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This is an unnecessary danger. If your baby chokes or gags they may not be able to move the bottle away from their mouth. Also, it causes the milk to pool in the back of their throat which can back up into their ears. That will cause ear infections which can lead to deafness. Wait until your child is able to sit up on their own and hold the bottle easily. Take 10min to connect with your child and insure they are eating safely. :)
ediblepain
This is why I prefer to eat my offspring.
Shakakel
You obviously know nothing of babies.
ICanHasJava
Holy shit, people actually do that? Why wouldn't you just feed your goddamn baby? Don't have kids if you don't want them, people!
dumbintact
I knew a girl who would prop a bottle into her newborn's mouth so she could have a cigarette break. I hated her so much.
GravyHavok
Not sure how ear infections are connected to the back of the throat
NewWorldMan
Youre probably against duct taping the bottle in place too aren't you!
ItsTime4it
Or dont use big holes in the nipple
Bobicus5
Huh
Gunslinger8912
Ensure*
AnewdownvoteandNOeveryday
About to be a dad... PANIC
HazyKitten
Just be there for her. Let Mom have naps and time away. It's hard to take care of others when you neglect yourself.
AnewdownvoteandNOeveryday
Cheers all. Mum's good as. Due march. Still time to prepare. Loving life and can't freaken wait. Having a Boy. So many adventures await us.
fiveftninja
Im 29l8 with 4 kids . I dont understand why people have to try shit like this. Having kids isnt even that hard .
fiveftninja
Im 28 not 2918.
dontfollowmeimlosttoo
I don't know why you are being downvoted.. I agree, also babies need to connect and they need to be nursed. Why would one leave a baby to
dontfollowmeimlosttoo
Feed alone..
Ammontal
The "baby" is holding the bottle. The ball just makes it easier for them.
JennaTools
Yes, obviously. But that baby is really young to be feeding alone. Not too mention many ppl prop bottle feed their kids b/c they are 1/2
JennaTools
"Busy". This just encourages that. The practice is, again, an unnecessary danger. 2/2
Ammontal
Develop motor skills a bit wouldn't it?
Ammontal
? I don't get the busy thing but I wouldn't leave my child like that, and I couldn't tell you how old that one is but I think it would help.
JennaTools
A very young baby and just walk away. 2/2
JennaTools
There are many ways to help build motor skills that aren't a risk like this is. You'd be surprised how many ppl will prop a bottle for 1/2
itsPixie
Don't have these issues when you just feed em with your boobs.
JennaTools
But not everyone can breastfeed for multiple reasons. I wasn't able to breastfeed.
itsPixie
I know, it's just nice to not have these issues.
HazyKitten
Exactly. I hate the guilt that I feel when people say this. Some people just aren't able to.
itsPixie
It's not intentional. I've had women tell me they thing BF is disgusting so they chose not to. Weird, but I think holes are gross so idk
HazyKitten
LOL. Tru dat.
finn423
Source? Evidence?
julgran
My kid choked on formula when he was 9 months. It went up to his eyes and then he cried white. Scared the fuck out of me. He's fine tho
TheRompingRaccoon
There is none everyone who had a kid is suddenly an expert. I just bought a car and didn't magically become a mechanic
HazyKitten
Many good parents spend a hell of a lot of time researching everything about childcare and talking to their Dr.
HazyKitten
I did. I don't consider myself an expert but just looking at that jimmy rigged contraption, my common sense tells me, "fuck that shit."
NeverRubAnotherMansRhubarb
Common sense
GreaterDog
Threats aside, you're better off holding the bottle for the baby before 6 mo. Majority of kids don't have the motor skills to do it ①
GreaterDog
themselves, and trying to get them to do it at a younger age is unneeded when you should be making sure they're getting properly fed. ②
GreaterDog
(It's hella tough to pull fluid through that nipple, if you've ever tried... I have) ③
FullyDysfunctional
American Association of Pediatricians (link to follow)
FullyDysfunctional
https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/baby/feeding-nutrition/Pages/Practical-Bottle-Feeding-Tips.aspx
claerwyn
http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/858990-overview#a3 causes of otitis media (middle ear infection) in environment subheading
fuglio
Put a boob in that boys mouth like God intended.
filthyoldmanwhore
What if it is gods will to keep people using these and wants to hurt these kids? 1/
filthyoldmanwhore
"God plans everything". I loose my nerves everytime someone uses phrase "like god intented".
bandashee
I tried but he was in NICU for low blood sugar. I was able to pump for about a month before I dried up. He was too used to bottles (1/2)
bandashee
From round the clock feedings to make sure he didn't go into seizure state. I wanted to but it wasn't going to happen.
revcleo
That sounds very tiring
bandashee
it was. 14-15 infant blood sugar is when they go into seizure state. they found his at 16. i didn't sleep for the first 3 months from fear.
revcleo
Semi-related, out of curiosity, did you put much weight on during the low sleep period? Also hope all is good now!
whatissofunny
I know im being overly sensitive but sometimes not possible. I had emergency surgery on breast and could not breast feed which super sucks
TheGammaRae
Had to give up at three months. I work 60 hours a week on average, couldn't find time to pump enough. I feel super guilty.
whatissofunny
Now that hes eating some solids i try to make up for my own guilt by feeding him homemade baby food. But yeah the guilt is still there.
GodEmperorOfImgur
It should have said "If possible, put a boob in that boys mouth, if not, carry on as best you can." Or some such.
ladyinwonderland
Thanks. I couldn't breast feed either, and I also get overly sensitive about it.
whatissofunny
Im glad im not alone :)
patrickgpking
Any actual stats or even anecdotes to back this up? I'm generally skeptical of parental advice
DoctorDrowsy
Probably heard it on some blogging site, or cousins daughter got an ear infection and through no clear logic this was deemed the cause.
FeoraFarscaping
as it is difficult to swallow in that position (try it for yourself).
FeoraFarscaping
you shouldn't have a baby in the first place. Plus, you should never bottle feed a baby when it's flat on it's back,
claerwyn
As a junior doc, happy to verify leaving your kid on its back with a milk bottle will ruin their ears. Willing to link to good ear resource.
claerwyn
Reputable doctor speak source : http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/858990-overview#a3
patrickgpking
Thank you. It does strike me as more of a criticism of feeding when on back than the grip thing generally, but the connection isn't tenuous.
claerwyn
No problems :) always happy to actually provide genuine and useful references.
CountableAttendants
I wish there were even more people like you...
AnneFranklyMyDearIDontGiveADamn
Yes. There are a number of studies that find an association between laying down and middle ear disease (sources in replies)
AnneFranklyMyDearIDontGiveADamn
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7776069
AnneFranklyMyDearIDontGiveADamn
http://www.scielo.br/pdf/jped/v82n2/en_v82n2a03.pdf
AnneFranklyMyDearIDontGiveADamn
http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaotolaryngology/article-abstract/598958
suavemammerjammer
Babies have died from this: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15296253/
FullyDysfunctional
I don't think people realize this. Newborns, especially, can aspirate or suffocate EXTREMELY easily.
ApocalypsePonies
The ear infections part is true, but hearing loss caused by infections/fluid in the middle ear space goes away if treated properly
TowerOfPow3r
Tell that to my tinnitus.
Solaralyn
Not true at least for me. I had bad ear infections and tubes as a child and i have so much scarring im missing a whole range of hearing
garion222
Yeah tell that to someone who had dozens of ear infections. Treatment does nothing. But make sure to speak up
ApocalypsePonies
I went to grad school for audiology so yes, I know, all the kids I saw for multiple ear infections I felt bad for, but it did work for many
FeoraFarscaping
as it is difficult to swallow in that position (try it for yourself).
isitsupposedtodothat
Me too. Everyone insists that everything kills children but I still see a bunch of 'em running around...
SexualViolence
The ones running are dying but just slower.
PanicAtTheCostco
Yeah, right? I mean plenty of kids made it through those golden years of extremely cool and unsafe toys. Like my parents
Steelflameblade
Its more a matter of "Do you want to be the poor sob who's baby died to a 1/10000 chance you could have prevented easily?"
isitsupposedtodothat
Thinking like that you are not going to get through one day without dying of stress. Which obviously is the case for many parents.
patrickgpking
Obviously not, but I'm still giving piggybacks to my nephew despite such very low risks.
FeoraFarscaping
Mom of two here. NEVER EVER have a baby hold it's own bottle, don't anything like this. If you are too lazy do hold the baby and the bottle
serpentinebaboo
Again, stats? Anecdotes. "Mom of two" is not what we're looking for. Jenny McCarthy is a mom.
FeoraFarscaping
OK, no anecdotes,we never did that. Stats? probably there won't be any 'cause not many parents do this with that particular apparatus.
HazyKitten
Just the lazy ones who can't even hold a bottle for their newborn for five minutes. Why come up with these "redneck" solutions?
HazyKitten
Hold the damn bottle and bond with your kid.
FeoraFarscaping
Like you said, they're lazy.
patrickgpking
Thank you, but there isn't even an anecdote here. I could generously assume you've witnessed choking but all I know is your a mom and caps.
FeoraFarscaping
*you're.
patrickgpking
Thank you
patrickgpking
Of course there was more to respond to than the typo.
FeoraFarscaping
oh no, that was the single thing to respond to.