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dariaeightyseven
true that.
uflepufle
Might wanna get da fuk outta that 3rd world country you live in then :)
1337hacker
As a European I see this development with great concern. Best luck to the young generation!
LobsterRollerskates
As a Gen X, I think baby boomers suck shitballs. Fucking draft dodging hippy tools. I feel really fuckin bad for Millenials. Good luck.
Themidge22
Lousiana has a great program called tops. They pay for public school in state tuition. Undergrad was debt free.
ihopenoonehasthisusername69
As a freshman in college..please stop reminding me.. I'm trying to be happy for at least 3 more years
rhabea
It's easy, people. Just stop being poor. Or get rich parents. Either works.
hypostatic
If only poor people would realize that all their problems would be solved if they just stopped being so damn poor!
Gamerdog6482
Easy solution: just buy more money.
captainjuicydog
it feels good to be australian..... STRAYA!!!!
hardytardigrade
VOTE. Vote for candidates that support public programs, not ones that demonize things that benefit anyone except the rich as "socialism".
ReptilianOverlord
Subsidizing education is mostly responsible for the current problems. Years ago you could go to college without taking out loans.
I'd say it's linking subsidy of education to profiteering that has increased tuition rates so much. We need a real public system.
DameyC
College seems counter productive. you go $1000's in debt just to get a good paying to to get out of said dept, does that make sense?
CountVorkosigan
You also get better job security than being a taxi driver or construction worker.
swizec
"But I need this second job to afford all the coffee I drink so I can stay up all night working this job!", ~ Fry
Current USA student loan debt: approximately 1 TRILLION dollars. Let me show you how many zeroes that is -- 1,000,000,000,000!
shadowex3
For the record there's now more student loan debt than anything else in the country. We've utterly destroyed a generation.
WaitWuut
I wish we could have a national conversation about this.
fanha
As a person who was a college student five years ago and hires them now, most college students don't know crap and whine too much.
Somebody hired you.
planetNasa
"Most"
whoah
When I was your age I got a job with nothin but moxy and heart! I was like that Rudy boy from the football movie!
BevanWalling
this is exactly the point he's trying to make.
That was my point?
JustADumbRename
Back in my day... when unskilled workers could get a job as a sales clerk and afford a fucking house.
Euthanized
I am an unskilled worker that works retail and I paid my house off by 35.
"Wanted: College degree 4+ years experience. Minimum wage, part time, must have flexible hours."
This is an "entry level" job also
I'm studying engineering, you'd be surprised how many fucking companies want to pay 35k/year and make you work 60+ hrs/week.
Everybody wants a slave, & since the job market ain't hot (even though the "economy" is recovered) there's people willing to work for crumbs
aguywithabike
That's cute. I'm British, so I pay back 9% on any income above £21,000 when I get a jo'
complimentpin
yup, this.
fitizen90
thats cute. i make apron 40k a year and I'm taxed at close to 18/19%
InsertCleverNickname
Yea, we do that here in America too. It's called taxes.
DoNotFeedTheDancingBear
How in the world do you only pay 9% tax?
I meant the general act of paying the government a portion of our income.
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AdorableEvil
Wait, working poor or just poor?
HAH! right?!
aus4000
I think the government just prints more money.
WFFFR
Don't go to college, get a trade, if you're really smart you'll prosper. University is just another business model taking $$ from people.
brownsugarbk
@conspiracytheory
pinkfuzzybunny
Disagree. Go to college, but be smart about it.
10footpole
I think that this is dangerous advice. Some people can and do flourish with a University degree. Just have to know what you are getting into
Jusmar
Or go to college to get into an advanced trade such as accounting or otherwise. Not art history or interpretative dance.
mynewestusername
If you are going to get a degree that isn't easy to find a job in, got to a good college. The connections you will make help a lot.
afrofrycook
No, clearly college is to find yourself! You're just being repressive.
Very true. Loans for interpretative dance for example is dumb. Can't pay it off.
arrowrootbiscuits
You can inform the bank in dance as to why you can't pay them.
zarikimbo
Went to college for Sheet Metal 1 year ago, Welding 4 years ago and still no jobs.
That's contrary to what I expected. Oil industry is booming supposedly, where are you?
Victoria BC. Any jobs that do come up are for way more experienced and certified people. Our government is a sack of shit.
Often true. Unfortunately some fucking places have requirements for them.
"them" being taking out a loan?
Wow I worded that badly. Some jobs require degrees.
don't know best answer, I just feel that too many young people get "sent" to Uni due to parents expectations etc and not best place for 'em
I totally agree. It's not a rite of passage, and if you don't know what you want to do, that is the worst way to find out.
(2) Just that I knew I wanted to work with computers, and in order to do that at the level I wanted to, I needed my degree.
i think if you know why you're going to college and what you want out of it you should be good. i want to be a doctor so i'm in college
My comment is about kids who don't know, just go b/c they are told to. No direction, get loans, get poor grades, get screwed.
(2/2) in the long run it will all be worth it
and i agree i am working my butt off to get into med school, while business and liberal arts majors are partying, but i know in the (1/2)
ok then that makes sense, and is very sound advice, you might want to include that. thank you for clearing that up! :)
Well 140 character thing becomes an issue sometimes. Good luck in pre-med.
thank you! and yes the limit is a problem
dariaeightyseven
true that.
uflepufle
Might wanna get da fuk outta that 3rd world country you live in then :)
1337hacker
As a European I see this development with great concern. Best luck to the young generation!
LobsterRollerskates
As a Gen X, I think baby boomers suck shitballs. Fucking draft dodging hippy tools. I feel really fuckin bad for Millenials. Good luck.
Themidge22
Lousiana has a great program called tops. They pay for public school in state tuition. Undergrad was debt free.
ihopenoonehasthisusername69
As a freshman in college..please stop reminding me.. I'm trying to be happy for at least 3 more years
rhabea
It's easy, people. Just stop being poor. Or get rich parents. Either works.
hypostatic
If only poor people would realize that all their problems would be solved if they just stopped being so damn poor!
Gamerdog6482
Easy solution: just buy more money.
captainjuicydog
it feels good to be australian..... STRAYA!!!!
hardytardigrade
VOTE. Vote for candidates that support public programs, not ones that demonize things that benefit anyone except the rich as "socialism".
ReptilianOverlord
Subsidizing education is mostly responsible for the current problems. Years ago you could go to college without taking out loans.
hardytardigrade
I'd say it's linking subsidy of education to profiteering that has increased tuition rates so much. We need a real public system.
DameyC
College seems counter productive. you go $1000's in debt just to get a good paying to to get out of said dept, does that make sense?
CountVorkosigan
You also get better job security than being a taxi driver or construction worker.
swizec
"But I need this second job to afford all the coffee I drink so I can stay up all night working this job!", ~ Fry
hypostatic
Current USA student loan debt: approximately 1 TRILLION dollars. Let me show you how many zeroes that is -- 1,000,000,000,000!
shadowex3
For the record there's now more student loan debt than anything else in the country. We've utterly destroyed a generation.
WaitWuut
I wish we could have a national conversation about this.
fanha
As a person who was a college student five years ago and hires them now, most college students don't know crap and whine too much.
WaitWuut
Somebody hired you.
planetNasa
"Most"
whoah
When I was your age I got a job with nothin but moxy and heart! I was like that Rudy boy from the football movie!
BevanWalling
this is exactly the point he's trying to make.
whoah
That was my point?
JustADumbRename
Back in my day... when unskilled workers could get a job as a sales clerk and afford a fucking house.
Euthanized
I am an unskilled worker that works retail and I paid my house off by 35.
CountVorkosigan
"Wanted: College degree 4+ years experience. Minimum wage, part time, must have flexible hours."
hypostatic
This is an "entry level" job also
ReptilianOverlord
I'm studying engineering, you'd be surprised how many fucking companies want to pay 35k/year and make you work 60+ hrs/week.
CountVorkosigan
Everybody wants a slave, & since the job market ain't hot (even though the "economy" is recovered) there's people willing to work for crumbs
aguywithabike
That's cute. I'm British, so I pay back 9% on any income above £21,000 when I get a jo'
complimentpin
yup, this.
fitizen90
thats cute. i make apron 40k a year and I'm taxed at close to 18/19%
InsertCleverNickname
Yea, we do that here in America too. It's called taxes.
DoNotFeedTheDancingBear
How in the world do you only pay 9% tax?
InsertCleverNickname
I meant the general act of paying the government a portion of our income.
[deleted]
[deleted]
AdorableEvil
Wait, working poor or just poor?
hypostatic
HAH! right?!
aus4000
I think the government just prints more money.
WFFFR
Don't go to college, get a trade, if you're really smart you'll prosper. University is just another business model taking $$ from people.
brownsugarbk
@conspiracytheory
pinkfuzzybunny
Disagree. Go to college, but be smart about it.
10footpole
I think that this is dangerous advice. Some people can and do flourish with a University degree. Just have to know what you are getting into
Jusmar
Or go to college to get into an advanced trade such as accounting or otherwise. Not art history or interpretative dance.
mynewestusername
If you are going to get a degree that isn't easy to find a job in, got to a good college. The connections you will make help a lot.
afrofrycook
No, clearly college is to find yourself! You're just being repressive.
WFFFR
Very true. Loans for interpretative dance for example is dumb. Can't pay it off.
arrowrootbiscuits
You can inform the bank in dance as to why you can't pay them.
zarikimbo
Went to college for Sheet Metal 1 year ago, Welding 4 years ago and still no jobs.
WFFFR
That's contrary to what I expected. Oil industry is booming supposedly, where are you?
zarikimbo
Victoria BC. Any jobs that do come up are for way more experienced and certified people. Our government is a sack of shit.
JustADumbRename
Often true. Unfortunately some fucking places have requirements for them.
WFFFR
"them" being taking out a loan?
JustADumbRename
Wow I worded that badly. Some jobs require degrees.
WFFFR
don't know best answer, I just feel that too many young people get "sent" to Uni due to parents expectations etc and not best place for 'em
JustADumbRename
I totally agree. It's not a rite of passage, and if you don't know what you want to do, that is the worst way to find out.
JustADumbRename
(2) Just that I knew I wanted to work with computers, and in order to do that at the level I wanted to, I needed my degree.
brownsugarbk
i think if you know why you're going to college and what you want out of it you should be good. i want to be a doctor so i'm in college
WFFFR
My comment is about kids who don't know, just go b/c they are told to. No direction, get loans, get poor grades, get screwed.
brownsugarbk
(2/2) in the long run it will all be worth it
brownsugarbk
and i agree i am working my butt off to get into med school, while business and liberal arts majors are partying, but i know in the (1/2)
brownsugarbk
ok then that makes sense, and is very sound advice, you might want to include that. thank you for clearing that up! :)
WFFFR
Well 140 character thing becomes an issue sometimes. Good luck in pre-med.
brownsugarbk
thank you! and yes the limit is a problem