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Source: https://www.cityam.com/mark-zuckerberg-and-team-consider-shutting-down-facebook-and-instagram-in-europe-if-meta-can-not-process-europeans-data-on-us-servers/
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Source: https://www.cityam.com/mark-zuckerberg-and-team-consider-shutting-down-facebook-and-instagram-in-europe-if-meta-can-not-process-europeans-data-on-us-servers/
Shaodyn
"If you don't let us steal your personal information, we're going to leave!" Good. We've been trying to get rid of you for years.
jg03278888
Can you add north America to that list?
Zergele
Screw Fuckerberg.
manulofdoom
*celebrates in german*
brickius
Hahaha as if zuck would golden ticket the possibility of a competitor, what a weak threat
Sheldonian
Fatloudorangecat
And give up a market like that? It's a backdoor threat to politicians and regulators b/c so many people are dependent on it.
Kaleopolitus
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Monkeytron
UsernameMayBeSubjectToChange
Oh no... anyway.jpg
TZO2k15
Oh no... ('-' ) Anyway... ( '-' ) ⇐For when you cannot post gifs or smilies...
blackguard89
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO!
paulus1978
If you paid more tax so you were of intrinsic value to said EU countries, that might work, as it is, there's not really enough of a loss.
PoliticalWanderer
I truly hope that Zuck and co. shut it down in a fit of injured pride and pique, and it makes their stock drop like it did the other day.
tschallacka
BilboBagginslol
And stop white supremacy, racism, fascism and stupidity from spreading? Naw, they won’t.
HashbrownsOfLove
symmetry7
How could Europe ever replace such complex and sophisticated sites? It would take literally dozens of developers. Dozens!
bayesiancuttlefish
Buh-bye
TrixNStix
[Jeremy Clarkson] Oh no. Anyway, ...
hamstaman
That maybe the first time I am actually thankful for european data protection.
manulofdoom
Same
DarthVaderDidNothingWrong
GroumphLePreux
Good ! Let them shut down all other services for all other customers outside the US as well !
TheeRojoDuke
HannibalLectersCatMittens
Oh no. All of those influencers will be out of a useless job and won't get shit for free for doing nothing.
DarthVaderDidNothingWrong
How will we cope
tzap
Oo this would be really nice actually. There's lots of better alternatives to Facebook and this would finally give room for them.
StrangerRangerDanger
while I hate Facebook, I'm really enjoying Instagram. I follow all these wonderful artists and nature nerdy things.
mohavewolfpup
Such as?
tzap
MeWe, Diaspora, Mastodon, and ofc many of the instant messaging platforms could also cover some of FB's use cases.
xizar
Diaspora and Mastodon are just federalized (meaning you're still trusting someone else, or setting up all the infrastructure yourself).
tzap
That's not a problem for me at all. My own dislike for FB is not really necessarily data security, but rather the fact that the ..
tzap
.. algorithms that decide what to show to you are completely hidden and are purely profit-motivated.
Coltaine
Posturing. But oh we can hope they do. Might be bad for small businesses for a minute, but something else will take over.
TZO2k15
Preferably a platform where the user base isn't literally cut from all communication with the company!
Tminus1622d
None of the small businesses I know give a hoot about facebook. If they do have page, it often hasnt been updated in years.
reineseele
They try to make the EU think that they have value to the EU. But in reality on in sellin out data they have value. So spy org. want it? ;)
initforthespecs
Capitalism is great at filling a vacuum.
HardcoreMango
Because of all the dust, right?
initforthespecs
No bc it doesn't mind stacking bodies to do it.
IcemanChilled
TheeRojoDuke
DontTazeMeBrah
GroumphLePreux
Good ! Let them shut down all other services for all other customers outside the US as well !
Lyzard
Let them shut down all services tbh
PoliticalWanderer
rotzverpopelt
Hypothesist
DarthVaderDidNothingWrong
scuba7jb
TheeRojoDuke
Raoul9753
Great, now shut down Tumblr, Twitter, Insta, TikTok and other Social Media too and watch how Mental Health increases over the next years.
stankginchfurbuger
But as a potato identifying ace underemployed idiopathic chronic wasting disease sufferer shut-in, Facebook is my only friend!
Ragganmore
As if it isn't peoples own choice to use those.
BlameIt0nTibor
But it mentioned Insta already
Manhoarder
Youtube and imgur are technically part of that. If you disagree, look into the definition of social media.
lovehandlesmessiah
I actually would prefer to keep them if we could use the data to provide doctors with useful diagnostic tools for DSM-V disorders.
jlurosa
Nooo! Tumblr is my personal dumpster of pics I save from the internet!
V65ozzie
NGL, I agree with you. Also ban smart phones and social media for under 18's.
kjoboo
please not tumblr i love tumblr its literally the only one i use
glacialbae
You just left a comment on imgur.
Radoonichan
For me personally Tumblr is pretty important for my mental health, running a nostalgia/aesthetic blog for myself has been really calming.
graceinsheepsclothing
I notice you didn't mention Imgur
DeKetsendeRechter
They should have. It was never a good place for a social platform, and they refused to make it better. It got worse, in fact. #admoney
BlameIt0nTibor
No identities or subscribers on imgur
GoliathSkittles
It's the same for Twitter? Sure you can choose to enter in all your info there, just like you can choose to enter all your info here.
tabIeandchairs
.... everyone would just use pornhub for their social media
SoftKleenex
Guess I'll go there to find cooking videos "tiny blonde gets her eggs scrambled"
CriticalCritic
I fail to see the problem
lovehandlesmessiah
YourMomIsEverything
most wholesome comments of any platform. Must be the post nut clarity.
DonnaNobleInTheLibrary
Pornhub killed themselves like two years ago, when they blocked regular (even confirmed) users from uploading anything.
PickleForBreakfast
That's because people were uploading more memes than porn. Like the boris Johnson brexit video titled 'blonde fucks entire country'
Raoul9753
eh good, if they got a wank out they might start to think clear for a moment
Jaybloobirbwithsquash
Could you imagine how peaceful the world would be if everyone just wacked off more?
Wubbalubbadubdubb101
I always bust a nut before making an important decision.
ifyouwanttickbuyaclock
Need that post nut clarity
yello0
arewenotkingsandqueenstogether
Shit I don't even know my password, haven't used it in years.
BubblesTheFish
Wish I could delete my facebook but I lost the login details and even the email that I used to make it so as far as I know it's just there.
Bananasandwiches42
I did this back in 2016 and have never once regretted it.
EverydayIdleness
I kind of doubt they actually remove all the data though. I mean, I know they 'have' to, legally, but...
DMSledge
Remember when you sign up it isn't "your data" its "their data"
V65ozzie
I once did the delete thing following an argument with my fiance. She got mad that I deleted it, but, TBH, I was glad it was gone (1)
V65ozzie
A year later, and she comes home, mad. I finally find out that she is upset I've re-activated my FB. Only I haven't. Finally I get (2)
V65ozzie
in touch with someone at FB. Yes, the account wa reactivated, from an IP address in Russia. But they still have all my info, which was (3)
V65ozzie
supposed to have been deleted............ So, no, they don't remove your data. I've been told that they do now, I have doubts.
JustFeedMePieDammit
They won’t. Too much money to be made
BatsArentBugs
You’re right that it’s always a question of money - so if they shut down in Europe, it’s because of it, not despite.
Idontneedrealfacts
They will just have e to find out how. Facebook makes its money selling you
ATerribleArtist
You say that but it seems their wood this past year originate from not making enough money
TimeFoDat
Yeah it doesn't seem realistic. You'd think they'd just open offices in Europe & find some loophole to share data with themselves later.
asalleer
because the Oculus now requires a facebook account there will be other repercussions and lawsuits
pleaseconsiderthatImightbejoking
If they can't stealenough data to cover the cost of the service then the size of the market is a liability, not an asset
manulofdoom
that's the thing: it must be made too expensive for them to do either way
Dopplersheep
But they could make even more if their threats result in deregulation in the EU! *taps side of head*
GeneralMess
EU will happily tell them to go fuck themselves with their hissy fits
TakeTheStairs
the govts might capitulate when thousands and thousands of small business who have invested too much into the FB eco system cry afoul though
purplehexagon
Nope, members of EU can't overturn or go against GDPR and the whole EU is not going to give in just for FB.
CoffeeDaemon
The whole eu doesnt need to, just a handful of politicians with hungry wallets
purplehexagon
That would require those politicians to get their respective nations to leave EU.
Invada
Absolutely. They would never, ever do that. Just a typical business threatening to do X if the people refuse to suck their corporate dick.
DukeDarkwood
The fun comes when people call the bluff, they do nothing, and everyone learns they were full of it.
Invada
Yeah, I love that part. Unfortunately we always seem to forget
Idonotbelievewehavecompany
I tend to agree with this. They will figure something out
mrthewhitee
There isn't anything to figure out. They can make more money by shipping the data around. If they can't do that then nothing will change.
loutreurbaine31415
smth as easy as making the data pass through whatever server eu is ok with then direction usa ?
SavagePatchKids
Their money will find the right pockets
Idonotbelievewehavecompany
Yup
ImKindaLikeBatman
If they pull out it means a new social media will step in, which if it runs in both us and EU, will beat FB
pleaseconsiderthatImightbejoking
livre de visage
Pulsahr
That's litteral translation, the real french word you're looking for is much more fun : "trombinoscope". it's a portrait indexed directory.
pleaseconsiderthatImightbejoking
That's clearly the name for a tool used to check brass instruments for congestion
Aslandus
Indeed, the only time I actually used Facebook was when my sister was studying abroad in Europe and it was the only way to contact her...
Markamanic
I only use it if someone I know is throwing a party and they make an event.
EndOfMeaning
My nephew only wants to have contact through social media. No phone or mail, only FB and Instagram. I haven't talked to him in 2+ years.
apoliticalpanda
Processing data in US servers is the key to making profit
thedelicatesnowflake
Social side being closed for a big part of market means loss of relevance. They need it just to stay alive.
TuckerTheGuy
They don't want to invest in EU datacenter and do not want to terrible of complying with GDPR regulations for UK and the EU.
mrthewhitee
More likely they want to be able to sell the data to US companies that don't have EU presence currently.
ElviraQueenOfDarkness
They have a DC in Denmark and want build one in The Netherlands
VikingHobbit
They are expanding their danish DC.
Quixus
As an American company they cannot comply, because they have to surrender data of EU citizens 1/x
Quixus
and the owners have no legal means of stopping that or even finding out that the authorities have accessed their data. 2/2
Rubynilo
They already have one in Denmark, it was built in 2020
fruust
They have one in Sweden aswell, a server hall at least.
WhatzitTooya
But facebook already has datacenters in the EU.
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
They must only be doing the shady shit in the US then.
TuckerTheGuy
There's a difference between data collection and data processing. And eu mandate is that both storage and processing had to be in the EU.¹
TuckerTheGuy
India followed suit. Indian data has to stay within India, but data processing does not. The days is 'loaned' to the US for processing and ²
GodzillaHarddiskson
They do, but only after recieving $15 million in "support" and a HUGE tax break on the electricity. At least for the one in Sweden.
GodzillaHarddiskson
And all of that that of course amounted to a lot of new jobs, as intended. Oh, wait, sorry, 56 jobs.
scroobiusgav
The don't want to deal with the EUs data laws.