Sep 13, 2020 3:55 PM
PrincessRachell
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Forgotmyoldaccountbutohwell
Disarm and defund the police.
SpiderTrike2000
So if this was the UK they would be investigated by IOPC, do the Americans not have such a thing? If I was them I'd want to clear my name..
Ac1dBurn72
I'm actually quite glad noone has considered vigilante justice, but I feel like we aren't far off from seeing it.
MightestGlowCloud
By Hamilton I thought we meant Lin-manuel Miranda, I was confused because that's not him and we were hating on the guy. I had a dumb moment.
Jakenbake49
Don't shoot at police (or the person standing next to you not shoot at police) and you should be fine.
Crixy
Hamilton , the F1 diva who always craves for attention.
Blze001
He's also the best driver in the sport, so....
He has the best car , not the best driver he is. Rosberg was evidence , that Hamilton is not the best.
BobTheTalkingSkull
Then why doesn't bottas lead him in points?
gis4gif
Taxonomyanomaly
Hamilton faces an endless uphill climb He has something to prove he has nothing to lose Hamilton's pace is relentless He wastes no time Time
stabbedintheface
Who is this person
76Tromboners
toolarchy5
sadly the piece of garbage mayor and police department will never charge them. fischer was on thin ice before, hes definitely out after this
megavolts
Sadly it may not be a lack of will, but reporting from the NYT shows that it will be very difficult under current KY law. Maybe it's time 1/
to amend the law 2/ Source: https://nyti.ms/2RAHD6d
StinySmuggler
FWIW I think they already changed it in the area, with national laws in the works.
AlexjoneswatchingTporn
You cant charge by law they did everything right you need to charge the ex boyfriend who lied about her storing drugs that got the warrent
SexyAttackHelicopter
hankison emptied his magazine firing blinding into breonna’s home. bullets ricocheted into neighboring homes. He needs to go to prison.
scorpio1976
Cops are so nervous...they only want to go home at the end of their shift
cptcr
yes
whoever downvoted this should be prosecuted
KurtHamster
I love the Daily from NYT, they got two great audio pieces last week about the chronology leading to her death: https://nyti.ms/2RAHD6d
azulgojira
Amazing podcast!
I grew up on the other side of the Atlantic, the more I've been here (7+ y), the more I am impressed and saddened at the same time.
Zynthasius
Came here to post this. The whole thing is actually very complicated. Great 2 part podcast about it.
OBM1
Agreed, please listen to the pod casts FIRST, then think about what to post.
YouCanCallMeCal
Lewis Hamilton is the GOAT when it comes to fast cars and using stardom for positive change
Kazgen
How about pass Rand Paul's bill to prevent no-knock warrants; the first domino that tipped in this case.
robotnixon13
Lewis Hamilton, a man with phenomenal skill who is unafraid of pissing off sponsors. How can you not like him?
weasel1902
How is he pissing off sponsors with a message calling for justice?
AndyGlastonbury
Because they pay millions to have their logos on his overalls. He wins the race stands on the podium and doesn’t show their logos.
This
giveittomestraightlikeapearcidermadefrom100percentpears
He's by some metrics, the highest paid sports person in the world. Once someone reaches that height, they can say whatever they want.
DavidBrooker
Hamilton is in an enviable position of being very hard to replace. So you can speak your mind.
BSwann
He's a tax dodger environmentally kind of a hypocrite. I don't really care about racing so on a balance he tips to kinda shitty
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
As a driver he is one of the best. As person a turd.
StrokeTheFurryWall
I wouldn't go that far. Stick him in the Williams car and see how he goes.
jusmuuu
Idk something to do with the hypocrisy?
opi098514
No, why the cops? Arrest the idiots who gave the order. They followed their training. You don’t sue a cook for making food that makes 1/
You sick, you sue the restaurant that gives the instructions to make the food.
TheCyclingEngineer
This cunt forces his dog to be vegan.
Misterhairyman
Arrest the punk who snuck up on last night and shot 2 LA deputies.
OldElectronicsGuy
How is this even related?
And will that change if you find out the deputies were commiting crimes? Or do you believe murder is bad regardless of who does it?
kirklazarusixi
What does that have to do with this?
With the constant anti police propaganda you enrage people to do this when apparently 'ACAB'
DrewSmith0
Sure, arrest all of them.
melmboundanddown
Ha, you'd almost think he was American.
secondcityguitars
Murray disapproves...
chairmanPao
He still reading those romance novels?
MrRangoon
Hay bob
Sstargamer
So that's why Bob wasnt in peace talks. Busy on the internet
Allthegoodnamesweretakenbeckygod
Hiya bob!
MollyTheWinterLady
Good to see you growin a conscience there, bud!
nickoftime90
Polka Will Never Die
ventiseii
As the Winter Lady you should know Bob has no conscience and adapts to his owner’s demeanor.
OI! Just because you're right, doesn't mean you're correct!
reverendunk
As a side note, *does* Molly know about Bob now that she's the Winter Lady? There'd been a gag order on her knowledge of Bob pre-Lady.
Already an all powerful fae so you'd think it's not an important secret anymore 2/2
Idk if she put together how Butters went all Dark Knight in Ghost Story. Pretty sure nother has been specifically said yet, but she is 1/2
DISCLAIMER: I've not read "Peace Talks" yet, so if possible, please avoid spoilers for that.
I’m up to date + short stories. Nothing yet in regards to that. Not sure if being used to foreshadow another fae getting Bob or her
taytothief
A millionaire Englishman living in Monte Carlo.
...so?
yellowtoothed
Funny, you never hear about any other driving living in Monaco. EVERY successful driver has lived there. Except Vettel
Tariq182
Wheres the problem in that? I'd prefer to live in monaco over UK. Just can't afford it.
anything to distract from the point of the shirt. Random person who hates someone rich and famous, likely his skin color plays a part.
Skin colour doesn't play a factor in being a tax dodging asshole.
How is it tax evasion? You are not obligated to pay income tax in the country of your birth if you don't live there.
zephyruk
No fan of his buuut, he's using his platform to promote this at the risk of losing his sponsors.
He's by some metrics the highest paid sports person in the world.. Dunno if theres any risk of Monster leaving his side anytime soon.
b1candy2
None of his sponsors have left him. He's been vocal about inclusion in motor sport for years
This today https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/54152046
I said "at the risk". He won a race and stepped up on the podium with this message on his shirt, not the logos he's paid to be wearing.
DeanOMiite
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ThailandExpress
somepersondoingsomethings
But it 1) wasnt his home & 2) is on the record not seeing who was there just shot a blind first shot.
i agree, not my tweet, but its a good tweet to fuck with the people who think he was justified but Breonna Taylors Boyfriend was not
Thismulfucka
LMAO- So you are at my place spending the night (armed) someone kicks in my door but you dont fire because your not @ YOUR home??? (Wankers)
You surely don't fire blindly even if it wasn't the police. You call out some warning, you evaluate the situation.
LOL... Ok! http://gph.is/1NfNMiv
Jarjarthejedi
No, no, no. Going to a protest with a weapon you are not legally allowed to have and picking fights so you could kill people is self defense
Protecting your property against plaincloth intruders who did not identify themselves with a weapon is a crime. That's how things work now!
/s, which shouldn't be needed, but some people man...
Lmao. You are so blinded by your bias and hate.
TIL truth is bias and hate, what a time to live in! /s
too bad he didnt obey Police&broke the law violating curfew.He wouldnt have 2 defend himself if he obeyed the law.That makes him a murderer
Mnmn78
Just to say the unpopular opinion. The cops were executing a valid warrant approved by a judge. They got shot at they shot back
The crime being acted on ahd the perp already caught. They failed to announce themselves, so literally anyone would think it was intruders
Rather than admit they fucked up, they killed an innocent woman while she slept, and offered her boyfriend a plea deal with 10 year jail
That shit is fucked up, whatever way you think 'they acted on a valid warrant'. Check the perp isn't already caught for one
She wasn't asleep and you realise you need evidence to prosecute right unless you think the police should be taken at their word.
PballQhead
Then the judge who approved the warrant, which we know had incorrect factual information in it, should face murder 2 charges.
WhT incorrect factual information?
I'm not going to do your homework, Google is your friend - but the person of interest had already been located. Failure of basic diligence.
The issue wasn't locatng the person. It was gathering evidence. They arrested the guy at the same time her house was supposed to be searched
Correct, which means they knew they had no reason for even a knock-announce warrant; sending a couple of plainclothes detectives out to >
They cops has good reason to think she was involved in the drug dealer business. How is this about race?
PersonalityFire
Because the entire fucking drug war has an enormous racial component. The entire warrant was bunk, these cops should be in prison.
These cops don't get a say in the drugs their job is to enforce it. The warrant was reasonable. Approved by. Judge. They had recording
Of the ex ( drug dealer) and he said she was holding money for him. He received packages at her address
I understand that what happened is a tragedy. And its natural to look for someone to blame. But its not race this time
3MsAndaJTL
I’ve struggled with this. So much so that the only way I could come to a conclusion was to picture it being my child, how would I feel?
My honest to God answer would be not that they deserved it, by any means- but when you lay down with drug dealers you might get caught up in
the gun fire that goes along w/them- whether it be from other drug dealers, or LE. It still rocks the soul, no matter the shooter.
It would have never been made political. That being said, no-knocks warrants should 1000% be eliminated, IMO, esp with the whatever it’s
hollanderpolder
Hamilton is a hypocrite narcist. Raced for over a decade and never ever spoke out. Collected millions and evaded taxes.
He did an extensive interview on Racism in 2007, he also did another in 2011
Tempcore
People seem to confuse living in a tax friendly country with evading taxes. One is a business move, the other is a crime...
YouMayFindThisMildlyInteresting
*Narcissist
enybi
Never ever spoke out? Hamilton has commented on racism throughout his career. Yes he's a tax evaders. That doesn't ban him opposing racism.
True, at McLaren he explained why he was being frequently punished by stewards with "because i'm black".. Nothing to do with the rules.
Load of bullshit. “Punished because being black” Lewis is a little rat on the track. That’s why is is punished, nothing to do with his color
I'd like to know more about that tax evasion claim
Iplacetinyflagsindogpoop
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-41886607
It's just something for racists to whatabout over.
So anyone who dares to question his royal highness Lewis, is a racist. Well,we found the real racist here....
tomaconnist
aNtI-RaCiSts aRe ThE rEaL rAcIsTs!
Michov
Smoel houwe loser
Goed argument. Maar dat gaan we niet doen. Nederland is een topland om in te wonen. BLM heeft hier geen zin.
raosion
Remember how they tried to implicate her in the drug operation after her death via a plea deal to justify killing her? Real classy.
VaultGirl69
This is America.
srsfaceI8C
I wish people wouldn't be okay with it if that was even true. Cops aren't supposed to kill guilty people either.
stevechams
I know, its bullshit that they shot back after the boyfriend shot at them
FourLegsGood
They do the "she was no angel" bullshit with everyone. Cops want to be judge jury and executioner.
The2020ElectionWasStolen
'they' was the prosecuting authority not the police
coleium
The police that killed her are part of the same system that aimed to tarnish her name.
AmachiHitsugi
"No need for paperwork. Just sprinkle some crack on him and let's get out of here." - Dave Chappelle
HeroOfKvatch1
Wouldn’t fucking matter even if it was true.
itsnotaraisin
Boom! And THAT is how it's done.
I mean spewing drug war sentiment ain’t gonna make the people protesting her death shut up, considering they’re the same people that 1/2
See the drug war for the racist farce it was.
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GullahGullahIslander
Fuck him with a rusty coathanger...red hot...real slow like. Hsssssssssssssssss
wadatahmydamie
Hey, that’s me! Appreciate you spreading the word for sure
RosencrantzNGuildensternNeverLived
Did it turn out that the drug dealer they were looking for wasn’t actually her ex BF? I missed that. (Not that it matters much)
CrustyMuffin
somanycatfacts
She was deeply implicated in the operation. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/30/us/breonna-taylor-police-killing.html
dingofdong
It. Doesn't. Matter. Cops. Aren't. Vigilante. Executioners.
Agree. and this wasn’t that either. Someone shot at them. Lots of mistakes leading up, but not an unreasonable use of force.
everdaynormalguy
You’re right it doesn’t matter. But trying to implicate her innocence is not being honest. Just be honest about the facts, on all sides.
Silnt39
Absolutely kills me that comments like this, based on fact with written evidence, gets downvoted. Ignorant fucks.
Doumdidoum
People downvote chocolate cakes so don't work yourself up.
Rofl true enough
wolfric99
Isn't there surveillance (+ phone conversations) that shows her still in contact with him and her place being used as a drug dropoff?
Exactly. That person is the opposite of right, opposite of factual.
Here is a link to the leaked court document.
https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/63943132/breonna-taylor-summary-redacted1
Not that I've seen but that would be impressive as hell since she's dead.
By context you should have been able to figure out that I meant at the time. They were under surveillance for a while before the incident
Well all I can find is her ex was the one under surveillance and at the time of the raid they were separated. >
Yes there is. New York Times did a podcast on the back story. Not saying that justified the cop who shot her, which is not clear yet.
TheGhostofElizabethShue
sorryfornocapitalssorryimsorry
“now run charlie! run all the way to facebook and post something ignorant!”
Rodrodington1
The irony is that judge Dredd actually has a worse crime problem than we do.
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
Not sure why you're bringing up Judge Dredd?
Do you not recognise the famous scene from Judge Dredd where young Charlie Dredd finds his judge ticket?
My bad. I didn't recognize him with his helmet off.
LeftistCoastalElite
Why should we feel srry for criminals who get shot by cops they live a thug life they get wats coming to them
JockoV
I get the strange feeling that everyone here is getting trolled by a Russian bot.
ThatKeffordGuy
Well if someone is holding a gun and a genuine threat to life then ok but just having a record by itself is no good reason at all! Wtf
Unintelligentcommentz
Silly russian bots, always making inflammatory comments
Just doing my job comrad
NuLycan
Having a criminal record doesn’t mean the cops have the right to- Oops, saw the username. I know not to engage
Because police can't fuck up and kill someone and then blame it on a past criminal record.
Because cops aren't supposed to kill guilty people, either. Why is that so hard to understand?
I guess ur right cops need to treat thugs with some dignity
Chronepsis
Humans at their worst are still human and no authority has any right to treat them as anything else
I’ll always remember that one glorious week of Kavanaugh’s confirmation when republicans staunchly believed in innocent until proven guilty.
mrmayortheiv
Name checks out, nice
CorrugatedUrethra1995
It's all about retroactively justifying that warrant. Who ever secured the warrant should face charges.
terribletruth
They'd have to investigate if the judge knew. The cops could have lied just to have a warrant. We already know they've lied before.
TheTimesTheyAreAChangin
That's step one.
StarscreamAndHutch
Do we know the Judges name that issues the warrant? We need to publicize that as well.
BearsDontCare
Why? What purpose is there in going after the judge? This just looks.like a pitchfork looking for a target
SJohnson23
Maybe if there’s consequences for saying “Sure boys, you go in the dead of night, I trust you without any checking”, change will happen.
There are no consequences because judges are not in charge of cops. The onus is entirely on those serving the warrant.
chicagochick
We need way more public transparency on Judges!
MrJimmyRustles
Mary Shaw was the judge and Joshua Jaynes was the cop that requested the warrant & signed the accompanying affidavits.
LurkerOfDarkness
Both of them needs to be arrested as well and put on trial for aiding and abetting premeditated murder.
Firstly, I agree, but also, WOW your user name makes be shudder.
kmikl
1995 was a pretty great year, to be fair.
RisingPhoenix92
I live in the sweet ignorance of not knowing that first word and I choose to continue living that way until such a time I forget all this
TheSexInstructor
cor·ru·gat·ed -- adjective(of a material, surface, or structure) shaped into alternate ridges and grooves.
HurrDurrImABurr
Thanks. I hate you.
darynu
i thought the warrant was for a totally different house though? which would make it double the fault of the officers. idk though
Nope misinformation the warrant was for her because her ex lied and said she was storing drugs
The address was correct. The reason for the warrant was shaky at best. Even more so for a no knock warrant. Basically she's dead for dating.
TacoXtreme
I believe the warrant was incorrect yes, but the officers went to the "correct address" because that's where the judge sent them. 1/2
The judge, Mary Shaw, should be removed from her bench and be put on trial. The cops went into that house thinking their was a 2/3
drug dealer. The cops actions were still completely wrong, but without Judge Shaw issuing a bad warrant this wouldn't have happenned. 3/3
BreakingBean
It was a warrant for a suspect whom was already in their custody iirc
KittenVonCatsworth
If memory serves, it was the right house but they were looking for someone who other LE had already confirmed wasn't there anymore.
ratfaceddog
And straight up lied about there being suspicious packages delivered there.
TheSmallTennisRaquetUsedToStunFlies
Man of the people... Living in monnoco. How about he pays his taxes to fund the schools for inner cities?
clem573
You have a point. Though, even if he pays less tax in percentage, he pays more than you and I together.
happyhumicorn
Yes and apply same logic to every corporation like amazon and apple that don’t pay legitimate taxes using off shore accounts, way more $$$
Rayxzerox
"When I was poor and complained about inequality they said I was bitter; now that I'm rich and I complain about inequality they say I'm 1/2
a hypocrite. I'm beginning to think they just don't want to talk about inequality." -Russell Brand
KingDucklingIV
Ok. That doesn’t change anything about the point he is making. Hope you’re not trying to derail the larger point with this
Famously he is from The Slums (Stevenage)... My friend sprayed his beer across the room when he heard this, he's from there too.
*He said this at Sports Personality of the Year.. Fucking hilarious. I laughed just then remembering him saying this.
the fuck does that have to do with those 3 cops being murderers?
MagnaMaxx
Hold up, he cant move the goal posts that fast
demosteness
Moonnnokcckoo*
MightyMouseTech
How do you know he doesn’t support them? https://www.looktothestars.org/celebrity/lewis-hamilton
Wow. The problem for non-white people in the UK (Hamilton is British), is inequality not the police. Schools need funding and opportunities
Maestr055
So, are you saying he's wrong?
SaintCody
Does he not pay taxes in monnoco either?
DarthVadersBigBluePenguin
Or people look at the now public jail calls...
nebuchadnezzarispooping
He is dodging taxes like catholic priests dodge rape charges
Cole2999
What the fuck does where he lives have to do with anything? Like, I don't like the dude, but what?
HoochIsCrazzy
push your MPs to close the loop holes that allows that to happen
How are MPs going to have any affect in a foreign country?
The implication is that since he is a British citizen he should be paying taxes on his income even though he is domiciled outside the (1/?)
UK. It is British law that says he doesn't have to pay UK taxes since he is not resident in UK. Make your MPs legislate world wide (1/?)
Taxation on UK citizens if you want non-resident citizens to pay UK taxes
I thought living in Monaco was basically the default for Formula One drivers? Regardless, dodging taxes - though kinda shitty - is not 1/2
I thought a lot of Americans say they won’t leave is because taxes are higher in other country. Is this not the same thing?
Maybe? More importantly, though, its not relevant. Breonna Taylor deserves justice, no matter what taxes Hamilton has or hasn't payed.
They spend 8 months of the year on the road, Monaco is right in the middle of Europe. It’s a no brainer, the tax is a bonus
HereDueToYourOnePeskyDownVote
It's either monaco or Switzerland
the same as killing a girl in her sleep for no reason with no repercussions, and it doesn't invalidate bringing attention to that. 2/2
(I don't know Hamilton's case. Was he accused of tax evasion [which is illegal] or tax avoidance [which is legal but a dick move]?)
justanotherimgurianbidenhistime
How about Monaco is a really nice place to live and maybe it wasn't about taxes at all?
Andtheworldwentwhite
It has the largest police force and police presence in the world on both a per-capita and per-area basis.
F1 drivers generally talk about its weather, nightlife (they're young guys after all), and proximity to European races. But also taxes. 1/2
SmugandFurry
How come when a not-white person who has some money makes a stand, the first response is, "Why don't you spend some of your money..."?
Orthy
Because he’s not a great dude and is doing it for publicity
It's alright but there a lot of competition from other EU cities, would not be my first choice but I'm not into designer life.
LaPazDeNixon
What publicity does he need? This is more likely to cost him surely?
Pardyfella
To what end?
And you know this, because...?
Jackpot. Hamilton has a hobby horse, something for him and his ego.
Skizzlesnap
Race has nothing to do with it. When any wealthy person “makes a stand” it’s truly symbolic because they have the means to make a difference
So, they either spend their money in a way you agree with, or they're not "genuine"? You some kinda Socialist, chum?
Nope just things like this.
RunanD
Yes. Yes I am.
Oh, well...carry on, then. No argument from me.
Hamilton also doesn’t have a Bull in the ring I appreciate his support but I hate him as a person.
AwesomeTeddybear
I dont know him as a person, but I like that he is standing up for these things
gorgeousninja
Is it really necessary to use words like hate? Isn’t that why the world is so fucked up? You don’t know him, you know his media image.
Shugashuga
It's not like racism doesn't exist outside the USA, and Hamilton didn't buy his way in to racing like many do. If you think race isn't 1/2
An obstacle for the only black formula 1 driver..... 2/2
youcattabekittenmerightmeow
That’s because he drives for Mercedes silly
Frostbreaker1
I see what you did there
driftaway8
I mean it's not helping but he's always been a whiny asshole.
SniperTeamTango
This is a formula 1 joke that Im guessing you missed or ignored lol.
Definitely missed, will self flagellate to atone for my lack of humor. Possibly will hand in my smartass badge as well.
AnathemaNoreh
I don't know who this is
Most famous racing driver in world but isn’t American, not that US is only fixated on themselves all the time
Arguably going down as best racing driver of all time too. Americans are like, who?
Counterfit
Beat all tile is still Schumacher to me. When has Hamilton dragged a shit car into contention?
KodiakRS
Lewis Hamilton. Driver currently dominating F1. Hated similar to the Yankees or Patriots. Speaks his mind about political/social stuff.
ColoneISanders
Same. My first reaction was "That doesn't look like Lin Manuel Miranda"
ZettoC
Saaaaame!
Current F1 champion, he has 6 championships in total and is on his way to win his 7th title.
I thought this was going to be about the musical when I clicked on it.
MERGATROYDER
One of the most privileged drivers to have ever lived.
thefeckamisigningupwithfacebook
You have to be privileged to drive in F1 now.
I think you have him confused with his former teammate Nico Rosberg
PhilippeFalloppe
That's the point. He can use his extreme privilege to speak up for people who have none
geraint616
Is it really privilege if what he power has came from his skill?
Kinda, yes, because driving really fast is a skill that doesn't really benefit anyone, just entertains. Unlike say being a brilliant doctor.
What's your definition of a brilliant doctor? Because I guarantee you world class doctors also make millions of dollars
jonlememe
Read the sacrifice of his father working 3 jobs raising him and a disabled brother may change your mind. His privilege was earned not given
Eloquentelephant565
Just like every other pro racecar driver.
DontcallmeIcallyou
This and all the other posts about his „pRiviLeGe“ are complete bullshit! fucking ignorant. He earned everything in racing
He also earned it. The hard way. And faces a tonne of low-key racism from sone folks who HATE seeing seeing a black British driver dominate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Hamilton#Racist_treatment
yourlocaleconomicsnerd
No. Just no. He got recognised as a prodigy at a young age. His parents were rich, but he isn't close to the most privileged driver ever
There has been actual nobility in formula one. Not to mention sons of former drivers
He lived in social housing, his Dad worked 3 jobs to pay for his karting. He is one of the poorest drivers to make F1 in last 25 years
I didn't know that. I knew his parents paid for his karting and just assumed he was rich from that. Thank you.
DarkRedCape
He’s also one of the best drivers to have ever lived.
That’s not even debatable. Stats are stats.
MoriMyKittens
I strongly disagree with this message
He's definitely top 5 all time, and I am not particularly a fan of his.
I welcome all views and opinions. You weren’t rude or disrespectful. Any reason why you disagree so strongly?
Dude can’t drive in traffic and has been blessed by a wonderful support staff. Mercedes built the car he just drives it.
27jh
How does he outpace Bottas so much then?...
shorey66
Yes he's had good cars. But to say he's not one of the quickest instinctual drivers is just moronic.
I guess you didn’t watch last weekends race then.
Imnotalwayscleverbutwheniamipreferbudlite
Yeah I watched him go from last to 7th in the end of the race. Regardless of the privilege he has at mercedes he's still the best driver rn
One of the best, but also one of the luckiest to have always been at one of the the top teams, either McLaren, or Mercedes
Well, why would you choose a bottom team if you want to win?
No, what I'm saying is that he was lucky enough to start at McLaren, in stead of another team, as is usually the case for the first season
Schumacher did it. Just sayin
That isn’t luck, he chose to move from McLaren to Mercedes, that was his choice, and it paid off.
I'm saying that he was lucky enough to start with a championship winning team in his first season McLaren.
whattheheckismyline
What? As in his upbringing?
Yes. Also he wins because Mercedes builds the best cars in formula 1
Teleriel
ever been to Stevenage?
Calaros
What? Almost every single F1 driver comes from a privileged background. Racing is a rich person's sport, always has been.
Hamilton comes from the worst background of any current driver. Next on the list are Räikkönen and Vettel
(2) Hamilton comes from one of the least privileged backgrounds on the grid, raw talent and his dad's hard work got him there.
Bullshit
fartsonturtles
So much hate. He's a driver at the top of his game. Yes he has a great car, but he's also a phenomenal driver. You seem so angry at him, odd
He was brought up in public housing man. He’s lucky with his car at the moment, but he still got more out of shit box McClarens than anyone
He had fast McLarens. Fragile, frequently, but still fast.
Are you insane? He EARNED that spot
deliciouspizza1
Can you explain why?
LeBaiton
He is an anti-vaxer who shared a judgemental video on his Insta about a corona vaccin and Bill Gates. Then he did a 180 when he got backlash
He turned his dog vegan! That shit is animal abuse
I mean, I have him as a racer for circumstantial reasons: he's one of the best, in the best car on the field. It's no competition, but it's
Hate*
not his fault Mercedes is so fucking fast
And then I also hate him for the fact that his teammate, Bottas, an INSANELY talented driver, is constantly outshined by Mercedes'
Preferential treatment.
Dude is the definition of hypocrisy and he’s a bit of a douche in real life.
ButterfaceTaintClown
you personally know him then?
he has a platform, and something important to him. he should use it. Whether or not you like him as a person probably doesn't matter to him.
Bigcurly2000
Not really an explanation...
CitizenPrime
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53559934 part of the explanation
FunkyFetusFeet
He seems like a genuinly great guy to me. What situations are you refering to? He seems Hubble. And could lose sponsors by speaking up
*humble.. damn auto correct
KroniK907
According to whom? All the F1 journos I've heard who have interacted with him say he's a lovely person. Yall hate him cause hes the best.
SylvesterMarcus
Name a leader in any sport that isn’t at least douche-adjacent.
Pigbear117
Sadio Mane
ChiefSokka
Connor McDavid seems pretty ok
michaelmp
I can’t
WorstShotEver
Messi is kind of un-douchy. He's a bit of a hermit tbh.
I wasn’t aware, I just got into f1. Links to any sources?
Malsbury
From the doco's I've seen he comes across as a stand-up guy. He's a fine person. Not much to hate.
dcwldct
Hamilton struggled with immaturity a lot early in career and still runs some people the wrong way. But Ive actually grown to really like him
KevorkianScarf
His history with his former teammate has set a red mark in a lot of fan’s ledger. He’s grown a lot since. He’s now a fairly sincere person
And like him or not, he’s proven himself one of the best drivers the sport has ever seen. It does get old see him win constantly though
He's not even American and he's a stinking rich knob but loves riding the poor oppressed black american train.
ohmeekrob
He’s Puerto Rican isn’t he? Which would make him American.
No. He's not Puerto Rican, not at all. Born in Stevenage, UK
What does him not being American have to do with anything? Only Americans have the right to be upset with what happened to Breonna Taylor?
He has lived in the US for about 7 years
He owns property in the US, but lives in Switzerland
I’ve been following F1 since about 2012 and I don’t think I’ve ever heard him even hint that he’s American.
Yes because BLM and oppressed blacks is a strictly american issue /s .. Wanker
Should he say nothing?
Bro, all the F1 drivers are filthy rich, including Schumacher. He legit gets way more hate than any other driver. Also the only black
Schumacher wasn't rich until he made it in F1. He father was a bricklayer
Hamilton wasn't either. His parents spent their life savings on his karting career AFAIK
Driver on the grid. I'm not saying it's all about race, but with how badly some people trash him, it has to at least be part of the equation
He has outperformed nearly every driver to have been in the sport. Yall think Schumacher is a God but can't stand seeing Ham be just as good
His only connection to America is banging a pussycat doll ffs
deliriousstormdrain
And his pretend accent
CellsReinvent
It's inevitable that your accent will change when you move to a new country and no longer hang around with anyone from "home"
...and living in Colorado for the last 7 years
As much as Americans have a right to protest whatever they want in the US, non Americans can slchoose from a plethora of better causes
But...but he’s Puerto Rican isn’t he? That would make him American.
... around the world to support, but nothing quite so popular for the 'ol insta account these days.
Afewflowers
Puerto Rico is a US protectorate. Why is hypocritical to give a shit about people poorer than yourself?
Lewis Hamilton is from the UK.
Sorry, I'm embarrassed, I thought you were hating on Lin Manuel and jumped all over it.
Forgotmyoldaccountbutohwell
Disarm and defund the police.
SpiderTrike2000
So if this was the UK they would be investigated by IOPC, do the Americans not have such a thing? If I was them I'd want to clear my name..
Ac1dBurn72
I'm actually quite glad noone has considered vigilante justice, but I feel like we aren't far off from seeing it.
MightestGlowCloud
By Hamilton I thought we meant Lin-manuel Miranda, I was confused because that's not him and we were hating on the guy. I had a dumb moment.
Jakenbake49
Don't shoot at police (or the person standing next to you not shoot at police) and you should be fine.
Crixy
Hamilton , the F1 diva who always craves for attention.
Blze001
He's also the best driver in the sport, so....
Crixy
He has the best car , not the best driver he is. Rosberg was evidence , that Hamilton is not the best.
BobTheTalkingSkull
Then why doesn't bottas lead him in points?
gis4gif
Taxonomyanomaly
Hamilton faces an endless uphill climb He has something to prove he has nothing to lose Hamilton's pace is relentless He wastes no time Time
stabbedintheface
Who is this person
76Tromboners
toolarchy5
sadly the piece of garbage mayor and police department will never charge them. fischer was on thin ice before, hes definitely out after this
megavolts
Sadly it may not be a lack of will, but reporting from the NYT shows that it will be very difficult under current KY law. Maybe it's time 1/
megavolts
to amend the law 2/ Source: https://nyti.ms/2RAHD6d
StinySmuggler
FWIW I think they already changed it in the area, with national laws in the works.
AlexjoneswatchingTporn
You cant charge by law they did everything right you need to charge the ex boyfriend who lied about her storing drugs that got the warrent
SexyAttackHelicopter
hankison emptied his magazine firing blinding into breonna’s home. bullets ricocheted into neighboring homes. He needs to go to prison.
scorpio1976
Cops are so nervous...they only want to go home at the end of their shift
cptcr
yes
SexyAttackHelicopter
whoever downvoted this should be prosecuted
KurtHamster
megavolts
I love the Daily from NYT, they got two great audio pieces last week about the chronology leading to her death: https://nyti.ms/2RAHD6d
azulgojira
Amazing podcast!
megavolts
I grew up on the other side of the Atlantic, the more I've been here (7+ y), the more I am impressed and saddened at the same time.
Zynthasius
Came here to post this. The whole thing is actually very complicated. Great 2 part podcast about it.
OBM1
Agreed, please listen to the pod casts FIRST, then think about what to post.
YouCanCallMeCal
Lewis Hamilton is the GOAT when it comes to fast cars and using stardom for positive change
Kazgen
How about pass Rand Paul's bill to prevent no-knock warrants; the first domino that tipped in this case.
robotnixon13
Lewis Hamilton, a man with phenomenal skill who is unafraid of pissing off sponsors. How can you not like him?
weasel1902
How is he pissing off sponsors with a message calling for justice?
AndyGlastonbury
Because they pay millions to have their logos on his overalls. He wins the race stands on the podium and doesn’t show their logos.
robotnixon13
This
giveittomestraightlikeapearcidermadefrom100percentpears
He's by some metrics, the highest paid sports person in the world. Once someone reaches that height, they can say whatever they want.
DavidBrooker
Hamilton is in an enviable position of being very hard to replace. So you can speak your mind.
BSwann
He's a tax dodger environmentally kind of a hypocrite. I don't really care about racing so on a balance he tips to kinda shitty
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
As a driver he is one of the best. As person a turd.
StrokeTheFurryWall
I wouldn't go that far. Stick him in the Williams car and see how he goes.
jusmuuu
Idk something to do with the hypocrisy?
opi098514
No, why the cops? Arrest the idiots who gave the order. They followed their training. You don’t sue a cook for making food that makes 1/
opi098514
You sick, you sue the restaurant that gives the instructions to make the food.
TheCyclingEngineer
This cunt forces his dog to be vegan.
Misterhairyman
Arrest the punk who snuck up on last night and shot 2 LA deputies.
OldElectronicsGuy
How is this even related?
cptcr
And will that change if you find out the deputies were commiting crimes? Or do you believe murder is bad regardless of who does it?
kirklazarusixi
What does that have to do with this?
BSwann
With the constant anti police propaganda you enrage people to do this when apparently 'ACAB'
DrewSmith0
Sure, arrest all of them.
melmboundanddown
Ha, you'd almost think he was American.
BobTheTalkingSkull
secondcityguitars
Murray disapproves...
chairmanPao
He still reading those romance novels?
MrRangoon
Hay bob
BobTheTalkingSkull
Sstargamer
So that's why Bob wasnt in peace talks. Busy on the internet
Allthegoodnamesweretakenbeckygod
Hiya bob!
BobTheTalkingSkull
MollyTheWinterLady
Good to see you growin a conscience there, bud!
BobTheTalkingSkull
nickoftime90
Polka Will Never Die
BobTheTalkingSkull
ventiseii
As the Winter Lady you should know Bob has no conscience and adapts to his owner’s demeanor.
BobTheTalkingSkull
OI! Just because you're right, doesn't mean you're correct!
reverendunk
As a side note, *does* Molly know about Bob now that she's the Winter Lady? There'd been a gag order on her knowledge of Bob pre-Lady.
MollyTheWinterLady
Already an all powerful fae so you'd think it's not an important secret anymore 2/2
MollyTheWinterLady
Idk if she put together how Butters went all Dark Knight in Ghost Story. Pretty sure nother has been specifically said yet, but she is 1/2
reverendunk
DISCLAIMER: I've not read "Peace Talks" yet, so if possible, please avoid spoilers for that.
ventiseii
I’m up to date + short stories. Nothing yet in regards to that. Not sure if being used to foreshadow another fae getting Bob or her
taytothief
A millionaire Englishman living in Monte Carlo.
BobTheTalkingSkull
...so?
yellowtoothed
Funny, you never hear about any other driving living in Monaco. EVERY successful driver has lived there. Except Vettel
Tariq182
Wheres the problem in that? I'd prefer to live in monaco over UK. Just can't afford it.
cptcr
anything to distract from the point of the shirt. Random person who hates someone rich and famous, likely his skin color plays a part.
BSwann
Skin colour doesn't play a factor in being a tax dodging asshole.
Tariq182
How is it tax evasion? You are not obligated to pay income tax in the country of your birth if you don't live there.
zephyruk
No fan of his buuut, he's using his platform to promote this at the risk of losing his sponsors.
giveittomestraightlikeapearcidermadefrom100percentpears
He's by some metrics the highest paid sports person in the world.. Dunno if theres any risk of Monster leaving his side anytime soon.
b1candy2
None of his sponsors have left him. He's been vocal about inclusion in motor sport for years
zephyruk
This today https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/54152046
zephyruk
I said "at the risk". He won a race and stepped up on the podium with this message on his shirt, not the logos he's paid to be wearing.
DeanOMiite
ThailandExpress
somepersondoingsomethings
But it 1) wasnt his home & 2) is on the record not seeing who was there just shot a blind first shot.
ThailandExpress
i agree, not my tweet, but its a good tweet to fuck with the people who think he was justified but Breonna Taylors Boyfriend was not
Thismulfucka
LMAO- So you are at my place spending the night (armed) someone kicks in my door but you dont fire because your not @ YOUR home??? (Wankers)
somepersondoingsomethings
You surely don't fire blindly even if it wasn't the police. You call out some warning, you evaluate the situation.
Thismulfucka
LOL... Ok! http://gph.is/1NfNMiv
Jarjarthejedi
No, no, no. Going to a protest with a weapon you are not legally allowed to have and picking fights so you could kill people is self defense
Jarjarthejedi
Protecting your property against plaincloth intruders who did not identify themselves with a weapon is a crime. That's how things work now!
Jarjarthejedi
/s, which shouldn't be needed, but some people man...
somepersondoingsomethings
Lmao. You are so blinded by your bias and hate.
Jarjarthejedi
TIL truth is bias and hate, what a time to live in! /s
ThailandExpress
too bad he didnt obey Police&broke the law violating curfew.He wouldnt have 2 defend himself if he obeyed the law.That makes him a murderer
Mnmn78
Just to say the unpopular opinion. The cops were executing a valid warrant approved by a judge. They got shot at they shot back
b1candy2
The crime being acted on ahd the perp already caught. They failed to announce themselves, so literally anyone would think it was intruders
b1candy2
Rather than admit they fucked up, they killed an innocent woman while she slept, and offered her boyfriend a plea deal with 10 year jail
b1candy2
That shit is fucked up, whatever way you think 'they acted on a valid warrant'. Check the perp isn't already caught for one
BSwann
She wasn't asleep and you realise you need evidence to prosecute right unless you think the police should be taken at their word.
PballQhead
Then the judge who approved the warrant, which we know had incorrect factual information in it, should face murder 2 charges.
Mnmn78
WhT incorrect factual information?
PballQhead
I'm not going to do your homework, Google is your friend - but the person of interest had already been located. Failure of basic diligence.
Mnmn78
The issue wasn't locatng the person. It was gathering evidence. They arrested the guy at the same time her house was supposed to be searched
PballQhead
Correct, which means they knew they had no reason for even a knock-announce warrant; sending a couple of plainclothes detectives out to >
Mnmn78
They cops has good reason to think she was involved in the drug dealer business. How is this about race?
PersonalityFire
Because the entire fucking drug war has an enormous racial component. The entire warrant was bunk, these cops should be in prison.
Mnmn78
These cops don't get a say in the drugs their job is to enforce it. The warrant was reasonable. Approved by. Judge. They had recording
Mnmn78
Of the ex ( drug dealer) and he said she was holding money for him. He received packages at her address
Mnmn78
I understand that what happened is a tragedy. And its natural to look for someone to blame. But its not race this time
3MsAndaJTL
I’ve struggled with this. So much so that the only way I could come to a conclusion was to picture it being my child, how would I feel?
3MsAndaJTL
My honest to God answer would be not that they deserved it, by any means- but when you lay down with drug dealers you might get caught up in
3MsAndaJTL
the gun fire that goes along w/them- whether it be from other drug dealers, or LE. It still rocks the soul, no matter the shooter.
3MsAndaJTL
It would have never been made political. That being said, no-knocks warrants should 1000% be eliminated, IMO, esp with the whatever it’s
hollanderpolder
Hamilton is a hypocrite narcist. Raced for over a decade and never ever spoke out. Collected millions and evaded taxes.
yellowtoothed
He did an extensive interview on Racism in 2007, he also did another in 2011
Tempcore
People seem to confuse living in a tax friendly country with evading taxes. One is a business move, the other is a crime...
YouMayFindThisMildlyInteresting
*Narcissist
enybi
Never ever spoke out? Hamilton has commented on racism throughout his career. Yes he's a tax evaders. That doesn't ban him opposing racism.
giveittomestraightlikeapearcidermadefrom100percentpears
True, at McLaren he explained why he was being frequently punished by stewards with "because i'm black".. Nothing to do with the rules.
hollanderpolder
Load of bullshit. “Punished because being black” Lewis is a little rat on the track. That’s why is is punished, nothing to do with his color
weasel1902
I'd like to know more about that tax evasion claim
Iplacetinyflagsindogpoop
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-41886607
YouMayFindThisMildlyInteresting
It's just something for racists to whatabout over.
hollanderpolder
So anyone who dares to question his royal highness Lewis, is a racist. Well,we found the real racist here....
tomaconnist
aNtI-RaCiSts aRe ThE rEaL rAcIsTs!
Michov
Smoel houwe loser
hollanderpolder
Goed argument. Maar dat gaan we niet doen. Nederland is een topland om in te wonen. BLM heeft hier geen zin.
raosion
Remember how they tried to implicate her in the drug operation after her death via a plea deal to justify killing her? Real classy.
VaultGirl69
This is America.
srsfaceI8C
I wish people wouldn't be okay with it if that was even true. Cops aren't supposed to kill guilty people either.
stevechams
I know, its bullshit that they shot back after the boyfriend shot at them
FourLegsGood
They do the "she was no angel" bullshit with everyone. Cops want to be judge jury and executioner.
The2020ElectionWasStolen
'they' was the prosecuting authority not the police
coleium
The police that killed her are part of the same system that aimed to tarnish her name.
AmachiHitsugi
"No need for paperwork. Just sprinkle some crack on him and let's get out of here." - Dave Chappelle
HeroOfKvatch1
Wouldn’t fucking matter even if it was true.
itsnotaraisin
Boom! And THAT is how it's done.
HeroOfKvatch1
I mean spewing drug war sentiment ain’t gonna make the people protesting her death shut up, considering they’re the same people that 1/2
HeroOfKvatch1
See the drug war for the racist farce it was.
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GullahGullahIslander
Fuck him with a rusty coathanger...red hot...real slow like. Hsssssssssssssssss
wadatahmydamie
Hey, that’s me! Appreciate you spreading the word for sure
RosencrantzNGuildensternNeverLived
Did it turn out that the drug dealer they were looking for wasn’t actually her ex BF? I missed that. (Not that it matters much)
CrustyMuffin
somanycatfacts
She was deeply implicated in the operation. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/30/us/breonna-taylor-police-killing.html
dingofdong
It. Doesn't. Matter. Cops. Aren't. Vigilante. Executioners.
somanycatfacts
Agree. and this wasn’t that either. Someone shot at them. Lots of mistakes leading up, but not an unreasonable use of force.
everdaynormalguy
You’re right it doesn’t matter. But trying to implicate her innocence is not being honest. Just be honest about the facts, on all sides.
Silnt39
Absolutely kills me that comments like this, based on fact with written evidence, gets downvoted. Ignorant fucks.
Doumdidoum
People downvote chocolate cakes so don't work yourself up.
Silnt39
Rofl true enough
wolfric99
Isn't there surveillance (+ phone conversations) that shows her still in contact with him and her place being used as a drug dropoff?
somanycatfacts
Exactly. That person is the opposite of right, opposite of factual.
wolfric99
Here is a link to the leaked court document.
wolfric99
https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/63943132/breonna-taylor-summary-redacted1
Silnt39
Not that I've seen but that would be impressive as hell since she's dead.
wolfric99
By context you should have been able to figure out that I meant at the time. They were under surveillance for a while before the incident
Silnt39
Well all I can find is her ex was the one under surveillance and at the time of the raid they were separated. >
OBM1
Yes there is. New York Times did a podcast on the back story. Not saying that justified the cop who shot her, which is not clear yet.
TheGhostofElizabethShue
sorryfornocapitalssorryimsorry
“now run charlie! run all the way to facebook and post something ignorant!”
Rodrodington1
The irony is that judge Dredd actually has a worse crime problem than we do.
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
Not sure why you're bringing up Judge Dredd?
TheGhostofElizabethShue
Do you not recognise the famous scene from Judge Dredd where young Charlie Dredd finds his judge ticket?
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
My bad. I didn't recognize him with his helmet off.
LeftistCoastalElite
Why should we feel srry for criminals who get shot by cops they live a thug life they get wats coming to them
JockoV
I get the strange feeling that everyone here is getting trolled by a Russian bot.
ThatKeffordGuy
Well if someone is holding a gun and a genuine threat to life then ok but just having a record by itself is no good reason at all! Wtf
Unintelligentcommentz
Silly russian bots, always making inflammatory comments
LeftistCoastalElite
Just doing my job comrad
NuLycan
Having a criminal record doesn’t mean the cops have the right to- Oops, saw the username. I know not to engage
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
Because police can't fuck up and kill someone and then blame it on a past criminal record.
srsfaceI8C
Because cops aren't supposed to kill guilty people, either. Why is that so hard to understand?
LeftistCoastalElite
I guess ur right cops need to treat thugs with some dignity
Chronepsis
Humans at their worst are still human and no authority has any right to treat them as anything else
TheGhostofElizabethShue
I’ll always remember that one glorious week of Kavanaugh’s confirmation when republicans staunchly believed in innocent until proven guilty.
mrmayortheiv
Name checks out, nice
CorrugatedUrethra1995
It's all about retroactively justifying that warrant. Who ever secured the warrant should face charges.
terribletruth
They'd have to investigate if the judge knew. The cops could have lied just to have a warrant. We already know they've lied before.
TheTimesTheyAreAChangin
That's step one.
StarscreamAndHutch
Do we know the Judges name that issues the warrant? We need to publicize that as well.
BearsDontCare
Why? What purpose is there in going after the judge? This just looks.like a pitchfork looking for a target
SJohnson23
Maybe if there’s consequences for saying “Sure boys, you go in the dead of night, I trust you without any checking”, change will happen.
BearsDontCare
There are no consequences because judges are not in charge of cops. The onus is entirely on those serving the warrant.
chicagochick
We need way more public transparency on Judges!
MrJimmyRustles
Mary Shaw was the judge and Joshua Jaynes was the cop that requested the warrant & signed the accompanying affidavits.
LurkerOfDarkness
Both of them needs to be arrested as well and put on trial for aiding and abetting premeditated murder.
raosion
Firstly, I agree, but also, WOW your user name makes be shudder.
kmikl
1995 was a pretty great year, to be fair.
RisingPhoenix92
I live in the sweet ignorance of not knowing that first word and I choose to continue living that way until such a time I forget all this
TheSexInstructor
cor·ru·gat·ed -- adjective

(of a material, surface, or structure) shaped into alternate ridges and grooves.
HurrDurrImABurr
Thanks. I hate you.
darynu
i thought the warrant was for a totally different house though? which would make it double the fault of the officers. idk though
AlexjoneswatchingTporn
Nope misinformation the warrant was for her because her ex lied and said she was storing drugs
CorrugatedUrethra1995
The address was correct. The reason for the warrant was shaky at best. Even more so for a no knock warrant. Basically she's dead for dating.
TacoXtreme
I believe the warrant was incorrect yes, but the officers went to the "correct address" because that's where the judge sent them. 1/2
TacoXtreme
The judge, Mary Shaw, should be removed from her bench and be put on trial. The cops went into that house thinking their was a 2/3
TacoXtreme
drug dealer. The cops actions were still completely wrong, but without Judge Shaw issuing a bad warrant this wouldn't have happenned. 3/3
BreakingBean
It was a warrant for a suspect whom was already in their custody iirc
KittenVonCatsworth
If memory serves, it was the right house but they were looking for someone who other LE had already confirmed wasn't there anymore.
ratfaceddog
And straight up lied about there being suspicious packages delivered there.
TheSmallTennisRaquetUsedToStunFlies
Man of the people... Living in monnoco. How about he pays his taxes to fund the schools for inner cities?
clem573
You have a point. Though, even if he pays less tax in percentage, he pays more than you and I together.
happyhumicorn
Yes and apply same logic to every corporation like amazon and apple that don’t pay legitimate taxes using off shore accounts, way more $$$
Rayxzerox
"When I was poor and complained about inequality they said I was bitter; now that I'm rich and I complain about inequality they say I'm 1/2
Rayxzerox
a hypocrite. I'm beginning to think they just don't want to talk about inequality." -Russell Brand
KingDucklingIV
Ok. That doesn’t change anything about the point he is making. Hope you’re not trying to derail the larger point with this
giveittomestraightlikeapearcidermadefrom100percentpears
Famously he is from The Slums (Stevenage)... My friend sprayed his beer across the room when he heard this, he's from there too.
giveittomestraightlikeapearcidermadefrom100percentpears
*He said this at Sports Personality of the Year.. Fucking hilarious. I laughed just then remembering him saying this.
cptcr
the fuck does that have to do with those 3 cops being murderers?
MagnaMaxx
Hold up, he cant move the goal posts that fast
demosteness
Moonnnokcckoo*
MightyMouseTech
How do you know he doesn’t support them? https://www.looktothestars.org/celebrity/lewis-hamilton
TheSmallTennisRaquetUsedToStunFlies
Wow. The problem for non-white people in the UK (Hamilton is British), is inequality not the police. Schools need funding and opportunities
Maestr055
So, are you saying he's wrong?
SaintCody
Does he not pay taxes in monnoco either?
DarthVadersBigBluePenguin
Or people look at the now public jail calls...
nebuchadnezzarispooping
He is dodging taxes like catholic priests dodge rape charges
Cole2999
What the fuck does where he lives have to do with anything? Like, I don't like the dude, but what?
HoochIsCrazzy
push your MPs to close the loop holes that allows that to happen
MightyMouseTech
How are MPs going to have any affect in a foreign country?
HoochIsCrazzy
The implication is that since he is a British citizen he should be paying taxes on his income even though he is domiciled outside the (1/?)
HoochIsCrazzy
UK. It is British law that says he doesn't have to pay UK taxes since he is not resident in UK. Make your MPs legislate world wide (1/?)
HoochIsCrazzy
Taxation on UK citizens if you want non-resident citizens to pay UK taxes
DavidBrooker
I thought living in Monaco was basically the default for Formula One drivers? Regardless, dodging taxes - though kinda shitty - is not 1/2
MightyMouseTech
I thought a lot of Americans say they won’t leave is because taxes are higher in other country. Is this not the same thing?
DavidBrooker
Maybe? More importantly, though, its not relevant. Breonna Taylor deserves justice, no matter what taxes Hamilton has or hasn't payed.
MightyMouseTech
yellowtoothed
They spend 8 months of the year on the road, Monaco is right in the middle of Europe. It’s a no brainer, the tax is a bonus
HereDueToYourOnePeskyDownVote
It's either monaco or Switzerland
DavidBrooker
the same as killing a girl in her sleep for no reason with no repercussions, and it doesn't invalidate bringing attention to that. 2/2
DavidBrooker
(I don't know Hamilton's case. Was he accused of tax evasion [which is illegal] or tax avoidance [which is legal but a dick move]?)
justanotherimgurianbidenhistime
How about Monaco is a really nice place to live and maybe it wasn't about taxes at all?
Andtheworldwentwhite
It has the largest police force and police presence in the world on both a per-capita and per-area basis.
DavidBrooker
F1 drivers generally talk about its weather, nightlife (they're young guys after all), and proximity to European races. But also taxes. 1/2
SmugandFurry
How come when a not-white person who has some money makes a stand, the first response is, "Why don't you spend some of your money..."?
Orthy
Because he’s not a great dude and is doing it for publicity
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Andtheworldwentwhite
It's alright but there a lot of competition from other EU cities, would not be my first choice but I'm not into designer life.
LaPazDeNixon
What publicity does he need? This is more likely to cost him surely?
Pardyfella
To what end?
SmugandFurry
And you know this, because...?
TheSmallTennisRaquetUsedToStunFlies
Jackpot. Hamilton has a hobby horse, something for him and his ego.
Skizzlesnap
Race has nothing to do with it. When any wealthy person “makes a stand” it’s truly symbolic because they have the means to make a difference
SmugandFurry
So, they either spend their money in a way you agree with, or they're not "genuine"? You some kinda Socialist, chum?
Skizzlesnap
Nope just things like this.
RunanD
Yes. Yes I am.
SmugandFurry
Oh, well...carry on, then. No argument from me.
Orthy
Hamilton also doesn’t have a Bull in the ring I appreciate his support but I hate him as a person.
AwesomeTeddybear
I dont know him as a person, but I like that he is standing up for these things
gorgeousninja
Is it really necessary to use words like hate? Isn’t that why the world is so fucked up? You don’t know him, you know his media image.
Shugashuga
It's not like racism doesn't exist outside the USA, and Hamilton didn't buy his way in to racing like many do. If you think race isn't 1/2
Shugashuga
An obstacle for the only black formula 1 driver..... 2/2
youcattabekittenmerightmeow
That’s because he drives for Mercedes silly
Frostbreaker1
I see what you did there
driftaway8
I mean it's not helping but he's always been a whiny asshole.
SniperTeamTango
This is a formula 1 joke that Im guessing you missed or ignored lol.
driftaway8
Definitely missed, will self flagellate to atone for my lack of humor. Possibly will hand in my smartass badge as well.
AnathemaNoreh
I don't know who this is
gorgeousninja
Most famous racing driver in world but isn’t American, not that US is only fixated on themselves all the time
yellowtoothed
Arguably going down as best racing driver of all time too. Americans are like, who?
Counterfit
Beat all tile is still Schumacher to me. When has Hamilton dragged a shit car into contention?
KodiakRS
Lewis Hamilton. Driver currently dominating F1. Hated similar to the Yankees or Patriots. Speaks his mind about political/social stuff.
ColoneISanders
Same. My first reaction was "That doesn't look like Lin Manuel Miranda"
ZettoC
Saaaaame!
Iplacetinyflagsindogpoop
Current F1 champion, he has 6 championships in total and is on his way to win his 7th title.
Andtheworldwentwhite
I thought this was going to be about the musical when I clicked on it.
MERGATROYDER
One of the most privileged drivers to have ever lived.
thefeckamisigningupwithfacebook
MightyMouseTech
You have to be privileged to drive in F1 now.
Counterfit
I think you have him confused with his former teammate Nico Rosberg
BobTheTalkingSkull
PhilippeFalloppe
That's the point. He can use his extreme privilege to speak up for people who have none
geraint616
Is it really privilege if what he power has came from his skill?
PballQhead
Kinda, yes, because driving really fast is a skill that doesn't really benefit anyone, just entertains. Unlike say being a brilliant doctor.
geraint616
What's your definition of a brilliant doctor? Because I guarantee you world class doctors also make millions of dollars
jonlememe
Read the sacrifice of his father working 3 jobs raising him and a disabled brother may change your mind. His privilege was earned not given
Eloquentelephant565
Just like every other pro racecar driver.
DontcallmeIcallyou
This and all the other posts about his „pRiviLeGe“ are complete bullshit! fucking ignorant. He earned everything in racing
thefeckamisigningupwithfacebook
He also earned it. The hard way. And faces a tonne of low-key racism from sone folks who HATE seeing seeing a black British driver dominate
Counterfit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Hamilton#Racist_treatment
yourlocaleconomicsnerd
No. Just no. He got recognised as a prodigy at a young age. His parents were rich, but he isn't close to the most privileged driver ever
yourlocaleconomicsnerd
There has been actual nobility in formula one. Not to mention sons of former drivers
yellowtoothed
He lived in social housing, his Dad worked 3 jobs to pay for his karting. He is one of the poorest drivers to make F1 in last 25 years
yourlocaleconomicsnerd
I didn't know that. I knew his parents paid for his karting and just assumed he was rich from that. Thank you.
DarkRedCape
He’s also one of the best drivers to have ever lived.
MERGATROYDER
That’s not even debatable. Stats are stats.
MoriMyKittens
I strongly disagree with this message
Counterfit
He's definitely top 5 all time, and I am not particularly a fan of his.
DarkRedCape
I welcome all views and opinions. You weren’t rude or disrespectful. Any reason why you disagree so strongly?
Orthy
Dude can’t drive in traffic and has been blessed by a wonderful support staff. Mercedes built the car he just drives it.
27jh
How does he outpace Bottas so much then?...
shorey66
Yes he's had good cars. But to say he's not one of the quickest instinctual drivers is just moronic.
DarkRedCape
I guess you didn’t watch last weekends race then.
Imnotalwayscleverbutwheniamipreferbudlite
Yeah I watched him go from last to 7th in the end of the race. Regardless of the privilege he has at mercedes he's still the best driver rn
weasel1902
One of the best, but also one of the luckiest to have always been at one of the the top teams, either McLaren, or Mercedes
MightyMouseTech
Well, why would you choose a bottom team if you want to win?
weasel1902
No, what I'm saying is that he was lucky enough to start at McLaren, in stead of another team, as is usually the case for the first season
Counterfit
Schumacher did it. Just sayin
DarkRedCape
That isn’t luck, he chose to move from McLaren to Mercedes, that was his choice, and it paid off.
weasel1902
I'm saying that he was lucky enough to start with a championship winning team in his first season McLaren.
whattheheckismyline
What? As in his upbringing?
Orthy
Yes. Also he wins because Mercedes builds the best cars in formula 1
Teleriel
ever been to Stevenage?
Calaros
What? Almost every single F1 driver comes from a privileged background. Racing is a rich person's sport, always has been.
yellowtoothed
Hamilton comes from the worst background of any current driver. Next on the list are Räikkönen and Vettel
Calaros
(2) Hamilton comes from one of the least privileged backgrounds on the grid, raw talent and his dad's hard work got him there.
DontcallmeIcallyou
Bullshit
fartsonturtles
So much hate. He's a driver at the top of his game. Yes he has a great car, but he's also a phenomenal driver. You seem so angry at him, odd
whattheheckismyline
He was brought up in public housing man. He’s lucky with his car at the moment, but he still got more out of shit box McClarens than anyone
Counterfit
He had fast McLarens. Fragile, frequently, but still fast.
thefeckamisigningupwithfacebook
Are you insane? He EARNED that spot
deliciouspizza1
Can you explain why?
LeBaiton
He is an anti-vaxer who shared a judgemental video on his Insta about a corona vaccin and Bill Gates. Then he did a 180 when he got backlash
TheCyclingEngineer
He turned his dog vegan! That shit is animal abuse
Cole2999
I mean, I have him as a racer for circumstantial reasons: he's one of the best, in the best car on the field. It's no competition, but it's
Cole2999
Hate*
Cole2999
not his fault Mercedes is so fucking fast
Cole2999
And then I also hate him for the fact that his teammate, Bottas, an INSANELY talented driver, is constantly outshined by Mercedes'
Cole2999
Preferential treatment.
Orthy
Dude is the definition of hypocrisy and he’s a bit of a douche in real life.
ButterfaceTaintClown
you personally know him then?
Teleriel
he has a platform, and something important to him. he should use it. Whether or not you like him as a person probably doesn't matter to him.
Bigcurly2000
Not really an explanation...
CitizenPrime
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53559934 part of the explanation
FunkyFetusFeet
He seems like a genuinly great guy to me. What situations are you refering to? He seems Hubble. And could lose sponsors by speaking up
FunkyFetusFeet
*humble.. damn auto correct
KroniK907
According to whom? All the F1 journos I've heard who have interacted with him say he's a lovely person. Yall hate him cause hes the best.
SylvesterMarcus
Name a leader in any sport that isn’t at least douche-adjacent.
Pigbear117
Sadio Mane
ChiefSokka
Connor McDavid seems pretty ok
michaelmp
I can’t
WorstShotEver
Messi is kind of un-douchy. He's a bit of a hermit tbh.
deliciouspizza1
I wasn’t aware, I just got into f1. Links to any sources?
Malsbury
From the doco's I've seen he comes across as a stand-up guy. He's a fine person. Not much to hate.
dcwldct
Hamilton struggled with immaturity a lot early in career and still runs some people the wrong way. But Ive actually grown to really like him
KevorkianScarf
His history with his former teammate has set a red mark in a lot of fan’s ledger. He’s grown a lot since. He’s now a fairly sincere person
KevorkianScarf
And like him or not, he’s proven himself one of the best drivers the sport has ever seen. It does get old see him win constantly though
melmboundanddown
He's not even American and he's a stinking rich knob but loves riding the poor oppressed black american train.
ohmeekrob
He’s Puerto Rican isn’t he? Which would make him American.
fartsonturtles
No. He's not Puerto Rican, not at all. Born in Stevenage, UK
DarkRedCape
What does him not being American have to do with anything? Only Americans have the right to be upset with what happened to Breonna Taylor?
yellowtoothed
He has lived in the US for about 7 years
Counterfit
He owns property in the US, but lives in Switzerland
SylvesterMarcus
I’ve been following F1 since about 2012 and I don’t think I’ve ever heard him even hint that he’s American.
Michov
Yes because BLM and oppressed blacks is a strictly american issue /s .. Wanker
Counterfit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Hamilton#Racist_treatment
Malsbury
Should he say nothing?
KroniK907
Bro, all the F1 drivers are filthy rich, including Schumacher. He legit gets way more hate than any other driver. Also the only black
Counterfit
Schumacher wasn't rich until he made it in F1. He father was a bricklayer
KroniK907
Hamilton wasn't either. His parents spent their life savings on his karting career AFAIK
KroniK907
Driver on the grid. I'm not saying it's all about race, but with how badly some people trash him, it has to at least be part of the equation
KroniK907
He has outperformed nearly every driver to have been in the sport. Yall think Schumacher is a God but can't stand seeing Ham be just as good
melmboundanddown
His only connection to America is banging a pussycat doll ffs
deliriousstormdrain
And his pretend accent
CellsReinvent
It's inevitable that your accent will change when you move to a new country and no longer hang around with anyone from "home"
yellowtoothed
...and living in Colorado for the last 7 years
melmboundanddown
As much as Americans have a right to protest whatever they want in the US, non Americans can slchoose from a plethora of better causes
ohmeekrob
But...but he’s Puerto Rican isn’t he? That would make him American.
melmboundanddown
... around the world to support, but nothing quite so popular for the 'ol insta account these days.
Afewflowers
Puerto Rico is a US protectorate. Why is hypocritical to give a shit about people poorer than yourself?
DarkRedCape
Lewis Hamilton is from the UK.
Afewflowers
Sorry, I'm embarrassed, I thought you were hating on Lin Manuel and jumped all over it.