BlasianSaddlesdestroysthefillibuster
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#lgbtq #gayhistory #aids #lesbians
Sep 3, 2021 10:55 AM
BlasianSaddlesdestroysthefillibuster
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#lgbtq #gayhistory #aids #lesbians
IFoundOutThatYouCanHave63CharactersOntheUsernameHowCoolIsThat
Lettuce Guac Bacon & Tomato.
gecko08
The epidemic was made possible through intentional neglect by rightwing government. They didnt care because gay people dont vote republican.
LoggedInToDownvote
were all the nurses Lesbians ?
Fitall101
I saw someone note that it wasn't because L cared for G, it's because they were ignored in the AIDS movement. E.g. drugs were tested for men
colt64
Source? When I was a kid in the mid-90s everything said "LGB". LGBT/GLBT came later. We had the LGB blue pages for example.
wafflesnaffle
The t bit wasn't used until recently so more misinformation
witalaska4
The L-word: Love. Brave women who had compassion and love. They ignored the stigma that came with AIDS, and went in to help regardless. Love
mydamnkidsdontthinkimfunny
I just love tat he's hugging a teddy bear. Snuggle buddies help with so much.
CuppaTeaMate
Dunno where you're from Op, but did you manage to catch "It's a sin" by Channel 4 (UK broadcaster)
Slamtastik
Fuck Reagan
narcoleptiKnickers
[Citation Needed]
Xen300
Apart from being nonsense (which it is), this implies wrongly that straight nurses etc. tended to decline to care for AIDS sufferers.
burlyqlady
But they did
torp
"I know I may die wthout transfusion but can I have blood from white, heterosexual, unvaccinated republican only ?" Trumpers probably.
gnomestress12
That's what we can't forget. Solidarity is the only way she of us survive. Now it's time for the LGB+ to safeguard the rights of the TQIA.
ka1iban
I learned a lot just trying to find out if this is true. LGBT history needs to be taught more.
boowho3187
BGLT… alphabetically
WorkerLurker
That’s a Sandwich though
boowho3187
The best bit is the lettuce ;)
TeddyMoment
I legit made Lettuce, Guacamole, Bacon, and Tomato sandwiches on June 1st!
carrotsonfire
It could be GBLT. It wouldn't change much, other than the catering at Pride Parades would be amazing.
BearRaid
Give Bacon, Less Tomato
imakitty
@/mattxiv on Instagram created the graphic. The original post has a lot more information. @op you might want to credit him.
imakitty
He makes a lot of insightful posts about queer history and also politics and other current events.
llamasaylol
Hmm, I can find unsourced articles agreeing, but Wikipedia seems to suggest otherwise. I am going to remain weary of unsourced images.
strongbadia7
Weary or wary? Personally, I am both.
llamasaylol
Haha, my mistake, but let's go with both :p
DemSumBigAssRidges
I also think it rolls off the tongue easier.
daguq
That's what L said.
TrojanGiraffe
Also, if its blgt, imma think bacon lettuce guac tomato
BlasianSaddlesdestroysthefillibuster
A comment like that is not appropriate considering the subject matter. Please mind your manners, thank u
TrojanGiraffe
Why is that not appropriate?
BlasianSaddlesdestroysthefillibuster
Me too
ApparentlyImaPsychopath
Pose is an amazing show to watch...
Tajik
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AsaMetric
I came down to the comments to say this. Nurse Judy is a treasure.
whitesebra
And swedish ”Torka aldrig tårar utan handskar” - ”Don’t ever wipe tears without gloves”
Leithoa
'Paris Is Burning' is an amazing documentary of the 80s-90s ball scene. 'Kiki' is its spiritual follow up. Both are worth your time.
ApparentlyImaPsychopath
Oh thank you :)
littlepodge
It’s A Sin is also amazing
ArcaneConjecture
I don't disbelieve this, but I'd like a source. Who had the idea to do this? How was the idea spread?
BlasianSaddlesdestroysthefillibuster
As I previously stated I saw the meme in a 40 and up gay men’s group. Normally I am adamant about sourcing like irritatingly cautious.
strongbadia7
OP has sources if you look in the comment section. They're learning how to edit their post to include them.
ArcaneConjecture
The only source I've seen so far is a high school paper...with no sources.
ArcaneConjecture
NVM...@OP gave a good source: https://medium.com/the-narthex/glbt-lgbt-lgbtqia-whats-in-a-name-a5608849c9fa
TheMightyMoto
I heart history.
KTBaileyBoo
Her-story herstory
FeverandAgue
Is this real though? If so, big fan.
EngorgedPhallus
Wherever there's shittyness in history, there's always folks doing good too.
BlasianSaddlesdestroysthefillibuster
Thank u Teddy for this link: https://theforeword.org/832/editorials/the-l-in-lgbt-and-why-order-matters/
HowDoesOneWeaveASigourney
That's a student news site of a Philadelphia high school. No sources listed. Not exactly a reputable source!
Poombah
Edit your post... Add it to the description. ;)
BlasianSaddlesdestroysthefillibuster
I’m new to this app. Thank u for the heads up. I learned to type on an actual typewriter so technology isn’t strong suit.
Poombah
Plenty of oldies here. I learned to write with a chisel and stone tablets :) if you get stuck pm me.. I can help
BlasianSaddlesdestroysthefillibuster
Thank you ??
aboriginalmanhoodquest
Pm? Where do I send the pigeon?
BlasianSaddlesdestroysthefillibuster
And here’s the peer review: https://medium.com/the-narthex/glbt-lgbt-lgbtqia-whats-in-a-name-a5608849c9fa thanks to Teddy
VodkaReindeer
See usage here: https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=glbt%2Clgbt&year_start=1950&year_end=2019&corpus=26&smoothing=3
VodkaReindeer
You should read the comments on that. And I don't know what you mean by peer.
BlasianSaddlesdestroysthefillibuster
In order for knowledge to be accepted as fact there needs to be verification, exhaustive and time consuming verification to find the truth
Binerexis
Anyone can write an article on medium; it isn't subject to peer review.
avidatheist
Pretty sure they're talking about that a medium post is very, very, very far from being peer review.
AliensProbably
Technically, LGBT is an abbreviation, not an acronym. An acronym is an abbreviation that can be pronounced as a word.
AeroEngineer
It's an initialism
PhranksNBeenz
Yes, exactly, except it's a "capitalization". An abbreviation would be like Op-Ed or Ex-Pat. Parts of the entire words are shortened.
PhranksNBeenz
AKA initialism
mymomsaregay
It’s an initialism, which is a kind of abbreviation. Abbreviation just means shortening, that can be truncated words like your examples, or
mymomsaregay
initialisms, or acronyms
Binerexis
Accurate, except that it's an "initialism". Capitalization is when the first letter of a word is written in upper case to comply with
Binerexis
grammatical rules.
skwint
Lesbians Give Blood Tirelessly
kingkongkeom
Quite!
HeydeeHoo
As a lesbian who has donated 4 gallons of blood so far, can confirm
Chief1410
Gay Bacon Lettuce Tomato
ReelPoop
ayyy
BurningVeryImportantThings
at the bare minimum 12 times a year
CrispyNougat
once a month.
Melusin
I wish I could give blood, but I'm on drugs from the no donate list
pareidoliaperson
I guess I'm not LGBT cos I identify with Tirefulness.
ImOPsMom
Try 1/cos for your new identity. oh.. you said "identify" ..nevermind
mikeatike
I wish my car was in in to tire fullness. I think the valve stem needs to be replaced.
kingtyrion
Give Lesbians Blood Tirelessly
Monkeytron
I would if they needed me to.
bippityboppitybuttsex
Because gay men aren't allowed to :(
allenvasher3000
Even people how have been in a threesome can't give blood
theflyingbutt
Bisexual men too. The rule is any man who has sex with other men. Kinda sucks when you're a universal donor...
RonBurgundyQuestionMark
That means two things?
Spongybunny
Iirc, it's if you've had sex with another man for a year, but the point still stands. Yet we overlook straight/bi women who sleep with men.
RadiDaddy
darkwingduckInaMiniSkirt
I didn't even have to play this. Just that first frame told me what he's saying
cjandstuff
RIP Ed Asner.
duncandixoncoffee
He was supposed to come up in may….?
thehighestfever
Hey Freakazoid, you wanna go build a go-cart?
ArmlessHoodieDance
RadiDaddy
https://i.imgur.com/5ajbeWB
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
WTFisUnderwear
Omfg there's a gif of Cosgrove saying "I didn't know that. "???
v
lastmanonearthbutidroppedmyglasses
DarthSpandex
Why did you never marry Cosgrove? I LIKE MEAT TOO MUCH!
MrRandom314159
You can be married aND eat meat.
AThreeFootTallChocolateMooseWithFudgeEyes
DetectiveGaff
That scene is kinda fun. He's realizing he can be married AND enjoy his meat
BallsDeepinaDragonscloaca
Which could be misconstrued as him cheating on his wife with other dudes.
DarthSpandex
I thought it meant he was gay. He never married.
BallsDeepinaDragonscloaca
I did mention that he might have been gay. Reread my previous comment. Lol
DetectiveGaff
If it's such a big deal let's ask Candlejack what he thi
CerisCinderwolf
Apple Jacks! He said Apple Jacks! He didn't say Candlejack! Aww n
magitek
Or he could be married to someone who can provide him meat
UnagiFerrin
It seems to be an interchangeable term, tho LGBT is the most common. Can't find anything confirming this though. Interesting fact if true
Apowerfulhorse
I like QUILTBAG personally.
TheSecondPiewackit
My understanding was that it was something of an anti-patriarchal move.
messica2
LGBT sounds better anyway I think. Rolls off the tounge more so than GLBT. I could have a bias though so maybe I'm wrong on that
Apowerfulhorse
I always read it as lettuce guac bacon tomato first. I like QUILTBAG because it's easier to say.
IAggressivelyComplimentPeople
I prefer BLTG. Also known as Bacon Lettuce Tomatoes with Guacamole.
IAggressivelyComplimentPeople
I would like to point out I do not prefer a sandwich to rights of differing sexual identifications.
BlasianSaddlesdestroysthefillibuster
https://medium.com/the-narthex/glbt-lgbt-lgbtqia-whats-in-a-name-a5608849c9fa
doublejubean
Thank you for the sauce! I knew about lesbians helping during the aids crisis but I wasn’t aware of the link to changing the acronym.
ParanoydAndroid
That article has no contemporary quotes or citations, and indeed skips.over the actual transition, simply saying, "and then LGBT became more
ParanoydAndroid
common", providing literally no evidence on why or how. Besides, it's still wrong bc GLBT is a perfectly common and accepted term. I
ParanoydAndroid
mostly see regional differences.
tuxedobob
I guess I didn’t realize it was supposed to be a pecking order.
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
Interesting write-up, but the "pronounced gay male chauvinism that often veered into misogyny" wasn't the only thing that had previously ...
BlasianSaddlesdestroysthefillibuster
Good point. I’m practically a one man Lilith Fair so you’re singing to the choir…
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
stood in the way of a united LGBT front. Plenty of feminist writers were viciously homophobic and accused gay men of the ultimate act of ...
fennecbutt
Also generally to the point that society has always accepted lesbians more than gay men.
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
misogny: forgoing women in favor of men. They supposedly hated women so much that they would rather sleep with their own gender, and at ...
BlasianSaddlesdestroysthefillibuster
Absolutely men are f*cking pigs & I don’t trust them. Maybe because I was raised by Amazon women? Hmmmm?
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
the same time act out the kind of abuse and exploitation with one another that straight men subjected women to. And of course gay men ...
BlasianSaddlesdestroysthefillibuster
To those who down voted this article I’m curious what internal emotions made u do that? Hate? Homophobia? Cowardice? Peace be with u always
imakesoap
There are people who downvote everything even kittens. Don’t take it personally. All FP posts have lots of downvotes
RMJ7141981
Doesn't seem accurate.
AMatureTwink
You know I ended up sleeping with a man that called me a f*g a lot in highschool, I'd assume it's the same kind of deal with these people
BlasianSaddlesdestroysthefillibuster
I do not regret saying this, even if my logic was unsound. Anger does not manifest truth. Only logic can do that. Alas I am flawed, a human
90s4ever
Alas, I am flawed, only human… I’m not sure if you’re being condescending or you’re just an annoying person. Peace be with you.
heimeyer72
Didn't downvote but I feel F'ING TEMPTED because this is the first time I encounter "GLBT" instead of "LGBT" ever. I'm doubting it's truth!
tyrunn
A source would be nice, I've seen this several times and no one has ever provided one
Winningguacamole
Also rather fucking shitty of you to assume that those would be the reason.
revdondunne
Are any of them emotions?
chloramphenicolderivative
It's not an article it's an unsubstantiated speculation. It's also the typical "men die, women most affected" though I didn't downvote it.
Winningguacamole
Lack of proper source, citation, or proof, without that it reads like feel good internet bs. I want it to be true, doesn't make it true.
M4V3R1CK88
Down voted for your ignorant attitude toward others.
Sabertron14
Looks like you got a taste of your own medicine lol
Sabertron14
Geeze, so many people got their panties in a bunch over just asking why the downvotes and most weren't even the ones you were talking to?
Jangande
Well now I'm downvoting the "picture" and your comment...you sure are upset about it
Kilokai46
Also, often times I find myself accidentally down voting stuff on accident when I go to swipe to the next post.
ionlyspeakthetruth
"You didn't like my post you must be evil" well look what I have here; more downvotes!
gablestout
Because it's both not sourced and untrue. LGBT originated from LGB, which was coined in the 80s. The T wasn't added until the 90s ⇲
gablestout
⇱ sauce: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT
gablestout
⇱ more sauce: https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/11/06/how-has-the-lgbt-acronym-evolved/
TheobromineAddict
You reveal your own hypocrisy when you accuse people of being hateful homophobic cowards followed by "peace be with u."
Sabertron14
Get off your high horse, he didnt accuse anyone of anything. He asked the reason behind downvotes and suggested possible answers.
ChiGamer
Lol "Why did you downvote me you homophobic coward? Peace be with you though." Bit of and oxymoron comment there.
dickSoLong
Don't be a fucking Karen. Posting without source and then accusing everyone who down votes to be homophobic is just entitlement. Get over it
BlasianSaddlesdestroysthefillibuster
Did u even read the previous comments? Hello pot calling the kettle black. Btw I am an openly black gay man & advocate. Shove it
CrimeBrulee
BreathBeStank
I didn't downvote your post but I am I this comment and I'll tell you why. It's bigoted. You assume that people should take what you say as
BreathBeStank
Fact and if they don't they have hate within them without need for further discussion on it
Sabertron14
That's not what happened at all. He literally asked what was the reason for downvoting. Get off your high horse.
BreathBeStank
He asked and listed reasons...
Sabertron14
Still not directly accusing, otherwise there would be a "." not a "?".
BreathBeStank
Those are all pretty presumptive reasons
ThefluteCaptainPicardplayedfirstinhisimaginationtheninreallife
for what it's worth, downvoting sometimes is bots or posters trying to improve their own chances of hitting the FP
ColoneISanders
Not every downvote is "homophobic" my god. As a bisexual you give us all a bad name when you go around spouting assumptive shit like that.
ColoneISanders
I downvoted because of the lack of substantiated source, as I do with all "memes" that claim info without science/research.
IAlwaysUpvoteBeardedDragons
I downvoted because of the q*eer slur. During the AIDS crisis that word was what they called LGBT people before abusing them or worse.
RunanD
For older millenials and above it is a slur, but for younger folk it's just a catch-all for LGBT. Like "gay."
HeraldOfTheBadger
Queer is a slur? Fuck gender queer ppl I guess they gotta change some pride slogans
TychoTychoAlba
I've got no problem with anyone who identifies as queer and I support them in their usage of the word to describe themselves. I don't like1/
TychoTychoAlba
Being called queer or being told that I have to be okay with being called queer. They're not incompatible views.
TychoTychoAlba
Who the fuck downvotes this
30H1PPU5
Honest question from a straight/cis person who doesn’t know better. Isn’t that what the “Q” in LGBTQ+ stands for?
Binerexis
Yes, it is, it's part of a movement to reclaim the word but not everyone likes the idea.
IAlwaysUpvoteBeardedDragons
It used to stand for "questioning". A lot of people resent being called a slur.
IAlwaysUpvoteBeardedDragons
http://www.back2stonewall.com/2018/05/lgbt-website-survey-finds-that-93-of-gay-men-polled-dont-want-to-be-labeled-queer.html
30H1PPU5
Which makes perfect sense. Falls under the same category as “the n-word”. A community reclaiming a slur as a term they are comfortable using
30H1PPU5
Is perfectly acceptable. It doesn’t make it ok for someone outside of the community to use that terminology. Thank you for enlightening me!
Thunder12345
Personally I didn’t downvote it until the OP started accusing anyone who did so of being homophobes even when many people who did so may 1/2
Pedrinius
Totally agree with u! You don't like it? You are an omophone! Fuck that propaganda shit
Thunder12345
Have had entirely innocuous reasons for doing so, such as being unsourced, not the kind of content they prefer or the OP being sensitive 2/2
newsguycraigevans
So you decided to open your mouth and prove yourself a fool.
cadesama
Until the OP asked the reason and then sourced the article in response to criticism?
pandro
I don't recognize the sources as major media outlets or scientific stupdies. Maybe that's just me.
BreathBeStank
His inertial comment was still pretty fucked up.
BreathBeStank
Also the source isn't in the post. I haven't seen his comment with a source but the fact that it's a comment and not a post edit is point
30H1PPU5
I didn’t downvote you, but it’s not an article. It’s just an image with no source attached to it. Maybe if you included an article your post
30H1PPU5
Would be received a bit better? Otherwise it’s just another meme.
TheN8
Still doesn't explain the downvoting, just because you're being a pendant doesn't excuse the hate.
30H1PPU5
It’s not hate. It’s people downvoting a claim without a source. Not to be taken personally.
BlasianSaddlesdestroysthefillibuster
Thank you ?
BlasianSaddlesdestroysthefillibuster
I snatched this meme from my 40 and up gay men’s group and I officially asked for the source. If I can’t locate it, I will delete it.
bitchhappens
It looks like content from @mattxiv on Instagram but I could be wrong just basing this assumption solely on appearance
ItsActuallyDavidNow
successfulbob
I hope you find the source, if validated, what a wonderful story of people loving people in action.
BlasianSaddlesdestroysthefillibuster
Absolutely ?
vikintommy
Your bringing awareness. Dont delete. People can google just as easily as you.
goldensnapper
Don’t delete it . It’s an important story. Thanks for sharing.
Binerexis
They were saying that if they can't find a source, they'll delete it. As nice as it is, it's not right to say it's true if it wasn't.
BlasianSaddlesdestroysthefillibuster
I’m leaving it up to model how to fail with grace. I actually teach this to kids for a living poor me huh?
goldensnapper
Yeah but given the amount of unsubstantiated bullshit on this site the downvotes on this one are 100% homophobic. Do not doubt.
TeddyMoment
Hi @Op, does this help? https://theforeword.org/832/editorials/the-l-in-lgbt-and-why-order-matters/
BlasianSaddlesdestroysthefillibuster
You rock! thank you ??
Totallyscrewedinaustin
You should edit those into your description, so people can read them
TeddyMoment
I wouldn't have known to look this up if it wasn't for your post. It was a team effort!
TeddyMoment
Hi again @Op, found another ? https://medium.com/the-narthex/glbt-lgbt-lgbtqia-whats-in-a-name-a5608849c9fa
tyrunn
A medium blog is not a source lol
TeddyMoment
It depends on the author and if they cite their sources, which this one did "lol"
BlasianSaddlesdestroysthefillibuster
Thank you ?? I’ve been too busy painting to properly do my homework like an adult.
BlasianSaddlesdestroysthefillibuster
Thank you for that, truly I am usually so good about that. I will source it like the good journalist I’ve been in the past. Bad Robert
30H1PPU5
It’s easy to forget, I understand! I hope you share more content though, I have some older gay and lesbian friends and hearing the stories
30H1PPU5
Of what they lived through is both heart wrenching and inspiring. They were truly pioneers, literally fighting for their lives. We all need
30H1PPU5
To listen to more of their stories.
ItsActuallyDavidNow
@BadRobert should be your username.
interesseret
SerenePrincess013
There's a "bad bob" joke in there somewhere, but I need more caffeine.
Davies1212
Bobert
Akurei00
Oof
ArcaneConjecture
1) I didn't downvote, but the sources are shaky. It implies that there's a central Gay Leadership that makes decisions for the community...
BlasianSaddlesdestroysthefillibuster
Agreed thank you ??
ArcaneConjecture
@OP has provided at least one good source: https://medium.com/the-narthex/glbt-lgbt-lgbtqia-whats-in-a-name-a5608849c9fa thanks!
UncleMeaty
It's all part of the homosexual agenda...
tzahtman
Denying the Gay Commandant is an offense punishable by being given the side eye.
ArcaneConjecture
I now have an image of Colonel Klink from "Hogan's Heroes" in my head. Thanks. https://imgur.com/7eG81oH
jaredrietdyk
If the gay community had to pick a central leader who would it be?
ArcaneConjecture
https://imgur.com/AhYSrsZ
Binerexis
Takei
ArcaneConjecture
2)...a conspiracy theory often pushed by rightwingers. Also, I'd always suspected that lesbians got more prominence in the movement once...
BlasianSaddlesdestroysthefillibuster
what they don’t allow is an open book. Ive been a gay activist since I was 17, have interviewed the greatest minds of our community. And you
ArcaneConjecture
If you got this in an interview from a contemporary, that's a "good source". Just say so, and people will get off your case.
zerbert
Once what?
ArcaneConjecture
see reply
Giant2179
Patience grasshopper
BlasianSaddlesdestroysthefillibuster
Btw your privilege shows. Picking someone apart to better yourself is a sign of insecurity. I am a behavior specialist by trade FYI
ArcaneConjecture
My insecurities don't matter. What matters is that we put out info that's well-sourced, and therefore, believable. Especially these days!
ArcaneConjecture
3)...it was realized that many voters didn't seem as "threatened" by lesbians (but I have no evidence for this either). This history is...
ArcaneConjecture
4)...important and deserves well-sourced, meticulous, research by serious historians.