The Vulcan Salute

Feb 27, 2016 3:28 PM

Oh dear...

So…I know there’s a lot of people that get pissed off when people tuck their thumbs in doing a vulcan salute. Yes, this is incorrect, but I’m not sure a lot of people know why! I’m here to explain it!

(This is a repost from two years ago when I originally posted, but seeing as today is the one year anniversary of Mr. Leonard Nimoy's death I wanted to take the opportunity to share the information again.)

Surak's Construct

So Vulcan philosophy is based on five main concepts, all of which are represented in the hand sign.

Nome: The ring finger represents Nome, meaning “all”. All things in the universe combined make existance worthwhile.

IDIC: Invinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations. This is the pinky finger. To achieve knowledge, one must accept all diverse possibilities.

The Doctrine of the Domination of Logic: The middle finger is the belief that Logic should dictate every thought and action.
Reverence for Life: This is the index finger. Vulcans respect every aspect of life, no matter what the circumstances.

Privacy: This is the important part. The thumb stands alone to represent the high regard that the Vulcan people have for individual privacy.

Nome-IDIC together is to represent the joining of diverse things in order to create more meaning. This is separated from Logic-Reverence for Life because Nome-Idic includes emotion. It recognizes that emotion creates meaning and beauty and is part of the Nome.

This salute, combined with the phrase “Dif tor heh smusma”(Live long and Prosper) is essentially a Vulcan telling you that you may believe anything you like and that he or she is respecting any opinion or way of life you may have. It is also them offering to teach you about themselves or anything they know, hoping for some knowledge in return, so both parties may better themselves.

Just thought this bit of information might be interesting/helpful!

Leonard Nimoy was a talented actor and (from what I've heard) an amazing individual. Today I'd like to honour his memory by thanking him for influencing my life in such a peaceful way. He is still, and always shall be, missed.

Live long and prosper.

that actually was super interesting. Thank you!

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

This is probably the most interesting thing I've seen on imgur thus far.

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Come on, we all know it's really just a V for Vulcan.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Sooo.... the dick is the logic?

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Thank you for posting this! I never knew the full explanation, even though I grew up with Trek. Awesome :D

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It was a gesture Leonard saw while in Temple and borrowed from a Jewish Rabbi...

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It also gives David Tennant mind reading powers, in episodes of the 2-4.5 seasons of doctor who but only in relevant episodes.

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I'm here if you need to talk.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

KHAAAAAAAAAN

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

So he's a nerdfighter, DFTBA.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

May the force be with you

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Start wreckin'

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Praise the Invinite!

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The origination of the hand Vulcan thing is Jewish. It's a thing done in Jewish ceremonies. Leonard invented it a the Vulcan salute!!!

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

"He is still, and always shall be, missed." -bottled up sadness bursts-

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

:)

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I get the feeling Nimoy improvised some unique new hand gesture, and that explanation was written after the fact

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I can't put my ring finger and pinky together when doing this . They always spread apart.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The Vulcan Salute is based off of a hand gesture used by Jewish priests (imitated by Nimoy who, obviously, was Jewish).

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

This is fitting. A year ago today we lost Leonard Nimoy.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

This was really interesting, what a nice way to commemorate his anniversary.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Thank you so much!

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

"A lot of people get upset." Five people get mad

10 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 9

Sounds like an epidemic of harassment, to me.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 10

A global pandemic of harassment

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

I am unable to do the Vulcan salute. I have all my fingers and stuff. Just not the genes to do the salute. I'm a crap guitarist too

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

This post made me curius on Startreck for the first time in 37 years

10 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 1

It's a great series! I'd recommend watching a bit of it!

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Your spelling of Star Trek is a Trainwreck.

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Train wreck is two words, spelling beside the point. They do need to learn better English though

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 4

Startreck - Trainwreck.

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Explanation aside, it also feels weird and unnatural to tuck the thumb in. Why would anyone do that?

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It's a joint issue, some people can't freely control their thumb into that position and hold it.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Huh, weird. For me it's the opposite, it's a bit straining and uncomfortable after a while, holding the thumb up like that.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Same for me. My best bud's the opposite, trying to hold his thumb out like that is impossible, when he tries his index finger goes with it.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

There comments are pissing me off. There are tons of posts every day about the history and lore of video game/nerdy lore. Yet people are 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 217 Dislikes 6

Their* or These* I'm not sure

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

Freaking out about this post saying "Why are we posting about this, Why do people care about this". It's no different from Star Wars posts.

10 years ago | Likes 192 Dislikes 4

The real question is, why are you getting so riled over a bunch of teenage boys who are just here to see Emma Watson's sideboob?

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Better then freaking pokemon

10 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 9

How dare people tell us to get along, using some picture and a meaning some guy explains?!

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I feel that star wars isn't very deep. The main motive seems to be "let's be evil for evil's sake" (especially in vii).. But thats just me

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

If your going off just the movies, I can understand that. But if you've read some of the other stories that's not true at all. As for Kylo,

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

We know nothing of why he turned to the dark side. We've only seen 1 movie and not even that much of him. I'm sure we'll get backstory later

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I think because of the general problem Star Trek has with the newer generations in general. It's overall to "deep" and peaceful. :/

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imo, Star Trek has a longer history of being nerdy and not in a good way. It's been slowly losing that negativity, but not as quickly as SW

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Oddly enough, that's part of why I like it more than star wars.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

That's not odd at all, that is its big strength. I personally enjoy both for different reasons. :)

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

First of all, fuck off. Second of all, there hasn't been an actual Star Trek-y Star Trek in years, rather than the 'new generation'.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 14

That's my point. Moviemakers seem to think that our generation doesn't want Star Trek because of the said reasons, which is untrue. 1/?

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Because of that they serve us the bullshit that are the two new movies and the upcoming one. And if look at the ratings movies like 2/?

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Dude. Way too hostile over an opinion on a fictional universe. Dunno who pissed in your cheerios today but brush your teeth and get over it.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

I'm not pissed off over a fictional universe, I'm pissed off at their attitude to the "newer generations".

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 5

Quiz: where did Leonard Nimoy get the idea for that salute?

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Judaism.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

He based it on the Jewish Kohanim's Priestly Blessing...and to both of us, I present a loving...NEEEEEERRRRD!

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As a kohanim I approve

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I accept your loving nerdism.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Fellow nerd, I salute you. *tips orange knit hat with earflaps*

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Tips back zebra head knit cap

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