TRUMP: Hey JD, do you know what the best thing, the bestest thing, we like the best, only the best for Donald, where was I... oh the best thing about fucking twenty eight your olds is? VANCE: No boss, tell me. TRUMP: It's because there's twenty of them JD, twenty.
great song. My son had it on our family play list and after the wife heard it three times she came to me to ask if we were ok. I had no idea wtf she was talking about.
Wish Clinton had come out with that statement BEFORE he was outed by the dumps. Why hasn't Bill released all the photos his family have taken with Epstein over the years? Are we supposed to believe that they have none in their possession?
I'm all for skewering Trump with these docs, but Bill is in no way being open and honest about his involvement with Epstein. Who else attended these parties? Bill and Hillary know, and they're not telling us. They could hold a presser tomorrow but won't.
"Are we supposed to believe that they have none in their possession?"
I'mma be honest with you, if I knew there were photos of me with a criminal, ESPECIALLY one as prolific and vile as Epstein, I'd want to make sure those were fucking destroyed, not keep them for posterity.
And not just 'cuz Epstein can go to hell, but also because it seems like a kind of basic self-preservation measure to not keep potentially self-incriminating evidence as mementos
I can't figure out if he knows he's actually innocent of doing the worst stuff and was just there because he's Bill and never needed asking to a party twice, or if because he's absolutely in there and knows the one way to avoid having it released is Mutually Assured Prosecution.
I'm leaning heavily towards "he's a party dude, but not an evil asshole" myself. Bro admits he was there but he knows others did waaaaay more messed up stuff there than he ever did.
yeah. if there was any actual solid evidence of him doing ANYTHING republicans would have made sure to blast it from the rooftops. it strains credulity that there can be anything because *they would have used it by now*.
Clintons camp is under the impression that since they can prove that Trump kept in contact with Epstein *after* he was accused, while Clinton cut all ties the second it came to light, they can spin this.
Im pretty sure that IF there was anything incriminating against Clinton, they would have shouted it from the rooftops by now. The only thing we’ve seen is unrelated pictures of him chilling in a public pool at some hotel (not on epstein island), seriously, if thats the best they got on him?
I wouldnt be so hasty to say they both need to go to jail. Bill did shady shit, but looks like at least he aint a pedo.
Ofcourse, knowing about it and saying nothing is also a kind of guilt
This. Honestly, given Lewinsky (and that power imbalance really makes it SA unequivocally) I wouldn't be surprised at all if Bill had done some things... But if he did, they aren't in those files, Trumps Maga would have released that stuff ages ago. Clinton is also not the same sort of idiot as Trump. He is old and retired, if he was in then he'd just shut the fuck up and hope he dies before anything comes of it
No, it's not sexual assault. DC SA law has four degrees, but a common theme across all of them is lack of explicit consent. Both Lewinsky and Clinton have claimed, repeatedly, that there was consent given and that said consent was not coerced. She regretted it later, and said it was unwise and that she was blinded by the allure of the office, but she never said there was not consent.
Wasn't legally SA at the time isn't the same as not being SA. We aren't even a generation past "no rape within marriage". The power imbalance between a sitting US president and a 22 year old intern makes it damn hard to give what we would consider consent... and given how the media went for her, if she claimed she was "pressured" into it, it would have been worse. He was still friends with a man at the time that used power over a lot of young women, not all of them still alive
We are nearly 30 years on, and claiming the president SA'd you leads to lawsuits, public defamation, death threats, while not causing any harm or loss of support for the president. If I was a 22 year old in the white house now, and it happened to me, I'd probably say it was fully consensual if it was the safer option, regardless of truth
Yes I do. And you know it too. You're just calling for him to be investigated because you can't stand the thought of being grateful to someone your parents voted for.
Saying *IF* Bill knew is like saying *IF* Trump knew. They both knew, anyone with functioning eyes can see that, its more about, how much they knew and if they participated.
I don't know how anyone could exist even peripherally in that circle and not know what was going on. And I'm not prepared to give any slack to anyone who knew and didn't call it out. I don't care if Clinton participated or not, he knew, and his silence enabled it. I hope he does hard time over this (he won't).
Hyzenthlay021
News Flash, they are both going to get their wish.
ToasterDent
So Trump is confirming that there are Republicans in the Epstein files.
jrntn
Trump casually admits to not having released all the Epstein files afterall and nobody bats a fucking eye.
Jonson71
FUCKING MOUNTAIN GOATS REFERENCE IN THE WILD!!!!
DarthAndy
TRUMP: Hey JD, do you know what the best thing, the bestest thing, we like the best, only the best for Donald, where was I... oh the best thing about fucking twenty eight your olds is?
VANCE: No boss, tell me.
TRUMP: It's because there's twenty of them JD, twenty.
MotoCanuck
They just wanna see their Fuhrer with a mouth full of Bubba cock
bladderinfection
No Children, by The Mountain Goats. Those lines about dying are in the lyrics. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QS27S3mspjU
Radcjk
great song. My son had it on our family play list and after the wife heard it three times she came to me to ask if we were ok. I had no idea wtf she was talking about.
RedSkizzers
Wish Clinton had come out with that statement BEFORE he was outed by the dumps. Why hasn't Bill released all the photos his family have taken with Epstein over the years? Are we supposed to believe that they have none in their possession?
I'm all for skewering Trump with these docs, but Bill is in no way being open and honest about his involvement with Epstein. Who else attended these parties? Bill and Hillary know, and they're not telling us. They could hold a presser tomorrow but won't.
Daliena06
"Are we supposed to believe that they have none in their possession?"
I'mma be honest with you, if I knew there were photos of me with a criminal, ESPECIALLY one as prolific and vile as Epstein, I'd want to make sure those were fucking destroyed, not keep them for posterity.
And not just 'cuz Epstein can go to hell, but also because it seems like a kind of basic self-preservation measure to not keep potentially self-incriminating evidence as mementos
RedSkizzers
You're right, I also believe they have already destroyed all traces of their involvement.
lackinglife
I do enjoy him calling them out.
"I'm a footnote in those files, release the full thing bitches"
SilverNicktail
I can't figure out if he knows he's actually innocent of doing the worst stuff and was just there because he's Bill and never needed asking to a party twice, or if because he's absolutely in there and knows the one way to avoid having it released is Mutually Assured Prosecution.
lackinglife
I'm leaning heavily towards "he's a party dude, but not an evil asshole" myself. Bro admits he was there but he knows others did waaaaay more messed up stuff there than he ever did.
WoodORama
And if he knew about it and did nothing, he's an accessory who deserves to go down with all of them.
ThomasThundersword
yeah. if there was any actual solid evidence of him doing ANYTHING republicans would have made sure to blast it from the rooftops. it strains credulity that there can be anything because *they would have used it by now*.
ThailandExpress
DVSBSTrD
See have so much in common! We both love throwing innocent people in jail to pretend we're better than everyone else.
samwyze
Drink some water, eat something, and take a shower. Your depression is spilling into the internet again.
VeganFeministFlatEarther
You do realize you just responded to the word "investigation" and suggested that it meant "throw innocent people in jail", right?
Blackthorn74
This is a great power move by Clinton. Well from the stories - I guess he is used to being in charge of Trump.
The701
shameofslate
Daliena06
Nancy Reagan?
shameofslate
Also known as “the blowjob queen of Hollywood.“
BeastofKnowledge
Clintons camp is under the impression that since they can prove that Trump kept in contact with Epstein *after* he was accused, while Clinton cut all ties the second it came to light, they can spin this.
They should both just be under the jail.
DVSBSTrD
You should join ICE since you don't care if people are guilty.
Z0op
Im pretty sure that IF there was anything incriminating against Clinton, they would have shouted it from the rooftops by now. The only thing we’ve seen is unrelated pictures of him chilling in a public pool at some hotel (not on epstein island), seriously, if thats the best they got on him?
I wouldnt be so hasty to say they both need to go to jail. Bill did shady shit, but looks like at least he aint a pedo.
Ofcourse, knowing about it and saying nothing is also a kind of guilt
Forensickle
This. Honestly, given Lewinsky (and that power imbalance really makes it SA unequivocally) I wouldn't be surprised at all if Bill had done some things... But if he did, they aren't in those files, Trumps Maga would have released that stuff ages ago. Clinton is also not the same sort of idiot as Trump. He is old and retired, if he was in then he'd just shut the fuck up and hope he dies before anything comes of it
porcinechoirmaster
No, it's not sexual assault. DC SA law has four degrees, but a common theme across all of them is lack of explicit consent. Both Lewinsky and Clinton have claimed, repeatedly, that there was consent given and that said consent was not coerced. She regretted it later, and said it was unwise and that she was blinded by the allure of the office, but she never said there was not consent.
Forensickle
Wasn't legally SA at the time isn't the same as not being SA. We aren't even a generation past "no rape within marriage". The power imbalance between a sitting US president and a 22 year old intern makes it damn hard to give what we would consider consent... and given how the media went for her, if she claimed she was "pressured" into it, it would have been worse. He was still friends with a man at the time that used power over a lot of young women, not all of them still alive
Forensickle
We are nearly 30 years on, and claiming the president SA'd you leads to lawsuits, public defamation, death threats, while not causing any harm or loss of support for the president. If I was a 22 year old in the white house now, and it happened to me, I'd probably say it was fully consensual if it was the safer option, regardless of truth
LuminoZero
IF Bill knew and/or participated, then absolutely.
DVSBSTrD
He didn't.
Jonson71
You don't know that either.
DVSBSTrD
Yes I do. And you know it too. You're just calling for him to be investigated because you can't stand the thought of being grateful to someone your parents voted for.
BeastofKnowledge
Saying *IF* Bill knew is like saying *IF* Trump knew. They both knew, anyone with functioning eyes can see that, its more about, how much they knew and if they participated.
Skawomplious
I don't know how anyone could exist even peripherally in that circle and not know what was going on. And I'm not prepared to give any slack to anyone who knew and didn't call it out. I don't care if Clinton participated or not, he knew, and his silence enabled it. I hope he does hard time over this (he won't).
BeastofKnowledge