Considering few knows this, and the clients complained just to the shop managers or owners, they could have ignored that specific complaint in order to give a better work environment for the cashiers. Two options: all the managers and clients of the world are synchronized assholes, or that comment is not telling the real reason to us.
One thing I learned in many years of customer service is, you need to be able to tell when it’s time to fire a customer or at best, when to ignore them.
Maybe... and this is just an idea. Instead of basing society around 20 assholes out of I assume thousands of people, we tell those 20 assholes to STFU and mind their own fucking business? Just... you know, spitballing here.
I went from one retail where people complained if you sat down to another where people often commented about how nice it is to work in a place that let you sit. They both usually followed it by saying that they either used to work in retail or are currently working in retail.
I worked a full 5 in a row weekend once (6:30 pm to 4:30 am Friday, 10:30 am to 4:30 am Saturday and Sunday) and the last shift Sunday night was a private event where three people showed up. I didn't see a single person the entire night except the owner who was just making sure I wasn't sitting down.
When working at Geek Squad, there initially were stools the associates could use out front. Until there were complaints, and then they had to remain in the back.
Shitty job became uncomfortable and shitty for no reason.
Well they're at a higher tier on the hierarchy so they are supposed to get better treatment. Or at least that's my best guess at how the thinking goes, even if they aren't really thinking about it.
Sounds like a bunch of people need to be banned and named/shamed with pictures of them in the store front. If they complain about this let them ship them at the till, sit, scan, ring them up and at the end add a 30% asshole tax. Then watch them ban themselves as they leave and "will never stop here ever again!"
I worked at a BP station a while back. We had chairs when I started, but about 4 months into my first year they were taken away. I occasionally fill up from that station when I visit my parents, 20 years later, and there are still no chairs
The idea that Cashiers are not allowed to sit because customer complain if they do doesn't answer the whole question. Customers complain because seeing cashiers sit violates expectations they have grown to expect. Those expectations were cultivated by businesses. They didn't spring out of nowhere. What created those cultural expectations in the first place?
I like how snatching the cardboard the products sit in is normalized in Aldi's, though we've always been doing it when buying canned food at other grocers.
Shit, if there's not many left in the box the cans or packets were loaded into, it's mine now. I'm not taking 10 individual little gravy packets and having them roam free in my cart, I'm taking the thing they're already sitting in that's going to be thrown away.
Aldi is German. In Germany all cashiers sit. And not only in supermarkets but like Ikea, or Hardware Stores. Even on the dudes checking in on self checkouts have a high chair to sit down. Only things that come to mind are bakeries, fast food joints and gas station stores (pretty much whereever they have more jobs than just chashier buisness)
Aldi has been in the US since 1976. It's not like this is some new concept. American store execs just think you need to be uncomfortable to be working hard. The mean-ness is built into the work culture in the country.
I was gonna day that but you got it lol I wish Las Vegas would put some Aldi's locations in. Between them and Winco I'd never need any other grocery store.
To my understanding, California has a new law that's requiring chairs for cashiers to be able to sit on when there's a long line of customers. So my store has chairs up front- but yeah customers do complain. Not just elderly bitching, either. Folks of all ages save for 20s or so make quips about how hard they work and I'm sitting down.. Also the amount of cashiers who have edema issues after decades of work- chairs really need to be more commonplace.
Exactly. If I go somewhere for a service or to buy something, I don’t care if they are standing, sitting or swinging on a trapeze dressed as a duck. Not my business
“He gets to sit and I don’t?! Can’t have that! Let me speak to the manager!” Some people really just need to see service workers in the worst possible working conditions making the least pay possible. They see them as second class citizens and get offended when they’re shown any amount of respect
Politicians, billionaires, and others with power have discovered that rather than making people's lives better, it's easier, cheaper, and just as effective, if not more so, to make other people's lives worse. They don't have to improve anything - they just have to give people someone to look down on so they can say, "Be grateful that you're not them!"
Lets just take the capitalist route. If it were my store I'd have an optional $5 standing cashier fee. This entire fee goes to the cashier. The customer can simply request that the cashier stands while checking them out and the $5 fee is added. If they get mad explain that making the job harder makes it that much harder to get workers and increases the average cost to retain them. Do they think customers who don't care should pay for their preference? That's socialism.
I know exactly the reason why. Its the "Customer is always right" mentality. The cashier isnt a human who deserves to be comfortable, they are a servant who must be ready at a moment notice to leap to any request. Servants don't get to be comfortable.
I’ve been to 20+ countries, my SO love going to Supermarkets to see what the locals eat etc. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone being forced to stand at a register, that just seems dumb, even African countries and India they sit. Clothing stores and similar for some reason often don’t have chairs though, always found that odd,
Really. Sad to hear it. Having worked at places like that, working full time without the ability to sit every once in a while is hell on your legs and feet.
My sister works as a phlebotomist drawing blood all day from people getting paid to donate, they won't let her sit down outside of her lunch break, despite her complaints. Because they rush everything despite it being a safety risk and even a random addict with track marks on their arms might complain and make a scene if someone sits down for a few moments between blood draws. It's insane.
Well, Norway is also a civilized country (at least compared. I do not know all of your guy's troubles). We're kind of just 50 small countries in a trench coat with the folks in charge (And an alarming amount of residents) yearning for the good old days where some people weren't people, etc. Would I call us civilized?
We have our issues here too, but not on the same level. I'm half American and lived a big chunk of my life in the US too, so I'm pretty familiar with it. But never moving back to the US now, I'm pretty sure.
Honestly, even with the tenuous "50 countries in a trench coat" thing we have the federal government and it holds enough power to make things better but often it's not, and its' being sabotaged by those who say they want "small government" who often are looking for ways to exploit their own state's population. Look at how many states are trying to roll back on child labor laws or loosen them.
yeah they're trying to figure out how to make us all more desperate so they can treat us worse and make us never complain on pain of slow death via poverty.
I looked into this specific issue in Norway two years ago, afaict there is no specific requirement for chairs or rubber mats where someone stands all day, art least in a retail setting. There's the general requirements to promote health and such, but I think the more important factor is people realizing dumb shit doesn't create profit.
I think worker's rights came before in most industrialised countries. They need to be seen as 'workers' that provide 'value' before getting any human rights 🙃
Most of our labor laws are from the 1930s and they're trying to take away those. The same piece of legislation that says we get overtime for working more than 40 hours per week is the same legislation that abolished child labor. We need some new labor laws, desperately.
If these piss clowns want it to be like the 19th century again so bad then workers need to start torching warhouses & factories again. If we can't earn a living, why should they?
Possibly, but in my daily life I find the ones that complain the most about "lazy" employees are SAH spouses whose only work experience ends with babysitting children when they were teens.
I remember one market manager pointed out a study showed sitting at work for 8 hours a day caused increase weight gain and see how much healthier we'll be? Ok well we work in a pharmacy we wouldn't be sitting 8 hours a day.
Got in a car wreck, had to sit to tear movie tickets, was told I'm lazy in so many ways. None of them said shit after I told them it was cause I was injured.
I got complaints for not sitting in the office, by the person who distributed "healthy workplace" pamphlets about taking a stroll every so often and looking out the window to rest your eyes from the sad screen.
I'm so lucky I'm union. My department head 5ish years ago took all the chairs from our 10 machine production room. We can absolutely make rate with or without a chair. It took me all of 15 minutes to take the chair from his desk and roll it to my station. My steward found me about an hour later with a 'please return X's chair and pick up one of the old ones from storage.' Never heard another word about it. I'm 45 and done with office people acting that way.
the fucking people's champ over here swinging chairs against that fool. I'd try and be petty and fart into it right before giving it back to the department head.
I'm a driver and I've seen my fellow drivers bitching at the cashier because the guy they parked next to is idling. Your fucking point, bro? How is that in any way her job to handle your hurt fee-fees? Like yeah if the weather is nice and cool shut yer fukin truck off you straight piped twatwaffle, but I'm just gonna be grumpy about the noise in my own noisy ass truck.
It's a truck stop, those aren't quiet places. Even if they don't idle excessively, trucks are coming in and out at all hours of the night. That's what truck stops do. That's why I tried to go to quiet rest areas when I could. But what's the cashier supposed to do about it? Get some noise canceling headphones and fuck off back to your shitty Volvo lol. Those are the types who think they're the most badass truckers out there, but look at what they complain about.
Yup, I park at rest areas and random dirt lots when I can, I like having a hood attached but Swift seems to take that personally. Fuel and shower midday, park in the quiet at night. But I'm also HoH so really the only sounds that bother me is the couple fuckers still running an old square Carrier. God them bastards are loud!
There are some people who genuinely believe they worked hard for the silver spoon in their mouth. It’s not that they believe their lives should be forever comfortable, it’s that someone else’s life must also be more miserable.
Thats the point. When people get mad at retail workers or customer service folks it is 100% about them proving their superiority over someone to themselves. They deserve to sit. A minimum wage worker apparently doesn't.
When self checkout first started being widely adopted, I remember using it and overhearing someone in line saying "pfft I'm not going to do that job, especially not for them" okay, enjoy your false sense of superiority while I'm out 10 mins sooner
I somewhat agree with the customer but for different reasons. For one thing I think it's arrogant as hell to think I can do a cashier's job better than they can. My ass who goes into the grocery store once a week thinks I'll be faster than a trained professional who does this all day, three to five days a week? I get frustrated just trying to look for a produce code that the cashier definitely has memorized. I would rather let someone do their job.
I used to be a cashier, I'd have loved if we had self checkout, let those who want it use it, plus, tbh, it really feels like cashiers don't get bag training anymore, I've had so many crushed fragile items, or spilled liquids
Sounds like there needs to be bunch of people complaining about standing cashiers, just every time you visit a store where all the cashiers are standing and no chair is provided for them to choose, drop a complaint. I'm sure this could be machined to be more than 20 complaints in a month :P
When I was a younger fella working retail, I had minor surgery done on my foot. I could still walk, but needed to stay off it, so I ended up working the till all day in a high chair. Thankfully my manager was an absolute Chad and told both the customers and the GM to suck a railroad spike when they bitched. There was quite a number that were nice as pie to me, then immediately found someone else to complain to though.
I went to a doctor's office where the check-in windows didn't have chairs. The desks were at standing height... for the employees and the patients... at a clinic! I can just barely stand long enough to check-in. That was my whole day's energy.
For the employees too? Sometimes the patient had to stand but the employee gets a tall chair. I have been to a lot of clinics that one stood out to me.
I ALWAYS complain about standing cashiers. There's zero reason to make them stand and I voice that opinion regularly. Local circle K manager even lets people sit now. We can change things!
God fucking damn the managers also sau if you've got time to lean you've got time to clean. While i was fucking standing at the register waiting on people(walmart garden center long distance to check out)
I am not sure what shop she is talking about but 20 in a month its 0.4% if they have like 5K customers in month for example. Why would anybody care for that ?
It’s because any complaints heard more than 2-3 times get taken seriously. It has nothing to do with the percentage of people complaining. When someone complains, it takes an employee to stop doing whatever task they are supposed to be completing to listen to and respond to the complaints, which can vary in intensity from someone saying that’s bad I don’t like it, to outright tantrums about how much that unliked situation affected them. I’m not saying it’s right, I think it’s dumb AF. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Captalism: We replaced all our cashiers with self checkouts, but now you're all steal. So now you have to pay a premium membership fee to use the self checkouts. Additionally, we will not be hiring more cashiers, so you poors can go wait for an hour to get your groceries at the on staffed checkout we have open.
No worries, I'm sure AI cashiers that scan your basket automatically and then throw all that information out and randomly mark you down as having purchased a bunch of super expensive items are coming soon to replace self checkout. /s
My local grocery store IS testing something like that. They have carts with built-in scanners that are supposed to be able to ring you up as you put it in the cart. They have a card reader on the handle, and auto locks so it won't leave the building without payment. There are R&D peeps out front offering it to people. No idea how good it works, I won't use it. I'm worried the next step is it won't be just "offered" soon"
In the St louis area, we have summers reaching 110, and winter below 0. Not as many as other areas, but a few each year. Probably why they're testing them out around here
I once impulse-grabbed a cookie on my way to a self checkout, which was divided from the exit of a grocery store by a 3/4 wall with a flat shelf top. I decided I didn't want it upon checking out and just placed it on the wall, well within reach. By the time I was done paying for and bagging up my remaining items, three security guards and a floor manager were just sort of milling around the exit, their piggy little eyes darting between me and the cookie, visibly sweating. One cookie. 3 idiots.
I sort of hung out, neatly folding my receipt and deciding which pocket to put it into, pointedly staring at them the whole time, then walked all the way around the 3/4 wall, and down to the exit. I might as well have a had a gun trained on them, they didn't move a muscle. Just stared, wide-eyed, watching me leave into the parking lot. These motherfuckers are *insane.*
I routinely steal $5 worth of items most grocery trips, to counter Greed-flation and as payment for doing a cashier's job for free. Usually I do it by "miscounting" items I'm buying multiple of. And only at big-box stores like Target, Walmart, and Meijer.
From some of what I've read, most places saw through those but didn't pursue at the moment, but instead would wait until you've accumulated enough theft to warrant a bigger charge
Yeah I worked in the electronics section At target and our security was super anal about doing walk throughs and checking spider wraps and mag locks daily. We were expected to radio ahead if someone was buying a big dollar item like an iPhone or tv. If we didn't asset protection would stop them trying to walk out and ask for proof of purchase. Now we were a high shrink store so maybe it isn't like that everywhere.
Same thing happened when I was working a security job. I would give access to the people who worked in the building. They would complain to our boss that we were sitting, so they took away our chair during the day and we were only allowed to sit at night after everyone else left.
Can confirm, my previous job was a shift manager. I spent more time than I should have telling other managers to fuck off and to worry about their team instead of mine.
I'm 100% convinced that for most managers and supervisors, especially like low level/middle management types, it's a power trip. And again, I know that most don't get there by being the best or smartest.
I’ve seen good techs and leads become terrible managers after going on a power trip. I think a lot of the bad/dumb ones get in just because the upper managers just want people to always say yes to them. I don’t miss it
Oh I fucking despise my job more and more every day. My boss left so upper management decided to force his position on me without the pay and benefits. I mean I'm doing pretty ok financially but it's still some bullshit and I think about jumping ship every day. At least I've worked here for a while so I'd have a solid resume if I did leave.
America has a culture about shaming poorer paying jobs so that you have to be tougher about things and put up with BS to justify your existence. sitting down is lazy, complaining about labor violations is selfish, discussing your wages is legal but they'll try to tell you it's not. We JUST got rid of some non compete contracts to prevented people from working in their own field after being laid off.
I’m a grocery employee in California and…what is this? Though, that aside, I am actually wayyyy more productive while standing. I’m sure it has to do with how the checkstands are designed, though.
A large part of the culture around America's service industry is contempt for service workers. No small amount of people love to scream at customer service managers over the smallest provocation. Whether it's anger management, entitlement, or being conditioned to want instant gratification is anyone's guess.
US here, I am slowly starting to see more cashiers allowed to sit, but it's not the norm. It's too often assumed if a cashier is sitting, they are on break or lazy or both or also somehow the devil
My loud guess THIS IS AMERICA. DON'T CATCH YA SLIPPIN NOW. Srsly, my take is people there are so obsessed with "pick yourself up by your bootstraps" that they think it means be a fucking asshole and walk over all others and it's the only way you can be a winning American. Since having a little less min wage and working a little less hard for it is seen as un-American.
Of course you guys have chairs. You live in a civilized free country. Americans live in a cess pit of dehumanization and misery... all for more money or bragging rights, take your pick.
Same in norway ofc. But when selling tickets all day at a museum I had to stand. I ended up making a foldable stick with a bike seat on it so I could kinda kinda sit while standing. No visible chair
My boss in Norway decided no more chairs at the front desk after someone sent an email complaining about lazy servicepeople. After the staff at the location spent a week playing on the floor, the chairs were no longer a problem and were allowed to return.
Ireland the same for the big supermarkets. The little shops usually people hopping from till to stock/cleaning etc so they don't but thats it. I worked at a small shop for a while and it's hell on ur feet for 10 hrs
I was in Dublin about a year ago and I gotta say I absolutely love the relaxed attitude cashiers had. I am sure it can vary from place to place, but I got a much more friendly vibe and less formal, which I liked. A lot of friendly sass. Not that Sweden is formal, no no. We are more like "I acknowledge your existence by accepting your money" kind of cashiers, which I can also appreciate.
Not just service jobs... When I worked in an ortho clinic I was busy nonstop from 7a-6p. Now that I'm back in my "traditional" work setting, I still get jumpy when I have down time, like I'm gonna get yelled at for looking at my phone or reading the news for a few minutes.
Time to lean, time to clean. My first job as a kid, I was the hardest worker in the grocery store. Know what that earned me? No raise and more work. They literally assign me the worst chores. When I asked why no one else was getting frost bite from scrubbing the freezers, manager had the balls to say, "'Cause you'll actually DO it."
This is in the similar vein as to why employers discourage employees from talking about their wages with one another. They don't actually forbid it (because that would be illegal) but somehow they've convinced people that discussing wages with one another is bad. All that really does is allow them to exploit workers who don't know their value.
Had a similar story in high school. Boss gave me every shit task to do. I asked him why I always got the crappiest work, and he said the same thing. "Because you'll do it." I replied "Not anymore." and walked out.
This! Hard work is rewarded with more work at the same pay. It's foolish to bust your ass for the company, especially because you are so expendable to the same company.
as a kid, my parents were those people, and brought it home with them. entering the kitchen to make food meant you should be responsible for any mess *they* left, if you had time to eat, you had time to clean up after your parents. We didn't get anything extra for it, but if they found a mess we didn't find or clean up, we got reminded we were not earning our keep and how we were lazy. So when I got to jobs that did the same I was pretty much already prepared to not go the extra mile
I'm not going to lie, I do ask my kids to do chores I don't want to do, but it is always a choice. They get money from it. We all have chores to keep this home running, but don't you dare take more than your share without reward. (Actually I find it hard to keep cash on hand, so we keep a running log of the bank of mom on the white board, and they cash in when they want extra online purchases. I also keep an envelope of cash so the kids can go to the nearby store for treats, no work required.)
I could earn money, but I had to do things like, pull all the weeds around the house or something that'd be excessive, they'd also get upset if my friends came over at all without me asking for more chores to do before they came over. This just stopped people from visiting. I like your system more.
I was once immediately scolded by the boss, because i was standing behind the bar counter and put a hand in an pocket and leaned against a wall. I wasn't even the bar tender. I worked in the brewery attached to it and was just up there for a second to check that the tap was drawing beer from down in our realm. There wasn't even a single customer. It was like 9 in the morning.
I was doing something. That something included waiting a few seconds for the beer to come and to check that it was coming correctly. I wasn't even authorized to do anything else, like radomnly cleaning another guys working place. Like, what the hell is that dumb shit? Do you demand the heating specialist to clean your bathroom while he waits for the heater to get hot when he checks it?
basically same happened to me. I got scolded by a regional manager because I paused to collect my thoughts for literally one minute instead of going and facing the shelves. I'm a dog groomer. I don't work the sales floor or "face". It was 8 AM, the store wasn't even open to customers except grooming drop-offs. Everything was still clean from the night before. Does the mental disconnect from reality happen after people are promoted to management, or are they born like that?? ridiculous.
My sister and I worked the front desk of a hotel in the evening. We take turns sitting on the printer paper box when no one was looking. But we got in trouble went caught.
lonelyrangerofthedreams
Considering few knows this, and the clients complained just to the shop managers or owners, they could have ignored that specific complaint in order to give a better work environment for the cashiers. Two options: all the managers and clients of the world are synchronized assholes, or that comment is not telling the real reason to us.
VashTehStampede
Sounds like complainers need to be forbidden to return.
Aeonika
Sounds like a group of people who can be told where to cram it. The work is getting done, mind your fucking business.
nothingtolurkhere
I'll bet I can guess what color hat those complainers wear...
aguacatedeldiablo
Managers need to learn how to tell customers to fuck off when they complain about poor people being treated like humans.
SupposablyPersnickity
One thing I learned in many years of customer service is, you need to be able to tell when it’s time to fire a customer or at best, when to ignore them.
FranticRed
This is why I hate people.
CelestialSea
Maybe... and this is just an idea. Instead of basing society around 20 assholes out of I assume thousands of people, we tell those 20 assholes to STFU and mind their own fucking business? Just... you know, spitballing here.
rfleming1080
I went from one retail where people complained if you sat down to another where people often commented about how nice it is to work in a place that let you sit. They both usually followed it by saying that they either used to work in retail or are currently working in retail.
weave
I worked a full 5 in a row weekend once (6:30 pm to 4:30 am Friday, 10:30 am to 4:30 am Saturday and Sunday) and the last shift Sunday night was a private event where three people showed up. I didn't see a single person the entire night except the owner who was just making sure I wasn't sitting down.
ShameSpearOfHurt
When working at Geek Squad, there initially were stools the associates could use out front. Until there were complaints, and then they had to remain in the back.
Shitty job became uncomfortable and shitty for no reason.
YeroctheBarbarian
There is an erroneous philosophy in America that if you are sitting you are not working. Thanks capitalism!/s
IlluminaBlade
It's a conspiracy by big stand to sell more standing desks.
3nd3rwiggin
If you are sitting while the customer is standing. Bet those same people complaining sit at their desk all day at their job.
thedudeman519
Ans spent the last 15/20 minutes if not more sitting in the car driving to the store
feryooday
if we sit down while we eat our meal we have to clock out…
feryooday
and that’s the only time we get to sit.
RHFiesling
ahem. office work?
thedudeman519
Well theyre better people obviously they deserve it /s
AnythingMuchShorter
Well they're at a higher tier on the hierarchy so they are supposed to get better treatment. Or at least that's my best guess at how the thinking goes, even if they aren't really thinking about it.
sibers73
Is this an American thing because in England they all have chairs and rightly so.
StunttheRunt
Sounds like a bunch of people need to be banned and named/shamed with pictures of them in the store front. If they complain about this let them ship them at the till, sit, scan, ring them up and at the end add a 30% asshole tax. Then watch them ban themselves as they leave and "will never stop here ever again!"
derekjohn
In Europe I've never seen a cashier stand except when the've got 'numb-bum' from sitting. Do Americans enjoy making workers suffer ?
Orakia80
Yes.
imemmental
Britain is a fucking dump for a lot of reasons but at least our cashiers can sit down
TharrickLawson
I worked at a BP station a while back. We had chairs when I started, but about 4 months into my first year they were taken away.
I occasionally fill up from that station when I visit my parents, 20 years later, and there are still no chairs
natabus
The idea that Cashiers are not allowed to sit because customer complain if they do doesn't answer the whole question. Customers complain because seeing cashiers sit violates expectations they have grown to expect. Those expectations were cultivated by businesses. They didn't spring out of nowhere. What created those cultural expectations in the first place?
rhxretrohelix
Is this murica only?
AfterTheRainComesTheRainbow
Nope. Most Aussie places are included :(
Sw1ftTurtle
Not if you include Canada in murika.
ThePastmaster
The fuck... I live in Sweden and we have chairs for the cashiers because standing up for 8 hours is inhumane.
CommanderKitten
And stupid. Inhumane and stupid. Uncomfortable employees are unhappy employees. Making your employees unhappy is a real dumb way to run a business.
pickledpunk021
jbsquare
I came here for this.
HawkmanXLII
RHFiesling
This is something that is genuine ´Murican and no once has yet been able to explain to me WHY? why is the US inherently cruel?
Feralkyn
Others are saying it's Canada and Australia too :(
HurricaneShade
They do at Aldi
IlluminaBlade
I like how snatching the cardboard the products sit in is normalized in Aldi's, though we've always been doing it when buying canned food at other grocers.
Greypuppy
Shit, if there's not many left in the box the cans or packets were loaded into, it's mine now. I'm not taking 10 individual little gravy packets and having them roam free in my cart, I'm taking the thing they're already sitting in that's going to be thrown away.
Admiral27
Aldi is German. In Germany all cashiers sit. And not only in supermarkets but like Ikea, or Hardware Stores. Even on the dudes checking in on self checkouts have a high chair to sit down. Only things that come to mind are bakeries, fast food joints and gas station stores (pretty much whereever they have more jobs than just chashier buisness)
Snarklepuff
Aldi has been in the US since 1976. It's not like this is some new concept. American store execs just think you need to be uncomfortable to be working hard. The mean-ness is built into the work culture in the country.
TrumpRapesChildren
I was gonna day that but you got it lol I wish Las Vegas would put some Aldi's locations in. Between them and Winco I'd never need any other grocery store.
Mexrose75
Live and Las Vegas and there may be a Aldis coming to Henderson.
TrumpRapesChildren
....and ofc I live in Lone Mountain area lol
arumunus
To my understanding, California has a new law that's requiring chairs for cashiers to be able to sit on when there's a long line of customers.
So my store has chairs up front- but yeah customers do complain. Not just elderly bitching, either. Folks of all ages save for 20s or so make quips about how hard they work and I'm sitting down..
Also the amount of cashiers who have edema issues after decades of work- chairs really need to be more commonplace.
commentsivehadafew
Seeing others suffer makes them feel better about their own shitty lives
craigwilliams69
Exactly. If I go somewhere for a service or to buy something, I don’t care if they are standing, sitting or swinging on a trapeze dressed as a duck. Not my business
happyrabbitzz
Not sure about other countries/cultures, but this is the american way!
capnadorable
“He gets to sit and I don’t?! Can’t have that! Let me speak to the manager!” Some people really just need to see service workers in the worst possible working conditions making the least pay possible. They see them as second class citizens and get offended when they’re shown any amount of respect
KidCharlemagne524
Politicians, billionaires, and others with power have discovered that rather than making people's lives better, it's easier, cheaper, and just as effective, if not more so, to make other people's lives worse. They don't have to improve anything - they just have to give people someone to look down on so they can say, "Be grateful that you're not them!"
AnythingMuchShorter
Lets just take the capitalist route. If it were my store I'd have an optional $5 standing cashier fee. This entire fee goes to the cashier. The customer can simply request that the cashier stands while checking them out and the $5 fee is added. If they get mad explain that making the job harder makes it that much harder to get workers and increases the average cost to retain them. Do they think customers who don't care should pay for their preference? That's socialism.
moonshadowkati
I imagine that those complaints stem from the fact that cashiers don't normally sit. If they did, it would be normal.
BrainTaffy
This right here. It’s abnormal til it’s normal.
Kittynomnoms
I mean ideally companies would actually care about their employees enough to see complaints like that and say "No, get fucked."
HandsomePenguin
Okay. But why complain. Oh no, something nontypical that affects my customer experience zero percent.
usernameusedinlessplatforms2
US is full of assholes and shitty ppl ( see: Trumps popularity and GQP in general.)
HandsomePenguin
I know exactly the reason why. Its the "Customer is always right" mentality. The cashier isnt a human who deserves to be comfortable, they are a servant who must be ready at a moment notice to leap to any request. Servants don't get to be comfortable.
usernameusedinlessplatforms2
Our customer service course here (not US) started with: "Remember, customer is always WRONG! But you cannot say it straight to their face.... "
BorkBorkasson
Here in Norway, they pretty much all sit, or at least have a stool available for them :)
Trustrup
I’ve been to 20+ countries, my SO love going to Supermarkets to see what the locals eat etc. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone being forced to stand at a register, that just seems dumb, even African countries and India they sit. Clothing stores and similar for some reason often don’t have chairs though, always found that odd,
jesuisgur
I was trying to recall ever seeing standing cashiers, then I read the comments: it must be a US thing, of course...
SergeantMajorSpoiler
Ditto.
TinyLiehon
Yeah, this feels like a US thing. Something of bar stool height is common over here
NorwegianJim
Certain malls discourage sitting in Norway too, precisely because it looks lazy and unprofessional.
BorkBorkasson
Really. Sad to hear it. Having worked at places like that, working full time without the ability to sit every once in a while is hell on your legs and feet.
NorwegianJim
Tell me about it. GF works retail and has a knee injury... :(
paynoattentiontousernames
I guess you guys have less Karens. Lucky bastards.
ragekritz
My sister works as a phlebotomist drawing blood all day from people getting paid to donate, they won't let her sit down outside of her lunch break, despite her complaints. Because they rush everything despite it being a safety risk and even a random addict with track marks on their arms might complain and make a scene if someone sits down for a few moments between blood draws. It's insane.
DigitalHare
Well, Norway is also a civilized country (at least compared. I do not know all of your guy's troubles). We're kind of just 50 small countries in a trench coat with the folks in charge (And an alarming amount of residents) yearning for the good old days where some people weren't people, etc. Would I call us civilized?
BorkBorkasson
We have our issues here too, but not on the same level. I'm half American and lived a big chunk of my life in the US too, so I'm pretty familiar with it. But never moving back to the US now, I'm pretty sure.
ragekritz
Honestly, even with the tenuous "50 countries in a trench coat" thing we have the federal government and it holds enough power to make things better but often it's not, and its' being sabotaged by those who say they want "small government" who often are looking for ways to exploit their own state's population. Look at how many states are trying to roll back on child labor laws or loosen them.
swedeonamoose
Well you know we got that thing called workers rights here in Europe, large parts of the US is still trying to figure it out.
ragekritz
yeah they're trying to figure out how to make us all more desperate so they can treat us worse and make us never complain on pain of slow death via poverty.
Eroen0
I looked into this specific issue in Norway two years ago, afaict there is no specific requirement for chairs or rubber mats where someone stands all day, art least in a retail setting. There's the general requirements to promote health and such, but I think the more important factor is people realizing dumb shit doesn't create profit.
Spoofbot
Sadly plenty of us have it figured out (in operation "look at how Europe does it"), but the small part are the ones in charge :/
TheWombatStrikesAgain
They still pronounce it "communism".
DaSauceSeeker
The US still hasn't figured out people's rights... workers' rights are still a ways off...
Santorrr
I think worker's rights came before in most industrialised countries. They need to be seen as 'workers' that provide 'value' before getting any human rights 🙃
DaSauceSeeker
An unfortunately valid point....
Sunegami
Having the most workers is how you win capitalism
mrmartini
Most of our labor laws are from the 1930s and they're trying to take away those. The same piece of legislation that says we get overtime for working more than 40 hours per week is the same legislation that abolished child labor. We need some new labor laws, desperately.
DonkeyGoat
Couple of assing fuckholes are trying to say that the National Labor Relations Board is unconstitutional.
mrmartini
If these piss clowns want it to be like the 19th century again so bad then workers need to start torching warhouses & factories again. If we can't earn a living, why should they?
swedeonamoose
Extra funny when the people complaining have jobs where they sit around all day long in a office
Sw1ftTurtle
how do you know what jobs they have?
LooseyGooseyBrett
I've studied ergonomics on this topic. Research shows neither one is good for you if you only have one choice. You need variance.
maxximii
Possibly, but in my daily life I find the ones that complain the most about "lazy" employees are SAH spouses whose only work experience ends with babysitting children when they were teens.
Ryebread91
I remember one market manager pointed out a study showed sitting at work for 8 hours a day caused increase weight gain and see how much healthier we'll be? Ok well we work in a pharmacy we wouldn't be sitting 8 hours a day.
Heisanevilgenius
"funny"
youareandshallalwaysbemyfuzzy
Got in a car wreck, had to sit to tear movie tickets, was told I'm lazy in so many ways. None of them said shit after I told them it was cause I was injured.
marsgoose
I got complaints for not sitting in the office, by the person who distributed "healthy workplace" pamphlets about taking a stroll every so often and looking out the window to rest your eyes from the sad screen.
InfocalypseRising
Those are “real” jobs so it’s okay. Cashiers aren’t worthy of respect and must be made to suffer.
backrideup9
I'm so lucky I'm union. My department head 5ish years ago took all the chairs from our 10 machine production room. We can absolutely make rate with or without a chair. It took me all of 15 minutes to take the chair from his desk and roll it to my station. My steward found me about an hour later with a 'please return X's chair and pick up one of the old ones from storage.' Never heard another word about it. I'm 45 and done with office people acting that way.
TheZommie
the fucking people's champ over here swinging chairs against that fool. I'd try and be petty and fart into it right before giving it back to the department head.
varyael
Truck driver bitching a truck stop clerk is sitting, I cam totally see it
MediocreExtremist
from what I see online about America, it would be able-bodied fat Karens on electric disability scooters that complain the loudest, no ?
EmeRgencyDrD
Some truckers are basically the same.
SkidMarc25
But with 'don't tread on me' decals on their scooter.
IHaveGreatKittenRecipes
I'm a driver and I've seen my fellow drivers bitching at the cashier because the guy they parked next to is idling. Your fucking point, bro? How is that in any way her job to handle your hurt fee-fees? Like yeah if the weather is nice and cool shut yer fukin truck off you straight piped twatwaffle, but I'm just gonna be grumpy about the noise in my own noisy ass truck.
thedarkcanuck
It's a truck stop, those aren't quiet places. Even if they don't idle excessively, trucks are coming in and out at all hours of the night. That's what truck stops do. That's why I tried to go to quiet rest areas when I could. But what's the cashier supposed to do about it? Get some noise canceling headphones and fuck off back to your shitty Volvo lol. Those are the types who think they're the most badass truckers out there, but look at what they complain about.
IHaveGreatKittenRecipes
Yup, I park at rest areas and random dirt lots when I can, I like having a hood attached but Swift seems to take that personally. Fuel and shower midday, park in the quiet at night. But I'm also HoH so really the only sounds that bother me is the couple fuckers still running an old square Carrier. God them bastards are loud!
SerialChickenLover
There are some people who genuinely believe they worked hard for the silver spoon in their mouth. It’s not that they believe their lives should be forever comfortable, it’s that someone else’s life must also be more miserable.
sniggly5212
Thats the point. When people get mad at retail workers or customer service folks it is 100% about them proving their superiority over someone to themselves. They deserve to sit. A minimum wage worker apparently doesn't.
Cinammontoastcrunch
When self checkout first started being widely adopted, I remember using it and overhearing someone in line saying "pfft I'm not going to do that job, especially not for them" okay, enjoy your false sense of superiority while I'm out 10 mins sooner
Heisanevilgenius
I somewhat agree with the customer but for different reasons. For one thing I think it's arrogant as hell to think I can do a cashier's job better than they can. My ass who goes into the grocery store once a week thinks I'll be faster than a trained professional who does this all day, three to five days a week? I get frustrated just trying to look for a produce code that the cashier definitely has memorized. I would rather let someone do their job.
Cinammontoastcrunch
I used to be a cashier, I'd have loved if we had self checkout, let those who want it use it, plus, tbh, it really feels like cashiers don't get bag training anymore, I've had so many crushed fragile items, or spilled liquids
ilikepot8os
I said that. But the context was providing free labor to multi billion dollar company. It wasn't about being above the retail workers.
I also don't seem to get out any faster as there always seems to be a need for an employee to come over fix or verify something.
Cinammontoastcrunch
It's always significantly faster for me, and my bags are much better packed.
astrangehop
I was a better cashier when I was an actual cashier. Those skills are still there.
Felberin
Sounds like there needs to be bunch of people complaining about standing cashiers, just every time you visit a store where all the cashiers are standing and no chair is provided for them to choose, drop a complaint. I'm sure this could be machined to be more than 20 complaints in a month :P
SomeDumbBug
You know what. Thank you. I'm going to do this from now-on. Any job I see where someone is standing instead of validly sitting.
sortofkindamadbutnotreally
When I was a younger fella working retail, I had minor surgery done on my foot. I could still walk, but needed to stay off it, so I ended up working the till all day in a high chair. Thankfully my manager was an absolute Chad and told both the customers and the GM to suck a railroad spike when they bitched. There was quite a number that were nice as pie to me, then immediately found someone else to complain to though.
aerophex
"nice as pie" you from the South or the Midwest?
waitwuh
i’m guessing south because i’m midwestern and never heard the phrase but idk for sure
Darprice
Eh, they’ll just get rid of cashiers quicker than they are trying to now.
ArcaneM37
I went to a doctor's office where the check-in windows didn't have chairs. The desks were at standing height... for the employees and the patients... at a clinic! I can just barely stand long enough to check-in. That was my whole day's energy.
HelpfulCorn
I have never seen a check-in window with patient chairs
ArcaneM37
For the employees too? Sometimes the patient had to stand but the employee gets a tall chair. I have been to a lot of clinics that one stood out to me.
nigglemaster
LET'S DO IT! SIT FOR YOUR HEALTH! NOT FOR THE WEALTH!
YourBiologicalStepDadUncleRob
That is a great idea
RacecarIsRacecarBackwards
Bring in some ppl from Europe, where standing cashiers are an unusual sight.
clutch26
Some might even make a script to do this once / twice a day whether or not they go to the store.
varyael
I ALWAYS complain about standing cashiers. There's zero reason to make them stand and I voice that opinion regularly. Local circle K manager even lets people sit now. We can change things!
Mahcks
What do you do? Ask for a manager?
varyael
Usually there's a manager and clerk at both registers. They had an employee standing 8 hours with a boot on (sprained ankle) for days
I looked at the manager, said, "there's literally a footstool for the cigarettes he can sit on 3 feet behind him, why aren't you letting him?"
"We aren't supposed to sit while working"
"Why do you have a chair in the back office then?"
"Because it's in the back"
"So you want employees to suffer up front? Who says no sitting? You? That's fucked up"
varyael
I'm in there like 3-4 times a day. Public shaming works (there was a customer behind me, another regular, manager looked embarrassed AF)
MoopsyLD
God fucking damn the managers also sau if you've got time to lean you've got time to clean. While i was fucking standing at the register waiting on people(walmart garden center long distance to check out)
Sw1ftTurtle
They would fire the cashier for standing.
ShadeWisdomCrafts
This worked for a little bit. But for some reason I’m the past 30 years all the cashier Unions disappeared….
madmanz123
That's a good idea
kickmyballsrealhard
Was t this an episode on Seinfeld?
Imademyselfsquirtle
He's a pedo.
BurlRavenscroft
it was with a security guard at a clothing store. they deserve chairs but don't get cashiers rocking chairs, was my takeaway
joepineapplesindrag
Iirc the guard fell asleep when they sat down. I would too.
thedudeman519
They fall asleep standing up too!
nosoupforoldmen
Make it a movement and we'll change the world for cashiers! Maybe we could all insist they get a living wage too.
NewCrobuzonCitizen
I am not sure what shop she is talking about but 20 in a month its 0.4% if they have like 5K customers in month for example. Why would anybody care for that ?
jesseCandyBaroness
It’s because any complaints heard more than 2-3 times get taken seriously. It has nothing to do with the percentage of people complaining. When someone complains, it takes an employee to stop doing whatever task they are supposed to be completing to listen to and respond to the complaints, which can vary in intensity from someone saying that’s bad I don’t like it, to outright tantrums about how much that unliked situation affected them. I’m not saying it’s right, I think it’s dumb AF. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
AxelBeingCivil
Just complain about staff not being treated decently in general. Companies do actually listen to complaints, as the above example shows.
G0MeatCube
We did it with helldivers.
Gayforbae
?
pixelsnader
They added chairs to helldivers?
G0MeatCube
thedudeman519
MAn those devs think of everything
YeroctheBarbarian
Capitalism: Don’t worry we’re replacing them with self checkouts anyway.
gooftroop
With one actual cashier checking IDs and resolving every single error for like 20 self checkouts.
LazyUsername99
Captalism: We replaced all our cashiers with self checkouts, but now you're all steal. So now you have to pay a premium membership fee to use the self checkouts. Additionally, we will not be hiring more cashiers, so you poors can go wait for an hour to get your groceries at the on staffed checkout we have open.
TheMightyMollusk
So I should go shop somewhere else, gotcha.
Jarjarthejedi
No worries, I'm sure AI cashiers that scan your basket automatically and then throw all that information out and randomly mark you down as having purchased a bunch of super expensive items are coming soon to replace self checkout. /s
CoinedWatcher
My local grocery store IS testing something like that. They have carts with built-in scanners that are supposed to be able to ring you up as you put it in the cart. They have a card reader on the handle, and auto locks so it won't leave the building without payment. There are R&D peeps out front offering it to people. No idea how good it works, I won't use it. I'm worried the next step is it won't be just "offered" soon"
dextarrogue
Those won't last long in the north and the cost would be so high I don't see it taking off. Heat in the south would kill the electronics too.
CoinedWatcher
In the St louis area, we have summers reaching 110, and winter below 0. Not as many as other areas, but a few each year. Probably why they're testing them out around here
Gayforbae
Yeah, the 10000 chicken nugget gambit.
DonkeyGoat
A lot of places are reversing that. Too much theft, both real and imagined.
keystotheairlock
I once impulse-grabbed a cookie on my way to a self checkout, which was divided from the exit of a grocery store by a 3/4 wall with a flat shelf top. I decided I didn't want it upon checking out and just placed it on the wall, well within reach. By the time I was done paying for and bagging up my remaining items, three security guards and a floor manager were just sort of milling around the exit, their piggy little eyes darting between me and the cookie, visibly sweating. One cookie. 3 idiots.
keystotheairlock
I sort of hung out, neatly folding my receipt and deciding which pocket to put it into, pointedly staring at them the whole time, then walked all the way around the 3/4 wall, and down to the exit. I might as well have a had a gun trained on them, they didn't move a muscle. Just stared, wide-eyed, watching me leave into the parking lot. These motherfuckers are *insane.*
DonkeyGoat
Holy shit
TakeAChillPill16
I routinely steal $5 worth of items most grocery trips, to counter Greed-flation and as payment for doing a cashier's job for free. Usually I do it by "miscounting" items I'm buying multiple of. And only at big-box stores like Target, Walmart, and Meijer.
TheZommie
ah, the "banana discount" was the only way i could afford a PS3/4/5 though : (
HandoB4Javert
Five fingered freebie?
Mercenarity
Six-fingered, if you've got a beef with Inigo Montoya.
Holzter
From some of what I've read, most places saw through those but didn't pursue at the moment, but instead would wait until you've accumulated enough theft to warrant a bigger charge
GGBetrayer
Can confirm
Lutki
Yeah I worked in the electronics section At target and our security was super anal about doing walk throughs and checking spider wraps and mag locks daily. We were expected to radio ahead if someone was buying a big dollar item like an iPhone or tv. If we didn't asset protection would stop them trying to walk out and ask for proof of purchase. Now we were a high shrink store so maybe it isn't like that everywhere.
nvrgnagivuup
Same thing happened when I was working a security job. I would give access to the people who worked in the building. They would complain to our boss that we were sitting, so they took away our chair during the day and we were only allowed to sit at night after everyone else left.
alwaysacleric
Management is fucking dumb most of the time- me, a shift manager
nvrgnagivuup
Can confirm, my previous job was a shift manager. I spent more time than I should have telling other managers to fuck off and to worry about their team instead of mine.
thedudeman519
Bro my current department has 6 managers right now! That is obscene
alwaysacleric
I'm 100% convinced that for most managers and supervisors, especially like low level/middle management types, it's a power trip. And again, I know that most don't get there by being the best or smartest.
nvrgnagivuup
I’ve seen good techs and leads become terrible managers after going on a power trip. I think a lot of the bad/dumb ones get in just because the upper managers just want people to always say yes to them. I don’t miss it
alwaysacleric
Oh I fucking despise my job more and more every day. My boss left so upper management decided to force his position on me without the pay and benefits. I mean I'm doing pretty ok financially but it's still some bullshit and I think about jumping ship every day. At least I've worked here for a while so I'd have a solid resume if I did leave.
just4thelolz
I live in Germany and what is this?!?
drawing34212
We unfortunately live with a bunch asshats...like 9 out of 10 at this rate
ragekritz
America has a culture about shaming poorer paying jobs so that you have to be tougher about things and put up with BS to justify your existence. sitting down is lazy, complaining about labor violations is selfish, discussing your wages is legal but they'll try to tell you it's not. We JUST got rid of some non compete contracts to prevented people from working in their own field after being laid off.
CleverGroom
I'm just glad we didn't impose ALL of our bullshit on you folks during the occupation.
DaBaiMa
Even in the stupid UK they can sit
mikeatike
America, full of Karens and Corporations.
SirWadeWilson
Don't worry they get to sit at American Aldi
popeyeNL
Cashiers in the Netherlands sit as well.
ChocolateCookieAndFudge
France here: our cashiers work sitted.
unluckyandbored
Yet another example of American dystopian capitalism.
hllb
nearly all of the clothing stores(and maany others) in germany have standing cashier...different in grocery stores though
SeeMyVests
I’m a grocery employee in California and…what is this? Though, that aside, I am actually wayyyy more productive while standing. I’m sure it has to do with how the checkstands are designed, though.
moisthole
In America if you work a menial job and don’t look like you are suffering people get upset.
thedarkcanuck
The American dream
Dolenmorgul
America is poopoo head
TheEvenPrez
A large part of the culture around America's service industry is contempt for service workers. No small amount of people love to scream at customer service managers over the smallest provocation. Whether it's anger management, entitlement, or being conditioned to want instant gratification is anyone's guess.
LeSethX
US here, I am slowly starting to see more cashiers allowed to sit, but it's not the norm. It's too often assumed if a cashier is sitting, they are on break or lazy or both or also somehow the devil
torcue
Control.
tzahtman
A post on the internet, but that's not important right now.
SaladinIskander
The land of the free, the home of the brave, where the class system and royalty doesn't exist.
MrCheesebiscuit
The good land of freedom, capitalism and democracy my friend, hush... shhh go to sleep...
NothingPrince
Thank you for Aldi.
KKinDK
Cashiers all sit here in Denmark too! Why wouldn't you want someone to be comfortable while doing their job??
feryooday
because then you look lazy, and that’s unacceptable.
pareidoliaperson
My loud guess THIS IS AMERICA. DON'T CATCH YA SLIPPIN NOW. Srsly, my take is people there are so obsessed with "pick yourself up by your bootstraps" that they think it means be a fucking asshole and walk over all others and it's the only way you can be a winning American. Since having a little less min wage and working a little less hard for it is seen as un-American.
FutureBeachBum
See, the US government is legally owned by corporations, so US residents are just slaves who get wifi and fast food.
Deshalope
Latvia - cashiers always sit. Also the Customer Service Small Talk(TM) starts and ends at a "Hello".
mikeatike
You had me at Hello
sandleWrecker
In the UK they sit
YourBiologicalStepDadUncleRob
"I am not happy unless you're uncomfortable doing your job"
zalurker
South Africa here. Same.
YeroctheBarbarian
American style capitalism.
BukkakeRider3000
Having to work with fractured leg. Jesus.
guyintoga
Canada as well :/
ButterfaceTaintClown
chairs are pretty expensive guys. /capitalism
LoftheDesert
Sweden here and same. Cashiers have chairs
tomlabik
Czech casheirs has speciál "bar" chairs with air cusionig
Santorrr
Finland chiming in. Da fuq.
Agent00Negative
Of course you guys have chairs. You live in a civilized free country. Americans live in a cess pit of dehumanization and misery... all for more money or bragging rights, take your pick.
Kingstad
Same in norway ofc. But when selling tickets all day at a museum I had to stand. I ended up making a foldable stick with a bike seat on it so I could kinda kinda sit while standing. No visible chair
Eroen0
My boss in Norway decided no more chairs at the front desk after someone sent an email complaining about lazy servicepeople. After the staff at the location spent a week playing on the floor, the chairs were no longer a problem and were allowed to return.
ProppaGanda
Also, that's what unions are for. Seriously, it sounds like that place needed to get unionized very badly.
Eroen0
I agree, but it's not like I can force my friends to join. I try to carefully bring it up every time someone does something horrible to them.
Hemelsblauw
Dutch here. In supermarkets they have chairs and not cheap ones.
IAmASentientWaffle
Probably also required by law
Hemelsblauw
Yes
Socksforgloves
Ireland the same for the big supermarkets. The little shops usually people hopping from till to stock/cleaning etc so they don't but thats it. I worked at a small shop for a while and it's hell on ur feet for 10 hrs
LoftheDesert
I was in Dublin about a year ago and I gotta say I absolutely love the relaxed attitude cashiers had. I am sure it can vary from place to place, but I got a much more friendly vibe and less formal, which I liked. A lot of friendly sass. Not that Sweden is formal, no no. We are more like "I acknowledge your existence by accepting your money" kind of cashiers, which I can also appreciate.
Socksforgloves
Friendly sass! This is the best description of 'Banter' I have ever heard!
InfocalypseRising
In America if you work a menial service job you have to appear constantly busy or people get REALLY mad about it.
StellarJay77
Gotta slave away to earn that type of wage.
MadamPuddifoot
Not just service jobs... When I worked in an ortho clinic I was busy nonstop from 7a-6p. Now that I'm back in my "traditional" work setting, I still get jumpy when I have down time, like I'm gonna get yelled at for looking at my phone or reading the news for a few minutes.
mamapants
Time to lean, time to clean. My first job as a kid, I was the hardest worker in the grocery store. Know what that earned me? No raise and more work. They literally assign me the worst chores. When I asked why no one else was getting frost bite from scrubbing the freezers, manager had the balls to say, "'Cause you'll actually DO it."
StellarJay77
This is in the similar vein as to why employers discourage employees from talking about their wages with one another. They don't actually forbid it (because that would be illegal) but somehow they've convinced people that discussing wages with one another is bad. All that really does is allow them to exploit workers who don't know their value.
unluckyandbored
Had a similar story in high school. Boss gave me every shit task to do. I asked him why I always got the crappiest work, and he said the same thing. "Because you'll do it." I replied "Not anymore." and walked out.
arfysdad
This! Hard work is rewarded with more work at the same pay. It's foolish to bust your ass for the company, especially because you are so expendable to the same company.
beatmacster
I learnt this waaay too late. Taken me a while but I work at a more reasonable rate now.
elucca
And they have zero reflection that they're teaching everyone to not stand out, and to do the bare minimum.
mamapants
For fuckin real. Literally teaching people that hard work is punished, and minimum effort is rewarded.
ragekritz
as a kid, my parents were those people, and brought it home with them. entering the kitchen to make food meant you should be responsible for any mess *they* left, if you had time to eat, you had time to clean up after your parents. We didn't get anything extra for it, but if they found a mess we didn't find or clean up, we got reminded we were not earning our keep and how we were lazy. So when I got to jobs that did the same I was pretty much already prepared to not go the extra mile
mamapants
I'm not going to lie, I do ask my kids to do chores I don't want to do, but it is always a choice. They get money from it. We all have chores to keep this home running, but don't you dare take more than your share without reward. (Actually I find it hard to keep cash on hand, so we keep a running log of the bank of mom on the white board, and they cash in when they want extra online purchases. I also keep an envelope of cash so the kids can go to the nearby store for treats, no work required.)
ragekritz
I could earn money, but I had to do things like, pull all the weeds around the house or something that'd be excessive, they'd also get upset if my friends came over at all without me asking for more chores to do before they came over. This just stopped people from visiting. I like your system more.
just4thelolz
Interesting. In Germany we have that, but for road construction workers instead.
TinyOctopus
That's funny. Because in the US, if there aren't at least three people supervising, then obviously nothing is getting done.
thedudeman519
Need 6 people standing around to maintain the image of something getting done. It's silliness
LeeeB
Or DB.... Uggghhhhhhh
jesuisgur
Woah, germans must be pissed when they go on vacation in Italy then...
mercyPandaRunner
I was once immediately scolded by the boss, because i was standing behind the bar counter and put a hand in an pocket and leaned against a wall. I wasn't even the bar tender. I worked in the brewery attached to it and was just up there for a second to check that the tap was drawing beer from down in our realm. There wasn't even a single customer. It was like 9 in the morning.
nachosyndicate
“ if you’ve got time to lean, you’ve got time to clean”.
mercyPandaRunner
I was doing something. That something included waiting a few seconds for the beer to come and to check that it was coming correctly. I wasn't even authorized to do anything else, like radomnly cleaning another guys working place. Like, what the hell is that dumb shit? Do you demand the heating specialist to clean your bathroom while he waits for the heater to get hot when he checks it?
tallyhoho
If you got time to lean..
nachosyndicate
I fucking hate that saying.
Pusheenicorn1992
This phrase makes me feel a deep, soul consuming rage.
electronicdurian287
basically same happened to me. I got scolded by a regional manager because I paused to collect my thoughts for literally one minute instead of going and facing the shelves. I'm a dog groomer. I don't work the sales floor or "face". It was 8 AM, the store wasn't even open to customers except grooming drop-offs. Everything was still clean from the night before. Does the mental disconnect from reality happen after people are promoted to management, or are they born like that?? ridiculous.
thedudeman519
Born that way and management positions attract them .
nachosyndicate
My sister and I worked the front desk of a hotel in the evening. We take turns sitting on the printer paper box when no one was looking. But we got in trouble went caught.