Lead poisoning from bullet

Dec 22, 2018 3:16 AM

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Summary:
1. lead bullet from injury 14 years ago led to lead poisoning
2. lead disrupts hemoglobin synthesis = anemia
3. lead also disrupts cognition
4. treatment #1 = a chelator (a special molecule that binds lead and allows it to be excreted)
5. treatment #2: patient was to receive a surgery to remove the lining of his joint, but he never returned!!!

Full case:
A 46-year-old man presented to the emergency department with worsening chronic left knee pain. Fourteen years before presentation, he had sustained a gunshot wound to the left knee. Radiographs obtained at the time of that injury showed a metallic bullet and debris within the joint (Panel A). No surgery was performed to remove the bullet at that time. At the current presentation, the physical examination was notable for a large effusion in the left knee. Repeat radiographs showed that, in addition to changes consistent with arthritis in the joint, the bullet had fragmented into metallic particles throughout the joint and synovium (Panel B).

Laboratory studies revealed microcytic anemia, with a hemoglobin level of 9.1 g per deciliter (normal range, 12.9 to 16.8), and an elevated blood lead level (182 μg per deciliter [8.8 μmol per liter]). The Mini–Mental State Examination score was 24 (scores range from 0 to 30, with lower scores indicating poorer cognitive performance). The patient showed no other symptoms of chronic lead poisoning. Intraarticular bullets should be removed surgically at the time of the injury. In addition to causing joint damage, intraarticular bullets can fragment and dissolve in synovial fluid, leading to lead absorption and delayed symptomatic lead poisoning. The patient received chelation therapy. Surgical management with a left knee synovectomy was planned, but the patient left the hospital before surgery and was lost to follow-up.

Credit where credit is due:
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMicm1804726

Get some duct tape

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That'll buff right out.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Could be Lupus

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

LEAD poisoning: lead Lines (basophilic stippling), Encephalopathy, Anemia and Abdominal colic, wrist/ankle Drop

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Ow

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Was he an adventurer before he took the bullet in the knee?

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

”Well, I got shot and then one thing lead to another.”

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I used to be an adventurer like you, but 14 years ago I took a bullet to the knee

7 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 2

F

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Seems like people enjoy this kinda post. Interested in more like this???

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/189/153/3361870231_ba7bff5514.jpg

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

In all seriousness though, thanks for this post, it's really cool

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Calpol and mummy’s kisses will sort that!

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Rub some dirt on it and walk it off, wuss.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Reading this kind of felt like watching a Chubbyemu video on youtube

7 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Soooo... when you get shot, take the bullet out of your body. Got it.

7 years ago | Likes 81 Dislikes 2

Generally they dont. They didn't remove mine because it would have caused more damage than it cured. Body tends to eject foreign material.

7 years ago | Likes 24 Dislikes 0

They are almost never removed from the body.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Also definitely do not do it as first-aid like in the movies. Tourniquet and bandage that shit, get treated, and meet a nice surgeon

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Well... usually

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

This never would’ve happened if his knee had a gun...

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I used to be an adventurer like you...

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Read that as "Hobgoblin synthesis" I need a nap

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I understand he used to be an adventurer like me.

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Until you also got shot in the knee?

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Youngest son got it a couple years ago from old pipes under his ancient elementary school. I was encouraging refilling a thermos with water>

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

>at school instead of sending bottled water. Fuck me right?

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Looks more like an arrow to me.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Clearly it is lupus.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Ponle Vicks.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

@op you need an arc reactor for your knee

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

you need some robitussin

7 years ago | Likes 241 Dislikes 1

Really? Just drink water and here's some ibuprofen.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You got ghosts in your blood. Do cocaine about it!

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Nah, he needs some milk.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

If ya run out put some water in the bottle, sshake it up, mo tussin!

7 years ago | Likes 33 Dislikes 0

Chris just got hit by a car. Oh, my god. I'll go get the Robitussin.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The tussin the tussin!

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Windex also works in these cases.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Rub in that 'tussiny goodness! MmMmm!

7 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Let that Tussin get to the bone, boy. Let that Tussin get in there.

7 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

Mo Tussin!!!

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Oh Chris Rock you comedic genius you

7 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Looks like he also lost way too much weight in those 14 years

7 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 1

Good eye

7 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Bad knee

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

"Greg you don't walk as much as you used to, what gives?" 'I got shot in the fucking knee and it hurts all the time'

7 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Maybe he lost a ton of muscle in that leg from barely using it due to the knee pain?

7 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 0

When I read this and saw that the patient left hospital and was lost to follow-ups, I wondered if he was transient/mentally unsound? Vet?

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

At least now he is with all the lead eating his brain

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Drink more water and take motrin

7 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 0

And change your socks

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

There's the U.S. Verteran!

7 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

With all respect to veterans, I am not. I was a military brat thats spent most of my life around service.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Is that the way medical treats you too? Or did service rub off on your parents and that's what they gave you when you were sick?

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I hate to blow your bubble but chelation therapy ain't gonna remove more than 1% of the lead spread around that joint.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Whose bubble are you bursting? The NEJM's?

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yup. Chelation works great for heavy metals that were ingested, not injected.

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

you do both as they were, you chelate to remove the lead floating about the dudes system and you remove the gobs of lead causing the problem

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Rub some Vicks vaporub on it.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Why wouldn't they have the bullet removed? It's not like it's in a dangerous area to operate.

7 years ago | Likes 162 Dislikes 4

There's a possible clue in the text. "patient left the hospital before surgery and was lost to follow-up"

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

People are idiots and some idots are afraid of doctors or medical procedures. Some hide this irrational fear behind religion, too.

7 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 5

It's usually safer to leave them than to remove them. The TV trope of having to remove them immediately is complete bullshit.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Most of the time bullets do not lead to poisoning. It is usually safer to leave them, they become encapsulated and just chill.

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Gunshot wounds are reported to the police. It may be this guy had something to hide.

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The gunshot wound took place 14 years before

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Read the question, please.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

He came to the emergency department with a gunshot that's when it would have been reported

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Don’t you just poop it out eventually like swallowed bubble gum?

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Only if you eat it.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Haha. That's so childish. I love it!

7 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Maybe if he was shot in the butt?

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

EDdoctor here. I get the odd gunshot wound, stabilise them and refer to Trauma/Ortho. Often they’re areas where removing them is riskier 1/2

7 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

Worked trauma for years and can confirm that most bullets are retained unless leaving them poses a greater risk than removing.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I never expected an Erectile Dysfunction doctor to deal with gunshot wounds!

7 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

2/2 Than leaving them alone. Or so my Ortho Colleagues tell me.

7 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

I see that being fine with non lead or metal jacket bullets, But isn't lead poisoning a greater risk than surgery in most cases?

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

To my knowledge, solid metallic lead doesn't pose a large risk. If it wasn't chewed up in the joint I might have never been an issue

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

lack of insurance / money?

7 years ago | Likes 90 Dislikes 2

You're not allowed to turn away someone for lack of money, but the patient can refuse.

7 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 5

Yes, but it's not like the can say they won't ever pay for the surgery, it will just go into debt collection with all the fun of that.

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7 years ago | Likes 41 Dislikes 0

he had the freedom to dodge

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7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

You'd be surprised by the number of people who never followup for things like other major surgeries.

7 years ago | Likes 171 Dislikes 2

Case in point, me... i should be getting surgery to get rid of a hernia i have, but i have gone back to the doctors for like 3 years

7 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

You should go back to the doctor.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Keyword: should

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

My SO did the same thing... His hernia slowly ended up spreading into his ballsack... You can bet he went to Dr for surgury then

7 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

ive had it for the last 6 years. doctors said i could live with it for a lifetime. one of the doctors had been living with one for 20yrs 1/2

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

and my grandma lived with one for quite some time as well. this isnt the first time i got it either, so ima just hold out for now

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Becomes an emergency surgery if it becomes strangulated, man.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

yeah... ive been living with it for like 6 years already... i just dont really have the time to take off work to get surgery or w/e... 1/x

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

doctors said they would recommend that i get it taken care of but, that if its not bothering me, i can live with it for the time being 2/3

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Whereas i actually went to the doctor for mine and they told me it was too small to fix. Never mind that it causes daily discomfort.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

that sucks... i originally had it when i was really young, like 3, got surgery and it came back about 6 years ago... 1/2

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

doctors said i could live with it. it used to be uncomfortable when it first came back, but now i dont notice it 2/2

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I’m guessing it’s also in the US? Lack of insurance plays a large role in that, I’m sure.

7 years ago | Likes 97 Dislikes 5

It would bet that lack of healthcare isn't it. Work in healthcare and ALOT of people are afraid of the doctor and hospitals.

7 years ago | Likes 37 Dislikes 4

Yeah I'm not and it would cost more than my income to have basic insurance. That's not even considering the co-pay.

7 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 0

I had an employee with good insurance through the company who let a colon cancer tumor grow to the size of a grapefruit rather than go to Dr

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

He never went and got it checked out for a year of escalating symptoms such as bloody stool and difficulty taking a dump

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Try working specifically in the dental field. People typically only smile as they’re leaving.

7 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

My dental care in Canada is covered by private insurance through work. Only go when I have to and it’s expensive for a checkup.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Going to the dentist or anything dental related absolutely terrifies me.

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