masterswasntworthit
Hey I watch stranger things too!
LamePotato
Realistic
coastalb55
How is it that my computer here at work has like less than 10 cables and still ends up looking like this?
samsonguy920
The same reason headphones get tangled up in your pocket no matter how careful you are.
turbotricycle
In my experience wire never fails unless it's moving all the time. Connections and spices fail and people want to blame the wire.
Changing the wire is the last thing to try if it isn't moving.
This guy gets it.
orangeyougladitsnotbanana
It's the first thing your satellite company will tell you to do before they will actually help you.
Qumefox
That's because their phone support is clueless and just has a list to follow, and half the time get reprimanded if they have to escalate.
Not if you are a technician doing mantenance, then you won't call that support line.
In the mean time....
lilledda
Hey look it's EAs servers
FuzzyNutSak
Horrifying
Ganonderf
Wow, just WOW. Its incredible that someone let it get that bad.
Not only will you be unable to find cable 42, you'll be unable to find the patch panel.
RemainsspacebarUnknown
if you know the number of the cable, youll know where it connects. isnt hard when you got 1 of the ends. looks horrible though.
dukenukemforpresident
Fucking lucky you find a rack.
Boss: Can you clean up the data closet? Me:
siedler084
At that point the best course of action is to burn it to the ground and build up from a blank slate
FloriaFlower
it's a good analogy for good vs bad code.
It would more be spaghetti code vs massive code duplication.
shinydev
In both cases the trick is getting the maintainers to not ruin it with quick fixes.
You could argue that it's not optimal to have wires run alongside each other for long stretches. Rounded IDE cables are horrible/look nice.
opiboble
With that size of wire, it is not a faulty wire, it will be a bad connection on the termination point, bust out a screw driver.
This. This is industrial equipment and those look to be relatively beefy gauge wire, not network cables.
Then your wire will be too short.
Not enough to make a difference. More than likely it will just be a loose connection in this case.
You don't need to trim the cable, just tighten the compression screw.
No, he means the wire will magically get shorter while you are replacing the port. I've had that happen reconnecting my PC.
This is an industrial control application, not network. Other than possible loose connections, the only way a wire will have issue is if
someone drives a forklift into the cabinet.
That or if one of those control boxes dies.
perryTheCrackhead
man, i have a orgasm
ThrowMamaFromTheTrain
Those aren't cables.
RustBunny
Instead of Velcro straps, reusable zip ties or ratchet clamps, what about twistlocks? https://www.fws.co/images/product/medium/twistlock.jpg
horseman05
That is true Cable Porn!
KCTiger79
Looks like a Schweitzer relay.
gothamheresy
Motor operators and switchgear with an SEL management system. Have an updoot.
DoTheScap
I noticed that SEL too. I've programmed a few of those.
SleeperXib
It's so beautiful I can hardly breathe.
cleverusername182
I never understood the fetish behind 'good cable management.' They're cables. Get over yourselves.
bz2005
Cable ties are for chumps, wax string or nothing.
MasterPrime
This was not done by human hands.
BreakTheCircle
Electrician my friend, paid by the hour they will take as long as they darn well please
ucfh
Anyone got some good rainbow cable management? No one ever uses enough colors.
Shigbeard
Protip: Velcro > Cable Ties.
AdmiralJohn
Meanwhile, in one of the network closets where I work:
dogenuggets
https://imgur.com/R3qyyPN
dogenuggets
Just a tip, don't google animated-only images with the phrase "Uh oh spaghettios"
yourabigguy
Flagged for porn.
LapisSea
To late my pc already jerked off to this one.
deityofdeity
Uuuungggggggooooooo
Sm9yCg
Binders. Who ever used binders deserves having his fingers removed by a blunt object.
jacobothebobo1337
Why didnt they use cable canals instead of 9999 sip ties?
ProbablyDrunkAgain
Standard practice in the industry.
adjerry91
Ooo SELinc.com relays! I design wiring for these guys! I use them for controlling the power grid equipment.
surefang
A thing of beauty, as long as none of those cables ever have to move again.
TesticlesWithTentacles
I prefer cable management using Velcro,
AnthonyBlumpkins
OMG thank you
STINKPICKEL
Same with IBM, we had rolls of Velcro shipped with every new system.
klavenism
Substation panel. Nice.
khora
These are wires, not cables.
Absolarix
You're a cable.
khora
I'm a terminal screw.
Absolarix
Sorry to say this, but... It's terminal...
khora
I'm screwed.
pronoun
Whoever did that gets paid by the hour.
Drewcas
Or takes pride in their work.
BreakTheCircle
Absolarix
I was about to say.
Nofootlongs
Where does one begin to learn how to manage cables like this... asking for a friend.
MadsBen
Practice. And throw away the zip ties.
MidgetPornCollector
Logical thinking and practice. First few attempts will look "meh" but it gets better. You can also guide stuff a bit with cardboard first :)
pintDMG
One of the few times "use velcro lol!" is utter idiocy. If you get an actual wire failure in this, you have much bigger problems than that.
DragoWhooves
1) wires can fail or a cable run might have been faulty when installed but doesn't get used and/or noticed until much later (1/?)
DragoWhooves
2) there is free ports, so running a new cable will require removing and replacing a bunch of those ties, which can damage the cables (2/?)
DragoWhooves
in conclusion: if they had used velcro ties they can add, remove or replace a cable with ease and not have to snip a bunch of them (3/4)
DragoWhooves
source: I have worked in IT and telecoms, one of the things I did was a mass re-patch, we used only velcro and no cable ties (4/5)
DragoWhooves
so that we could go back and add, remove or replace cables as required, without having to cut and dispose of cable ties (5/6)
TimeFoDat
Cables should come with a built-in LED mechanism so you can press a tool to the end and have the cable light up/blink so it's easy to follow
anthaneezy
Fluke probably makes one for wires. They exist for Ethernet.
anthaneezy
So if/when the LED signal wire fails you replace the entire thing, while the cable might be good? It’s better to test the wire itself.
TimeFoDat
It could be inert so it requires input electricity from the tool but would be unlikely to fail itself. Then tangles are less dramatic.
KoRplussomeletters
Tone kit with an adapter for 8P8C, then you can find out which one buzzes.
TimeFoDat
Might be hard still, especially in a cooled room with the A/C blaring and still a lot of cables in close proximity.
KoRplussomeletters
Nah, the thing making the noise is in your hand and you touch it to the cables. Could easily imagine one with a headphone port.
TimeFoDat
Yeah but you have to touch the cables. I can look at 500 cables and see one blinking in 3 seconds—It takes a bit longer to touch 500 cables.
Thesoulstealingginger
threepwood007
Every time a zip tie masquerades as good cable management, god kills a telecom guy
HumansAreStupid
AT&T uses waxed cord and you have to lace it together.
MadsBen
Yeah. Loosen the ties!
zeromehsgiven
Good thing this electrical panel has nothing to do with Telecom.
CaptainSeaManToYou
Ehhh... more like a controls panel. I'd say it's more related to telecom.
CaptainSeaManToYou
Ah jeez. This has not gone well for me. My mistake!
ProbablyDrunkAgain
It is a substation control panel. Used to design them.
zeromehsgiven
Control panels are electrical and when it breaks down it won’t be the phone company called out...
techdawg2013
It's going to be an electrician qualified to work on this equipment.
Squelchtone
Trust me, no electrician is gonna be troubleshooting that PLC or any other SCADA system. But neither is a telecom or network guy.
OneDudeFromNorway
But an automation technician would
zeromehsgiven
I do...
idonthaveauser
Cable #42 is faulty. Please replace it. "*sigh*, I'll need 1 new cable and 684 new cable ties"
malsure
Glad you chose #42
iLikeTrails
It's never a layer 1 issue.
ItsSirUnimpressive
90% of the time it's a layer 1 issue, but 99% of that is just some twat unplugged a cable somewhere.
Mcdeathcore
Somone dose not know how to undo a cable tie
Gover57
They likely test the bunch of connections for connectivity before cable tying them together
Vilespring
As someone who has messed around with both rats nests and nice management with zipties, I'd rather replace zipties. Second per tie really.
parwashere
How often do your cables die?
ProbablyDrunkAgain
Never had one fail.
PatrikLilja
If they are fixed, never.
divingin
About time someone said it.
dghammer
Plus 300 stinky backs.
ItWasntSupposedToBeThisWay
This panel shipped from the factory like that, fully tested. You don't mess with it.
WhatzitTooya
Those cables dont move, why should they become faulty?
TesticlesWithTentacles
Rats
idonthaveauser
Who knows where they are heading and what construction work might happen to them. I'm not saying the cause is inside the cabinet.
WhatzitTooya
If they went through with the level of detail, all cables who leave the cabinet are put on the terminals on the sides.
hks003
I use velcro wrap for this reason.
Paramike
https://media.giphy.com/media/Wq7jKl086YUO4/giphy.gif
sciencebasedlifeform
Plus velcro makes that neat sound
ProbablyDrunkAgain
Zip ties are used because these are "permanent" installations, not swapped all the time like servers in a datacenter.
xrosstalk
Yes always velcro tape...always
Shots87
Yea, that seems way more reasonable
DJArcticwolfhowls
I'm not a networking guy (audio engineer) panduit is by far my favorite thing to use, far less velcro/wire ties
Dirtybirdsalltheway
I use panduits for everything, hell I even supported my tomato plants to my fence with them.
ARealHumanandNotaChatBot
Here ya go....
Minkaf
C0mtraya
expertLevelProcrastinator
Horny
Leverbee
That looks exactly like the one I've seen at my university.
Anonaru
NFW is right, hot damn
ImgurisluvImgurislife
NSFW that shit! Oh, wait. That's like the opposite of NSFW
hiddenwolf55
SSFW? Super Safe For Work?
stoney2005
and because of that comment it's not tagged as a NSFW link. lol
CthulhuApproved
Space2place
Could be worse
Perfectlyloud
Gross
GrantLeavitt
Looks like a spider web of blackness.
masterswasntworthit
Hey I watch stranger things too!
LamePotato
Realistic
coastalb55
How is it that my computer here at work has like less than 10 cables and still ends up looking like this?
samsonguy920
The same reason headphones get tangled up in your pocket no matter how careful you are.
turbotricycle
In my experience wire never fails unless it's moving all the time. Connections and spices fail and people want to blame the wire.
PatrikLilja
Changing the wire is the last thing to try if it isn't moving.
turbotricycle
This guy gets it.
orangeyougladitsnotbanana
It's the first thing your satellite company will tell you to do before they will actually help you.
Qumefox
That's because their phone support is clueless and just has a list to follow, and half the time get reprimanded if they have to escalate.
PatrikLilja
Not if you are a technician doing mantenance, then you won't call that support line.
ARealHumanandNotaChatBot
In the mean time....
lilledda
Hey look it's EAs servers
FuzzyNutSak
Horrifying
Ganonderf
idonthaveauser
Not only will you be unable to find cable 42, you'll be unable to find the patch panel.
RemainsspacebarUnknown
if you know the number of the cable, youll know where it connects. isnt hard when you got 1 of the ends. looks horrible though.
dukenukemforpresident
Fucking lucky you find a rack.
ARealHumanandNotaChatBot
siedler084
At that point the best course of action is to burn it to the ground and build up from a blank slate
FloriaFlower
it's a good analogy for good vs bad code.
idonthaveauser
It would more be spaghetti code vs massive code duplication.
shinydev
In both cases the trick is getting the maintainers to not ruin it with quick fixes.
idonthaveauser
You could argue that it's not optimal to have wires run alongside each other for long stretches. Rounded IDE cables are horrible/look nice.
opiboble
With that size of wire, it is not a faulty wire, it will be a bad connection on the termination point, bust out a screw driver.
Qumefox
This. This is industrial equipment and those look to be relatively beefy gauge wire, not network cables.
turbotricycle
Then your wire will be too short.
zeromehsgiven
Not enough to make a difference. More than likely it will just be a loose connection in this case.
opiboble
You don't need to trim the cable, just tighten the compression screw.
samsonguy920
No, he means the wire will magically get shorter while you are replacing the port. I've had that happen reconnecting my PC.
Qumefox
This is an industrial control application, not network. Other than possible loose connections, the only way a wire will have issue is if
Qumefox
someone drives a forklift into the cabinet.
opiboble
That or if one of those control boxes dies.