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#ukraine #ukraine_conflict #russia
Feb 27, 2022 8:02 PM
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#ukraine #ukraine_conflict #russia
combingthedesert
There’s a real chance that Putin is the richest person in the world. He has an unreal amount of wealth that can’t be easily attributed.
sj2890
yep
TheAlviss
Its what its always been; a despotic oligarchy.
HeywouldJablowme
*trillionaires
NikiBKittenLord
Thank you. I say this shit all the time. People really don't know what pure communism is.
Evilpercy
Richest person in the world on a civil servants salary.
NathanielHammond
it was always an authoritarian dictatorship. Be it feudal, pretending to be communist, or pretending to be a modern conservative democracy
IxnayOnTheOttenRay
THE world's richest billionaire
BethGaGaShaggyAReligionNotACult
You forgot kleptocratic and Putin's wealth is ENTIRELY STOLEN. 200$B US apparently.
Hextator
Drives me nuts when people say stupid shit like "but if you Google, it says they're communist". Okay? I can say random words too, big deal
Grinch01
Its end was offical 1991 so thats 31years but okay
RedVinez42
Thank you!
thinkstopthink
Heroes of the Republican Party:
Threewisemen
eh......it's authoritarian. Calling it capitalist as big of a stretch as calling it communist. Maybe capitalist at a very local level.
onlyhalfghost
capitalism is not a lack of authoritarianism. Hell, a lot of the big boy capitalists (i.e. people with actual capital) want fascists
channelranger
I mean really even when they were "communist" it was a lot less "everything belong to everyone" and more "Everything belong to Stalin"
hjf2011
communist means "everything belong to the state" and stalin, much like putin an louis xiv, thought they're the state.
TheAlviss
Under Lenin it was as purely communist as it would ever be. Unfortunately that dude died.
sleepinggreenidea
If we want to split hairs, probably best to use pre-split hairs and call it "state capitalism".
Galti
But how will I use Putin's actions to bash 'The left'?!?
InappropriateAndIncorrectHashTagsPlusDragRacingFacts
Good news: Appealing to MAGAts by bashing the left can done with no consistency, logic, truth, decency or morals.
stanimal31
No one is bashing the left on this site, lol
nam8y
40 years? Reeeeaaaaallly?
mandy009
lol everyone in here arguing usual hot takes & meanwhile they overlook most obvious oversight - an entire decade. Were '80s a joke to them?
weidermeijer
I’ll give them +/- 10, because in my mind the Berlin Wall was about 20 years ago.
BaconAlmighty
@OP 30 years
djzapz
They started shifting around 1987-1988 under Gorbachev, so yeah 30-34 years or so. The "perestroika" is an interesting reading topic!
MarshallDaemon
Exactly. Closer to 30.
Magjee
Prior to the collapse of the USSR there were changes under Gorbachev, but sure 3+ decades is still accurate
Zixtank
So is America
CyclopticColleague
*Kleptocracy; *30 years
Crazycoke1994
Pseudo dictatorship. Putin has either poisoned and killed every running opponent for his seat in office... or arrested them after they lived
ThisIsSteel
It was never really communist, it was just ran poorly buy a political party with Communist in the name. But ye.
PorkBarrelTrollitics
the last 6 words of the sign should say " the biggest thief of all time"
michaelfire
US is an oligarchy too-report https://www.businessinsider.com/major-study-finds-that-the-us-is-an-oligarchy-2014-4
malkavian3str
Who's redoing pretty much als the SU mistakes.
malkavian3str
Without any of it's strengths.
ExplainsTheReasoningBehindHowHeVotes
upvoted for knowing the way. If under communism everything is shared, that would include political power. Communism is a direct democracy.
ExplainsTheReasoningBehindHowHeVotes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_democracy
CMCbeachguy
It's a oligarchical corporatocracy ... Just like we are in the USA.
buzkilljoy
the US is a Kleptocratic Plutocracy
Asteroidrules
It's a fascist kleptocracy.
CMCbeachguy
toe-may-toe, toe-mah-toe
Asteroidrules
Not really, fascism is explicitly anticapitalist.
Asteroidrules
Both fascism and communism consider capitalism a front for a Jewish conspiracy to destroy the world, they also think the other is in on it.
CaptKlaws
Who claims they're communist? Poor way of playing your anti-capitalist agenda.
LokJok
Alot of US Republicans who are are trying to defend Putin's actions. Sen Tommy Tuberville for one.
onlyhalfghost
I see lots of people talking shit about "drag the commie bastards through the streets" like it's still fucking 1956
beastlysunismyname
nothing new on imgur
buzkilljoy
no country has ever been communist
Hextator
yikes @ the fucking replies to this
Mahnahn
Communism never works because some cunt always thinks they're better and is willing to sacrifice their brothers for personal gain
theyar
No true Scotsman.
FiveHeadedSnakeGod
Cuba is a communist country that exists today.
buzkilljoy
nope. totalitarian
dismas101
What about Vietnam and Laos?
OneHundredPercentIce
They are states that have classes and use money, all three of which mean they're not communist
AnonKneeMoose
Just like Cuba the remained fairly autocratic, without being full ‘boot-on-neck’ in leadership
ShardHarter
americans think they know more about communism than the people who created and lived in those systems
buzkilljoy
really? which country is a communist country?
ShardHarter
cuba, vietnam, laos, previously the whole ussr inc most of eastern europe, many african countries like angola etc
buzkilljoy
nope. most of those are autocratic military dictatorships. communism has never actually been pulled off. ever
CompletelyUniqueUsername
Nice no true scottsman bro.
OrionTheHunter11
And no country has ever been a true democracy impossible to rule whole populations w/o sheety people ending up on top
buzkilljoy
yep. true story. The US is a Kleptocratic Plutocracy. That's why it's failing
Youhavinagiraffe
Might I suggest anarchism?
ahorseelbowdeepinme
No thanks, some regulated care for the people is better than no care at all.
Youhavinagiraffe
It's worth looking up what Anarchism actually is rather than just assuming the colloquial definition. It's direct democracy without...
Youhavinagiraffe
...corruptible formal institutions like police and parliaments and those roles taken up by sortition and/or informal collectives
ahorseelbowdeepinme
Dictionary.com disagrees: an·ar·chy
/ˈanərkē/
noun
a state of disorder due to absence or nonrecognition of authority.
Einer
It was. That's what communism look like. How would you feel if someone would walk around saying no country was really nazi?
FiveHeadedSnakeGod
It started socialist and became autocratic. It was never communist.
buzkilljoy
nope. "nazi" was just a political party in Germany which was, at the time, a autocratic military dictatorship
Einer
That's short for national socialism. But if someone would walk around saying it's good and that just wasn't it that would be madness.
Tumescentpie
Sure. And the nazis would never lie about their goals. You seemed to have failed basic high school history or social studies classes.
Einer
They would, just like communists did. Their utopia idea was one big lie (and still is).
Wolfshead009
Correct. Every country which has claimed to be has ended up being a dictatorship of some nature.
Magjee
I think they mean the USSR and China etc were actual systems of State Capitalism
76000BatteryLlamas
We're all equal in this country, but some of us are more equal
MisuseOfLiterally
animal farm?
ShardHarter
because communists cant be dictators lol god give me strength
porcubot
Sorry man, but the workers in Russia do not own the means of production. That's literally qualification numero uno
Goryofa
I mean, it's in the word. Communist is a reference to a community run state. You don't even have to read the whole book.
ECxLFC
No state.
donorkort
This is also why communism is and always was a fever dream. A dictator will always rise, the temptation is too great for mankind.
Beepity
Plus it's only like two dozen pages anyway
ShardHarter
Or better yet, go to the places that existed under community dictatorships and see for yourself.
Goryofa
Sure. But the statement "that's not communism" is still accurate. If you have stare that goes bad, but is community run, that's a mark (1/2)