ElPolloHombre
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Preface: I worked at a smaller store and they often only employ one full time AP worker, sometimes you get a part timer if it’s in the budget but I never had one in six years. Also at least at my time there floor workers and managers are not allowed to intervene with shoplifters. Not sure what they can do now.
Story 1: (while I’m off duty) Four women come into our store and walk to electronics. Two of them block off each side of an isle containing iPads in a locked case. Woman 3 pulls out a crowbar and breaks into the case while woman four brings the electronics worker further away to distract him by Bose displays (which she is pressing the test button to make a lot of noise). It takes them less than a minute to withdraw about 11 iPads and boogie.
End result: The iPads were insured in some way by the manufacturer of the case. I forward the footage to local police. These women hit several stores successfully before being caught.
Sidebar: All cameras in the store are functional and usually omnidirectional. I could zoom in on someone’s class ring and write down the engravings on it for identifiable evidence. I know because I did it a few times. Many stores deploy 4K cameras and the corporate AP labs are very sophisticated.
Story 2: Observe a man cutting pre paid phones out of their boxes and pocketing them. He also pocketed a lot of headphones and a snickers bar on an end cap. Prepared to confront him. When we met face to face I couldn’t even finish the word “Sir” before he produced a revolver at his belt and asked me to make a smart decision. Per protocol I calmly step out of his way and make sure shoppers didn’t exit the building until he was gone.
Outcome: police were contacted and footage was transferred. Unknown if he was ever caught.
Story 3: Young girl in a group of friends was observed pocketing a fair amount of shampoo and makeup supplies. She was successfully confronted. Friends were not held. With minors procedures are different and I never wanted to ruin a kids life for stupid mistakes. Contacted the police to have them discuss whatever youth programs for deterring crime they had. Turns out the officer that responded was her step dad.
Outcome: I distracted myself by staring the the monitor to avoid the awkwardness of the bitching out taking place. She was trespassed for 12 months. According the Officer Dad she was grounded for the same time.
Story 4: Internals are fairly common. Seasonal worker was suspected of ringing up promotional gift cards and keeping them. (It was true) the front end people scheduled her off of registers to avoid guest complaints. When she was rescheduled to floor duty I was scheduled specifically to monitor her for about a week. The first day and first action she did was walk to electronics and ask for a Wii. She carried it to the front and walked side by side with an older shopper to make it appear like she was helping her carry it. Walked it to her car and returned to the building. Repeated the process with a guitar hero set. Contacted the store leader to review footage. I was scheduled to observe her for a week and it only took an hour.
Outcome: She left the store in handcuffs. I had to door some court work for this one. Unknown what time she served.
Story 5: I’m working a different store at this time since they had no coverage. We had a large Coca Cola sale going on. I get a call from the store leader saying that a woman had stolen over 100 cases of 12 packs. Camera footage showed her calmly filling up several carts and walking them to her truck. She made seven trips and just left. Store workers observed it but (at that time) they were not allowed to intervene, including contacting the police, for many policy reasons.
Outcome: I laughed at the footage of the zero-fucks-given attitude of this woman. Held a workshop for store team members at the next team meeting about guest servicing aggressively; annoying the person sometimes deters them.
Hope you enjoyed a few short stories. Happy new year.
ScrotaSonOfBollix
Kindly accept this up vote
beerlady
I did 2 years at Rite Aid while in college. Seen some shit.
TedTheMan
Sheeny shit?
Gene311
Per protocol you left the guy alone with a revolver? Per my policy I’d let him go on account of not wanting to get shot for a snickers.
ElPolloHombre
This was at the door. I let him walk out without fuss is another way of putting it.
ExquisiteConundrum
As a current target employee, congrats on your escape!
grinnerx
I've done LP work for about 3 years now... had 3 knives pulled and multiple "forceful" stops... haven't had a gun though. Stay safe man
SHIVAKAMINIS0MAKANDARKRAM
Did they let you keep the segway?
ElPolloHombre
If I had one! Barely had budget for me lol.
Treblaine
"We're sending you in alone, Snake. Weapons and equipment are to be procured on site." "Any backup?" "Not a chance."
canhastruth
I worked at Target. In green world, when front facing I watched an old man shit, let it roll down his pant leg and kicked it around.
Linkn216
Green world!! Thats old school.??
LLbeejay
Have worked in retail security for almost 6 years, thing that shocked me the most was the variety of people, oldest collar was in her 80s
WERMS
Awesome! Thanks for sharing. And I must confess, I once unintentionally stole a pack of chapsticks that fell in a crack of a cart.
Drunk3nm0nkey
When I worked at Target my AP guys got bit, pissed on, and had to physically apprehend people all the time. This was kinda tame.
Drunk3nm0nkey
Also somebody took a shit in a garbage can in the holding office lol
Zimno
Had a crackhead kick his way through the wall of the holding cell wall and climb into TSC.
Remy2089
Jesus fuck.
arvaakuka
Did you carry any gear with you? Here in finland i have cuffs, oc spray, telescopebaton and vest against knives
ElPolloHombre
Cuffs and a radio!
LLbeejay
Wish we was allowed the baton in the UK, had a few scary times where that would've come in handy
iluvbunbuns
"Guest servicing aggressively"
GreasyFingersSmearingShabbyClothes
Yeah, that deserves a little more description, I bet there are more stories right there!
ElPolloHombre
Say you had pocket a red hammer. Annoying worker now comes up “let me know if you need help finding anything. Maybe tools or anything”
Remy2089
We do this at my target all the time. Basically, make it so every time he turns around there's another team member asking if he needs help
Tomadzo
Let me get this straight. They weren’t even allowed to call police? Wtf?
paul289
Maybe they thought that "don't interfere so you don't get shot" meant "don't interfere because snitches get stitches"?
Warune
More like if they the staff or customers get hurt stopping suspect it can lead to lawsuit since it happened on store property
KazUrath
Some larger companies claim this because unless you have ABSOLUTE proof, the store can be sued into the ground.
BklynPunisher
That’s what makes America great, a criminal breaks into your house, gets hurt and sues you. Criminals have too many rights.
ElPolloHombre
Polices often changed for regular floor workers. For my tenure it was mainly just report it and cut losses for safety reasons.
ElPolloHombre
Policies*
Lizaderp
Build cases up to felony level, right?
ElPolloHombre
If they person in question was a frequent shopper, yes.
SniperFrog
On the cameras all being functional: Horse crap. Source: I used to install the fuckers. Most of them are fake.
VestingNormal9
I've seen some where you can tell which ones are turned on and off with lights on the side of the chassis. 1 in 15 maybe active.
Linkn216
Many of the domes are empty. AP tends to swap them around though. They can move them to an area when needed.
ElPolloHombre
They were functional unless broken. I have no reason to lie about that.
WarTortilla
They’re not 4K. I don’t believe it. I do IT work and I’ve setup tons of these things. I’ve never installed a 4K one. The files would be huge
WarTortilla
And this is now, not 5 years ago. 4K would be the biggest waste of money. I’ve done some 1080 but most 480-720. I believe they are all real
WarTortilla
If you had 30 cameras with no audio, after one day you’d be around 10.5TB of data in 4K.
ElPolloHombre
Hey I do IT as well now. They indeed are 4K today. Back then they were not. I only bragged about zoom power. And don’t mind wasting that $$
ElPolloHombre
And they don’t mind spending that $$****
WarTortilla
No I mean, it’s too much storage. How far back can they go if they use 4K? Like 2 days? They’d have to be stored locally too, makes no sense
ClassicSean
What "policy reason" forbids contacting police about theft?
shitheadtookmyname
Not running a kid's life
DYLANLEE79
Probably to keep employees from profiling customers. Ie all the calls on black folks just shopping.
spiderqueendemon
This. It's why the customer service loss prevention works. "Oh, good, you found our soda sale! We have a coupon, too!" *customer rings up*
spiderqueendemon
After all, being extra-specially practically-Canadian NICE to people isn't profiling or rude or inappropriate to folks.
spiderqueendemon
And if it becomes genuinely rad to shop with black teenage girls because cashiers pop up with coupons like gophers? Neighbors! Carpool!
spiderqueendemon
I had to take my yearbook-committee to get some art supplies and I swear, it was like an SNL sketch. The girls tried to apologize to me.
DonaIdJTrurnp
yeah but watching her walk out with carts full of pop not going near the registers
DYLANLEE79
My guess is that the loss of pop is less costly than the bad press of racist employees calling cops on minorities.
DonaIdJTrurnp
you mean on the person that you are watching steal right in front of you
DYLANLEE79
Yes. Because they don't trust the employees judgment. And my guess is they hired a firm especially to quantify the different losses.
DaveK014
Buckle in cause this is a long one. One of the AP managers at the Walmart I worked at got fired for an incident with this lady 1/?
DaveK014
She was trying to steal something (can't remember what) and he had been following for a while. When he confronted her on the way out, she2/?
DaveK014
Absolutely lost her shit, started screaming and hitting him and when he went to use his arm to guide her to the AP office she bit down 3/?
DaveK014
On his arm and he had to actually rip her off and drag her to the office where she was sat down in a chair while 911 was on the way 4/?
DaveK014
This lady was visibly shaking in some mix of anger, fear, and outrage. She even went so far as to piss herself on the chair. At one point5/?
DaveK014
She tried to stand up and he put his hand on her shoulder and pushed her back down(the move that got him fired apparently). The police 6/?
fashionableghostcloaks
Fellow former Target APTL. Internals were my absolute favorite and even better when they cried. Dont steal from the company that employs
Zimno
I'm a PMT at a Target in brooklyn. Our shortage from internals is like $1-2 million a year lol
ElPolloHombre
Damn highschool kids?
ElPolloHombre
It was surprising how common it was!
Nanoline
This happened at the Speedway I managed at for a bit. 18 cameras focused on registers, and fucko the clown stole from register four times.
Nanoline
(2/2) We recorded everything AND the registers and safes are recorded meticulously. He left in handcuffs. Had a pregnant fiancé. Idiot.
Lostchild12
1/2 Historically #1 theft is employees, #2 is cleaners, #3 is security & shoplifters depending on location & store. Mall with 3 bored guards
ElPolloHombre
Cleaners were big. I had a few days of showing up at 3AM to monitor a few.
Lostchild12
2/2 knew how to jimmy open stores undetected & robbed them several times before getting caught.
fashionableghostcloaks
You and then act like you feel bad about it. Favorite app story involves a known trans hooker and Halloween. Classic.
mikeatike
Well you can just leave is hanging on an opening like that. Make a post!
fashionableghostcloaks
Maybe one day
scree06
Today is one day.
mikeatike
Or is it Two-day?
BenSnow97
something tells me you're gonna chicken out of it this year
Cranbananarama
Aggressive guest servicing to deter people? Guess a lot of stores don't want my business then...
ilhares
I've encountered a few of these people while casually browsing. I 'politely' told one of them when I wanted them up my ass I'd ask by name.
evilklownz
systemfrown
I know it sounds cliche, but we ALL pay for shoplifters, not just the shareholders.
ddrfr33k
Good stuff, @OP! Got any more stories?
Nalvor
Ditto
PretzleDay
Currently a AP Target employee as well. We all have crazy stories. I'll share mine if enough are interested.
pinanimal
We'd love to hear them
ChuckNorrisgiveslifelemon
Yes please
DanielleHL
Yes please!
desbrd
Yes please.
ChelsTehHazelnut
Once at my store a 13 yr old girl with one leg used her wheelchair to try and steal a bunch of video games. Apprehending her was awkward.
ChelsTehHazelnut
(Wasn't at target however, different retailer.)
Zimno
Parents bring their children in strollers and load the strollers up with shit all the time. Police are less likely to pursue due to cps.
Nibbets
My mom did this with me and my brother. that was the first time my aunt got arrested. My mom pretended to only speak Asian
ddrfr33k
I believe it! Though you probably didn't think to put a stick in the rear wheel, didn't ya?
ChelsTehHazelnut
Lol I did not. Another part of the situation that bothered me is that she was REALLY well dressed, all trendy/snooty acting. Clearly spoiled
ElPolloHombre
Yup. Have to remember some good ones.
121octopuses
Please!
ddrfr33k
Please do!
Eindi
Dot.
ThatsNotMyDadThatsACellPhone
I was a retail mgr and got pretty good at loss prevention. Co-mgr & I ran a sting on sus employees. It worked & we caught em red handed!
norsecelt
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elliath21
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TheOriginalSpiderMan
Doot doot
TheGayestRainbowOfAll
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Rikkom
Interest piqued
yaboiskinnypeen
I got a couple from my point as GSTL if you want to be fed some from my store. :)
pegmis
Well we're waiting .gif
JavaCofe
Good stories. Safety more important than assets, sounds like more of a detterant. Hope you have a good new year! ?
VoidofStatic
CyanideSynn1221
I got some stories of shit that happens at macy's that your stories remind me of lol
BwieDieter
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ddrfr33k
Do it, and send me the link. I love stories like these.
CyanideSynn1221
Lol I haven't made a post I will and i'll link it to you
blade1869
Same here. Currently employed as TPS at target and haven't been for that long but have many stories so far
ReJokeStatistics
I caught 2 AP team members at different stores stealing when I was working there.
BurntToast127
*pulls gun* "Have a nice day sir! Thank you for shopping at Target!"
ElPolloHombre
Spot on.
saltandsunshine
Why I like private jewelry, we get glocks
YoursTrulee
Please go on haha
VibratingNipples
I like to share a story of mine of the time I worked as a cashier at Target 15 years ago. I was in the garden center at the time when it 1/?
VibratingNipples
happened. A man in his 20's was putting electronics in the small target basket till it was full. Than took a bike off the racks and ride 2/?
VibratingNipples
it out of the store through the garden center. Few of the Assets was running after him. Later he was caught in the water channel behind 3/?
VibratingNipples
target. apparently he rode the bike into the water trying to avoid the cops that just showed up. What a dumbass
duhqueenmoki
I worked front end for 6 years. Maybe I should share some stories...
AccountCreatedToUpvoteDogs
Story2: OMG, a few $11 flip phones turned into (multiple?) felonies. I wonder if he was a tweaker or a gang banger (who needed burners)
ElPolloHombre
They were androids of some sort when smart phones started coming out mainstream. Don’t remember the prices but each was triple digits.
AccountCreatedToUpvoteDogs
Ah, I don't think of smartphones as prepaid. Still a crazy story!
ElPolloHombre
He looked the type to need burners for sure!
DonaIdJTrurnp
Why I’m the fucking fuck would it be against policy to contact the police?
gonzar09
Any number of reasons (Current LP). Usually it's to not tie up police resources unless a case meets felony thresholds ($1000+). 1/2
gonzar09
Also, policy is different from state to state. LP in my company/state have to call police if subject is apped and case value is over $100.
ConsumingHate
Most places they have to maintain eye-contact the whole time or see footage. This is to prevent false accusations or harassment sueing
ElPolloHombre
Hey someone knows!
ConsumingHate
Work floor stock in Wal-Mart. We have the same policy. Leads to a lot of police calls from customers thinking someone is perving on them
SomeDetroitGuy
To keep employees from calling the cops on every black shopper who walked through the doors.
spiderqueendemon
Exactly this. That's why, if you have a really complicated purchase or situation where you know you will need multiple employees?
spiderqueendemon
Bring your black friend. Not even kidding you. Retail workers who have been trained on 'customer service as loss prevention' are helpful.
spiderqueendemon
After all, being aggressively helpful prevents people stealing stuff. And when you happen to need lots of help? The system works.
spiderqueendemon
Little old white ladies in my part of The South have caught on to this and young women of color are coveted as shopping companions.
LrrrOfOmicronPersei8
Im up for an AP position at my store. Glad i have some idea what to expect.
ElPolloHombre
It’s a great experience. Opened the door for both of my careers after Target. Bring up sticking to policy and executing your job safely etc.
LrrrOfOmicronPersei8
Im already on the bench for yhe postition, the ETL loves me and introduced me to the ap distric boss on quite a few occasions.
Fundeen
I was AP for Target also. I've got some funny stories myself. Great post. Thanks.
MeatNat
Former APS. We all got them. People are idiots.
Zimno
My favorite one was when a booster propped open a fire exit door and made multiple trips clearing out our bike wall. Took like 15 bikes.
ElPolloHombre
I think my favorite was a guy posing as an Xbox rep saying he needed to recall several systems for refurbishment.
Fundeen
Geez! My favorite was when an Mp3 booster cut his hand open trying to get a product. He bled all over the items and left a blood trail.
Zimno
Better than the shit trail this guy leaves every friday at one of our stores. Like clockwork around 10am shit trail right to the bathroom.
ahennen
I also worked this position, and one time had a minor sign "help me" into our fitting room monitor while her guardian tried on clothing.
BlueFrenchHorn10
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TonyStarkWantsOne
This needs an explanation or its own post or both @ahennen!
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sydneygirl
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yourmomschesthairr
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chimchimchimaru
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vinpolo
You can’t just drop this info and not finish the story!!!! What kind of monster are you?!?!
rabbiebabbie
Well?!? Was the kid a deaf kidnap victim or just trolling??
eddieeeeeee69
Bruh how you gonna bait people with that and NOT finish the story
deadeyesatan
Fitting room monitor?
ahennen
The TV screen you see when you walk in. We don't wantch you dress.
Grandolddrummer
What happened?
DonaIdJTrurnp
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121octopuses
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iamthedoctorthisismytardis
Seriously, cant just drop something like that and jet!
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scree06
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justhanginginthere
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ahennen
Called LE. They responded within 5 mins with a van and several cruisers around the time the subject and minor were leaving the building.
ahennen
Girl wouldn't work with LE, so they had nothing to go off of and had to let them go. However she was pulled over down the road for dui.
ahennen
Overall, it was a very sad situation.
eddieeeeeee69
Damn that sucks