The Irony

Feb 15, 2026 9:06 PM

Currently driving my first vehicle that I can just ask Siri to change redo stations or switch to music steaming using voice commands. But I can’t use voice commands to turn on the ac or turn on rear defrost. Literally the technology is right there to have it be totally hands free and do that stuff but no I need to take my eye off the road to navigate to simple commands that before were just a button on the dash. What a failure.

1 month ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

And yet they can still pull you over and ticket you doing that if they are looking for a reason. “Distracted driving” or “driving without due care”. It’s all bullshit.

1 month ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

I hate degree-based AC. If it's set colder than it currently is you get arctic wind unt the whe cabin is down to temp. If it's higher the you get air fried until the sensor warms up.

1 month ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Why did we need fancy screens? I grew up watching adults swerve the vehicle I was a passenger in back onto the road or out of the way of the oncoming cars because they had been manually dialing in AM or FM stations or were reaching back behind them to violently "parent" some misbehaving kid or numerous other dangerous things

1 month ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

My Ioniq 5 has a nice balance of switches and touch screens. The only think I use regularly that's behind more than one screen is the seat warmers which I only need a few months a year.

1 month ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

fun fact: this exact issue is hwy some brands are going back to knobs and dials.

1 month ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Get all touchscreens OUT of vehicles. They make no sense, on any level.

1 month ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 2

Then go to your local politicians and push them for the change.
That's how you get whole markets to act on this stuff.
If they ban their use legally, they will stop adding them.
It's not even a hard argument to make, #1 as this is basically all you need to argue.

1 month ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

No, you're not. It's illegal to use it while you drive. At least here in Norway.

1 month ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Not in my daily.

1 month ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Back a decade ago, before knowing how awful Musk truly was, I was debating between the then new for 2016 Prius, and the Tesla Model 3.

Tesla's completely unsurprising delays helped, of course, but I did a cost benefit analysis of fueling be electric use, and was still on the fence.

Once I heard about the design choice for the Model 3 of putting most controls in the touch screen, I did a hard NOPE. That just a safety disaster. Other makes/models doing this later are equally horrifying.
1/2

1 month ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

That the Prius gets reasonably better fuel economy than my attempt at calculating a real-world estimate was an added bonus. 2/2

1 month ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Amazon music has a lock window when driving. But if my playlist runs out, they add their own music. AI rap sucks in 5 o'clock traffic.

1 month ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Maybe automakers are paying better bribes to the politicians than phone manufacturers?

1 month ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Its at the point now that if I don't already have what I'm going to be listening to fully queued up, I just turn the radio off. Because its just too complicated to navigate thru a half dozen menus, none of which make logical sense, on a screen that barely registers my touch, while in traffic. Maybe that's the innovation? Tech so "advanced" that you just don't use it.

1 month ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

My car pairs to my phone, my phone starts automatically playing where it left off in PlexAmp (with my 3000 MP3s and FLACs)

1 month ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from nothing."

1 month ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

How the hell was that bullshit ever legal, let alone turning into standard?!?

1 month ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

These stupid touchscreens in cars just seem so cheap and crappy, too. It's blatantly about cutting corners because they assume everyone will just accept a shitty product. Instantly makes it feel more like a low-end vehicle.

1 month ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I can’t stand this touchscreen crap when it’s minus 10F and I’m wearing thick gloves and just want to turn the heat up.

1 month ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That's why I love my Suzuki, the touchscreen is for audio only (and the reverse camera)

1 month ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

This was a deciding factor for me getting a Mazda. Screen out of hand's reach with physical controls for AC/Heater

1 month ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 1

too bad, moving to touchscreen now

1 month ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I saw and was disappointed

1 month ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

They have a nice balance between "Media" and car functional control i.e. buttons

1 month ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Putting all controls on a touchscreen was only ever about cost-reductions, and never about benefit to the actual customer.

1 month ago | Likes 194 Dislikes 3

And it being allowed is nothing more than tech companies paying for a loophole

1 month ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It wasn't even really about cost reduction, it was pure marketing.
Tesla did it, and it looked futuristic the first time it was done.
So every other brand jumped on the bandwagon to do it so they looked modern.
As the screens end up costing more than the physical controls do, because basic dials and buttons are cheaper than complex touch screens. And they already had the production lines for the dials.

1 month ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 2

It was first done in 1986 in the Buick Riviera and can you guess why they removed it? Driver innattention

1 month ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I'm for physical button supremacy.

1 month ago | Likes 79 Dislikes 0

I lament the loss of tactile phone interaction

1 month ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

I still turn knobs

1 month ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Some companies are apparently working to bring them back.
Because almost all market research shows, no one likes touch controls in cars.

1 month ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Cost reduction and the potential to gate-keep services that would otherwise be standard.

1 month ago | Likes 47 Dislikes 0

You want to have the AC that’s 9$ in winter and 20$ in summer (march - nov.) you have to pay a full year only

1 month ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

Actually, the cost will change real time based on demand. Gotta really jack up the prices during those heat waves, don't you know?

1 month ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Fiddling with that to adjust the AC while driving is also covered by MI distracted driving law.

1 month ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

Except these buttons and knobs are the AC controls, so this image is kinda dumb

1 month ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Except fiddling with those controls also counts.

1 month ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Really? You can't adjust anything on the AC while driving in MI?

1 month ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Depends. If it's a real quick adjustment? Nah. Fiddling with it to get the temp just right? Yeah cause you'll hit the big three distraction criteria, you'll have a hand off the wheel, eyes off the road and not paying attention to your own driving because your focused on the AC.

1 month ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

This thread is always so predictable. Bunch of people who have only experienced legacy auto's god awful attempts at their own or android auto/apple car play. Not one of you is capable of understanding let alone admitting that Tesla's implementation is outstandingly well done. Everything is easily accessible both from the main screen and on the steering wheel. There's also voice commands. Plus the whole car driving for you part. Just safer overall in every possible dimension.

1 month ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 4

On the steering wheel, you say? As in, via physical tactile controls like people are talking about? And you still need to take your eyes off the road to see what you have selected, so while it's better than a purely screen-based interface, you're still distracted while performing a simple task like adjusting the AC.

1 month ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Wow, that sounds exactly like what a normal human being who isn't being paid to shill for a failing third-rate carmaker would say! Sorry, bro, Tesla sucks ass. Cope and seethe. :)

1 month ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

1 month ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

So that picture shows physical climate controls below the touchscreen, interestingly enough

1 month ago | Likes 75 Dislikes 1

Yeah, and it's not even on a screen to adjust ANY climate controls. I get there are actually cars that stupid, even apart from Tesla, but maybe use a picture matching your bullshit. Also, they're going back to knobs, since that's what people want

1 month ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Never let the truth stop you from bitching about something

1 month ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Ya, looks like an aftermarket android auto headset.

1 month ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

Aftermarket Apple CarPlay

1 month ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It is funny how often people seem to pick the worst possible images to try and make a point. It's like a while back someone posted a thing about out of shape people, but their example image was the fucking Kingpin from Spiderman.

1 month ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 0

the point stands, just a terrible example of it.

1 month ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

No, actually, when your example is the literal opposite the point does not actually stand with it.

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