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ShamnusMcfee
Our justice system has serious problems. Don't fucking politicize the brave actions a few good policemen to obscure that.
IronicUsername
Look, good for those cops (and I don't mean that sarcastically) but that doesn't change the fact that bad cops exist and often go unpunished
thanatos777
Really? Google exists. https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/courts/video-shows-former-las-vegas-police-officer-shoving-woman-into-car-hood/
RobSaidThat
Yeah, blame the media for bad cops.
chescah
Just because good cops exist does not mean the bad ones should not be reported on. In fact to silence that would be dangerous.
MardukRules
That’s dumb. He’s never witnessed racial prejudice by law enforcement so it’s not an issue? Heroics of some do not negate fuckery of others.
confanity
Funny thing is I was just talking to a user who claims to be a cop who's a childish asshat with zero chill. Dirties the names of the heroes.
peacefulwarlord
There are many true representations of cops on America, and some of them are terrible
smellsmiketeenspirit
Ah yes. The good old scotsman argument.
leroy666
So what're ya sayin? That there are no abuses by police? Sorry, sir, but both sides are true and it will not get better until police1/2
leroy666
Police themselves. You get rid of the bad ones and the problem is solved.
raknor88
I've also heard stories of former and current military that were in the crowd jumped into action with on site medical care for the wounded.
juggernaut741776
PumyraExplainsItAll
Okay, one cop's experience can’t possibly outweigh statistics. If he’s never responded to an arson, does it mean arson is a media lie?
TheGhostofLouReed
Who is this twat? How about men who do their jobs without the need for constant fawning adulation and validation. Think about that.
IronicUsername
I mean, I think some accolades are due for doing what the cops did in this instance but I agree, this need some cops have and some [1]
IronicUsername
citizens insist on, for constant adulation for the police for simply doing their jobs is bizarre and childish. [2]
ITalkAboutGoats
Way to politicize this shit, asshat.
FatFountain
Being from Las Vegas and having a friend who took two bullets to the back and survived like the tough mother fucker he is. Thank you
TheFriendliestGiant
I'm happy for him that his tiny bit of the US has never seen any form of police corruption or misconduct. Must be nice to live in paradise.
NastyVibes
The dude lives in Alabama . . . You honestly think Alabama has seen no corruption in the police force?
TheFriendliestGiant
But, but he honestly and with a clear conscience has never seen anyone abused by the police. You really think people would lie online?
NastyVibes
Of course people would lie but to be fair those places rarely have reported scandals of their police. You see more corruption from teachers.
misfit119
Wow, you mean most cops are decent people doing their jobs. But that evil news vilifies the murderers out there by reporting on it? Crazy.
misfit119
Who would think the news of all things would report on crimes? It's almost like that's what they're supposed to do. How vile.
Killer3p0
Holy crap! I work for one of the two departments he mentioned. Chris is a great guy.
NastyVibes
That mean you are an Alabamian as well?
Killer3p0
Yup
maemumford
It's very easy for someone who has not experienced (or who outright ignores) police brutality to say it does not exist. Just because you see
maemumford
good police, that doesn't mean bad police dont exist.
maemumford
Guess what? Bad police exist. People die far too often as a result. Accept that.
IronicUsername
Better yet, don't accept it. Speak out, vote, record from a safe distance if you see something wrong (if possible to do so).
maemumford
Agreed.
thanatos777
"Good" cops vote in union reps who fight any sort of accountability or oversight. That makes them not good cops.
Pieala
I was married to a cop, his JOB was to run toward danger. He didn't expect (or get) accolades, called a 'hero', glorified. It was his JOB.
asmasm
"The media demonizing police to line their pockets" whaa..? 1/2
asmasm
Because there's so much money in pandering to the oppressed by slandering those in power? 2/2
TysonGoesOutside
I think its more of a controversy sells news scenario.
asmasm
I'll give you that, but nobody in this world has run a successful business plan that was based on pissing off cops
Cataleast
Not pissing off cops, but getting their viewers/readers all riled up? Then you're in the money.
rockjock29
So, what you're saying is, that you watched cops do their job? The job they signed up and trained to do? Interesting...
Jaytheplane
So what you're saying is, people who work hard at their jobs aren't special? Do 115% for the same pay as 100% to help someone. +15%=respect
BaconCheddarCheeseBurger
That's what I was thinking lol
LumpDaddy
Yep and they do it VOLUNTARILY, so it deserves respect.
Jusmar
I could have sworn they get paid for it.
LumpDaddy
Yep, and not enough either
rockjock29
I'll agree with this. They, cops/firefighters/EMTs etc, get paid waaaaay to little.
ITalkAboutGoats
I voluntarily went to work yesterday. Praise me.
LumpDaddy
Do you put your life on the line at work so others don't have to? If so bravo.
LumpDaddy
1) The fact that this is downvoted shows the shitty, entitlement nature of a lot of people today. First responders have a very hard job
LumpDaddy
2) That deserves our respect. Why don't you strap on a vest or get in an ambulance and go out there and do it then?
rockjock29
I chose not to do that years ago. Why don't they put on a wetsuit and tank and go do some underwater welding? That's what your Q sounds like
LumpDaddy
And we should be grateful for them also, so that others don't have to. I work in law enforcement and most people couldn't do this job.
ReifieR
This guy unfortunately doesn't get that fact that most Americans respect law enforcement - but you lose respect when you constantly
ReifieR
see the bad ones protected.
MardukRules
THIS!
GovernorChristie
Please, find me a GOOD cop who likes to keep BAD cops on force...i promise you, you won't find a single one.
tercicatrix
How about.. hundreds? Read the articles -- most of these cops are defended by their fellows. https://www.reddit.com/r/Bad_Cop_No_Donut/
tercicatrix
If you think a "good cop" does nothing when bad cops run free: newflash, that's also a bad cop.
rshini
Look up Blue Wall of Silence, and look up Frank Serpico - dude got set up to die by his fellow cops because he was whistleblowing.
GovernorChristie
Those aren't, by definition, good cops.
misspoopsalot
I don’t think police are demonised. There are bad apples in a primarily bunch of good ones. However the main issue is that the system and —
misspoopsalot
Culture inside the police force protects these bad apples, hence making all the apples look bad. There are assholes in every profession—
misspoopsalot
But without the right procedures and tools in place, a few bad ones will destroy the reputation of all the good ones. Deal with the bad ones
MardukRules
THIS!
misspoopsalot
And the good ones will be protected in the process.
misspoopsalot
If the police force has the mentality of us(police) vs them(everyone else), and not acknowledge the existence of bad cops, well, it’s sad
CluelessTennisball
Well said, but now I can't help but think only about peanut butter and apples
gethiptothewiz
This doesn't mean there aren't any bad cops. I can appreciate sacrifice and still hold people accountable.
LosPer
Yeah, but the "system" isn't broken over a tiny minority. Protesters are calling the system broken and racist. I don't buy it.
gethiptothewiz
I respectfully disagree
LosPer
From where I sit, the facts on the ground don't support your position. And the desired outcomes of the protests will make us all less safe.
LumpDaddy
My experience with my boots on the ground has been the same
gethiptothewiz
I believe that the justice system in general is situated in a way that favors people of certain socip-economic backgrounds and that 1/
gethiptothewiz
2/ intersects with race. Policing has historically been used as a means of racial oppression. And that has carried on for years which 3/
LosPer
The number of bad cops out there are very small, but are being exaggerated for political ends. By all means, root them out. But remember >
LosPer
Allrighty
The political end is to stop police violence and abuse of power. What do people stand to gain by exaggerating it?
LosPer
There's a difference between incidental issues and systemic ones in terms of the remedies...exaggeration reinforces the view that racism is>
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Allrighty
Which is an entirely reasonable conclusion from the facts, I must say. Hence the outcry.
LosPer
Sorry, you lost me, which conclusion. LOL. :)
improbablypooping
It’s a question of justice. There are bad and good cops. The issue is bad cops are not held to the same legal standards as civilians.
GrunticusrulerofRelmz
You have no coo tho or facts so stay on the shitter
Vallanth
Enough anecdotal evidence to graph itself.
AMFMAN
True but then people turn around and blame good cops even going as far as murdering them in cold blood while on the job, so fuck people
crmzntears
this
thanatos777
And they are protected by "good" cops, who vote in union representatives who fight against any accountability or oversight.
wangchangbackup
Not to mention the PR machine that STANDS BEHIND [officer who just killed a teenager] regardless of the circumstance.
billdozer86
Seriously why does everyone act like it's an all or nothing situation. You can appreciate the police but still think reform is needed.
VaticanCattleStampeeder
Because there's no room for nuance in society any more. ALL police shootings are the same, you can't judge each on their individual merits.
TechnicallyRight
Because everyone now works in extremes. Cant be a moderate anymore, you need to pick a side :/ we have no more bipartisanship because of it.
TechnicallyRight
You cant be pro life and also pro gay marriage... or pro choice and against gun control laws....
jonh95o
Who says you cant?
DaisukeAramaki
All the screaming tribalists out there decrying anyone not ideologically pure enough as "others".
Radcliffelookalike
Unless they act with intent they shouldn't be. A surgeon who loses a patient is also not the same as a maniac who cuts people up.
Sortros
A surgeon is however accountable if he makes a mistake, even if not intended.
Radcliffelookalike
having said that, the bad ones definitely aren't fired as often as they should be, even if they are cleared of criminal charges /2
SmallHandsBigPenis
Not being able to save a life is not the same as shooting an unarmed person out of fear.
Radcliffelookalike
it's an issue if the fear is unjustified, unarmed suspects definitely can still act in a manner that justifies shooting them.
SmallHandsBigPenis
Some are, some aren't, you have to admit when officers overreact.
Radcliffelookalike
I do, I would never claim every shooting by an officer is justified, and some do qualify as murder.
IshitOnWindshields
Cops arent trained to desculate. Thats big part of the prob.
Radcliffelookalike
It is, I agree.
GovernorChristie
Yes we are. Whay do you think we're doing when we're pleading with them to drop their weapons?
DixonUrButt
Yes we are you fucking walnut
Santooth
Justice is too often the rallying cry on the lips of the mob
confanity
I kind of wish we lived in a country where the system was just enough that the mob didn't feel it needed to form, then.
whynot2whyyes
when "justice" means "revenge"... 8-(
cyberspork
OK, Goebbels
IFavoriteRecipesToTryLater
Goebbels? But seriously fuck out of here with that.
m0biusloop
If the good cops got rid of thin blue line bullshit and held others in their profession to ethical standards, the mob wouldn't be necessary
AndImRonBurgundy
This this this! A thousand times this! Could not agree with you more
DixonUrButt
The thin blue line has nothing to do with good or bad cops. Good cops want to get rid of bad cops as much as you do.
Sortros
Then there's a lack of good cops.
Kaloline
The mantle "The Thin Blue Line" actually gained popularity AFTER a documentary in the 80s about cops who wrongly accused a man of murder,
Kaloline
Resulting in his conviction. It's quite upsetting.
Summonsays
If justice was served, there would be no reason to have a mob. It's only when people's needs go unheard are they forced to mob 1/2
Summonsays
Either that or their team won/lost a soccer game.
SnarkyScience
Sounds too much like “if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear”
Summonsays
I find it funny that the people who usually say that are the ones that hide the most.
Shohanna
The police were created to control slaves.. Hmm you should remember that HISTORICAL FACT.
Shohanna
I don't see any slaves around for cops to "control" do you?
Sortros
What?!? No the police was created to keep law and order. Slaves were slaves by law, so yes, but mostly no. You can't put it like that...
stupidstray
Do you know what sucks about bad cops? They make things more dangerous for good cops.
rossimus
Good cops don't nullify the acts of bad cops.
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TaxiGhoul
Imagine it fappening in Herguson!
roads88mph
That's why I'm sure the good cops will stand up and name and shame any minute now. Aaaaany minute.
misfit119
This is part of why I hate the whole blue wall of silence bs. It protects the bad and thus makes people not trust the normal joes.
SirGrowlsALot
The esprit de corps sucks even more, protecting “their own” even though good cops know it makes their life harder & the bad aren’t like them
nclu
We always hear"a few bad apple" but forget the other half of that proverb is "spoils the bunch".
LRonHubbahubba
Same with gun owners.
Threadnomancer
Exactly why I left the force
Photus
to make it safer for the good cops?
Threadnomancer
Because a bad cop almost got me killed and I recognized my ability to do good in another field and help more
steve77777777
you can't leave the force. the force is all around us.
Trentski
Do you know what sucks about bad ______? They make things worse for good ________. Strive to be good no matter what!
Mahfakah
Good pornography?
Theberberian
I really don't understand the downvotes. Imgurians really hate the truth
stupidstray
I'm not trying to be a dick- but what? I don't even get your point here?
Trentski
Bad anything makes it worse for good anything. Bad cops, bad politicians, bad tacos, bad breath... they all make it worse for the good ones.
Trentski
Point taken. Using fill-in-the-blanks is a poor choice for comments.
Higure
A few bad apples ruin the barrel.
misfit119
I hate that phrase so much. It's more than a few bad apples. It's an institution that empowers and protects bad apples.
Higure
That's what allows them ruin the barrel. Had this been taken care of like it should, then the barrel wouldn't be ruined.
Higure
One of the real problems is all the people saying "it's just a few bad apples" and stopping there, as if that's OK.
ChickenFingersYT
Cop here, can confirm.
ireplysometimes
I have an updoot for you <3 hope you like it!
misfit119
You have my sympathies. Many people grow up loathing cops due to mistreatment. I can imagine that makes your life tough. Good luck out there
NightfallEverdark
Agreed and confirmed.
minkeymagik
Why does it seem that good cops don’t report bad cops? Why does it seem bad cops are immune from prosecution?
elleyea
Ditto
MoreCowBellBaby
Where from?
DreadPierateRoberts
Worked for police department for years most are cool but the 10% that are asshats and smaller that ate just bad need to go away
DreadPierateRoberts
Had one threaten me over his computer not working while messing with his gun
TheGreatResurrectorofThreads
Oooh senior in High school here, wanting to go into Criminal Justice :D Being a cop was a nice career choice for me
MrRandom314159
Since you're here, does enlistment tend to decrease or increase following a public incident involving a bad cop?
ChickenFingersYT
I have no idea. I think it's just steady. Needs of the department I guess. Don't ask me hard questions, they frighten me.
Draciella
Whats the most rewarding thing you've done on duty?
Backspackler
Thank you for doing what Iam to much of a pussy to do.. keep on keeping on :)
ChickenFingersYT
You're not a pussy, it's not for everyone. I question if it's for me sometimes.
Backspackler
I have a co worker who was a former cop and is now an ER nurse says he would pick this over that . You guys are hero's in your own right.
finnsto
Honest question. Is there not a required personality/mental health test before you are allowed to work in the field?
finnsto
/2 I went to a presentation by Kevin Briggs (Guardian of the Golden Gate Bridge) a few years ago and he discussed the importance
finnsto
3/ of mental health for officers in the field. I imagine, his team required more therapy than most, but mental health is critical to the job
finnsto
4/ On the other side, there's states, like MS, where mental health isn't a thing. It exists, but no one admits it exists.
GeauxGhoti
1/ And, do you know what sucks about cops who don't speak out about bad cops? They make all but the best cops look bad... I respect that you
sensoryte
if in a tight knit corps you talk shit about your squad mates, shit will haunt you and ruin your life, military, police, special forces
GeauxGhoti
And, if you're not willing to risk that, to do what's right and protect the people, you have no business doing the job.
sensoryte
What's right is pretty subjective. I'm not in the business to make privileged and naive statements like yours, you do you.
sensoryte
I don't like it either, but we don't live in even a remotely perfect or just world..
GeauxGhoti
2/ run toward danger, where others run away. But, if you (cops in general) can run toward bullets, why can't you run toward the cameras and
GeauxGhoti
the press, and the people and stand against the cops that make others look like a gang of murderers? Believe it or not, I respect cops, in
GeauxGhoti
general. You have a job I wouldn't want, and I'm a disabled veteran. I just feel, as many do, that more cops need to stand up against the