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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jan/30/georgia-county-purges-democrats-from-election-board-and-cancels-sunday-voting
Jan 31, 2022 12:36 PM
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jan/30/georgia-county-purges-democrats-from-election-board-and-cancels-sunday-voting
DewiMorgan
I'd really hope these were the Republican death throes, but it's been like this for centuries. :(
trippingthelightfantastic
Chalybos
Governance without representation leads to very ugly things. Somebody should remind those fuckwits.
TheFastpaws
BearsDontCare
Where are the 2nd amendment peeps? Is this not the fantasy they seek?
bippityboppitybuttsex
Fun Fact: Since 1988, the Republicans have won the popular vote for president ONCE (in 2004), they cannot win by majority, they know this.
Warune
I thought these people had to be voted in how the hell are they allowed to kick other members out?
williamrichards
They didn't?
londonosierra2000
There's no democracy in America
crusader2113
We have more democracy than Belarus.
dontrike
Republicans are the only party that wants it to be illegal to vote.
Jagerbeast
And dems arent stopping it
samanthadlcruz
they only want white people to vote.
AngryGraphicDesigner
Republicans are fucking cowards
JustinSearchOfEnlightenment
Time for the.......
ChalkCoatedDonut
And they are allowed to do it, that "each state on their own" bullshit is what makes some people think America deserves what is happening.
BootsDusty
camn333
"Get assistance jumping out of window" -Putin
detman101
This is the way...
hotaru251
Remind me why in 233 or so yrs we as a nation have no laws to against this?
Eucrow
Republicans make it legal. Then they systematically rig everything to make it impossible to do any good in this world.
Alientongue
Because you guys idolized your constitution even though it makes no sense in modern times
Geo80
Yeah...
SpikeReynolds
At this point, I'm starting to think voting isn't gonna solve much in 2024.
Eucrow
We need to vote even harder. Yes, they are cheating, but we have to make our numbers count.
tkm2
Why are "judges" allowed to select new "judges"? Why are they not elected or appointed? Why are seats reserved for parties? Just askin'.
crusader2113
We weren't even supposed to have political parties in the first place.
SIGMA920
For balance. The FCC for example has a split of 3 majority party and 2 minority party heading it, this way the agency isn't fully controlled
SIGMA920
by whoever is the majority party. In this case, the judges in question normally flipped a coin and whoever won had someone from that party
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be selected. The law changed so that it came down to a vote by the county judges and the vote was won by the republicans.
Redshadow09
This is effectively Authoritative. They are Nazi's in every sense of the word. How would they like it if Republicans were purged to vote?
crusader2113
No votes were purged, they just cancelled Sunday voting.
TheBlueMuppet
Let's try it, im down.
Jagerbeast
"How would you like it" isnt going to stop them
MrNobodyLivesHere
They should be tried for treason, betraying the Constitution is a serious act.
Alientongue
Your constitution is a joke and needs to be modernized. Your country is falling apart these words on a paper wont fix it.
SirShmoopyofAwesomtown
You think the GOP gives a shit about the constitution?
BootsDusty
rbudrick
Why? They don't represent their people. What republicans are on the fence? Democrats? Whose mind needs changing?
zenoshogun
Soo how about the UN comes in to supervise elections and bring in democracy....
ImageAberration
Mad about this? Get involved with Stacy Abrams' voting rights organization, Fair Fight: https://fairfight.com/
protools1983
When does the violence start?
thatsbadmmkay
We had a good run. Well actually we didn't, but I was overconfident in our ability to fight against fascism.
MAN9000
WHAT THE FUCK!? I'm not giving up that easily!
Biker222
Exactly. Fight for your democracy. Whatever it takes. Once it’s gone, it’s gone.
rnd1
You should start fight them for real. Confront, harass, shame them. Personally, not virtually.
Fairemont
The fact that America was so chill with fascism when Germany was doing its thing should have been telling about the future problems.
Greenwaxy
It wasn’t “chill”. Geopolitics is complicated. Taking an economic stand against the human rights abuses is what got US dragged into the war.
Fairemont
There were an awful lot of unpunched Nazis wandering around the country at that time.
Strategicgnomer
Ok seriously, it's time to start arming for war. This is so blatantly corrupt, these fuckers need a bullet to the head.
AlwaysInTheshadows
What is happening to this country holy shit
OuchMouse
My fear is we won’t be able to get out of this peacefully
delpharseven
Fascism.
TheDogEnd
Republicans.
Greenwaxy
What *happened*. Bush v Gore was ultimately when this happened.
kmikl
The exact thing that was always going to happen after Republicans enacted their Southern Strategy
ILikedTheirOldStuffBetter
Hunter called it years ago
ArcticFudgeHorns
He checked out at the right time.
trippingthelightfantastic
iamspartan1262
The 3/5 compromise was also how they, well, compromised on the voting issue
DonnaNobleInTheLibrary
"Ankh-Morpork had dallied with many forms of government and had ended up with that form of democracy known as One Man, One Vote.
DonnaNobleInTheLibrary
"The Patrician was the Man; he had the Vote." -- Terry Pratchett, Mort
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
This is plainly false
Greenwaxy
The antebellum South, slavery and the EC suck to varying degrees. But that quote is inaccurate US history.
Cheomesh
...well, no. The 3/5ths Compromise was the solution at the time.
ObeySparky
It was instituted by the framers of the constitution, so your "quote" is rather misleading with the use of the phrase "during slavery"
trippingthelightfantastic
The founding fathers all owned slaves.
ObeySparky
And slavery still exists today. Just saying that "during slavery" is vague.
kingkongkeom
I agree that the Electoral College needs to go, but what that guy says is completely wrong. Don't spread misinformation to score points!
Silas007
Except he is pretty spot on. 3/5th compromise and all that (Although that also applied to the house of reps and not only to the EC).
iamspartan1262
Exactly, it was the 3/5 compromise how they solved the voting issue
Callynd
And the 3/5ths compromise factors into the Electoral College. So he's still right.
iamspartan1262
He's still right, but not fully correct
bippityboppitybuttsex
Right. The US Senate was the solution... that and the 3/5 rule to get more representation in the House.
Thornaxe
…..so the solution existed prior to the problem?
bippityboppitybuttsex
No, the slave states knew they would be outnumbered by the North and wouldn't ratify the Constitution otherwise
bippityboppitybuttsex
Don't forget the US Senate... the slave states would never have ratified a Constitution that didn't give them veto power over civilization.
Cheomesh
Nah, Virginia was the most populous state at the time, other states wanted a check on that.
bippityboppitybuttsex
293K of which were slaves. Without them, it is the same population as PA... So, basically, the state was a crime against humanity.
Cheomesh
Yeah it was something else. We weren't much better across the river in Maryland, mind.
penguinscience101
The senate was proposed by a northern state though
bippityboppitybuttsex
The idea of the Senate was proposed by Madison (from VA)
Thornaxe
He understood that the most populous states would railroad legislation through if there wasn’t a mechanism for small states to slow them.
bippityboppitybuttsex
You mean rule by majority? Heaven forbid! They might have made slavery illegal. What monsters!
RedPandaFanAccount
wE aRe a RepUbLiC NoT a dEmOcrAcY
90sWereGold
Hahaha spot on.
HandoB4Javert
G0MeatCube
Big oof
elcee50
https://thebaffler.com/latest/were-a-republic-not-a-democracy-burmila My favorite response to that bullshit
BlackHartMTB
Ed Burmila is great. He has gin and tacos on Facebook and the Mass for shut ins podcast.
kaoticgirl
That was an amazing article, thank you.
delpharseven
So what Madison calls a republic is what every other country calls representative democracy? Why does America insist on being non-standard?
DarnThisStuff
We're the manic pixie dream girl country. "Lol, so random!"
Yotarian
... *holds up spork*
Redshadow09
Surprise we are actually hybrid of both be we are a Democracy Republic. But Republicans dont like to be called a Democracy because
Redshadow09
People are downvoting me because they hate hearing the truth but here. https://act.represent.us/sign/democracy-republic
Redshadow09
Its close to sounding like we are Democrats and that pisses them off
LurkerOfDarkness
They'll be happy to know the US is classified as a flawed democracy, and trending down.
RedPandaFanAccount
A republic is a kind of democracy, it's just not a DIRECT democracy.
delpharseven
And there are very very few direct democracies. Off the top of my head, Switzerland is the only country that comes close.
mercyPandaRunner
Eeerrg... "republic" is where the state derives its authority from and "democracy" describes the participation in the political process. A >
mercyPandaRunner
republic can be a democracy or it can have no democracy (like Conducius ideal statesman: 'Ruling on behalf of the people, not on the whim
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of the people'). A non-republican state would, for example, be a classical monarchy, where power is not derived from popular sovereignity,>
delpharseven
There is also the wrinkle of different definitions of republic. In the sense of systems of government it means having an elected head of 1/
delpharseven
state (often called a president but not necessarily so). In the classic more philosophical sense it means a country where the supreme 2/
delpharseven
authority is the law, not the government. For example, Canada is not a republic by the former (non-elected, hereditary head of state 3/
LurkerOfDarkness
Not necessarily a democracy at all.
RedPandaFanAccount
re·pub·lic /rəˈpəblik/ -noun- a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives
LurkerOfDarkness
That's a very poor definition you found yourself there. The Peopls REPUBLIC of North Korea, and it is a republic. Get a better source.
TheSecondPiewackit
Case in point: The Democratic Peoples' Republic of Korea is technically all those things while being a Dictatorial Necrocracy.
Redshadow09
in theory sad to admit in our current climate
TheSecondPiewackit
Yeah, dictionaries are descriptive not prescriptive. Use something with a little more depth and nuance. Strictly speaking a republic...1