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magicrhombus
90 days of almost entirely peaceful protests, which police and federal agents have attempted to provoke into riots, unsuccessfully.
darkninja2992
After a week it'll look like a generic post apocalyptic city. Collapsed buildings and all
stabbedintheface
I just spent last weekend in Portland. Had a great tine
DaveSamsonite
Funny that the Trump administration would be lying about something.
HeywouldJablowme
But they're burning trash cans. TRASH CANS YO!
ninetenduh
Still doesn't make it right what BLM does, they are acting like Terrorists and Blackshirts, nothing else.
aTallIrishman
The denial is strong. So very strong.
Filanwizard
Honestly I think Eagles fans did more damage after SB52.
sadstory
Well Philly fans are pretty much the worst.
orrenfoster
I’m a native. The only people in danger in Portland are people of color being beaten by cops. Neo nazis too, but fuck those guys.
rogwizard
Outside influence causing problems ,a small area affected and a lot of graffiti and homeless.Thats downtown.
skewlbeta
If you want to know what's happening, read the Oregonian. It's the paper out there, and Portland is fine
Hammertulski
Add eek.com">com"">eek.com">wweek.com, katu.com and columbian.com if you want a full variety pack of local takes.
DerivativeWhy
You can watch live feeds of the major city protests on steaming sites. They are entirely peaceful. Re-skinning them is part of fascism. ?
DerivativeWhy
And when police claim there's a riot, it's typically them inciting violence, so media and politicians can destroy the purpose of the protest
oblimo
An acquaintance insisted that "tens of millions of people were looting and burning." Some have no conception of what that would look like.
alecdshope
Or any idea what the population of Portland is.
opermech
So you're been in 3 cities where riots have occurred, yes mr FBI this post right here
PixelSprite64
CorwinMacGregor
"Art!" lost it right there.
Avaunt247
why are folks playing history in the comments? Yes 400 yrs ago shit burned easier. You gotta find new ways to fit the times.
alecdshope
Los Angeles isn't 400 years ago "history." I was alive and living here for two of those three periods of civil unrest.
neverpostsoriginalcontent
YES. Portlander here. Get countless questions from my conservative friends elsewhere who think Portland is in shambles. It's not.
PoliticalWanderer
Meanwhile, at Fox News:
Rengii
Also no systemic racism in law enforcement!!!
Rahava
"But if there is it's not wide spread and if its wide spread there's nothing that can be done anyway" - every rightwing pundit on any issue
NZSheeps
"It's just a few bad apples"
discofroman
Cries in kenosha, Antifa actually fucked up our town hard, All the mom and pop businesses downtown are gone due to fires.
discofroman
And it did not take 90 days. It literally took 1 night.
hurrdurr69
"antifa"
EvilDeadTed
Liar.
LampLighterN7
Flat out lies
discofroman
Yes..Because all the pictures we have posted to facebook and the local news stations are all photoshopped.
LampLighterN7
How many businesses were destroyed and how many are still standing? Those pictures don’t show percentages.
UnitedGalactic
Source or shut the fuck up.
discofroman
Ignorance is bliss my dude. If you had half a brain you'd figure it out.
Deviantone365
Source your rebuttal or shut the fuck up
natebitatibetan
Also, if you're President when this happens you can't say it's the opposing candidate's America...
Mityguy
I'm just saying. In Richmond there's a section on downtown made of cobblestone. All the bricks are pulled out and windows near by smashed.
Mityguy
I say all.. it's a little much but it's an obvious amount
definewhatyouare
Live in downtown Portland.... It's nothing.
SpartanC185
Same, it's really quite amazing how easy it is to fool Trumptards.
definewhatyouare
It's what made them Trumptards to begin with!
codeblue4me4
Shooting unarmed people is not ok. Burning and looting someone's business is not ok. Both need to stop
Qualtagh
What if burning and looting are the only way to convince people to stop the shooting? And please understand, peaceful approaches were tried.
EvilDeadTed
The burning and looting are largely not happening. Fox news is lying to you.
therealswanson
I lived in Belfast for a few years, these are not 'riots', where are the fire engines hosing down people? Where are the city blocks burning
PoundSandREMF
LA riots were nasty...
brownribbon
Those things are in 1964.
gordy77
What's happening on Portland and why?
ThailandExpress
Antifa protester in Portland (colorized), Why ask Trump
gordy77
Great episode
Hammertulski
Nightly peaceful protests, at which a few bad actors are taking the opportunity to cause problems. Also 600-car Trump convoys cause why not.
PoliticalWanderer
*Trump car convoys that harass (as in, pepper spray) people on a nightly basis and drive into protestors. But when one of theirs got shot,
PoliticalWanderer
suddenly all the right wing new sites start going off about left-wing violence.
Hammertulski
For a crowd that’s been gassed, sprayed, beat and thrown in unmarked vans, ridiculed on a national stage, they’re terribly nonviolent.
iusedtodream
FYI, it's not pepper spray, they're fkg bear macing us from their cars. Jerks.
PoliticalWanderer
1) Portland has been a big center for BLM protests, and Trump tried to target it for Gestapo-like crackdown tactics, with shit like police
PoliticalWanderer
2) driving up in unmarked cars, snatching people off the streets, and driving off without identifying themselves. That only made protesting
PoliticalWanderer
3) much more popular, so eventually they backed off. However, Oregon and Washington state are also home to large outright White Supremacist
PoliticalWanderer
4) and Neo-Nazi organizations, and they have moved right int to fight with BLM protestors and every liberal group around. The other day a
PoliticalWanderer
5) member of a far-right Patriot Prayer group, (one of those groups that wants to make the US a white/Christian nation and kill all the gays
uptojohns12
The propaganda being shown on fox right now is truly terrifying
ColoneISanders
Right now? Fox news has always been propaganda
gurlsnuggler
That’s saying something considering the general level of indoctrination.
chuckles11
I get the feeling the past 10 years fox has been prepping their audience for what’s about to happen over the next few months
gurlsnuggler
The Russians coming to assist in the liberation of the US but it goes horribly wrong for trump? No. They don’t even know about it yet.
insomniac24x7
Troop3r
Source?
insomniac24x7
https://youtu.be/tmaKl0Zm2c4
TheDudeElDuderino
Clearly an interesting convo but WTF with that cursor.
Troop3r
Source?
insomniac24x7
https://youtu.be/tmaKl0Zm2c4
certainlynotaserialkiller
its also sometimes from other countries, last week they showed footage from spain.
Makingmecreatethisaccounttobrowsesoyoucangenerateadrevenueisbu
got a source? not doubting, just curious
vonkeswick
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/janelytvynenko/rnc-protest-video-barcelona also absurd that they're a constantly like "this is what >
Makingmecreatethisaccounttobrowsesoyoucangenerateadrevenueisbu
thanks bro.
vonkeswick
life will be like in Biden's America" and they eat it up ignoring that this is what's CURRENTLY happening in Trump's America
CrypticalEnvelopement
Putting a horseshit spin on a story is one thing but literally outright lying and using false images is reprehensible and disgusting
certainlynotaserialkiller
is this your first day on fox news? its litteraly their whole "shtick"
CrypticalEnvelopement
They've been known to be partisan hacks for years, absolutely, but straight up deceitful nonsense if fairly new for them
certainlynotaserialkiller
its really not. they admidded in court that they are a entertainment channel, not a news channel and dont have to tell the truth.
CrypticalEnvelopement
Gotta keep up with Trump's rhetoric and stay in his good graces though
probationaryperiod
Ok, to all 22 and counting who downvoted this: please, please, just for 3 nights- watch or listen to pretty much ANY of the dozens 1/2
probationaryperiod
Of other news networks out there for a spell, with an open mind. I’m begging you.
probationaryperiod
NPR, BBC, CNN, The New York Times, .....
Appollin
Both CNN and fox are pushing their own altered agendas, seeing the difference between them gives a better picture of the real situation
ColoneISanders
ColoneISanders
*biases. AP, Reuters and NPR typically tend to be the best for straight fact reporting
NakedDannyDevito
Cants speak on the rest but CNN has done some pretty shifty shit
probationaryperiod
Sure, pretty much no perfect news out there- but Fox is not news. It’s not actually recognized as a “News org” by any reputable journalism1/
kagwapuhan
CNN and Fox are basically the same level of trash imho
Scotchonice
Fox News has Portland looking like Hiroshima but protesting is basically in a three-block area. Peacefully if the Proud Boys were gone
UnPoPuLaRoPiNiOndude
Right, burning trucks and throwing fireworks at cops is peaceful. They stream the "peaceful protests" every night. It's far from peaceful.
IconicM
Right wingers are going to the protests and shooting people. That's violence.
UnPoPuLaRoPiNiOndude
A right winger got shot last night, not by another right winger. And the kyle kid was attacked for trying to keep the peace.
skylined45
We dont know the identity or ideology of the shooter in Portland and just lol at claiming a 17yo who verifiably threatened ppl was peaceful
UnPoPuLaRoPiNiOndude
I dont understand how u can watch the video & deny self defense. If he wanted to murder he could have sprayed the crowd that was chasing him
5exyPanda
They said the same thing about the feds, they left and nothing changed.
dontrike
They went in and nothing changed.
yeeeeeet
Damn right, local PDs are perfectly capable of their own police brutality thank you very much
Giveemtheaxe
Well that's just flat out wrong. Once the feds backed off things deescalated for a time.
RobKnob91
Oh fuck off the proud boys are trash but don't act like the far left doesnt have its own violent elements too
UnitedGalactic
Sure do, leftists have died to make this country a better place because Right wing cowards murder them.
oblimo
You mean, like, Thomas Paine?
grundig79
"whutaboutism" "retort" "broad generalities" "concise factual reasoning" "weird slurry of buzzwords and bumper sticker slogans" [block]
Drewcifer70
You're not wrong
dontrike
Might want to look at which political side has more terrorism there, junior.
RobKnob91
Can we condemn all terrorism regardless of where it lands on the political spectrum, junior?
dontrike
Yes, we can, but one does it FAR more than the other.
oblimo
There are leftist militias. But being a militia is not their identity or their pastime. They don't mobilize for threat or show.
Scotchonice
Show me the leftist militia that is armed and with body armor coddled and in cahoots with the police or federales. No such thing.
oblimo
....leftist militia are not in cahoots with the police or federales. Quite the opposite.
Scotchonice
That was my point
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RobKnob91
I literally just called them trash you dumbass can you read? So quick to virtue signal on what another generation did you couldn't read?
PhantomPanis
I believe he said they were trash which implies he doesn’t care for them. Why are you associating him with nazi fuckheads?
RobKnob91
They associated me with them because anything that doesn't follow their narrative perfectly must be shut down immediately with cries of 1/
RobKnob91
Racism and tyranny. They have very little ground to stand on so its easier to just shut down people with false accusations even when 2/
Hammertulski
Trump-flag trucks were rolling convoy slowing down I-14 traffic on the way to cause trouble last night but they won’t report that shit.
RydWolf
Wasn't there something about a 100+ car convoy with blacked out licence plates entering Portland from out of state?
Hammertulski
I can’t speak to the plates, but Patriot Prayer’s leadership lives in Camas WA and I live on the way from Camas to where they met up.
Hammertulski
I routinely see their trucks, they aren’t subtle. WA plates, some LEM vanity plates.
Hammertulski
For reference - https://www.dol.wa.gov/vehicleregistration/splem.html
Hammertulski
These fucking cretins can’t go 5 minutes without intentionally fucking with other people and calling attention to themselves doing it.
analnipple666
Yeah and they call everyone else "snowflakes" ?
Hammertulski
As they worship a man who runs away when asked a softball question at every press conference. The disconnect is staggering.
analnipple666
Understatement of the decade. I'm in FL and around my neighborhood alone there are so many Trump lawn signs/flags. I don't wanna engage >
EyeYamSweetPotato
Have we seen any proud boys vs boogaloo Bois battle it out
UnitedGalactic
EvilDeadTed
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/boogaloo-boys-george-floyd-protests-black-lives-matter-1010117/
AngurProne
Goddammit I just started wearing hawaiian shirts a year ago bc I got tire of Tshirts and jeans. Now I could get lumped in w these goobers
EvilDeadTed
Why would they? All news reports of Boogaloo boys have been them being white supremacist agitators.
EyeYamSweetPotato
I agree they are a confused group, but they have been seen along side BLM. https://youtu.be/PWPdbRtrjbw
FriendlyNeighborhoodLoner
*most
paulwall117350
That's a good point I hadn't considered. Surely it must be mostly peaceful if the cities aren't literally burned to the ground by this point
TobySomething
I saw some map of the actual area where it was happening and it’s like 2 blocks in the middle of the city. The media always zooms in
TobySomething
I remember going to occupy Wall Street and being shocked it was one tiny little plaza. You would barely notice w/o the cops + cameras
MrLurkerMcGurker
Ya that's why Fox News had to use pics/videos from other nations to portray the riots
Jarjarthejedi
Don't forget the literal photoshop. :/
randomwalrus
While it has not been burned down, Portland has suffered some serious damage. The teargas has apparently begun to poison the ground water.
yeahiheardaboutpluto
Someone's poisoned the waterhole.
icefirekitsune
ah. like hongkong. fuck cpp...
randomwalrus
So, the damage done, has tended to come from the police.
BigPete0
Let's just say that the protestors aren't the ones cracking skulls and gassing whole neighborhoods..
Counterfit
omnipotentpasta
Portland should just be a crater by now
PrecogFrogOnALog
Portland should be a crater, but not because of protests...Portland just sucks that bad
UnitedGalactic
Trumptards like yourself are afraid of Portland because you are cowards.
PrecogFrogOnALog
I don't support trump and I'm not afraid of portland. I work there.
gaaaaalavant
Thanks for wishing that me, my family, and all my friends were dead.
Lachwen
TheSwedishMoose
420supercoolusername69
Live in Portland. Can confirm.
armco
That a man was just murdered walking down the street?.....in Portland.
Hammertulski
Are you confusing the story out of Alabama today with the one from last night?
armco
Nope. You are aware of this right?
WetMacaroniSounds
I just took the Max down Thursday morning. Other than the general lack of people by the food trucks, it is still just Portland.
BigPete0
Ditto. All the "rioting" takes place in about a 3 block stretch around the courthouses, where no one lives and few businesses are located.
biscuitsngravybelly
Just ate downtown in portland today. Other than a little more graffiti than usual, it was still the same crazies talking to themselves
Hammertulski
I hope, based on your username, that you’ve tried Kingsland’s biscuits and gravy. I get the full English, their breakfast is my current fav.
biscuitsngravybelly
I'm not a Portland native, I was just passing through. Never heard of it, but now I will have to try it! Thanks!
Sugarblossom22
I live near Seattle, and same. So many in-laws telling me how bad Fox News’ version of “chaz” was...
PixelSprite64
This is what PPB calls a riot
Dendrofiili
This and the occasional murder.
PixelSprite64
Surprisingly, they don't declare those as riots.
gaaaaalavant
Same. I live in SE, about 4 miles from downtown. It's surreal hearing about Portland on the news, because it has had 0 effect on my life.
BigPete0
Yup. Belmont. Samsies.
aap71
i live with my wife and dog only minutes away in Beaverton. It's not a war zone at all. It's nice here. Visit and see for yourself. really.
kutison
Good plan, bring us more people to eat. muhaha!
OBM1
a or b?
kumaclimber
Howdy neighbor
Hammertulski
Howdy neighbor!
420supercoolusername69
Hello to you both!
Wherethefackaretheirchins
I've had lunch in Portland several times in the past weeks. It's been lovely everytime.
PonySlaystation5
Look at Paris after they lost the Champions League. Or Paris during G8-Summit. Or Paris after an election. Or just Paris Mo-Fr. & weekends.
MisguidedKraken
Same
IWasGoingToMakeEspresso
Chicago here. Some buildings have been busted out twice in the past 2 months.
TeddyDaBear
My drive through the protest area 1 month ago: https://youtu.be/pDoK8wCoxxs
Taxicat
Live in Seattle, can confirm the same regarding CHAZ. It was basically a very lively farmer’s market.
SatansLeftNipple
Four shootings and two murders in a week is what you consider “lively”?
Taxicat
Four shootings and two murders in that entire DISTRICT? That’s pretty normal in that area, actually.
SatansLeftNipple
No, just inside the CHOP from what I understand.
Taxicat
I fucking live in Seattle. Those murders didn’t happen inside CHAZ. CHAZ was barely two city blocks in size.
jvillPuppyCat
So it's not that bad? Genuinely asking cause all I see is portland going to shit on the media.
EveryGOPAccusationIsActuallyAnAdmission
We were there last weekend. People were eating outdoors at restaurants 2 blocks away. No issues
UnitedGalactic
News needs Drama for clicks.
neverpostsoriginalcontent
Another Portlander here. Can confirm the others.
Ninjainslippers
It's gotten kind of bad since right wing groups started showing up with guns and mace. Even so it's like 4 square blocks.
theDevilsWaffles
Inside the Portland Metro area all we talk about is the police brutality. Outside of Oregon it’s all sensationalized
BigPete0
Totally fine. Now ask yourself, who would benefit from making you think that the most liberal city in the US is a burning hell hole, hmm..?
gaaaaalavant
Everything you've seen on the news happens in about a 3 block area downtown. 99.9% of the city is totally normal.
jvillPuppyCat
That's crazy, this is the first time I'm hearing people saying it's not that bad. That's good to know though
AndBingoWasHisName0
It’s almost as if somebody has an agenda to portray the situation as more dire than it really is. For political benefit, perhaps?
Heffe3737
It’s like the wildfires in CA. People think all of Cali is on fire, and in truth not many people are even impacted. It just makes headlines
rowingrowingrowing
While not all of CA may be burning, here in CO, we have been packed in with smoke from CA and our wildfires and stuck inside for three weeks
needtwoknow
As someone who has been breathing smoke for three straight weeks in gonna have to disagree with you on that.
rowingrowingrowing
This. Good Christ, we have been stuck inside on Colorado's front range for 3 weeks due to the smoke from CA and Western CO. Fucking horrid.
Heffe3737
Fair enough. But surely you agree that actual structure fires don’t impact that many Californians, comparatively speaking?
needtwoknow
Sure. Tell that to the town of Paradise. Or what's left of it. Or an entire neighborhood of Santa Rosa.
RandyMagnumLocalEmmyWinningCameraManand4thRankedProKitesurfer
Last year an entire city burnt to the ground...or was that 2 years ago? It does affect a lot of people. Smoke travels across the western US/
ThailandExpress
tequilamockingbirb
Wait a minute....but but but trump said the city was in a post apocalyptic state!!!
Hammertulski
This is fucking solid gold.
BigPete0
I wish I could show this to literally everyone.
CeterumCenseo
Oh boy, that Microsoft store doesn't have windows!?
z0MgIrt3hSt0N3CRv5h3rFr0mt3x4S
I see what you did there.
EveryGOPAccusationIsActuallyAnAdmission
We did an oregon trip last week. Specifically drove by the fed courthouse at night to see. Surprise! Totally fine
420supercoolusername69
Wherethefackaretheirchins
Same! Husband and I were curious after having lunch so we drove through the area of the protests. Nobody! It looked normal.
becauseurwrong
I think ppl start gathering to protest after work hours and at night. But it looking normal is still a sign the city stands, yeah.
Wherethefackaretheirchins
True. They do gather around 6 or 7. But we were really curious about damage. There was just a tad more graffiti and even that was in process
Wherethefackaretheirchins
of being cleaned.
Hammertulski
The number of Imgurians telling me “what’s really going on in Portland” when I can see fucking PDX’s control tower from my deck is too high.
hardlycharlie
Explain please I'm lost, is this good or bad.
Hammertulski
It’s an observance on how many remote people feel they have a better idea of what’s happening in the metro area I’ve lived in for 24 years.
Hammertulski
Or watching Trump rattle on about how the “city is lost” when I’m driving to pick up breakfast from Kingsland. Gaslighting propagandist.
becauseurwrong
A good news article like 2 months ago said to only take the word of local media like the Oregonian on the protests.
Hammertulski
oregonlive.com has t">e oc">occas">">e occas">he occasional bias. Throw in katu.com, wweek.com, columbian.com for a decent mix of viewpoints.
Hammertulski
That gives you the “alt”, the Sinclair mouthpiece and a suburban usually middle-stance paper.
storrs2718
I really appreciate hearing this, moving there next week for work for a year. All I hear is the bad.
BigPete0
It's a beautiful city full of caring, generous people. Just remember its pronounced the *Will-am-it* River, and you'll do fine ?
420supercoolusername69
DAMMIT WILLAMETTE
BigPete0
That's right!
kumaclimber
It's 4 blocks downtown, Portland is a big place and it's absolutely lovely
Hammertulski
You’ll get here and go “huh it seems normal” and then go find some awesome food and maybe catch some live music.
UnitedGalactic
It's can be horribly rainy a lot but the city itself is great.
BigPete0
We get fewer inches of rain annually than many major cities (New York, Atlanta, Nashville...), we just get 160 days of it...
420supercoolusername69
It’s bullshit. You’ll enjoy life here
kutison
Unless you're dumb enough to tell people you're from California.
420supercoolusername69
I moved from California and the only people who given me shit (if they do) are also transplants!
notkvothethebloodless
My dad's TERRIFIED to come visit me cause he might have to drive through Portland. I was there Thursday, still just Portland.
shepahrdjhon
Is it like the show Portlandia? What do people there think of the show?
toptrojanfan
Isn't still just Portland reason enough to be scared to drive through there?
CAAFlo
As someone who despises city driving in any and all cities, yes.
Hammertulski
Local here, I picked up my $5k guitar from a repair shop and walked around with it and didn’t get mugged, set on fire, or shot. It’s fine.
UnitedGalactic
But did you rock?!
Hammertulski
Fuck yeah I did, and have continued to do so all weekend. Solemn duty.
Mando4Ever
Don't fear Portland, fear Trumpland!
Hammertulski
I fear for the small businesses and gig workers who’ve been out of work while Covid relief stalls and Trump encourages mask shunning.
Hammertulski
So basically Trumpland, where every step forward is met with another kick right in the balls.
eswindy
Live downtown, like 4 blocks from the justice center, honestly you wouldn’t know other than that damned helicopter and occasional fireworks
Tyhawk309
Coming late September for a bachelor party. Im ready for a party
notkvothethebloodless
(1)It's funny to cause he brings up the portland 'riots' he sees on the news all the time and how scared he is. Then ill ask him about the
notkvothethebloodless
(2) proud boy rallies at Lansing, (they live in michigan) and he gets all butt hurt defending them cause 'there was only a few of them and
notkvothethebloodless
(3) that's not even what that protest was really about'