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Jul 1, 2025 4:39 PM
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TheDoomBear
so, violence it is then.
Xaiydee
Are we talking about the big beautiful bill? :(
KarateCanine
So that's it. America is dead. I didn't think ww3 would be so soon against america.
BellsTheorem
The best purchase billionaires have ever made.
CatEyebrows
hfctom
I'm not sure how they sleep at night.
M4UsedRollout
It’s back to the House to approve the Senate version. Let’s see how many of the Republicans who complained that they wouldn’t have voted for it if they knew what was in it fall back in line. Trump is going to throw a fit if it’s not on his desk by Friday.
djangojazz
Republicans are so devoid of reality they don't care. They are a cult concerned that EVERYONE is lazy and entitled. While giving all the money to people with infinite healthcare and benefits.
DukePhelan
May everyone who voted for this bill and the people who enabled them get everything they deserve.
Rainbowdaesh
People who sat out the election or encouraged others to do so will 100% blame this on democrats.
RetiredLaserMan
It won't bother a single one of them and that's the problem.
x1xruex1x
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x1xruex1x
Time to prepare our anuses for this fucking
Sebastopol140
3 of them tried to.
ruferto
how does one try to vote no?
Sebastopol140
The sentence was "could have stopped this abomination". They tried to stop it, 3 of them.
DarthTaz0
Or 3 of them were allowed to vote No to placate their purple districts because they knew they had the votes to pass it without them.
ServerMonkeyKing
This ... my guess is that it's all political theater and they made sure that Vance voted on it while hedging a handful of republican senator seats. I honestly don't count those swing votes as actual votes against it nor do I see them as actually reaching across the isle. They are all just playing the public perception while also getting what they want as a unified party.
fshnbluesman
May the entire GOP rot in fucking hell!!! trump has long had a special place waiting for him there!!! 🤬🖕
SilentScreamsX
Isn't this the bill that basically allows Trump to say "nah" the next time an election is due?
SalmonTheWise
It's the enabling act.
MyRespectableAlterEgo
No, there was a post going viral a while back that misrepresented a lot of the bill - I don't know why, because the truth is fucking heinous enough without a dusting of misinformation.
imgonnaralph
https://imgur.com/oe3PFJu.mp4
TobiOfTheAkatsuki
Huh, never thought I'd see an Avatar reference that didn't involve dogging on the movie for no reason. A pleasant surprise.
Omnislash9
I fucking love Avatar, +1
ReverseSyzygy
no.
**WE** will live with the horror - possibly for generations.
they are rather insulated from this tenmselves.
Whitebeardthepirate
and they won't care. they'll be too busy counting their money to think of what affects "the poors"
sirbartonslady
they would've been primaried if they stepped out of line, and besides, what do they care about the poors?
Imadethisaccounttopost
Someone said the bill was Byrds Rule and needs 60 https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/6/30/2330897/-Politico-reports-that-the-GOP-wooing-Murkowski-violates-Byrd-Rule-60-votes-not-50-will-be-needed
Darklinkinfinite
The pAlaska Medicaid provision was thrown out at the last minute but Murkowski still got enough to concessions to “agonizingly” still vote for it
Imadethisaccounttopost
Fuck, and now it goes back to the house?
Darklinkinfinite
yup where it also only passed by one vote the first time around
Imadethisaccounttopost
Sadly yep, wish there was a way to stall.
Darklinkinfinite
We could gather a mob and storm the capital. It didn’t turn out so bad for the guys that did it last time
CaptainQuarkk
We'll see if it passes the House again. The number of people here who don't seem to know how this works is saddening.
it only passed the house just barely. 215 yea, 214 nay, 1 pass.
It now has to pass the house again. Then the senate, if they make changes.
tentacularfleshscape
Ty for reminder, I'd actually forgotten
azazyel
That's what I thought, I mean MTG said she didn't read it the first time, maybe she will this time and not like it?
JT1984
MTG? Read? Good one.
ICantBelieveThisNeedsToBeSaid
That would have required a single one of them to have a spine or a shred of principles/morality. Those don't exist in the new world order the MAGAts have made
LoyalToTheEnd
It would have taken more than one. This is all pageantry allowing republicans in districts that may swing the ability to save their seats. They were allowed to vote no so long as they could hit 50-50 for the VP
Pervaroo
Yep, it sets up Vance as the bill's savior. It's a little cherry on top to raise his visibility and status.
SirKaill
Or when and if he "runs" for president in 2028 I hope it gets used against him
eion85
3 of the Republicans didn't vote for it.
OatmealChocolateChipCookies
Three Republican Senators were allowed to vote against it, so the bill would still pass.
wrincewind
they probably all drew lots to decide who'd be 'allowed' to vote no on it. disgusting.
Beleg7
To be fair, MAGA has spent the last decade plus driving everyone with any decency or courage out of any position of power in their party. They've done an amazing job of it.
VictusVonGuyver
I hate that John McCain was someone I wouldn't have supported, but as flawed as he was, he still had good intentions. Trump politically danced on his grave, shit on it, and demanded McCain's friends clap as he did so... And they did.
The party stopped trying to even be remotely moderate after that. So much so they started attacking his military record. I didn't even like the guy and I found myself having to defend the dudes record from MAGA supporters. Ridiculous.
Leaveittojebus
McCain, Romney, Liz Cheney, even 2 term W Bush, former GOP elite, now pariah in the new MAGA order. Hell Pence was his VP fist term and they had the gallows ready to hang him.
Leaveittojebus
First*
digitalagriculture
MAGA is not new or anomalous, it's who Republicans have always been. They've just been more direct about it since 2016 because they realized they didn't need to speak in coded language.
Deoxyribonucleicacidwashedgenes
As a non-American, what I don't get is why a gov of either party puts forth these bills that do something over like, 30+ years. As soon as any other admin gets in they'll just pass something different. Why don't all the bill do what they want them to in less than 4 years?
AliasPR
From mine understanding: the US presidency is nothing short of untreated bipolar disorder. Because of this, current presidents try to set forth bills that extend further than 4 years to try and get some kind of progress done. Or to hinder the next president. It's also a constant game of whack-a-mole, doing away legislation that the current party finds bad. Republicans also love to use this delayed poison pit to spring on the next dem president, then run the hive mind to demonize Dems.
phobosorbust
The standard for comparison is ten years using numbers crunched by OMB. Back when we had the thin veneer of civil discourse, one could look at the OMB projections for different versions of a bill or different policy papers by candidates and get a rational, equal-basis comparison of consequences.
This was in part to debunk arson-grade tax cut plans that would show massive benefits for two years and then gut the IRS and cripple the entire federal government in four or five.
phobosorbust
IIRC, the beginning of the end was Rand Paul's use of a magic asterisk in his healthcare projections. Basically his policy paper forced the OMB to use assumptions they disagreed with, which generated the headlines he wanted and the perception of partisan leanings to cast himself as a victim of the big bad leftists. Sane people who could stay awake through the weaponized c-span discussion saw through this, but that's not exactly a thick slice of the population.
TonawandaBlue
Because Republicans are cowards.
BellsTheorem
*bought.
xedd82
Nah. Americans are cowards. Put an amendment in the constitution in order to stand against tyranny, then don’t use it. Fucking sheep.
DaierMune
Little too early on that. Give it another couple of years. Things are gonna start getting bad.
digitalagriculture
They're not cowards, they want this and have wanted this for decades.
IslaNublar
Yeah, I'm REALLLLLLLLLY tired of people dismissing every thing in this shitshow as "they're cowards/spineless", as if Trump is the only reason this is all being done. He's a dipshit that shits/pisses his pants, has a 5th grade level vocab, and literally spaces out, repeatedly walks towards walls (until he's grabbed by Johnson), and garbles his words often. He's the useful idiot puppet. The GOP is actually running the show. It's like saying Hitler was solely responsible for everything...
IslaNublar
the Nazis did, and thinking all of his generals et al were just "spineless cowards" that went along with everything he wanted to do and had no hand it in themselves.
WrongUn
It's doesn't seem so much as cowardice as it does malice. Why do positions of power draw some of the worst of our species?
TheDoctorCrankenstein
Because of its hierarchical structure that allows them to have power over those who they see as "lesser" while guaranteeing them the ability to enrich themselves through their control over economic forces.
SonnyVabitch
cunts
beeeeeeerkaaaaa
*pussys and led by the biggest one of all.
MechKelly
Maybe a bit. But they're cruel, sadistic, malicious, greedy, and devoid of empathy also.
Awmph
they need to grow more afraid of Americans than of Trump.
members of Congress should live in fear for their careers
Lovingimpaler
They're in on the gag, which involves voting system tampering. You either get on the bus or get fucked.
RaxianTheta
you mispelled nazi's, but you can have an upvote anyway
inkpod
And Republicans always greatly increase spending while somehow blaming Democrats
MortimerMango
who were the 3 that did flip?
Mohareb
lisa murkowski, or however the name goes, was one of them
eion85
No, I don't think she was.
Iblamemyparentstoo
She was the deciding vote! Had she voted no JD Vance would not get to vote.
eion85
Well, when it's 50/50 EVERY vote is the deciding vote. Don't let the other 49 assholes off the hook.
Iblamemyparentstoo
No shit, but had she voted no it wouldn't have passed and the fact that her deal with trump to vote yes was yanked right out from under her so not only did she sell out the American people but she was made a fool of on top of it!
Iblamemyparentstoo
LitterBoxKing
She voted FOR it.
Mohareb
Yes. She flipped from NOT voting for it to voting for it.
eion85
Three Senate Republicans joined Democrats in voting against the legislation: Susan Collins of Maine, Rand Paul of Kentucky and Thom Tillis of North Carolina.
lackinglife
What's weird is I just assume Paul wanted it to be worse
MortimerMango
federal debt/deficit spending is one thing he's reasonably consistent on
eion85
Oh he does.
Ikwilstroopwaffels
Make sure to hold up a sign about it. That'll teach 'em.
Elroydb
>Says protest is worthless
>Looks inside
>lives in Europe
Ikwilstroopwaffels
Am from the US originally
Am trans
Am terrified to return home
Fuck you
eion85
The Democrats delayed the passage of this bill, and used their knowledge of Senate rules to strip out some harmful provisions. The bill wasn't subject to filibuster so there are limits to how much they could delay.
The now well tarnished bill has to pass the House again, and that's not certain by any means.
That's a pretty good day in the minority.
apLundell
Still, it's a shame they decided supporting Israel was more important than winning the presidency.
eion85
And it's also a shame that some voters opposed to the genocide decided voting for the lesser of two evils wasn't the best possible choice.
I think had Harris won she'd likely be doing far more to oppose the genocide than Trump is. Not enough, but something.
J3lek
It's not certain, but it's likely
eion85
It won't get less likely just surrendering.
Housemaster
Discouraging a form of protest makes me wonder what your motive is
ThomasTheWankEnglne
SilentScreamsX
Because peaceful protests are exactly what those in power want you to do. Peaceful protests are easy to ignore. Why do you think we've had the idea drilled into us that peaceful protesting is the "right" way to do it.
Ikwilstroopwaffels
Protests are great! But they alone do nothing. Remember everything that changed after Occupy? or BLM? Oh, right, fuck all. A protest is a threat. If the protest fails to force the change you seek, you move beyond protest. People are literally dying due to America's apathy.
50m31AW
A protest does not work unless it causes, or threatens to cause, some sort of harm, be it financial, emotional, political, etc if the demands are not met. You hold a sign and yell? They'll ignore you until your voice is hoarse and keep doing things you'll need to yell about. MLK was nonviolent, but his protests worked bc the public saw that the alternative was Malcom X advocating Black ppl arm themselves to overthrow their oppression "by any means necessary." You sign a petition? They'll wipe 1/
50m31AW
their ass with if you're lucky, unless you've got prior examples of what you did last time a petition was ignored. At worst they'll thank you for self assembling a list of enemies for them. These are fascists. You cannot negotiate or yell fascism away. You have to make them fear consequences for their actions to get rid of them. And so far they keep doing the shitty fascist things no matter how many signs we hold up 2/2
KoalaOnTheJuice
Well America. You had a good run.
benc85
shhhhhhh... ut up, you prat.
read a book about american history.
theworldcouldbeflat
1942 to 1963 was it for them.
truthader
All the potential in the world.
Kerrinai
no we fucking didn't
kiara8942000
Did we though? I just see a LOT of atrocities. Like a lot a lot...
TheMightyMollusk
Not in my lifetime, we didn't.
DaierMune
*looks at our nation's history* did we, tho?
DangerTrain
So I keep hearing.
DanOrtega
Ask manifest destiny's affected countries what we think about that run.
Cheerfulinsanity
This is gonna sound weird, but the fact that people keep saying this as things get worse gives me faith that there are still people who believe it isn't over yet. One advantage we have today that Germany didn't is ease of communication. It's not as easy to isolate the good people, and it's not as easy to make people believe there is nobody left who is still fighting. Just an idle thought, I live in New Zealand so we're only feeling the ripples, not the waves
keystotheairlock
I think you may have been looking at only one side of things. It's been a bloodstained murdering shit show since the 1500's.
amoeba15
The US didn’t exist in the 1500s
torisenblack
They were sure raping, murdering, and infecting my native ancestors like they owned the place by then, even before the "birth of the country"
thetonestarr
It's not over yet. BBB still has to pass House approval again. It probably will without changes, but still.
StarmineRendezvous
If we ignore the fact that we've lived off destroying countries all over the world and installing dictators who commit genocide, sure.
Beezlebubble
We learned from the best...
flexsidepick
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KoalaOnTheJuice
Meh. Standard procedure for the reigning global hegemon in fairness. We've all got China throwing its weight around to look forward to next.
dombot
Yup, people are gonna miss pax Americana
KoalaOnTheJuice
Don't know about that now.
casualgenderquestion2718
We will?
TheBlackSonOfTheHonestMan
..... no we won't...
Goldensands
BigDaddysMeatWagon
I hope the red states get everything they voted for.
Neuronyx
Unfortunately it means i'm getting everything they voted for too so.
ricpaul
I think you mean you hope all voters get what they voted for. Then I agree wholeheartedly
digitalagriculture
Do you believe red states consist only of Republicans?
Thornaxe
Those who didn’t vote for trump are effectively hostages.
And the more we negotiate with hostage takers, the more hostages they take.
PTK74
No, but clearly the red states haven’t been hit hard enough with these policies. As they keep on voting these fuckers back in office. Soo, they need to feel the vote.
BellicoseAlgorithm
At least the leopards will be well fed.
MorrighanWolf
Because of how this country works there's literally multiple states where democrats out number republicans more than 2 to 1 & Republicans still hold power cause it's fecking rigged.
mattadore
I don’t. I live in one.
pixelsnader
I hope the red voters get everything they voted for?
Moose79
So do I, and I hope the people who voted for this die a slow, horrible death. Everyone who voted for a better future, i feel bad for, and I hope yall are okay.
DejDek
I do too, and immediate impact on themselves is all the red cunts understand.
The only way we’re getting them to change is if they suffer immensely or if the lefties band together and start putting down the rabid red dogs.
There’s no other options.
lordnequam
I imagine all most of the will "understand" is that they'll be told Biden and the Democrats are responsible for whatever bad thing happens to them as a result of this.
DejDek
Then it’s time for a euthanasia drive.
imnotinthewitnessprotectionprogram
If you come live in eastern Washington, it’s like living in a red state in the middle of a blue state
gamejeepboi
Oh, Spokane. Doing their best to lower local taxes, then blaming their crumbling infrastructure, failing public works, and countless potholes on Seattle. Classic.
imnotinthewitnessprotectionprogram
Common spokanistan greeting: “Got any meth?”
Iblamemyparentstoo
Ganooballis
In their eyes it’ll all be worth it since it’s affecting CA so hard compared to other states, relatively
Iblamemyparentstoo
Texas too
killergrooves85
50,000 dead Americans per year because of this bill according to two separate university studies.
t55mn7pdp74
This really is insane
Emergency room costs are about to skyrocket
How are we this fucking stupid as a society
Iblamemyparentstoo
This bill will close hospitals so good luck finding one
MattTheImperialRadarTechnician
I think Alaska got an amendment that it wouldn't be included in all the shitty parts of the bill.
killergrooves85
They get token exemptions. It doesn’t exempt them entirely and a lot of the stuff hits later just the same. It’s going to do serious damage to Alaska, too, but it gives Murkowski to say “Look what I did for you! Vote for me!” but she didn’t do much.
VictusVonGuyver
Well. That's if you can trust this fickle administration.
Iblamemyparentstoo
andwings2go
Wow!!! An entire state said “Fuck you, got mine!”
Pseudobatrachotoxin
Nope, just the senate reps that voted. That states reps should live in infamy for selling out the rest of the country.
andwings2go
Still ultimately the voters, why does bright blue Washington State have so many R’s representing them?
Iblamemyparentstoo
She was the deciding vote!