Jan 10, 2021 12:24 AM
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Mr21782Man
Some of the dumbest people I know have a degree. You can also be smart without having a degree
EmanonInverse
Jokes on you, I have neither!
Rrrrrrrrright
sooooooooo fuckin true
FatboyRich
You can have a lot of money, and still be dumb as fuck. Welcome to the real world
DidyouknowLlamasaresmelly
Absolutely true! A wise old man told me they were educated fools.
dgkandrewdober
I am intelligent, but a bit under educated. Therefor I can understand complex concepts and ideas much easier than I can convey them.
pudaheh
On the other hand, I and everyone I work with has a PhD or MSC. It's *super* nice to be surrounded by brilliant people at work.
pizzapartyhard
I hate when people use this thinking to justify their lack of faith in education.
OptimusPom
I work I.T. and have served Doctors. They can be just as stupid as any other idiot when it comes to simply pushing a power button.
Willum
You can also be smart as hell, but nearly unteachable.
ShireOfFrodo
Isn't that called, "narcissism?"
ItsHardToBeatboxOnADigeridoo
Just because you received and education also does not mean you are educated. Idiot can get through college without absorbing anything
carlosgraciano4
You can be book-smart and be life-stupid .
Youhavinagiraffe
But NOT being "book-smart" in no way makes it more likely that you are "life-smart"
c35000
People without degrees love to say this
stvhunt132
True but some people thinking having a degree means nothing and that's not true either. There is an intelligence needed to succeed.
trapperjohnmd
What’s worse is because of the degree they actually believe they are not an idiot.
wiggadewah
Yes
Schylerwalker
The ability to speak does not make you intelligent. Now get out of here.
TatersWhatsTatersPrecious
Ben Carson and his pyramids of grain
jamsplodge
Hell yeah it's true. I have two and have no common sense whatsoever.
Rediix
Charlie Kirk
death4665
If you ever worked in retail you'll understand
ChucKTheCanadian
Yeah, I mean trump had a university so...
WehWehWeh
I have a degree and I’m the stupidest person I’ve met.
deafmute
If your the smartest in the room, you are probably in the wrong room.
guyanesebro420
Well I'm happy to introduce myself and take that title from you. You're welcome to be assistant to the stupidest person though.
strawberryabbey
The dean of fucking science at a well regarded private college in my town thinks Trump will be remembered well and supports him.
melangemaster42
Likewise with money and intelligence.
HappinessIsaColdPint
Okay okay jeez, the post was enough I didn't have to be attacked in the comments too.
Rockafella83
Well to me, there's common sense, knowledge and intelligence. Let's just say the first one is a mix of the sec/third + a lot of life factors
msftensoc365
E.g. trump is rich but a moron
RoxannaTroy
Or talking very loudly and often with intelligence
MacallanNeat
And fame and intelligence
NotABadLookingNarcissist
My older brother was just arguing with me about how co-ops wont work because the ceos are the ones who bring all the brains to the table
ZorkManZeroX
And money with effort
Imakethingsweird
And money with money
FritztheChef
Or experience with intelligence. Or intelligence with other intelligence! Damn, intelligence!
TheGhostofLionelHutz
That's prosperity gospel blasphemy right there. lol
When you're rich they think you really know. -Tevye
swellguy18
Yup. I am paid well but still don't understand the association of cash with intelligence. The metrics for success are complex. You first >
must ask what values you measure for success. Is cash one of them? To some extent. To most. But speaking personally, if you make 80k or >
more in America, you have more than enough if you're not greedy. What values make you happy after? I'm just saying pursue happiness I guess.
If money makes you happy, be greedy. If not, go for it man. If it's love, travel, drugs, sex. Doesn't matter. Be happy and do no harm.
Helloimnewintown
Money and worth*
relsky
While this is absolutely true, there are many, many more stupid uneducated people than there are stupid educated people.
The difference: smart uneducated ppl teach themselves. If you can read, you can learn. If a degree is all you learn, you're not that smart.
yournamechecksout
Local libraries have way more information than most people would even think. From quantum mechanics, to lawmaking, to poetry of the 1500’s.
Absolutely. My formal education is limited. My self education has been lifelong. Libraries, books, & internet played a big part.
Flexiblewarmth
Exercising the mind helps. In periods when I've been studying at night after work my mind is much sharper.
LoneBoot
I've noticed that the former are often enamored with this statement. And at least the latter are presumably putting in some effort.
DefinitelyNotCrazy
Yup. The greatest lessons college taught me were that I don't know everything and question every fact/source. High school doesn't do that.
kittyskittles
As a high school English teacher this is my number one priority and I try to nail it home every single chance I get
GerhardVonScharnhorst
For real, propagating this stupid quote is how you get entitled uneducated idiots who refuse to trust scientists and medical experts
leodavinci1
My lifelong experience has taught me that you and relsky are both wrong.
Entitled uneducated idiots are that way because they are typically religious fundamentalists that place faith over facts.
hhggg3000
I run into this problem with engineers telling me how to do my job on a regular basis. It’s infuriating.
DemonDuJour
I told an engineer we needed metric vice grips when working on a British-made machine. The 3rd tool vendor he called clued him in.
Nice, I appreciate your sense of humour.
Lulabel73
Engineers are a weird bunch though. I don’t know what they teach them in school but they all seem to come out with an attitude.
Landstander101
They don't teach them yours or their job. They learn physics, analytical problem solving and what not. Yes they a ignorant of the job, but
They can quantify and analyze any problem to solve or improve it. The issue is that companies miss use this skill.
It’s not the skill it’s the attitude. They’re part of a team which sometimes is forgotten.
Well I am one of those. Maybe the attitude comes from people treating you like you are an idiot because you have degree.
eadanke
Engineering degrees have a really high attrition rate. They are used to thinking of most people as failures who are dangerous to work with.
Voojagig
I also hate when people confuse education with YouTube.
JustAPileOfCats
Crash Course is invaluable.
tomatoboy
Or Google. Or Wikipedia.
fbutt09
Wait a minute. Are you saying that in depth explanation of the world being flat is somehow misleading
StrongholdSlayerSexDungeon
Youtube University? Ive heard they got a lot of professors over there.
cattlegrazer82
Or conclusion-shopping
hattiesburglar
Hey, I’ve learned a lot about working on cars and motorcycles from YouTube. Way more than I learned in my automotive program.
dingofdong
Don't you know? There's a whole university on YouTube, it's called PragerU and it's definitely not just thinly-veiled corporate propaganda +
+ prettied up with some fancy motion graphics, peddling a regressive Christian/conservative set of nonsense-values
RememberTheC4nt
You can educate yourself with youtube. I don't mean like expert lvl stuff or since stuff. But programming languages, languages, history usw.
That's a form of education.
ipFreak
The reverse is true too. I have known some poorly educated intelligent people
alexizdaniela09
Dat me
comnakr
I have two degrees and no monies
fuckyeahmerica
I had a University professor that was a genius IQ, she could do crazy math, but she had velcro shoes because she couldn't tie shoelaces.
UKMonkey
They are however, generally rare as most intelligent people want to learn.
copingcabana
I know a lot of intelligent people without a college degree.
It's almost like having the means to cultivate an interest in and pay for schooling doesn't actually have anything to do with your aptitude
ThisFireGrowsHigher
Really? I only know people who think they're smart. Getting the degree helped me see they are full of shit.
There are plenty of both kinds of people out there if you look far enough, but often like attracts like. Maybe try to branch out?
HUGHgReaction
I have worked in IT with people having no school and little experience, they ended up surpassing me and moved onto bigger places. Brilliant
Education is important but Imgur browsing is importanter
Covidnineteen
Many of the world's greatest minds are lost to poverty
GnomeDeGuerre
To poverty and lack of recognition and early training.
astrobio87
This!
Crazy hey
Lepercake
You can also be an idiot and not have a degree. I happen to know. First hand.
There there, friend.
chucklemore
meripanda
I went to middle and high school with a kid that always bragged about his high IQ but never did his homework. He eventually dropped out.
There are many of those.
quzar
Was he, to your reckoning, actually intelligent? Every person I've ever met to brag this way was never more than 'capable'.
To be honest, I avoided him. You could not hold a conversation with him without him talking about his IQ.
SoniqueTui
Being told you're smart/have talent can kill any motivation to actually practice skills or do tedious work... In my experience. :|
[deleted]
I never knew my IQ til way later, but was repeatedly told how talented I was in art/math, so figured I didn't need to work... I was wrong.
Being smart was great, I didn't have to put work into doing well at school... until suddenly I did, and I had to crash-learn an entire +
+ lifetime's worth of study skills and it sparked a major depressive episode :P
Very same. Episode continues to this day. It's been 22 years. I am a worthless potato.
Mr21782Man
Some of the dumbest people I know have a degree. You can also be smart without having a degree
EmanonInverse
Jokes on you, I have neither!
Rrrrrrrrright
sooooooooo fuckin true
FatboyRich
You can have a lot of money, and still be dumb as fuck. Welcome to the real world
DidyouknowLlamasaresmelly
Absolutely true! A wise old man told me they were educated fools.
dgkandrewdober
I am intelligent, but a bit under educated. Therefor I can understand complex concepts and ideas much easier than I can convey them.
pudaheh
On the other hand, I and everyone I work with has a PhD or MSC. It's *super* nice to be surrounded by brilliant people at work.
pizzapartyhard
I hate when people use this thinking to justify their lack of faith in education.
OptimusPom
I work I.T. and have served Doctors. They can be just as stupid as any other idiot when it comes to simply pushing a power button.
Willum
You can also be smart as hell, but nearly unteachable.
ShireOfFrodo
Isn't that called, "narcissism?"
ItsHardToBeatboxOnADigeridoo
Just because you received and education also does not mean you are educated. Idiot can get through college without absorbing anything
carlosgraciano4
You can be book-smart and be life-stupid .
Youhavinagiraffe
But NOT being "book-smart" in no way makes it more likely that you are "life-smart"
c35000
People without degrees love to say this
stvhunt132
True but some people thinking having a degree means nothing and that's not true either. There is an intelligence needed to succeed.
trapperjohnmd
What’s worse is because of the degree they actually believe they are not an idiot.
wiggadewah
Yes
Schylerwalker
The ability to speak does not make you intelligent. Now get out of here.
TatersWhatsTatersPrecious
Ben Carson and his pyramids of grain
jamsplodge
Hell yeah it's true. I have two and have no common sense whatsoever.
Rediix
Charlie Kirk
death4665
If you ever worked in retail you'll understand
ChucKTheCanadian
Yeah, I mean trump had a university so...
WehWehWeh
I have a degree and I’m the stupidest person I’ve met.
deafmute
If your the smartest in the room, you are probably in the wrong room.
guyanesebro420
Well I'm happy to introduce myself and take that title from you. You're welcome to be assistant to the stupidest person though.
strawberryabbey
The dean of fucking science at a well regarded private college in my town thinks Trump will be remembered well and supports him.
melangemaster42
Likewise with money and intelligence.
HappinessIsaColdPint
Okay okay jeez, the post was enough I didn't have to be attacked in the comments too.
Rockafella83
Well to me, there's common sense, knowledge and intelligence. Let's just say the first one is a mix of the sec/third + a lot of life factors
msftensoc365
E.g. trump is rich but a moron
RoxannaTroy
Or talking very loudly and often with intelligence
MacallanNeat
And fame and intelligence
NotABadLookingNarcissist
My older brother was just arguing with me about how co-ops wont work because the ceos are the ones who bring all the brains to the table
ZorkManZeroX
And money with effort
Imakethingsweird
And money with money
FritztheChef
Or experience with intelligence. Or intelligence with other intelligence! Damn, intelligence!
TheGhostofLionelHutz
That's prosperity gospel blasphemy right there. lol
DidyouknowLlamasaresmelly
When you're rich they think you really know. -Tevye
swellguy18
Yup. I am paid well but still don't understand the association of cash with intelligence. The metrics for success are complex. You first >
swellguy18
must ask what values you measure for success. Is cash one of them? To some extent. To most. But speaking personally, if you make 80k or >
swellguy18
more in America, you have more than enough if you're not greedy. What values make you happy after? I'm just saying pursue happiness I guess.
swellguy18
If money makes you happy, be greedy. If not, go for it man. If it's love, travel, drugs, sex. Doesn't matter. Be happy and do no harm.
Helloimnewintown
Money and worth*
relsky
While this is absolutely true, there are many, many more stupid uneducated people than there are stupid educated people.
ShireOfFrodo
The difference: smart uneducated ppl teach themselves. If you can read, you can learn. If a degree is all you learn, you're not that smart.
yournamechecksout
Local libraries have way more information than most people would even think. From quantum mechanics, to lawmaking, to poetry of the 1500’s.
ShireOfFrodo
Absolutely. My formal education is limited. My self education has been lifelong. Libraries, books, & internet played a big part.
Flexiblewarmth
Exercising the mind helps. In periods when I've been studying at night after work my mind is much sharper.
LoneBoot
I've noticed that the former are often enamored with this statement. And at least the latter are presumably putting in some effort.
DefinitelyNotCrazy
Yup. The greatest lessons college taught me were that I don't know everything and question every fact/source. High school doesn't do that.
kittyskittles
As a high school English teacher this is my number one priority and I try to nail it home every single chance I get
GerhardVonScharnhorst
For real, propagating this stupid quote is how you get entitled uneducated idiots who refuse to trust scientists and medical experts
leodavinci1
My lifelong experience has taught me that you and relsky are both wrong.
leodavinci1
Entitled uneducated idiots are that way because they are typically religious fundamentalists that place faith over facts.
hhggg3000
I run into this problem with engineers telling me how to do my job on a regular basis. It’s infuriating.
DemonDuJour
I told an engineer we needed metric vice grips when working on a British-made machine. The 3rd tool vendor he called clued him in.
hhggg3000
Nice, I appreciate your sense of humour.
Lulabel73
Engineers are a weird bunch though. I don’t know what they teach them in school but they all seem to come out with an attitude.
Landstander101
They don't teach them yours or their job. They learn physics, analytical problem solving and what not. Yes they a ignorant of the job, but
Landstander101
They can quantify and analyze any problem to solve or improve it. The issue is that companies miss use this skill.
Lulabel73
It’s not the skill it’s the attitude. They’re part of a team which sometimes is forgotten.
Landstander101
Well I am one of those. Maybe the attitude comes from people treating you like you are an idiot because you have degree.
eadanke
Engineering degrees have a really high attrition rate. They are used to thinking of most people as failures who are dangerous to work with.
Voojagig
I also hate when people confuse education with YouTube.
JustAPileOfCats
Crash Course is invaluable.
tomatoboy
Or Google. Or Wikipedia.
fbutt09
Wait a minute. Are you saying that in depth explanation of the world being flat is somehow misleading
StrongholdSlayerSexDungeon
Youtube University? Ive heard they got a lot of professors over there.
cattlegrazer82
Or conclusion-shopping
hattiesburglar
Hey, I’ve learned a lot about working on cars and motorcycles from YouTube. Way more than I learned in my automotive program.
dingofdong
Don't you know? There's a whole university on YouTube, it's called PragerU and it's definitely not just thinly-veiled corporate propaganda +
dingofdong
+ prettied up with some fancy motion graphics, peddling a regressive Christian/conservative set of nonsense-values
RememberTheC4nt
You can educate yourself with youtube. I don't mean like expert lvl stuff or since stuff. But programming languages, languages, history usw.
RememberTheC4nt
That's a form of education.
ipFreak
The reverse is true too. I have known some poorly educated intelligent people
alexizdaniela09
Dat me
comnakr
I have two degrees and no monies
fuckyeahmerica
I had a University professor that was a genius IQ, she could do crazy math, but she had velcro shoes because she couldn't tie shoelaces.
UKMonkey
They are however, generally rare as most intelligent people want to learn.
copingcabana
I know a lot of intelligent people without a college degree.
dingofdong
It's almost like having the means to cultivate an interest in and pay for schooling doesn't actually have anything to do with your aptitude
ThisFireGrowsHigher
Really? I only know people who think they're smart. Getting the degree helped me see they are full of shit.
dingofdong
There are plenty of both kinds of people out there if you look far enough, but often like attracts like. Maybe try to branch out?
HUGHgReaction
I have worked in IT with people having no school and little experience, they ended up surpassing me and moved onto bigger places. Brilliant
fbutt09
Education is important but Imgur browsing is importanter
Covidnineteen
Many of the world's greatest minds are lost to poverty
GnomeDeGuerre
To poverty and lack of recognition and early training.
astrobio87
This!
HUGHgReaction
Crazy hey
Lepercake
You can also be an idiot and not have a degree. I happen to know. First hand.
fbutt09
There there, friend.
chucklemore
meripanda
I went to middle and high school with a kid that always bragged about his high IQ but never did his homework. He eventually dropped out.
GnomeDeGuerre
There are many of those.
quzar
Was he, to your reckoning, actually intelligent? Every person I've ever met to brag this way was never more than 'capable'.
meripanda
To be honest, I avoided him. You could not hold a conversation with him without him talking about his IQ.
SoniqueTui
Being told you're smart/have talent can kill any motivation to actually practice skills or do tedious work... In my experience. :|
[deleted]
[deleted]
SoniqueTui
I never knew my IQ til way later, but was repeatedly told how talented I was in art/math, so figured I didn't need to work... I was wrong.
dingofdong
Being smart was great, I didn't have to put work into doing well at school... until suddenly I did, and I had to crash-learn an entire +
dingofdong
+ lifetime's worth of study skills and it sparked a major depressive episode :P
SoniqueTui
Very same. Episode continues to this day. It's been 22 years. I am a worthless potato.