hey. sure I can help you. but would you mind waiting a moment while I google the laws on this? please wait right there. if they want to advance while you've asked for space, I'm sure a lawyer can help. Just get on your phone and continue to ask them to please wait a minute. after that, its up to them to break the law. if them breaking the law means nothing, then ya know only street smarts can save you now.
The complicity to “just follow orders…” is what really gets it for me…and I don’t even smoke ganja…! The blind eye to a fellow human, that is “all in a day’s work…” is what will make the coming fascist state unbreakable for an age that will span the globe for generations…
LOL, so many boot lickers in the comments hiding behind the law. Oh wow, they found a whole entire pound of weed? FUCKING HEROES! THE WAR ON DRUGS IS OVER!
Completely illegal. 4th amendment. Fire those fucks, take their pensions and given it to the store owner whose rights were trampled. Will that happen? Fuck no. But it would in a just society.
great evoluution of usa image for a 70 yo french dude like me beetween my youth, 10, 15.. after ww2 and today;A myth died, a part of me to.. So sad, dear american people..
First off, fuck republicans like Giuliani, but I have bad news for you about democratic mayors in most major cities. They are some of the most corrupt fuckers around (Andre Dickens, Eric Adams, Jacob Frey, the guy in Chicago) and it really sucks that the people who look good in the mayoral elections always end up being so dishonest and corrupt.
Because in some states police are allowed to come in and inspect tobacco shops (as well as alcohol and gun shops) for compliance (such as having tax stamps, licenses, etc.) Those states do not require a warrant for the inspection and the owner would know that since they had to sign paperwork that stated as much in order to get the license. Therefore, the shop manager/owner should have told his employee the correct protocol.
Please provide basic info like when and where, and a reliable news source if possible. It’s the difference between rage bait and something we can actually use.
The regulatory inspection process was outlined in the 2021 state law legalizing cannabis use. A section of that law enshrines the right of individuals to refuse a regulatory inspection, though subjects them to a civil fine if they do so. Once a regulatory inspection is refused, then the Office of Cannabis Management (OCM) or its board must request a court order, the law says.
Since when do random inspections need 5 fucking cops going immediately into "We'll arrest you"? Should be an administrative worker with a single policeman escort and one outside on stand by feels like, this is mob shit man, even in proper context this comes off as wrong as hell.
If this is a 10 year old video where the police involved have all been fired, there's less for me to be concerned about, and less for others in their community to take action about. If it's here and now, action should be taken, and I'd want some follow up.
NYker here. Basic info means we can follow up and make sure these Bad Cops are punished. We can complain to our Councilman, and organize our neighborhoods. Do you want ACTION or is this just "ragebait"?
thats not what hes saying. hes saying dont trust your own eyes and ears, maybe its something else. just ignore the injustice..not sure what your message is, because yeah obviously contact authorities if you have their names. dont post it here. and dont discredit this w such obvious bullshit. bootlicker.
Unsourced ragebait weakens us...and may be propaganda. These days, when info is so freely available, I distrust ANYONE who holds back details. It costs nothing to provide a link. You should distrust them, too. Even when they seem to be on your side.
This video may be cut in some sort so viewers dont get all the information there is. Maybe the police did show him a warrant but it was cut out of the video. Who knows.
so they showed him a warrant and didnt mention it when he asked for a warrant? that makes fuckall sense. im all for valid skepticism but unwarranted not so much. if you cant come up with a valid scenaria this is just bootlicking
It's not okay at best... but how are you going to make use of the video other than for inducing anger without it? Is there any partly mitigating context that people will use as a 'gotcha' if you try and use it even for that?
Most of those have good details, context, and backing, making them useful for targetted action and protest, letting people know who precisely to get mad at, how you can take action, how we can reduce or prevent it in the future.
they dont. when you see pics of bombed buildings in ukraine or gaza there usually isnt more context and ppl rarely ask because they know the context. yet when you see cops breaking the law suddenly hordes of bootlickers go well achhhchually...
The irony that it's not balanced and it's false, because it's a cannabis shop in NYC where the inspection can be refused and a court order is needed if the inspection is refused.
Yeah, they can be searched for a regulatory purpose, not a criminal one. The shopkeeper can refuse the sudden inspection, but they are supposed to be fined, not arrested. Refusal to be searched requires a court order to be overridden. Any violation of their license results in civil charges, not criminal ones. So, your reply is misleading at best, and false at worst.
It would've been nice if the cops said that instead of threatening them, though. Maybe cite the specific law to prove to them that it is required to submit to inspection. Not saying it's not legally, just saying it was handled brutishly
Cops generally don't know much about laws. They're taught the absolute basics in law and a lot more in how to drive and use violence. My cousin and uncle are both cops. I've had to explain to both of them some very basic constitutional law and I'm not even a lawyer.
Yep that's my point, if they had actually been trained it would take 5 minutes in the squad car to do a quick memorization of the law that they couldn't name... even lawyers can't cite everything off the top of their head, they refresh themselves before they go to court. Those cops should do the same. Or should be REQUIRED to do the same, i really mean
Yeah constitutional law is basically the process of appealing the convictions of people who were unlawfully arrested and sentenced, often years after they've been in jail. And the lawyers doing that work make nothing compared to corporate lawyers. That's a pretty fucked system as opposed to training cops so they don't make illegal arrests to begin with.
The shopkeeper should have been aware of the law, but those cops had every opportunity to de-escalate the situation and explain in clear and simple terms what the law requires, but instead they were rude, hostile, and then physically aggressive. Anyone with any socials skills would have been able to handle that shopkeeper very easily. There's a culture of bullying and brutality in law enforcement, and this video illustrates that.
They could have told him what law they had the right to do the search under, but cops don’t need to know the law and they don’t need to tell the truth.
Damn, frankly as a Norwegian I'd feel safer going for a vacation in North-Korea, at least there a local law enforcement officer follows me around to make sure I don't get into this situation.
(And even as a Norwegian I'd rather go to North Korea, they have some truly spectacular geology and I won't get shot in a traffic stop. Nor will I get put in a police car on a railroad track and get hit by a train)
Violated civil and constitutional rights over a mere pound of weed. And they probably weighed it in the container it was stored in. REALLY making the streets safer -_-
CaptSchmidtGaming
hey. sure I can help you. but would you mind waiting a moment while I google the laws on this? please wait right there.
if they want to advance while you've asked for space, I'm sure a lawyer can help. Just get on your phone and continue to ask them to please wait a minute. after that, its up to them to break the law.
if them breaking the law means nothing, then ya know only street smarts can save you now.
mrd0dman0s
America, fuck yeah.
ToSisPoS
He looks like he could use a cord order shower.
DidItForScience
The subtitles make zero percent sense.
CaptSchmidtGaming
If you're in a position that you can arrest me. you don't need to ask me nicely.
fknbastard
This is not about safety. This is about shoring up overpriced weed at licensed dealers.
ki4clz
…a plant
all for a plant
Cannabis sativa, C. indica, and C. ruderalis
The complicity to “just follow orders…” is what really gets it for me…and I don’t even smoke ganja…! The blind eye to a fellow human, that is “all in a day’s work…” is what will make the coming fascist state unbreakable for an age that will span the globe for generations…
Three5Nines
ACAP
pothocket
LOL, so many boot lickers in the comments hiding behind the law. Oh wow, they found a whole entire pound of weed? FUCKING HEROES! THE WAR ON DRUGS IS OVER!
..fucking morons
8FootedAlgaeEater
I don't know what is going on here, or what the context is.
ThailandExpress
Spanky44
Completely illegal. 4th amendment. Fire those fucks, take their pensions and given it to the store owner whose rights were trampled. Will that happen? Fuck no. But it would in a just society.
CaptSchmidtGaming
look man. if you're just gonna do whatever you want. then why are you even talking to me?
p4r4d153
I didn’t even notice the door until it was opened
DarkJaeger
Lawsuit!!
mpjjt999
great evoluution of usa image for a 70 yo french dude like me beetween my youth, 10, 15.. after ww2 and today;A myth died, a part of me to.. So sad, dear american people..
Apeofdeath
ACAB
iusedtodream
More now than ever. Beware the police.
hereforcomete
1312 yes
NovemberAlphaMikeEcho
Wow 90% of these subtitles are absolutely worthless.
AlexanderReave
Just like the police.
electrobug85
The shopkeeper’s lawyer is named Steve Zissou :O
ziralien
.... inspections for what?
RenaissanceFaireMan
Penis inspection day.
randomwalrus
Free stuff they can stuff in their pockets.
Attritshun
SergeyPrkl
Why? You voted FOR this. That's why.
WhowasDariusRucker
First off, fuck republicans like Giuliani, but I have bad news for you about democratic mayors in most major cities. They are some of the most corrupt fuckers around (Andre Dickens, Eric Adams, Jacob Frey, the guy in Chicago) and it really sucks that the people who look good in the mayoral elections always end up being so dishonest and corrupt.
SergeyPrkl
So, they just are regular americans. Check!
thundercactus
It's NYC, pretty sure being corrupt af is a requirement to even run for mayor.
SergeyPrkl
like one that comes in mind, Rudy Giuliani
SometimesOthertimesAnytime
Because in some states police are allowed to come in and inspect tobacco shops (as well as alcohol and gun shops) for compliance (such as having tax stamps, licenses, etc.) Those states do not require a warrant for the inspection and the owner would know that since they had to sign paperwork that stated as much in order to get the license. Therefore, the shop manager/owner should have told his employee the correct protocol.
ThailandExpress
zanaria
Then police should have explained that properly, because doing otherwise looks to anyone else that they are breaking the law
Dansosaur
However as per section 132 [1(b)], you are within your rights to refuse the inspection at the risk of a fine. If refused, the officer must seek a court order and to acquire one, they must show that there is reasonable cause to suspect that the business may be operating illegally.
https://casetext.com/statute/consolidated-laws-of-new-york/chapter-cannabis/article-6-general-provisions/section-132-penalties-for-violation-of-this-chapter
BisquiteenTrisket
oh my god, the lawyer defending him is named Steve Zissou ?!?
historymemesandstuff
"No let's not calm down" way to de-escalate buddy
roboirishrumpelstiltskin
Jumping on the fucking counter. Wonder which week of training that was
Snezko
alright let's not calm down then *pulls a fucking RPG* shall we NOT calm down then bitch?!
ChelVanin
Please provide basic info like when and where, and a reliable news source if possible. It’s the difference between rage bait and something we can actually use.
Metallica93
Fucking thank you.
rjkardo
https://www.thecity.nyc/2024/06/03/video-nypd-cannabis-raid-adams-hochul/
The regulatory inspection process was outlined in the 2021 state law legalizing cannabis use. A section of that law enshrines the right of individuals to refuse a regulatory inspection, though subjects them to a civil fine if they do so. Once a regulatory inspection is refused, then the Office of Cannabis Management (OCM) or its board must request a court order, the law says.
The cops were out of line here
WhenWillThenBeNowSoon
If it’s in America and they do not provide a search warrant then we don’t need to see much else. Also, very easy to find this article.
roboirishrumpelstiltskin
Yeah it's also easy to post a source on this website
CPTBRUMBL3Z
Since when do random inspections need 5 fucking cops going immediately into "We'll arrest you"? Should be an administrative worker with a single policeman escort and one outside on stand by feels like, this is mob shit man, even in proper context this comes off as wrong as hell.
backrideup9
Cops walk into every situation just waiting to threaten arrest to get what they want. Been that way for decades.
Someshithead241
I count seven.
RawSuger
what when and where would make this ok?
BobDaBilda
If this is a 10 year old video where the police involved have all been fired, there's less for me to be concerned about, and less for others in their community to take action about. If it's here and now, action should be taken, and I'd want some follow up.
RawSuger
ok so then its ok if its 10 years old? what makes you think they'd be fired?
ArcaneConjecture
NYker here. Basic info means we can follow up and make sure these Bad Cops are punished. We can complain to our Councilman, and organize our neighborhoods. Do you want ACTION or is this just "ragebait"?
RawSuger
thats not what hes saying. hes saying dont trust your own eyes and ears, maybe its something else. just ignore the injustice..not sure what your message is, because yeah obviously contact authorities if you have their names. dont post it here. and dont discredit this w such obvious bullshit. bootlicker.
ArcaneConjecture
Unsourced ragebait weakens us...and may be propaganda. These days, when info is so freely available, I distrust ANYONE who holds back details. It costs nothing to provide a link. You should distrust them, too. Even when they seem to be on your side.
AlphaMike999
This video may be cut in some sort so viewers dont get all the information there is. Maybe the police did show him a warrant but it was cut out of the video. Who knows.
RawSuger
so they showed him a warrant and didnt mention it when he asked for a warrant? that makes fuckall sense. im all for valid skepticism but unwarranted not so much. if you cant come up with a valid scenaria this is just bootlicking
AlphaMike999
Actually i dont care that much what seems to happen in america so.. yeah..
RawSuger
Exactly it was never about valid skepticism , just a weak cowardly excuse to ignore injustice
HiddenSanity
It's not okay at best... but how are you going to make use of the video other than for inducing anger without it? Is there any partly mitigating context that people will use as a 'gotcha' if you try and use it even for that?
RawSuger
kinda like vids of ever wrong/atrocity? if we cant stop them we should pretend they dont exist? wtf is your point
HiddenSanity
Most of those have good details, context, and backing, making them useful for targetted action and protest, letting people know who precisely to get mad at, how you can take action, how we can reduce or prevent it in the future.
RawSuger
they dont. when you see pics of bombed buildings in ukraine or gaza there usually isnt more context and ppl rarely ask because they know the context. yet when you see cops breaking the law suddenly hordes of bootlickers go well achhhchually...
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AlackofPotassiumcankill
Shameful to just show up and not carry the paperwork like a real professional admin.
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
Stop making balanced assessments with your "knowledge" and "facts"
Corin
The irony that it's not balanced and it's false, because it's a cannabis shop in NYC where the inspection can be refused and a court order is needed if the inspection is refused.
depressedscientist
Wouldn’t that be ATF though? Not the sheriff?
SometimesOthertimesAnytime
This.
ThatGuyWhoIsSkepticalOfEverything
Yeah, they can be searched for a regulatory purpose, not a criminal one. The shopkeeper can refuse the sudden inspection, but they are supposed to be fined, not arrested. Refusal to be searched requires a court order to be overridden. Any violation of their license results in civil charges, not criminal ones. So, your reply is misleading at best, and false at worst.
GravyEducation
It would've been nice if the cops said that instead of threatening them, though. Maybe cite the specific law to prove to them that it is required to submit to inspection. Not saying it's not legally, just saying it was handled brutishly
poundingCode
You used cops and nice in the same sentence. Was that intentional?
GravyEducation
Yes because I also said would've been, as in, don't expect it to be
kelmo
Thugs don't care about due process. Biggest gang in the United States.
Ninjainslippers
Cops generally don't know much about laws. They're taught the absolute basics in law and a lot more in how to drive and use violence. My cousin and uncle are both cops. I've had to explain to both of them some very basic constitutional law and I'm not even a lawyer.
GravyEducation
Yep that's my point, if they had actually been trained it would take 5 minutes in the squad car to do a quick memorization of the law that they couldn't name... even lawyers can't cite everything off the top of their head, they refresh themselves before they go to court. Those cops should do the same. Or should be REQUIRED to do the same, i really mean
Ninjainslippers
Yeah constitutional law is basically the process of appealing the convictions of people who were unlawfully arrested and sentenced, often years after they've been in jail. And the lawyers doing that work make nothing compared to corporate lawyers. That's a pretty fucked system as opposed to training cops so they don't make illegal arrests to begin with.
initforthespecs
The fact that there's no news link or anything else that's verified that'll give context is sus too. Rage bait and there're bites.
ghostly69
https://www.thecity.nyc/2024/06/03/video-nypd-cannabis-raid-adams-hochul/
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ChelVanin
All valid points, but i’d love to see their attitude and demeanor in other legal administrative searches, especially when it’s of someone whiter.
initforthespecs
@Scar1203 so it tirns out it's a weed shop, and according to this article, there's a section of the law where shopkeepers can refuse the search (tho them they are automatically fined) OP shouldve had this in the post https://www.thecity.nyc/2024/06/03/video-nypd-cannabis-raid-adams-hochul/
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andydicktracymorganfairchild
The shopkeeper should have been aware of the law, but those cops had every opportunity to de-escalate the situation and explain in clear and simple terms what the law requires, but instead they were rude, hostile, and then physically aggressive. Anyone with any socials skills would have been able to handle that shopkeeper very easily. There's a culture of bullying and brutality in law enforcement, and this video illustrates that.
ziralien
Hey. Found the bootlicker!
alloutofmondays
You must love the taste of boots.
They could have told him what law they had the right to do the search under, but cops don’t need to know the law and they don’t need to tell the truth.
Kreia
https://www.thecity.nyc/2024/06/03/video-nypd-cannabis-raid-adams-hochul/
WhenWillThenBeNowSoon
Wow! NYC mayor wants invest tax dollars and man hours to make sure you’re not selling a legal plant so others can sell the legal plant.
ghostly69
well, I suppose this is why the Major was pardoned, idn't it? Just saying
ronnyhugo
Damn, frankly as a Norwegian I'd feel safer going for a vacation in North-Korea, at least there a local law enforcement officer follows me around to make sure I don't get into this situation.
ronnyhugo
(And even as a Norwegian I'd rather go to North Korea, they have some truly spectacular geology and I won't get shot in a traffic stop. Nor will I get put in a police car on a railroad track and get hit by a train)
thundercactus
Violated civil and constitutional rights over a mere pound of weed. And they probably weighed it in the container it was stored in. REALLY making the streets safer -_-
coolusernameperson
You mean a half pound of weed
thundercactus
"pound" of "weed"
JustARandomFacelessExtraInTheMovieOfYourLife
Yes, they must impound all 7 grams
BoogiesOogie
Definitely need to tag the entire eighth
noodletooshort
Hope they don't forget to bag that stem of weed.