Nov 10, 2017 10:09 AM
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FP edit: Have a great weekend. Stay safe.
Slamdew
medium rare please
Solix37
I cook it and put it in my mouth
BidonDhuile
PO-TA-TOES
AtheistNotAntiTheist
Quite easily.
icecreamlorry
Can we go back to funny pictures and less vegan bashing pls imgur?
Tarlon
Oh that's easy! First you kill it with an air gun, then you remove innards for later. Then you cut it up in all the appropriate parts...
NewmarketMTB
all those steak knives in the kitchen probably aren't for broccoli...
735824
Let me count the ways.
APackOfExcitedGingers
OPs username is on point
IStoleALoafOfBread
my sister-in-law just went vegan and is all self righteous about it....i really want to send this to her
WillWorkForHeadpats
I could eat it on a bun, I could eat it just for fun. I could eat it here or there, I could eat it anywhere
kojenk
i do know they're actually very social and intelligent creatures when not penned into conditions anyone would become dull in but...
they're just so tasty! D:
DarkiKun
the cuter they are the more delicious, we can't be blamed really
RVME
Dip 'em in milk.
MyFrontPorchInMississippi
With my teeth you stupid pansy
LumpDaddy
With steak sauce usually
TheAlmightyJesus
Ifavepicsofnakedwomen
Pffft just throw the head away. If it don’t have a face it’s just beef stake
Danasouris
Put a table spoon of butter into a iron pan, cush up garlic and put it in, season, cook it to medium rare, serve with mashed potatoes.
mareli82
https://youtu.be/PFDElc5sfSM
VisofSer
Deglaze pan with whisky while testing, top and add asparagus or runner beans.
Prebez
WTG, ManLikeKofii
whyisthisusernametaken
What The Guck
Branch68
with a steak knife and a fork
nelamvr6
With a knife and fork, unless those precious creatures are ground into hamburger, then usually with my hands...
NatsukiIsMyWaifu
Hell, If I'm at home I will eat the steak with my hands. Actually I'll eat any large piece of meat like that. Like a caveman.
HauntedPassed
iCommunicateInGifs
CaptainObviouslikesthemthicc
Damn! i thought that was my aunt
Grimmrog
I think we immediately should stop any animal breeding and force all those peopel wanting ti to take care of the animals released that way
lets see how lond these poor creatures gonna live and when the first of their races start to extinct.
People really don't seem to understand that many of these animals are completely reliant on humans for maintenance. Whole ecosystems are.
well ignorance is a bliss, makes it easier for others screaming for things they have no idea about.
A farmer had to sell his land because eco-activists demanded the area's diverse flora to be protected. It was all gone after a year.
Because his cows' grazing kept the weeds at bay, and many flowers could prosper due to the large open farmlands.
blurgh
Even more people dont understand that agricultureanimals are wiping out the rainforests and rivers, destroying insane amounts of eco-systems
BIllions and billions of cows and pigs are not worth sacrificing all the other species on the planet for
Not everywhere is the Amazon with non-existent regulation and rampant opportunism - In Sweden much wildlife is dependent on the farmlands.
tzap
But if it was horse.. Always found it a bit weird how eating horses is frowned upon but cows, totally OK.
DisgruntledFerret
Horses have historically been trained as mounts, not cattle! You don't eat your car unless it's an emergency. You need it to go places.
Well yeah but there's like, a lot of slaughterhouses that outright refuse to handle horses at all, even if it's like, a crippled horse.
And meat import rulings in some states are so strict that you can't even import meat from a factory that also handles horse meat etc.
ReverseTrapTsukasa
We have reasons for that. Canadians have an example right here: https://imgur.com/5pJvIuR
Ooh.. Now I get it!
TheGreatPeru
TRY an make me feel bad when im neck deep in a midrare porter-house.
HorsefaceBeeguy
You eat ass?
legalisegaymarijuana
I'll try: cows cry for hours, sometimes days, when their babies are taken away from them. They have the capacity to suffer from depression.
RoodKontjeAapje
Vegetarian here - I can't deny how fucking awesome a slab of juicy red meat is.
ashipthatshipsshippingships
Tell me about the best steak you've ever had. Like, where'd you get it from. Mine was from RuthsChris in StL
bentwrenches
16 oz bone in ribeye. bought at the market around the corner, fried in a cast iron skillet by me with salt and pepper only. $5.99 lb.
puuduuu
Applebee's 2012. Cost 4.99 on a Tuesday. Tasted like a burnt hamburger patty.
That's your style? Not knockin ya. I'm a medium kind of guy
grimtriggerisagametheorystrategynotcommentaryaboutfirearms
Sirloin strip, medium rare, Crescent City Steakhouse on Broad st in NOLA. New Orleans is a great steak city believe it or not.
Pickles98
Not gonna lie, Gordon Ramsay’s pub and grill in Atlantic City
caiuscassius
14 oz (small potatoes, I know) New York strip from 7 The Steakhouse in Minneapolis
HappyJello
Bone-in filet mignon medium rare plus at Ruth's Chris. Best experience was at a Brazilian steak house in Philadelphia
AnokaJoe
Mine was also from RuthChris in twin cities
uploadsboringimages
Wagyu Filet medium rare topped with bone marrow butter. Kayne Prime. Nashville TN. Still dream about it to this day.
Sounds fucking delicious
Chilobrachys
Had a really good hanger steak at Spoon in Pittsburgh last night. Really well prepared and presented..
Uncookedzebra
Fucking Love Spoon
Unkaroo
Cut. Saskatoon. Pretty pricy but always perfect
AttackMyWeakSpotForMassiveDamage
Ichiban steakhouse. Filet mignon underneath a teriyaki grilled salmon filet. Cooked right in front of me.
Holy shit, I just drooled. The best I had was a medium porter with fried lobster bites on top. It was ridiculous.
thatindiankid95
American wagyu med rare porterhouse and hanger cut by Tom colicchio of top chef's Craftsteak in Vegas. I still think about it sometimes.
What did you pay for that boy? That sounds like a hell of a steak.
Well I got the chef's menu 200/person literally got some of everything on the entire menu 100% worth it. Also I say next to CEO and 1/2
Creator of the Icelandic water company. It was a experience of a meal. Honestly well worth it if you go once in a blue moon. 2/2
McTerminator
Salvatores in Buffalo NY. Had a bone in ribeye and it was heaven.
firstofficercheese
The same Salvatore’s as the garden palace hotel?
Yuppppp
whyshouldiworry
Filet, mid-rare, Jeff-Ruby's in Cincinnati
Laeryc
Filet Minion for anniversary Redstone In EP Rare
TheGoodKingOfImgur
Keen's Chop House NYC. The porterhouse for 2. It was for 1 that night. Thank me later
dirtyketchup
Alexander’s in Cupertino. Cheapest stake is $50 and it’s 8oz. I got the $80 ribeye. Ordered king crab legs as a side because fuck it.
Here: /a/S3ccS
I honestly want to lick my phone just looking at that
sunyudai
Rosemary butter-steak, medium rare, from Granite City Steakhouse, STL. Then they stopped serving the Rosemary steaks...
HadMeSomeChickens
Ribeye, rare, from the boathouse in Troy, Ohio.
skippydogo
32 oz ribeye from Ribbers in Portsmouth OH
helloiamdad
T-Bone. Waffle House. 3:32 am
Real talk. Some of the best food I've ever had was in a waffle house. No shame, no regret. 3am food is the best food.
Compound515
Is a waffle House like a particular restaurant or a genre of food
It is a chain of restaurants in the US.
MrJane12
Go hack up that cow yourself first. You still want to eat it after, then all the power to you.
Jackbag
I could get a good look at a t-bone by sticking my head up a bull's ass, but I'd rather take the butchers word for it.
Zelashi
Did we just play spot the vegan?
Nope. But I have killed and chopped my own meat.
SuckItBlue
And won.
Nope.
codedangerous
This is a pretty dumb line of thinking. I don't like changing my own oil. Does that mean I shouldn't drive a car?
1/?Lemme explain: in society we learn to objectify animals. You don't think of a cow the same way you think of a human. Humans have value as
6/? As a result the person can no longer feel ok about eating them. There is a widely held belief in the vegan community that of everyone
But you would change your oil if you needed to, wouldn't you? Give someone an axe, I bet most wouldn't kill a cow.
4/? You eat meat, you disassociate it from the animal. Veganism occurs when this disassociation is violently undone. The shock of realising
8/? The horrifying reality that they are actually the same thing. In short: vegans believe that most carnists would be unable to do it, &
3/? The idea of an animal as an individual with thoughts & feelings, & the idea of meat as a product you buy and consume. Simply put, when
It's more about how easy it is to contribute to a certain practise when you don't have to witness the suffering yourself.
9/? That they are only able to eat meat because of a lie they tell themselves.
There's some really stupid points being brought up that I'd like to argue, but I shudder at getting this self-righteous wall of text again.
I'm just explaining our point of view! Everyone's entitled to their opinion, I'd respect yours, even if I don't agree with it.
10/10... So.. it's nothing like the car thing. :P but I ate meat for 23 years, I get it.
hotsister
Ate meat for 28 years and stopped the DAY I made the connection. Only wished I had done it sooner.
Yay! So, I hear from your username that you're a hot sister?
2/? Individuals, whereas cows are like objects to be used by you as you see fit. Many people, especially city dwellers, now fully separate
7/? Who ate meat had to slaughter their own animal, this would force them to bridge the gap between meat and animals, and come to terms with
5/? That your food actually had thoughts, emotions, family bonds, forces you to rethink of a cow in the same way that you think of humans, &
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
Why do people take extreme positions on every issue? Most people can get behind humane animal farming,so why not frame the problem like this
Theauthenticdonaldtrump
Confused, people Are.
mikeatike
There are those that are against taking extreme positions on every issue and then there are those that are LITERALLY HITLER!
caunphety
In their minds they’re “extra good”
easybrz
As a farmer I don't like factory farms but I like them better than the loudest protestors.
YutteHermsgervordenbrotborda
I hate how now you're a crazy vegan for wanting meat farms to treat animals better. I love meat,I just think we owe the animals decent lives
even if its "humane" most of the issues remain, ruining the environment and climate for example.
I don't think veganism - or even just not eating red meat - is actually a very extreme position at all in itself.
The one where you force breed to kill animals and destroy the environment will always be the more extreme imho.
WalterSobchaksWorldOfPain
Probably not going to convince the vegan extremists with that username
That didn't even occur to me :) I don't even eat bacon. Mostly poultry & seafood for health reasons. The name is just a silly joke.
Consider that there are 7 billion people in the world, all looking for an identity. If there's a .001% chance that someone will take an...
extreme position on a given issue, then 70 thousand people will do so. How extreme the position doesn't matter given the population...
all that matters is what issues they have been exposed to. Every time, you roll the dice. We've got a lot of potential issues to take...
positions on. This is just a product of probability, global communication, and large populations.
Skibearbumm
Right! growing up in a pretty rural area the local meat here is So much better tasting than Walmarts. Because the cows live healthy lives.
ShoulderDeepInACow
People haven’t figured out that going to the local butcher is better then grocery store. When I take over the farm, I plan on opening my own
Store to sell my beef. We don’t even yell at our cows on our farm because stress = poorer quality meat.
raidleadergutts
Don't forget to avoid laughing at them. I read somewhere that cows recognize it & feel shame or something lol. Not sure if true though.
DarkUranium
Did your mum tell you that?
GreatTeacherMichael
Not every issue, just extremists talk way more than more moderate people, who go unnoticed
Moderates are also less likely to engage in activism. Otherwise environmental & animal rights activism would be more focused on improving...
livestock conditions and reducing red meat consumption in favor of poultry instead of framing it as an all-or-nothing issue.Poultry has a...
much lower environmental impact (lower than some plant foods even). I bet lots of people could get behind eating chicken rather than steak.
egbertmoxie
Actually from an ethical standpoint (reducing suffering = main point of veganism) chickens are MUCH WORSE. Think about it for a second.
itsahorse
Exactly, it's good to avoid meat. Kudos to everyone who does. I'm trying more and more myself to avoid meat. No need to be a dick about it.
Red meat & processed meat, yes. It's less healthy to avoid omega 3-rich seafood, and to a lesser extent poultry & eggs. Studies show that...
Climate change is really a much more important reason to reduce meat consumption and to campaign for it.
FYI, I downvoted you solely for breaking up my comment chain. It's common courtesy to add your reply at the end. That aside, you're again...
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framing the problem in a dishonest way. There are many foods that have an undue environmental impact. Some are livestock, others crops. ...
pesco-vegetarian diets offer greater health benefits than vegan diets. E.g., fish eating vegetarians have a 43% lower risk of colorectal ...
cancer compared to mainstream dieters, whereas vegans only have a 16% lower risk. This means vegans could lower their colon cancer risk...
by 27% by eating seafood. See http://media.jamanetwork.com/news-item/vegetarian-diet-linked-to-lower-risk-of-colorectal-cancers/
The only thing "meat is murder!" achieves is to harden the positions and cause knee-jerk reactions to all anti-factory farming activism.
Ivain
You. I like you.
Micah408
This the internet. People don't take kindly to non-polarizing opinions, mate. Or to polarizing ones either.
That being said, you explain the issues rather well, and you make a good point. Good job, mate.
rabbiebabbie
Cause its not really about pushing the cause it's about boosting their own social standing by seeming morally superior to their friends
It might also help people alleviate their bad conscience for driving a car, buying the latest electronics & producing mountains of garbage.
Good point. Like "yes I buy products that are made with slave labor BUT I don't eat meat!"
To be fair, reducing meat consumption is one of the most realistic ways to contribute against climate change.
True. Giving up red meat is right up there with using bicycles & public transportation. The only thing that has an even more positive ...
For some. I believe a fair number of them do really believe in the cause but have poor interpersonal communication skills.
DankeBrutus
By applying human concepts to other animals. What some anti-meat people call murder is just called life in the animal kingdom.
No animals torture other animals like we do pigs and chickens.
mirhagk
Ha you clearly haven't owned a cat
I was not referring to torturing animals specifically. I don't think animals should be intentionally made to feel pain for the sake of it.
This is in no way intended as an excuse factory farming, but nature is a lot crueller than you think. Many parasites condemn their host...
flamingflamingo
I'm okay with eating cattle. I'm less okay with eating eggs. Mostly because of what happens to male egg-laying chicks.
Caphalor
Males don't lay eggs bruh
Which is why they're tossed alive into a meat grinder.
I just wanted to make a joke, pls don't hurt my feelings
it's the mass prooduction industry thats very bad, better get your eggs form a farmer with free running chickens around.
Cage free chickens are often crammed into barns with shoddy ventilation. Free range chickens might only an hour outside each day. Can't win.
free as in outside, dman are you a city person, ahve you never seen people in villages having chicken? damn what time to live in
Nope. Raised on a farm. How I know eggs at the grocery store don't usually come from small local farms with a couple dozen chickens.
thats why i said get them from a local farmer. or just someoen having chickens.
Slamdew
medium rare please
Solix37
I cook it and put it in my mouth
BidonDhuile
PO-TA-TOES
AtheistNotAntiTheist
Quite easily.
icecreamlorry
Can we go back to funny pictures and less vegan bashing pls imgur?
Tarlon
Oh that's easy! First you kill it with an air gun, then you remove innards for later. Then you cut it up in all the appropriate parts...
NewmarketMTB
all those steak knives in the kitchen probably aren't for broccoli...
735824
Let me count the ways.
APackOfExcitedGingers
OPs username is on point
IStoleALoafOfBread
my sister-in-law just went vegan and is all self righteous about it....i really want to send this to her
WillWorkForHeadpats
I could eat it on a bun, I could eat it just for fun. I could eat it here or there, I could eat it anywhere
kojenk
i do know they're actually very social and intelligent creatures when not penned into conditions anyone would become dull in but...
kojenk
they're just so tasty! D:
DarkiKun
the cuter they are the more delicious, we can't be blamed really
RVME
Dip 'em in milk.
MyFrontPorchInMississippi
With my teeth you stupid pansy
LumpDaddy
With steak sauce usually
TheAlmightyJesus
Ifavepicsofnakedwomen
Pffft just throw the head away. If it don’t have a face it’s just beef stake
Danasouris
Put a table spoon of butter into a iron pan, cush up garlic and put it in, season, cook it to medium rare, serve with mashed potatoes.
mareli82
https://youtu.be/PFDElc5sfSM
VisofSer
Deglaze pan with whisky while testing, top and add asparagus or runner beans.
Prebez
WTG, ManLikeKofii
whyisthisusernametaken
What The Guck
Branch68
with a steak knife and a fork
nelamvr6
With a knife and fork, unless those precious creatures are ground into hamburger, then usually with my hands...
NatsukiIsMyWaifu
Hell, If I'm at home I will eat the steak with my hands. Actually I'll eat any large piece of meat like that. Like a caveman.
HauntedPassed
iCommunicateInGifs
CaptainObviouslikesthemthicc
Damn! i thought that was my aunt
Grimmrog
I think we immediately should stop any animal breeding and force all those peopel wanting ti to take care of the animals released that way
Grimmrog
lets see how lond these poor creatures gonna live and when the first of their races start to extinct.
Tarlon
People really don't seem to understand that many of these animals are completely reliant on humans for maintenance. Whole ecosystems are.
Grimmrog
well ignorance is a bliss, makes it easier for others screaming for things they have no idea about.
Tarlon
A farmer had to sell his land because eco-activists demanded the area's diverse flora to be protected. It was all gone after a year.
Tarlon
Because his cows' grazing kept the weeds at bay, and many flowers could prosper due to the large open farmlands.
blurgh
Even more people dont understand that agricultureanimals are wiping out the rainforests and rivers, destroying insane amounts of eco-systems
blurgh
BIllions and billions of cows and pigs are not worth sacrificing all the other species on the planet for
Tarlon
Not everywhere is the Amazon with non-existent regulation and rampant opportunism - In Sweden much wildlife is dependent on the farmlands.
tzap
But if it was horse.. Always found it a bit weird how eating horses is frowned upon but cows, totally OK.
DisgruntledFerret
Horses have historically been trained as mounts, not cattle! You don't eat your car unless it's an emergency. You need it to go places.
tzap
Well yeah but there's like, a lot of slaughterhouses that outright refuse to handle horses at all, even if it's like, a crippled horse.
tzap
And meat import rulings in some states are so strict that you can't even import meat from a factory that also handles horse meat etc.
ReverseTrapTsukasa
We have reasons for that. Canadians have an example right here: https://imgur.com/5pJvIuR
tzap
Ooh.. Now I get it!
TheGreatPeru
TRY an make me feel bad when im neck deep in a midrare porter-house.
HorsefaceBeeguy
You eat ass?
legalisegaymarijuana
I'll try: cows cry for hours, sometimes days, when their babies are taken away from them. They have the capacity to suffer from depression.
RoodKontjeAapje
Vegetarian here - I can't deny how fucking awesome a slab of juicy red meat is.
ashipthatshipsshippingships
Tell me about the best steak you've ever had. Like, where'd you get it from. Mine was from RuthsChris in StL
bentwrenches
16 oz bone in ribeye. bought at the market around the corner, fried in a cast iron skillet by me with salt and pepper only. $5.99 lb.
puuduuu
Applebee's 2012. Cost 4.99 on a Tuesday. Tasted like a burnt hamburger patty.
ashipthatshipsshippingships
That's your style? Not knockin ya. I'm a medium kind of guy
grimtriggerisagametheorystrategynotcommentaryaboutfirearms
Sirloin strip, medium rare, Crescent City Steakhouse on Broad st in NOLA. New Orleans is a great steak city believe it or not.
Pickles98
Not gonna lie, Gordon Ramsay’s pub and grill in Atlantic City
caiuscassius
14 oz (small potatoes, I know) New York strip from 7 The Steakhouse in Minneapolis
HappyJello
Bone-in filet mignon medium rare plus at Ruth's Chris. Best experience was at a Brazilian steak house in Philadelphia
AnokaJoe
Mine was also from RuthChris in twin cities
uploadsboringimages
Wagyu Filet medium rare topped with bone marrow butter. Kayne Prime. Nashville TN. Still dream about it to this day.
grimtriggerisagametheorystrategynotcommentaryaboutfirearms
Sounds fucking delicious
Chilobrachys
Had a really good hanger steak at Spoon in Pittsburgh last night. Really well prepared and presented..
Uncookedzebra
Fucking Love Spoon
Unkaroo
Cut. Saskatoon. Pretty pricy but always perfect
AttackMyWeakSpotForMassiveDamage
Ichiban steakhouse. Filet mignon underneath a teriyaki grilled salmon filet. Cooked right in front of me.
ashipthatshipsshippingships
Holy shit, I just drooled. The best I had was a medium porter with fried lobster bites on top. It was ridiculous.
thatindiankid95
American wagyu med rare porterhouse and hanger cut by Tom colicchio of top chef's Craftsteak in Vegas. I still think about it sometimes.
ashipthatshipsshippingships
What did you pay for that boy? That sounds like a hell of a steak.
thatindiankid95
Well I got the chef's menu 200/person literally got some of everything on the entire menu 100% worth it. Also I say next to CEO and 1/2
thatindiankid95
Creator of the Icelandic water company. It was a experience of a meal. Honestly well worth it if you go once in a blue moon. 2/2
McTerminator
Salvatores in Buffalo NY. Had a bone in ribeye and it was heaven.
firstofficercheese
The same Salvatore’s as the garden palace hotel?
McTerminator
Yuppppp
whyshouldiworry
Filet, mid-rare, Jeff-Ruby's in Cincinnati
Laeryc
Filet Minion for anniversary Redstone In EP Rare
TheGoodKingOfImgur
Keen's Chop House NYC. The porterhouse for 2. It was for 1 that night. Thank me later
dirtyketchup
Alexander’s in Cupertino. Cheapest stake is $50 and it’s 8oz. I got the $80 ribeye. Ordered king crab legs as a side because fuck it.
dirtyketchup
Here: /a/S3ccS
ashipthatshipsshippingships
I honestly want to lick my phone just looking at that
sunyudai
Rosemary butter-steak, medium rare, from Granite City Steakhouse, STL. Then they stopped serving the Rosemary steaks...
HadMeSomeChickens
Ribeye, rare, from the boathouse in Troy, Ohio.
skippydogo
32 oz ribeye from Ribbers in Portsmouth OH
helloiamdad
T-Bone. Waffle House. 3:32 am
ashipthatshipsshippingships
Real talk. Some of the best food I've ever had was in a waffle house. No shame, no regret. 3am food is the best food.
Compound515
Is a waffle House like a particular restaurant or a genre of food
ashipthatshipsshippingships
It is a chain of restaurants in the US.
MrJane12
Go hack up that cow yourself first. You still want to eat it after, then all the power to you.
Jackbag
I could get a good look at a t-bone by sticking my head up a bull's ass, but I'd rather take the butchers word for it.
Zelashi
Did we just play spot the vegan?
MrJane12
Nope. But I have killed and chopped my own meat.
SuckItBlue
And won.
MrJane12
Nope.
codedangerous
This is a pretty dumb line of thinking. I don't like changing my own oil. Does that mean I shouldn't drive a car?
legalisegaymarijuana
1/?Lemme explain: in society we learn to objectify animals. You don't think of a cow the same way you think of a human. Humans have value as
legalisegaymarijuana
6/? As a result the person can no longer feel ok about eating them. There is a widely held belief in the vegan community that of everyone
MrJane12
But you would change your oil if you needed to, wouldn't you? Give someone an axe, I bet most wouldn't kill a cow.
legalisegaymarijuana
4/? You eat meat, you disassociate it from the animal. Veganism occurs when this disassociation is violently undone. The shock of realising
legalisegaymarijuana
8/? The horrifying reality that they are actually the same thing. In short: vegans believe that most carnists would be unable to do it, &
legalisegaymarijuana
3/? The idea of an animal as an individual with thoughts & feelings, & the idea of meat as a product you buy and consume. Simply put, when
RoodKontjeAapje
It's more about how easy it is to contribute to a certain practise when you don't have to witness the suffering yourself.
legalisegaymarijuana
9/? That they are only able to eat meat because of a lie they tell themselves.
codedangerous
There's some really stupid points being brought up that I'd like to argue, but I shudder at getting this self-righteous wall of text again.
legalisegaymarijuana
I'm just explaining our point of view! Everyone's entitled to their opinion, I'd respect yours, even if I don't agree with it.
legalisegaymarijuana
10/10... So.. it's nothing like the car thing. :P but I ate meat for 23 years, I get it.
hotsister
Ate meat for 28 years and stopped the DAY I made the connection. Only wished I had done it sooner.
legalisegaymarijuana
Yay! So, I hear from your username that you're a hot sister?
legalisegaymarijuana
2/? Individuals, whereas cows are like objects to be used by you as you see fit. Many people, especially city dwellers, now fully separate
legalisegaymarijuana
7/? Who ate meat had to slaughter their own animal, this would force them to bridge the gap between meat and animals, and come to terms with
legalisegaymarijuana
5/? That your food actually had thoughts, emotions, family bonds, forces you to rethink of a cow in the same way that you think of humans, &
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
Why do people take extreme positions on every issue? Most people can get behind humane animal farming,so why not frame the problem like this
Theauthenticdonaldtrump
Confused, people Are.
mikeatike
There are those that are against taking extreme positions on every issue and then there are those that are LITERALLY HITLER!
caunphety
In their minds they’re “extra good”
easybrz
As a farmer I don't like factory farms but I like them better than the loudest protestors.
YutteHermsgervordenbrotborda
I hate how now you're a crazy vegan for wanting meat farms to treat animals better. I love meat,I just think we owe the animals decent lives
blurgh
even if its "humane" most of the issues remain, ruining the environment and climate for example.
tzap
I don't think veganism - or even just not eating red meat - is actually a very extreme position at all in itself.
blurgh
The one where you force breed to kill animals and destroy the environment will always be the more extreme imho.
WalterSobchaksWorldOfPain
Probably not going to convince the vegan extremists with that username
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
That didn't even occur to me :) I don't even eat bacon. Mostly poultry & seafood for health reasons. The name is just a silly joke.
sunyudai
Consider that there are 7 billion people in the world, all looking for an identity. If there's a .001% chance that someone will take an...
sunyudai
extreme position on a given issue, then 70 thousand people will do so. How extreme the position doesn't matter given the population...
sunyudai
all that matters is what issues they have been exposed to. Every time, you roll the dice. We've got a lot of potential issues to take...
sunyudai
positions on. This is just a product of probability, global communication, and large populations.
Skibearbumm
Right! growing up in a pretty rural area the local meat here is So much better tasting than Walmarts. Because the cows live healthy lives.
ShoulderDeepInACow
People haven’t figured out that going to the local butcher is better then grocery store. When I take over the farm, I plan on opening my own
ShoulderDeepInACow
Store to sell my beef. We don’t even yell at our cows on our farm because stress = poorer quality meat.
raidleadergutts
Don't forget to avoid laughing at them. I read somewhere that cows recognize it & feel shame or something lol. Not sure if true though.
DarkUranium
Did your mum tell you that?
GreatTeacherMichael
Not every issue, just extremists talk way more than more moderate people, who go unnoticed
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
Moderates are also less likely to engage in activism. Otherwise environmental & animal rights activism would be more focused on improving...
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livestock conditions and reducing red meat consumption in favor of poultry instead of framing it as an all-or-nothing issue.Poultry has a...
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much lower environmental impact (lower than some plant foods even). I bet lots of people could get behind eating chicken rather than steak.
egbertmoxie
Actually from an ethical standpoint (reducing suffering = main point of veganism) chickens are MUCH WORSE. Think about it for a second.
itsahorse
Exactly, it's good to avoid meat. Kudos to everyone who does. I'm trying more and more myself to avoid meat. No need to be a dick about it.
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
Red meat & processed meat, yes. It's less healthy to avoid omega 3-rich seafood, and to a lesser extent poultry & eggs. Studies show that...
tzap
Climate change is really a much more important reason to reduce meat consumption and to campaign for it.
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FYI, I downvoted you solely for breaking up my comment chain. It's common courtesy to add your reply at the end. That aside, you're again...
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framing the problem in a dishonest way. There are many foods that have an undue environmental impact. Some are livestock, others crops. ...
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pesco-vegetarian diets offer greater health benefits than vegan diets. E.g., fish eating vegetarians have a 43% lower risk of colorectal ...
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cancer compared to mainstream dieters, whereas vegans only have a 16% lower risk. This means vegans could lower their colon cancer risk...
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by 27% by eating seafood. See http://media.jamanetwork.com/news-item/vegetarian-diet-linked-to-lower-risk-of-colorectal-cancers/
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
The only thing "meat is murder!" achieves is to harden the positions and cause knee-jerk reactions to all anti-factory farming activism.
Ivain
You. I like you.
Micah408
This the internet. People don't take kindly to non-polarizing opinions, mate. Or to polarizing ones either.
Micah408
That being said, you explain the issues rather well, and you make a good point. Good job, mate.
rabbiebabbie
Cause its not really about pushing the cause it's about boosting their own social standing by seeming morally superior to their friends
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
It might also help people alleviate their bad conscience for driving a car, buying the latest electronics & producing mountains of garbage.
rabbiebabbie
Good point. Like "yes I buy products that are made with slave labor BUT I don't eat meat!"
tzap
To be fair, reducing meat consumption is one of the most realistic ways to contribute against climate change.
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
True. Giving up red meat is right up there with using bicycles & public transportation. The only thing that has an even more positive ...
sunyudai
For some. I believe a fair number of them do really believe in the cause but have poor interpersonal communication skills.
DankeBrutus
By applying human concepts to other animals. What some anti-meat people call murder is just called life in the animal kingdom.
blurgh
No animals torture other animals like we do pigs and chickens.
mirhagk
Ha you clearly haven't owned a cat
DankeBrutus
I was not referring to torturing animals specifically. I don't think animals should be intentionally made to feel pain for the sake of it.
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
This is in no way intended as an excuse factory farming, but nature is a lot crueller than you think. Many parasites condemn their host...
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flamingflamingo
I'm okay with eating cattle. I'm less okay with eating eggs. Mostly because of what happens to male egg-laying chicks.
Caphalor
Males don't lay eggs bruh
flamingflamingo
Which is why they're tossed alive into a meat grinder.
Caphalor
I just wanted to make a joke, pls don't hurt my feelings
Grimmrog
it's the mass prooduction industry thats very bad, better get your eggs form a farmer with free running chickens around.
flamingflamingo
Cage free chickens are often crammed into barns with shoddy ventilation. Free range chickens might only an hour outside each day. Can't win.
Grimmrog
free as in outside, dman are you a city person, ahve you never seen people in villages having chicken? damn what time to live in
flamingflamingo
Nope. Raised on a farm. How I know eggs at the grocery store don't usually come from small local farms with a couple dozen chickens.
Grimmrog
thats why i said get them from a local farmer. or just someoen having chickens.