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Oh dear...
So…I know there’s a lot of people that get pissed off when people tuck their thumbs in doing a vulcan salute. Yes, this is incorrect, but I’m not sure a lot of people know why! I’m here to explain it!
(This is a repost from two years ago when I originally posted, but seeing as today is the one year anniversary of Mr. Leonard Nimoy's death I wanted to take the opportunity to share the information again.)
Surak's Construct
So Vulcan philosophy is based on five main concepts, all of which are represented in the hand sign.
Nome: The ring finger represents Nome, meaning “all”. All things in the universe combined make existance worthwhile.
IDIC: Invinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations. This is the pinky finger. To achieve knowledge, one must accept all diverse possibilities.
The Doctrine of the Domination of Logic: The middle finger is the belief that Logic should dictate every thought and action.
Reverence for Life: This is the index finger. Vulcans respect every aspect of life, no matter what the circumstances.
Privacy: This is the important part. The thumb stands alone to represent the high regard that the Vulcan people have for individual privacy.
Nome-IDIC together is to represent the joining of diverse things in order to create more meaning. This is separated from Logic-Reverence for Life because Nome-Idic includes emotion. It recognizes that emotion creates meaning and beauty and is part of the Nome.
This salute, combined with the phrase “Dif tor heh smusma”(Live long and Prosper) is essentially a Vulcan telling you that you may believe anything you like and that he or she is respecting any opinion or way of life you may have. It is also them offering to teach you about themselves or anything they know, hoping for some knowledge in return, so both parties may better themselves.
Just thought this bit of information might be interesting/helpful!
Leonard Nimoy was a talented actor and (from what I've heard) an amazing individual. Today I'd like to honour his memory by thanking him for influencing my life in such a peaceful way. He is still, and always shall be, missed.
Live long and prosper.
Mamacrass
that actually was super interesting. Thank you!
BuchoZ77
https://media2.giphy.com/media/VhIBwqL2aaVSU/200_s.gif
MissedTheTrain
This is probably the most interesting thing I've seen on imgur thus far.
nyrb
Come on, we all know it's really just a V for Vulcan.
Asudoge
Sooo.... the dick is the logic?
hyperpiston
Thank you for posting this! I never knew the full explanation, even though I grew up with Trek. Awesome :D
Munchman347
It was a gesture Leonard saw while in Temple and borrowed from a Jewish Rabbi...
LeavesOnTheWInd
It also gives David Tennant mind reading powers, in episodes of the 2-4.5 seasons of doctor who but only in relevant episodes.
InternalServerError
I'm here if you need to talk.
AlexTheBoundary
KHAAAAAAAAAN
mousibald
So he's a nerdfighter, DFTBA.
Dewde
May the force be with you
EdmundSlackbladder
Start wreckin'
colopctech
iworkatkuatdriveyards
beautiful http://www.meh.ro/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/meh.ro10692.gif +1
Sororita
http://www.kappit.com/img/pics/201501_1407_ifcfg_sm.jpeg
CassHL
Praise the Invinite!
ribbontrihypoomom11
The origination of the hand Vulcan thing is Jewish. It's a thing done in Jewish ceremonies. Leonard invented it a the Vulcan salute!!!
MetaVulture
"He is still, and always shall be, missed." -bottled up sadness bursts-
greenbloodedcomputer
:)
notirrelevant
I get the feeling Nimoy improvised some unique new hand gesture, and that explanation was written after the fact
LimeMime565
I can't put my ring finger and pinky together when doing this . They always spread apart.
MostValuableDickbutt
The Vulcan Salute is based off of a hand gesture used by Jewish priests (imitated by Nimoy who, obviously, was Jewish).
rainydaypixy
This is fitting. A year ago today we lost Leonard Nimoy.
DryDrunkImperor
This was really interesting, what a nice way to commemorate his anniversary.
greenbloodedcomputer
Thank you so much!
dogpercy
"A lot of people get upset." Five people get mad
aflarge
Sounds like an epidemic of harassment, to me.
dogpercy
A global pandemic of harassment
StephanoB
I am unable to do the Vulcan salute. I have all my fingers and stuff. Just not the genes to do the salute. I'm a crap guitarist too
Fincozmoz
This post made me curius on Startreck for the first time in 37 years
greenbloodedcomputer
It's a great series! I'd recommend watching a bit of it!
didntshootthedeputy
Your spelling of Star Trek is a Trainwreck.
Jabman48
Train wreck is two words, spelling beside the point. They do need to learn better English though
didntshootthedeputy
Startreck - Trainwreck.
didntshootthedeputy
Explanation aside, it also feels weird and unnatural to tuck the thumb in. Why would anyone do that?
SayWhatYouMeanMeanWhatYouSay
It's a joint issue, some people can't freely control their thumb into that position and hold it.
didntshootthedeputy
Huh, weird. For me it's the opposite, it's a bit straining and uncomfortable after a while, holding the thumb up like that.
SayWhatYouMeanMeanWhatYouSay
Same for me. My best bud's the opposite, trying to hold his thumb out like that is impossible, when he tries his index finger goes with it.
AdmiralSnackbarItsASnack
There comments are pissing me off. There are tons of posts every day about the history and lore of video game/nerdy lore. Yet people are 1/2
grimmy13
Their* or These* I'm not sure
AdmiralSnackbarItsASnack
Freaking out about this post saying "Why are we posting about this, Why do people care about this". It's no different from Star Wars posts.
heatherkb85
The real question is, why are you getting so riled over a bunch of teenage boys who are just here to see Emma Watson's sideboob?
TAKEITEASYIMJUSTKIDDING
Better then freaking pokemon
Braethias
How dare people tell us to get along, using some picture and a meaning some guy explains?!
zacletus
I feel that star wars isn't very deep. The main motive seems to be "let's be evil for evil's sake" (especially in vii).. But thats just me
AdmiralSnackbarItsASnack
If your going off just the movies, I can understand that. But if you've read some of the other stories that's not true at all. As for Kylo,
AdmiralSnackbarItsASnack
We know nothing of why he turned to the dark side. We've only seen 1 movie and not even that much of him. I'm sure we'll get backstory later
Rokobex
I think because of the general problem Star Trek has with the newer generations in general. It's overall to "deep" and peaceful. :/
EasilyOffended
imo, Star Trek has a longer history of being nerdy and not in a good way. It's been slowly losing that negativity, but not as quickly as SW
zacletus
Oddly enough, that's part of why I like it more than star wars.
Rokobex
That's not odd at all, that is its big strength. I personally enjoy both for different reasons. :)
NihilTruth
First of all, fuck off. Second of all, there hasn't been an actual Star Trek-y Star Trek in years, rather than the 'new generation'.
Rokobex
That's my point. Moviemakers seem to think that our generation doesn't want Star Trek because of the said reasons, which is untrue. 1/?
Rokobex
Because of that they serve us the bullshit that are the two new movies and the upcoming one. And if look at the ratings movies like 2/?
fauxglove
Dude. Way too hostile over an opinion on a fictional universe. Dunno who pissed in your cheerios today but brush your teeth and get over it.
NihilTruth
I'm not pissed off over a fictional universe, I'm pissed off at their attitude to the "newer generations".
lordblight
Quiz: where did Leonard Nimoy get the idea for that salute?
CorvusBelli
Judaism.
myopinionsnotimportant
He based it on the Jewish Kohanim's Priestly Blessing...and to both of us, I present a loving...NEEEEEERRRRD!
StanAgde
As a kohanim I approve
lordblight
I accept your loving nerdism.
myopinionsnotimportant
Fellow nerd, I salute you. *tips orange knit hat with earflaps*
lordblight
Tips back zebra head knit cap