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Aug 19, 2017 5:47 PM
Jubios
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InsertAmusingUserName
The European part of Turkey should be red as well.
TwinkleBat
Wait...the Irish are winning? Fuck.
clydeman420
Why have a guide for the numbers, when the totals are on the countries?
LosPer
A 6 month heat map is of limited value IMO
Magezz
Looks kind of similar to a muslim immigration per capita map. Not judging Muslims, just pointing out the similarities.
iluvbunbuns
Don't apologize for pointing out the obvious.
aerodynamit3
How many of these terror attacks are by Islamic extremists?
Weelildragon
Depends on the country. I don't think there have been many muslim extremists in the Ukraine.
1414145691
Turkey isn't Europe and it never will be
cousteau
Part of it is (in the continent called Europe, this is). Coincidentally that part's a different color, wtf.
jaythered
No matter where it is its way to many innocent deaths for nothing
KetsuTsuki
Boy am I glad turkey isn't in the EU
OrkfaellerX
Wait? Austria? When?
VolcanoHerder
VolcanoHerder
Not the best timing Crayola...
smallskillerofhambino
Blame @sarah.
maststick
I didn't see it at first
1more4u
Europe, you can not have muslim without preaching their religion of peace!
fottiCorgiRunner
As an Italian this is relevant to me https://www.google.nl/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2017/jun/23/why-has-italy-been-spared-mass-terror
fottiCorgiRunner
Long link sorry
TongueTiedLabourerfromtheLandoftheLittlePeople
Because immigrants are too distracted by the food and women?
fottiCorgiRunner
https://www.google.nl/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2017/jun/23/why-has-italy-been-spared-mass-terror-attacks-in-recent-years
TongueTiedLabourerfromtheLandoftheLittlePeople
Oh because you're used to terrorism. sad/cool.
TheKingOfConquerors
There's probably a link between Italy not colonizing as much too. FRA and ENG both had colonies with Muslim populations into the 1960s.
TongueTiedLabourerfromtheLandoftheLittlePeople
Did you ever see Gunslinger girls?
cousteau
BTW, in case you don't know, there was a terror attack in Barcelona a couple of days ago. 13 dead. (There weren't many posts about it tho)
cousteau
And 1 more in Cambrils, not far from Barcelona. They killed the terrorists though so it didn't go further.
ThesePipesAreClean
Andorra please.
cousteau
Looks 1+ colored.
cousteau
…yeah Wikipedia doesn't list any attack. (Really, one day I'll make an easy-to-color world map for Wikipedia et al)
malfunctionm1ke
Does Erdogans Terror count towards the 105 deaths?
TheTitsOfThisGuy
If people would count erdogans all foul buisness it would be atleast 10times double
Jubios
No. Just violent none-state actors
malfunctionm1ke
Like supressed and hunted minorities?
drame
smells of bias.
Jubios
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violent_non-state_actor
lawideas
Weird. Seems to correlate strongly with the amount of Muslim populations of those countries. Oh well. I'm sure that's a coincidence.
MindOfMobius
Shut up dude.
lurkingnooby
Germen 5-10% muslim, britain under 5 percent. So 5%>10%? Thats some sweet alternative facts you got there.
mantysaippua
2 in finland that happened couple days ago. First time ever on finnish ground a terror attack has happened
rnorja
You do not count Jokela, Kauhajoki, Myyrmanni or Sello? oh right... They were non muslims that were fucked in the head.
mantysaippua
No, I don't. There were reasons why they did that, and there are a reason why this also happened. This is being investigated as murders 1/2
mantysaippua
with the intent of terrorism.
Jubios
The stabbing in Finland has not yet been officially declared a terror attack; it is merely being investigated as one.
TheTitsOfThisGuy
maybe its a accident like one of our politicans said about 9/11... Just a accident that happend...
TheTitsOfThisGuy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDKunJc0Vt4 9/11 accident Swedish leftish politican..
napoleonsghost
It's confirmed now
morfologi
No it hasn't. It's still under the investigation (20/8/2017 04:17).
ImHereForTheCera123MeltSteelBeams
What about crime? Isn't that just as big of an issue when talking about immigration?
IronicUsername
Funny, I didn't see the map or the post mention immigration.
yummmmm
violent crime, no. petty stealing bus-rides and shit, yes.
PrincessDonaldTrumpBANNED2
Lynch them!
Jubios
Here are the numbers for Germany (scroll down to the flags) http://www.unz.com/akarlin/immigrant-crime-in-germany/
MindOfMobius
alternative conservative media. is this better or worse than breitbart?
MindOfMobius
no, but nationalists would like you to think it is.
questionableanswers
What most people don't get: A primary victim of crime are immigrants. Much happens without ever being reported to the police.
ImHereForTheCera123MeltSteelBeams
So assault isn't an issue, the victim must die in order for it to be a problem?
MindOfMobius
source on immigrants committing violent crimes by a research institute that isn't politically anti-immigrant.
IronicUsername
Crime can include deadly attacks and terror attacks don't have to be deadly to be terror attacks. Dumb argument.
ImHereForTheCera123MeltSteelBeams
Trying to exclude all other crime to make figures seem smaller is dumb.
IronicUsername
Um...what figure, exactly? You realize this is a map charting deaths due to terror attacks, right? It's not an "IMMIGRANTS ARE BAD!" [1]
IronicUsername
Your argument seems to basically be "how come this map of terror incidents isn't making immigrants look bad enough!?!?!"
arranrp
seeing as some of the countries with the highest rates have low immigration maybes not
ImHereForTheCera123MeltSteelBeams
Source?
Camelspotting
Ever been to eastern Europe?
ImHereForTheCera123MeltSteelBeams
No
arranrp
france, germany, greece, UK, italy and netherlands would top the immigrations charts for the EU, spain kinda on the list but thats Brits
ObliqueRay
Remind me again, what country is that sandwiched between northern Greece and Turkey?
invertedboner2000
None. Thats north cyprus. Part of turkey
ObliqueRay
Cyprus is between NORTHERN Greece and Turkey?
invertedboner2000
Yes
ObliqueRay
You might be holding your map upside down.
invertedboner2000
Fuck you are right. Thats Kosovo. :\
Jubios
Here are all terror attacks since 2014 in Europe: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorism_in_Europe_(2014–present)
CivilizedUndead
Those are all Islamic terror acts, not over all terror attacks.
Jubios
the only big terror attack by a non Islamic terror organization was this one (since 2011): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumanovo_clashes
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Jubios
It was 2011......
CivilizedUndead
Fair, I makes me wonder if there were more that just didn't get reported.
Jubios
Depends how you define a terror attack. For Exempel are nazis terrorist when they are organist and kill somebody?
shreddedking
you forgot brevik. fucker alone killed more than any terrorist attack in that countries history.
Jubios
That was in 2011.....
shreddedking
if we're pedantic about years then the Macedonian attack was in 2015 not 2014. still what difference does 3 year or 1 year make?
Jubios
Your right but this is the only good list I found for the last years. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_2017
CivilizedUndead
Seem like incomplete lists. I wonder if there is a site that tracks such attacks.
LaufeyArkhon
https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-di
Jubios
The list should be complete and correct. Some Incidents just don't count as terror attack.
TimbiquiDarkThirty
America sends her "thoughts and prayers"
MindOfMobius
By creating conditions for terrorism to spread? Good one America.
TimbiquiDarkThirty
We've knocked full blown extremist Caliphates with consolidated multi-national territories into psychopaths who's best hope....
TimbiquiDarkThirty
Is to indoctrinate teenagers on the Internet. Through a coalition of special forces and local military units with an actual chance of....
TimbiquiDarkThirty
Maintaining peace on the ground... when a diseased dog bites us we put it down.
MindOfMobius
member how ISIS only exists because of foreign interventionism? member how foreign nationals don't appreciate being occupied?
User3rr0r37
I'd be interested in knowing the number of refugees per country as well.
ActuallyALinguist
It is important to point out, in this context, that the vast majority of European terrorists are not refugees.
User3rr0r37
I'd still be interested in knowing the number of refugees per country.
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MindOfMobius
Yep
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User3rr0r37
Turkey is also 99.8% muslim soo there's that...
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MindOfMobius
I'm a different person than the one you think you're talking to
whyexactly
Now show deaths from all other causes.
MrTay
Why. That doesn't justify or lessen anything.
MindOfMobius
Yes it most certainly fucking does
whyexactly
It makes it obvious that the amount of fear regarding terrorism is disproportionately high.
TongueTiedLabourerfromtheLandoftheLittlePeople
Yes, it does. You don't spend a billion dollars on food safety if you're about to be invaded.
OpenPalm
I see Turkey is cooking even when it's NOT Thanksgiving. I swear, some countries have been in conflict since time began...
Arsikere
most of the planet has. it's just started to finally calm down, mostly in the West
JustAwokeFromAComa
A part of Turkey is labeled as zero deaths though, so it must be somewhat safe...at least near Greece.
c0smicj0ker
Mostly Istanbul and some southern cities close to the Syrian border that have had the issues. Elsewhere it's actually pretty safe.
c0smicj0ker
Not that that has anything to do with this map it's clearly just a mistake. But I felt the need to point that out
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InaraBlack
No this is just your normal Middle-Eastern muslims killing each other in lack of Westerners to kill.
TheS4ndm4n
If those were counted, turkey would be a couple shades darker. Hundreds of thousands have been labeled enemies of the state.
MindOfMobius
says the person with little historical knowledge and a tendency to generalize things.
Aldryic
Says the person that can't just have a sensible chuckle and move on.
MindOfMobius
It was a shit joke if that was the aim.
Aldryic
Only if you don't know what Thanksgiving is.
Kingskink
Well turkey have had their share of war and genocide over the last 120 years
MindOfMobius
you mean like almost every other modern nation?
Swumpqt
4 in France? 1 in Germany? Where'd u get this figure lol
schlummi
In hamburg a man got stabbed, the attacker got stopped by migrants with chairs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jELrzjbwasc
Swumpqt
Ok y'all right. Most of the terrorist killings were in 2016 I believe.
Jubios
Again this map is for 2017
CivilizedUndead
Can I get a source? The numbers don't seem right.
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thatgotoutofhand
Title suggests the chart is only for 2017.
Jubios
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_2017
IronicUsername
"Last year" "2017"
WinchesterTavern
It says in 2017.
rainehdaze
Last year isn't 2017.
TheFriendliestGiant
That would be last year. This map is for this year.
MindOfMobius
so that's like a .0000000000000001% chance ill be the victim of a terror attack in any of those countries
BananasForever
they don't count regular murders... we had a bunch of them in Germany this year
woodjoiner
Right. 80 people in all of Europe (Russia, Ukraine, and Turkey are different in my book). How many Bicycle death have there been over there?
rureadyboots
But Muslims. Muslims everywhere! Arrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhh!!!
sendmeshirtlesskylorenmemes
Terror attack, ye. Just a random Muslim attack? Well that's higher chance. Much higher.
saboten13
Lol sorry what constitutes a random Muslim attack and how is it different from terrorism?
MindOfMobius
roughly the same. any kind of terror is unlikely.
HowToBeSuccessfulAsaSerialKiller
Unless nukes.
MindOfMobius
even less likelihood of being nuked in any of those countries.
HowToBeSuccessfulAsaSerialKiller
Just wait.
13thDukeofWybourne
Sadly we can do little more than that. If you're American, though, please do something about it.
MindOfMobius
don't think it counts as terrorism if it's a nuke by a sovereign state, just an act of war.
RoutemasterFlash
Oh well I guess it's all a big fuss over nothing, then.
MindOfMobius
On a list of problems the world is facing, cyber terrorism, climate change, and nuclear proliferation reign supreme.
RoutemasterFlash
I think you are severely wrong. Terrorism does not just affect the people injured or killed as a result. It changes the way a whole society
RoutemasterFlash
thinks and behaves. Try telling anyone of Middle Eastern or south Asian descent in Europe or the USA that it's no big deal.
MindOfMobius
You mean terrorism does exactly what terrorism aims to do? Go figure.
MindOfMobius
Yep.
RoutemasterFlash
I'd really love to watch you say that to the parents of someone killed in a terror attack.
Ambipolar
Yea sure 5+ is yellow and we have exactly 5.. way to stand out. But Norway is still holding the crown for the 2010s (among the nordics)
cavefish
Shame. His "ideology" would've been in better use if he fought against ISIS
TheMortiestMortyfromC137
Holy fuck I forgot about that one
Stigmagne
July 22nd 2011.
cousteau
Tbf you're the only yellow ones.
WinchesterTavern
That was a rough day!
proileri
So Denmark 0 points? I wonder why that is..
CoffeeyCore
Too busy being drunk. We do have a lot of gang killings recently. Few terrorist attacks a few years back, but no deaths, thank the gods.
TheTitsOfThisGuy
They had a muslim attack on a jewish synagog last year.. It was a considered a nazi attack even tough it was arab attackers..
ilikefoodmorethanpeople
This map is fucky? How is Ukraine at 21 if they have on a full on war against terrorists? Russia's numbers are iffy too
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Jubios
Correct, its hart to define whats a terror attack. I used this list https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_2017
jezorko
Hard*
ilikefoodmorethanpeople
Yeah, but the line between separatist and terrorist is blurry at best. Also, Russia hides the number of loses in N. Caucasus region
OpenPalm
One of your own countrymen killed like 30 kids on an island, didn't he?
Ambipolar
well, not mine as I'm a swede (tho we secretly claim norway) Actually 69 political youths on the island and 8 with a bomb at the same time.
pyrotica
69 you say
PHATTGUS
What's a political youth? (I'm an American)
badeanden
it was a summer camp for youths hosted by one of the political parties.
Ambipolar
And that's the work of a single white racist guy, where as a single refugee manage 2-5, so the terrorist problem is a bit tricky..
b00gi
He wasn't racist, he was a nationalist
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MindOfMobius
terrorism isn't something that can be beaten or stopped, that's kindof the whole nature of terrorism
whyexactly
The takeway is that terrorists are shitty at killing people but succeeding at creating terror because people are idiots.
dinaana
that's one guy in 6 years.
HowToBeSuccessfulAsaSerialKiller
So Norwegians make better terrorists? Noted.
ThePiedPiperofRuination
Remember the Vikings? Those guys never died out.
Kollejolle
White privilege you see
itislikeitis
Slavs are imune to kebab
MemeStealingSkeleton
Hushpups
remove
MrWoland
Russia says 38 tho...
TheTitsOfThisGuy
They are not, shit happens there aswell. Long time occupation from the turks will do stuff to your population
itislikeitis
I know i'm a Serb. The things Turks did to us until we got them out with the help of allies are straight out of a horror movie.
TheTitsOfThisGuy
Atleast when we remove kebab we will do it thogeter bre.
uzerok
Except the ones in Russia and Ukraine apparently.
itislikeitis
We don't count slavs that aren't in peace
thesolamnus
Pretty sure it's not the arab terrorist. Separatists and militia etc. Eastern Ukraine is still pretty much a warzone
uzerok
Eastern Ukraine, yes. But as the media would have me believe that St. Petersburg metro bombing this year had some Islamic background.
FoeOfFauxPho
Saint Petersburg this year. It was the classic you know who. Also weird, cuz i happened to wait at an airport gate for a flight leaving to
FoeOfFauxPho
St. Petersburg that day. I may have coincidently seen some people that would be killed or injured.
invertedboner2000
Honestly. Do slavs actually hate muslims? I know serbs do.
357nb
Have you ever been to Serbia? http://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/40814884
itislikeitis
We don't like kebab but we know far too well how it feels to be a refugee (look up balkan wars) so we're making sure they don't die
SonOfVon
depends who you ask
Mambinga
It doesn't really have all that much to do with muslims Lipka Tatars are great example https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipka_Tatars 1/2
Mambinga
Most of the time there is no real hatred we just don't like when some one enforces their will on us, but yeah there are some rotten apples
Matriiix86
Serbs they hate everyone and everyone in Balkan hates the serbs
invertedboner2000
Its like diet russia over there
itislikeitis
I'm a Serbian and i respect my neighbors, i have many relatives who live in Croatia and Bosnia and i know many Serbs that are the same
itislikeitis
All in all the younger generations are much more open towards their neighbor countries. There is still nationalism in Balkans but its dying
vllegend
The Muslim's there blast prayer from their towers at 4:30am, even then there's no hate specifically but there's definitely a solid devide
invertedboner2000
Isnt it more about the Kosovo/bosnia thing rather than religion?
vllegend
Yes and the fact that a lot of countries are still trying to claim parts that don't belong to them, however its the influence I'm referring
civecnavi
Religion is the main reason, islam caused great suffering to the people there, hence their hatred for it.