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The new Diablo game has already been renamed
Nov 4, 2018 3:48 PM
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TheosophicBlues
Truly, gamers are the greatest victims in the history of the universe.
RacistCoffee
Maybe the moral of the story is to not pay money to hear a sales pitch. You gotta be pretty fucking dumb to pay for ads.
youaresoverywrong
I like mobile games. Just like I like console and PC games. Variety is the spice of life and all that. But this is bullshit.
djdavid98
romicra88
Glad i quit WoW if this is the direction Activision is taking Blizzard.
ThreeLineRifle
As a Command and Conquer fan I know how they feel. Its not hard to know what the fans want and we don't ask for much.
Androsalecs
F
idieeverytime
I didn’t think the bar could get any lower. But I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised.
aykayem929
I'm not a huge Diablo fan, and I get that they are trying to spice it up but isn't Diablo one of their oldest games? It seems to me like 1/?
aykayem929
they should be maintaining the PC/console route because if they can do some crazy shit like this to one of their oldest franchises 2/?
aykayem929
they can do some really crazy shit later on. You wanna play WoW on a smart fridge? Cuz that's how you get WoW on a smart fridge.
EvilDeadTed
SuperSassySauce
Same thing happened with command and conquer
Ovenproof
Not exactly, C&C got mobile ONLY. Diablo has multiple teams working on projects, and this is filler that Blizzard studios didn't even make.
vanfem
Diablo Immortal is also mobile ONLY, and they never even slightly hinted at any other Diablo game in the works.
vanfem
EDIT: I actually found some mentions of "other diablo projects in the work"
doththouevenhoist
DickMercenary
Reminds me of when Valve announced the DotA digital card game and the entire crowd just groaned..
ThePiedPiperofRuination
I felt kind of bad for the announcer. He looked like he died inside when he would either get no reaction or booing.
stabthecrab
No one booed
ThePiedPiperofRuination
https://youtu.be/lUkPkOq4BdY 2:38. People booed when speaker confirmed the game would be mobile only.
stabthecrab
Well not in that video any way. So you gonna try it?
cjasso0601
Just want to make sure I understand this right. A game revered for its pc titles is strictly mobile this title? Nothing like freemium!
justherefortheshitposting
And it's a reskin of another P2W mobile game, "developed" by a reviled Chinese dev known for this sort of shitty MTX-vehicle shovelware.
cjasso0601
I didn't know all that. Can't believe it's come to all that
justherefortheshitposting
That's where the easy money is, and Activision is all about maximizing short-term profits. Welcome to no-foresight capitalism.
Raydeeo
I don’t think it looks too bad. *prepares for the downvotes*
justherefortheshitposting
It's a reskinned Chinese P2W mobile game that will 100% be full of MTX. I don't even like Diablo but this is fucking atrocious.
SomeGiantIdiot
https://imgur.com/9xdo5CZ.gif
GoodChange
It’s more that compared to the expectations, a proper new diablo to explore, a mobile version is a slap in the face to a room of pc gamers
Radix865
Yup, had they announced Diablo 4 for PC, and this mobile on the side, everyone would be cheering instead. Not for the mobile game obviously.
BoreasTheNorthWind
It's not that it looks bad. The problem is revealing a rather poor game idea as The Next Big Thing on The Big Event. And bad damage control.
seppdietrich
It looks fine, honestly. Most of this is "Gamers" pitching a fit because Blizzard dares to aim a product at someone other than them.
Raydeeo
My thought exactly..
justherefortheshitposting
They pitched it as a major release to a crowd full of PC gamers at a paid event, in a series that hasn't had a good game since 2000.
LoopStricken
It's a reskin of a pre-existing Chinese mobile game loaded with MTX. Who's going to be HAPPY with that announcement?
Sparkfish
Do you guys remember the Terrence and Phillip episode that came right after the Cartman's dad reveal cliffhanger? Blizzard does...
thegarlicawakens
Not Without My Anus
kraetos10
Here come the micro transactions ??
G3ologist
For anyone who wanted to see the shit show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRvDQQvdk44
Kopar
*throws up a little
talenphillips
LOL the chat changed mood so fast...
baronluke
I love after the mobile thing is revealed the go to the cinematic and you can hear the tiniest "ʷᵒᵒʰᵒᵒ"
ThousandBellHide
I would not be surprised if blizzard had a few paid hype men in the crowd to try and start a positive reaction
FajitaPrinceofAllMexicans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73yT9UXJLT0 Direct jump!
G3ologist
Thank you.
doryaa
When there are roughly 175M mobile gamers in China that potentially will pay money for your game, its a no brainer for a studio (1/3)
doryaa
even when they have to pay a heavy tax of something like 50% of revenue to a Chinese publisher. What they should have done (2/3)
doryaa
is to spin this like a supplemental game, like Fallout Shelter, to not anger their players (3/3)
JustSayingYouHaventSeenMeAndBatmanInTheSameRoomBefore
What they should've done is not announce it at Blizzcon to their most rabid fans who aren't even the target market for the game.
Irishda
I'd feel more sorry for diablo fans if there still wasn't a substantial portion doing Baal runs for the last 15 years
Fairemont
I've done so many Baal runs...
Sekai
I thought those were bots that someone just forgot to turn off
KanyeWesticularCancer
Now you Diablo fans know how us Silent Hill fans feel
TootInCommon
Animal Crossing fans too!!! :'( next year fingers crossed they don't let us down again
ilovecake
Have you been living under a rock? They announced AC is coming to Switch in 2019.
ilovecake
SkittishLittleToaster
Goddammit I'd almost forgotten the pain until you RIPPED THE WOUND OPEN AGAIN YOU MONSTER
retrocosmos
You just lost The Game.
ChiLLeCheeze
Konami lol. Suikoden has been gone too. Feels bad man.
Assholethecat
Goemon didn't even get that far
ChiLLeCheeze
Best times was playing that game with my brother on the SNES back in the 90s. He always had to carry the game cause I was so young.
WalhartTheConquer0r
Remember that time Konami wasted their resource on Castlevania pachinko porn instead of an actual Castlevania game?
Threadnomancer
No, this is nothing close. Konamis sins are unforgivable
SomeTallDude
AzraelDirge
Being a Metal Gear Solid fan is pretty heartbreaking too. Konami has all the assets to remake Snake Eater in Fox, and they make a slot game.
Assholethecat
I'm not a MGS fan but a big MGR fan and quietly canceling MGR2 and ZOE3 after they were announced still hurts.
brandsilven
Silent Hill had a mobile game made while they also worked on other entries to the series on main platforms?
SpecialProjectY
All 3 Silent Hill java mobile games were a fun pass time on my SE C905, but wouldn't make it a fully flagged game...
DatSEAsian4ever29
Sorry for this dumb question but what happened?
KanyeWesticularCancer
Konami began building hype for a new Silent Hill by releasing a playable teaser that was a massive hit. Suddenly they pivoted-
KanyeWesticularCancer
Cancelling the upcoming game and removing the playable teaser off the digital storefront meaning you can’t play it anymore. They suddenly-
KanyeWesticularCancer
Put all of their efforts into developing pachinko machines based on their IPs including silent hill. Essentially no more Metal Gear-
KanyeWesticularCancer
Or silent hill anymore. Just pachinko.
manulofdoom
Eh. They just announced to kill it, not to rape it to death and then to defile it corpse in front of it's children, like Silent Hill.
Assholethecat
As a Mega Man Legends fan...*sigh* pay us for a demo oops demo canceled as is game we blame fans from us at Capcom
Delta2Almanac
I'm afraid one of my favorite games will be next
Sharpteeth
Castlevania: Vampire Dressup
Tainted78
They already fucked Command & Conquer, so I thought that nothing else could hurt me. Then they brought a beaten, blindfolded Diablo out...
Royalbengaltiger
Fallout 76 is already gonna be terrible
Scornn
Doom Mobile
Bluetastic
Mass Effect: Tapdromeda
AzraelDirge
BioShock: Rapture Tap Tycoon
MGQ2718
Donkey Kong Country Run
Ghostshenanigans
Red dead redemption mobile game, Red Dead: On The Run.
Radix865
Well, we already got the console version of that so it wouldn't be nearly as big thing.
somethingawesomeandgreat
So we now condemn consoles too?
Radix865
No, I mean that it's already released on actual gaming platform. So the mobile version is just a "bonus" and you don't have to give a shit.
Xaldyn
Plot twist: we're all already in Silent Hill, our version of it being a world where Konami hates us.
Scornn
And Half life 3 fans.
andDontCallMeSurely
At least half life 2 hasn’t been turned into a pachinko machine.
Scornn
Haruhi season 3 never ;_;
usernamepolice
Was lookin for this
ThousandBellHide
I mean, at least they havevn't announced 'half life opposing farce' an exciting new mobile game.
Scornn
Wasnt mobile but remember Artifact?
ThousandBellHide
God dammit I had suppressed that memory...
SirSkellingtonBonerLord
here's mine
TheRealPhoenix
Stolen!
somethingawesomeandgreat
All right the Master Race, this game ain’t for you — it’s for those filthy casuals
SirPelvisJohnwood
Fair enough, but why announce it as the next Big Thing to a room full of hardcore PC gamers (who paid $200 just to be there)?
somethingawesomeandgreat
Where you would have announced it if it was up to you? Just asking
ilovebees
So would you have had them just go up and say "sorry we have nothing to announce for Diablo bye"?
Daemoneyes
Not at Blizzcon if i had nothing else to give them. Even Bethesda did get it right and announced TES before presenting TES mobile.
Sxualhrssmntpanda
Perhaps where their target audience is might be an idea?
somethingawesomeandgreat
It’s weird how blizzard staff of marketing/comms definitely thought this was the right place
justherefortheshitposting
In a Chinese ad campaign, because the only people gonna play it are the whales already paying MTX in Netease games.
CleatPeddlingMinion
I really only like Diablo 2. The third one was, to me, a prettier ripoff of the game but with more convoluted gameplay.
Selerox
Try Path of Exile. Huge amount of content and waaaay more in-depth.
LetMeGoogleThatShtForYou
The simplified the game to reach out to bigger audience, made it more brighter and ended up as a twighlight fckfest
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iheartdonut
I've only ever played the first Diablo on PC and PS1. My heart still goes out to the fans.
AlCoolAJ
Hellfire was done by Sierra, not Blizzard North, which is why the quality dropped. D3 plays like a twinstick shooter more than an action RPG
CleatPeddlingMinion
No, never got the chance.
aptatlas
They’re going where the money is. Shocker.
McMunchly
Not a surprise, but we also don't have to respect them for doing so
7thEraJin
It's a super obvi cash grab pitched to the wrong audience. No wonder they got backlash. Its like trying to sell a lawnmower at a car show.
TheS4ndm4n
Selling a diesel pickup truck at a Greenpeace rally.
swagb98623
Selling a Tesla to the Amish
WalhartTheConquer0r
Selling cold cuts at a vegan restaurant
couldhavebeenabaggins
That's it I'm going to start a discord for diablo 2 and maybe 3 fans. Anyone up for a game
InOtterSpace
Yeah I'll take a dm for that discord invite, still play d2 regularly
couldhavebeenabaggins
Will send you a message shortly
LetMeGoogleThatShtForYou
d2 hell yeah
couldhavebeenabaggins
Just message me and I will set it up
ScrabtabularScruff
Try the Median XL mod for D2.
couldhavebeenabaggins
I will look into it and are you up for it
ScrabtabularScruff
Nah, got work and rdr2 to play through. But yeah, median xl is D2 x 1000. Loved it back in the day.
couldhavebeenabaggins
Well if you change your mind message me i am also playing rdr2
B300
Median XL is awesome I’ve been playing it for almost a year now. Supposed to be coming out with an “expansion” of sorts soon I believe
brandsilven
Don't you get it? This mobile game apparently retroactively changed Diablo 2 and 3 into mobile games!!
Burneraccount1001001100
I've never played a Diablo game. But I feel so bad for the fan base rn like hot damn that sucks
jollyjuggalo
I have. This is horse shit.
parwashere
We don't want much maby a new class but this... Last year y'all said you got nothing this year after this I want last year's response
Zephyrino
I would have settled for a new class and been ok with it. But I mean come on man
trollprozac
I played the previous 2 but never got super into them. But yeh I feel bad for the fans.
ChiLLeCheeze
Companies call gamers entitled. But aren't they the entitled ones who think they are entitled to my business?
ghsdkgb
Those same people tell their retail workers "the customer is always right"
NexiKuro
Don't feel bad. This thing was made by a separate dev team, Blizzard still has the main team working on a Diablo title.
calvinblanes
They kinda deserve it for allowing Diablo 3
CaptSchmidtGaming
you watch temp0 stream?
Butane9000
It's clearly the red headed step child of current blizzard products.
Ghost0fDawn
You dont have to be a franchise fan to know the pain of having your game ripped from its platform for mobile. RIP Diablo and C&C
SecretlyThreeDucksInAManSuit
My feelings exactly
lloydbn50
Thank you, die hard fan since diablo 2.
Assholethecat
Get Diablo III. Great fun.
imredheaded
No reason to feel bad. They still have other Diablo projects (likely D4) being worked on. This is a side-game with more story
goatamon
I do play Diablo and people need to get a fucking life. D4 is still in the works. All anyone has to do is not play the mobile game.
Drougals
I think most people are jist making fun of the poor pr. Not acfually angry
goatamon
Oh man you should sew the diablo subreddit.
Drougals
I tend to stay away from the subredits during these times. You see the worst of people. I feel bad for witcher fans just now though
BatmanIPad
U r missing out brah.... Diablo is like skyrim in my days.... Epic game...
kohrah
Don't. It's not like this is diablo 4.
Burstapples
As someone who attended and doesnt avidly play diablo, i thought it was hilarious but i still agree that it sucks
Deepcethree
Play Diablo II. It’s cheaper these days and a fantastic game imo.
XenosGuru
I am a fan and am excited for this game... I guess I’m just an optimistic person?
InRetrospectIShouldveLearnedToSwimBeforeBecomingaSailor
All I want is D3 offline mode so I can actually take it to work :(
Rockageddon
20 yrs in the making for this one button flappy bird version. They would have enough money for a space program if they just remade Diablo 2.
Rockageddon
Diablo 3 was a dumpster fire, my non-gamer lady got bored because it was too easy... I tried so hard to love it, now this?
hetriedtokillmewithaforklift
I recognise this scene from both Dungeon Keeper and Evil Genius. It's so fucking saddening.
Ohboyididit
Just out if touch with the community
uplock
It's like a combat boot to the face after having to endure Jay Wilson and his D3 horror show.
stonebone000
You have to try diablo 2
whakalaka
Such a really good game. Great history.
TheDivineUsersub
Same. A lot of gaming communities are getting shafted hard by corporate bullshit...
ProbablyDrunkAgain
When over half the global market is mobile, you're an idiot not to be in that market to drive business towards PC and console.
ivylizard
Sad but true. However, their mistake was misunderstanding their fanbase and pitching this game to a room full of fans of the PC game.
ProbablyDrunkAgain
They knew damn well they'd piss off the vocal minority which will get the silent majority interested enough to try it. Ya'll getting played
dangerousDoc
Its almost as bad as the command and conquer fanbase getting fucked with a mobile rts at e3
Beeoneack
And C&C 4
CaptainTrips1980
I think I have PTSD from that horror that was that game. So disappointing.
TanDumpLord
They're some great games! You should try 'em :)
Tarmaccian
Both of them are great!
TanDumpLord
Hehe yup
HoleyNutSack
Try diablo mobile while you’re at it lol
MostLikelyPooping
But tell us how it is lol
OutoftheDarknessIntotheLight
I've loved everything Blizzard has ever done. I get why they'd do this for larger gaming markets, but it's not appealing to long time gamers
InRetrospectIShouldveLearnedToSwimBeforeBecomingaSailor
Yeah this really wasn't the place to pitch it.
OutoftheDarknessIntotheLight
Too much "You'll love this!" not enough "we're doing this, in the meantime. You might like it."
InRetrospectIShouldveLearnedToSwimBeforeBecomingaSailor
Exactly. I doubt there'd have been much negativity if they'd gone into detail about their plans & then finished with "and while you wait 1/
InRetrospectIShouldveLearnedToSwimBeforeBecomingaSailor
you might like to check out our mobile game". Although that being said it is just a reskin of a chinese game already out. 2/2
MufinMcFlufin
Figured I'd try out Diablo 3 and got it on Switch. Hopped on ship to immediately find out the ship is now sinking.
AlCoolAJ
Honestly the top 3 action RPGs for me are Diablo 1&2, Grim Dawn, and Dungeon Siege 1&2. Can play them again at anytime and still have fun!
kohrah
That's 5 games
AlCoolAJ
Naaaaaah
SpaceTurd69
bruh. if you wanna get into the diablo world, get D2 remastered.
SpaceTurd69
*D2 hd edition. it's on bnet.
Assholethecat
Game is really fun. Not played on Switch but on PS4. I'm like Paragon 80 or something. Oh and start on hard.
Assholethecat
The game is super easy even on hard until you reach the middle to high torment levels does it offer real challenge.
SantasSpecialBeamCannon
Play it and have fun with it until you're bored! It's still a fun game until the repetition wears on you. Not a good long term game.
M4rt1nV
Eh, the D3 ship is still doing well. Not great, but well enough.
Aulophobia1
sinking and on fire
Rockageddon
I have a usb the has Diablo 2 (expansion ver) and a key generator. Bringing that to any pc party is a fucking riot. Diablo 3 IS the mobile
Rockageddon
version of a waaayyyy better game. And now they are making a mobile version of a mobile version.
ManaSin
RIP. Well, Path of Exile still exists and it's free to play and receives new content every 3-4 months. It's a similar kind of game.
Assholethecat
PoE is fun. I even likes Victor Vran and if we go old school . Record of Lodoss War on Dreamcast is Diablo Souls basically.
TheNLK
PoE is the real Diablo 3.
SantasSpecialBeamCannon
You're getting downvoted but PoE is totally worth checking out and seems to be updated regularly.
experiencemike
After playing Diablo, I've learned POE is better. More class customization
Istealfromthefrontpage
Ya I think delve was a good addition to change things from just mapping.
Istealfromthefrontpage
They also dont add stuff to the core game cause they want to. Player feedback determines that.
SantasSpecialBeamCannon
That's pretty cool! I'd imagine people would be more chill about a mobile port for D3 if Blizz listened to their D3 fanbase more.
WolnyLogin
I was finishing primary school when Diablo came out. We had a party at school. It was the first chance in my life to dance with a girl. 1/2
Assholethecat
Yeesh. I was in my second year of Jr High when Diablo 1 came out.
WolnyLogin
I was really impatient, couldn't think about anything else and was very nervous. You know, palms sweating etc. Finally I've made my mind2/3
WolnyLogin
I left the party and literally ran home before the sun went down. Installed the game. I started as a sorcerer. Best decision in my life. 3/3
McMunchly
11/10
MtotheK
Some devs will definitely lose their jobs....
gtmiller
No they won't. Going to guess they were banking on Asia.
stiggypa
Nah, this is going to make a ton of money in Asia. They should have just announced it over there, and not blizzcon.
klean9
No one will lose jobs if it makes a lot of MONEY
somethingawesomeandgreat
Company’s decisions not those devs. They do what they are told to do.
STARWARSjustkeepsgettingworsesince1983
no they wont, devs make what the suits tell them to. its their fault, not the devs
Jeutnarg
Ah, but who decides who gets fired?
junk4u
Yeah, but the devs will get laid off when the game inevitably tanks.
gtmiller
It won't, Asia.
somethingawesomeandgreat
Who knows if it sells 700 million copies in asia. This is for Chinese market
AvgWhiteShark
Agreed. This game isn't for us. This is supposed to be the first diablo game for the current 13 yr olds. Also, this will take off over seas.
MoistTowelettez
Doesnt matter. When shit hits the fan the devs get shit for it either from executives or us.
gtmiller
It won't. Asia will eat this up. Same studio that made Overwatch launching a mobile? It will make quota on that. Double if its a good mobile
srsfaceI8C
Shit rolls downhill, friend. You could say the same thing for Telltale and they basically shuttered their doors while bigwigs got paid.
gtmiller
Not the same. Blizzard is reading the market,, Telltale made super nieche games. Shame Wolf Amoung us was good.
srsfaceI8C
It is the same in the sense it's the bean counters making the decision, not the devs. If it doesn't pan out, the devs will get blamed.
gtmiller
Yeah I know. I was suggesting that this is not nearly as tone deaf. The Activision part doesn't care if NA likes it. Asia will go nuts.
holymanbatbatman
it's a reskin of an exsiting Chinese game. It'll take like 1 dude a couple weeks to do the changes
JeffTeck
Nope, its not a reskin. People said that because of the UI which is the same, but its the same in other games too.
ICantThinkOfAU
... all I take away from “it’s the same in lots of games” is that this company makes lots of reskins. Which they do.
JeffTeck
Blizzard? Or NetEase
DerRattenfngerVonHameln
Wow. That's a special kind of evil.
MisterMayor
It is?
FastF0x
Of course not.
jetah
netease (app store). crusaders of light. even the chinese hate netease; worse than we hate EA.
justherefortheshitposting
Yep. It was developed by Netease (a Chinese dev reviled for P2W mobile games) and has the exact same UI as one of their other titles.
Lichelf
Its a very common ui for mobile games though.
spookyS
Read this comment a lot since last night, which game did they reskin tho?
SirPelvisJohnwood
I've heard it's really similar to Endless of God. Haven't looked at it myself, though.
AtomIndigo
Crusaders of light. Not really a reskin, but close enough to make it obv that this is a no thought cash grab.
spookyS
To me this isn't not even like calling lol a reskin of dota, but calling lol a reskin of smite, the crusaders thing looks completely differe
spookyS
-nt than the new diablo game :/
CrypticRuin
Path of Exile has always been better than D3, fight me!
AlCoolAJ
Grim Dawn is my Diablo 3! I don't get why people were even excited for a new Diablo announcement. Blizzard North has been gone for a decade+
XPoopingCommentsX
I second your comment. POE is better in every expect. Change my mind.
BreakfastWithCountChocula
I just checked it on Steam and looks like I already have it. WTF? Don't remember getting it. Oh well, time to try it I guess. :)
dal42
Even quinn69 had a PoE shirt on, when he commented on the show. Pretty strong message :)
berkay
yes it has.. loved it from the start but dat desynch tho
CrypticRuin
They fixed that a long time ago
Laxeey
Personally I like Torchlight 2 the most.
Spankywylde
While not a Diablo-alike Warframe has been scratching my ARPG itch quite well.
CrypticRuin
Warframe is also top notch ftp
IOnceAteASandwichAndTurnedIntoACanadian
I've never been able to enjoy poe. I hate the cash system, the art style, the public towns, the skill trees, the amount of confusingDropsEtc
unitedstateoftexas
Not true. WAY back it was a nightmare. Now PoE is seriously whomping the shit out of D3&RoS. You'd think blizzard would retort? Naw.
YourLiege
HELL YEAH
Selerox
I installed PoE to give it a "quick try". 600 hours played so far. It's got so much content I felt guilty playing it for free.
baiin
Even Torchlight 1&2 are better than Diablo3!
AlCoolAJ
I agree about torchlight 2, but I really disliked the first. It felt like a sequel to the horrid diablo 1 expansion melded into diablo 2
ChaosxNetwork
I resent your use of "Even" those games are so good outright!
zFUBARz
Even? Torchlight was fucking great, and I'm pretty sure Diablo ended up snagging some ideas from it.
DracoDragonheart
Keep an eye out for Torchlight Frontiers coming out next year: https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/torchlight-frontiers
zFUBARz
Well hot damn.
uzerok
Haven't played in a while. Do they have 'instants' by now and have the performance issues gotten better?
CrypticRuin
Instants? And they fixed the desync awhile back
uzerok
Instants are skills that you can use while moving. Some are now in the game according to the 3.4 patch notes. Lockstep might have fixed 1/2
uzerok
desyncing. But for some more AoE dependent builds the frame rates drop horribly low when using them. Not that ideal if you play hardcore 2/2
LetMeGoogleThatShtForYou
As a hard core D1 and D2 fan, I whole heatedly agree. D3 is an insult to fans(They tried to simplify the game and made a sparkling shitshow)
SouperScott
I actually enjoyed 3 just fine. Especially as it is now.
parwashere
Never played Poe how is it
joesii
Best multiplayer action hack and slash ever made. Also happens to be free with no virtually no pay-for-advantage.
MufinMcFlufin
I hear it's better than Diablo 3
Sekai
Much more complicated, skill tree...er..forest...is the polar opposite of D3
ruferto
looks like an electrical schematic
CrypticRuin
It's really good, Google "cheap, easy build for poe" and follow a guide to get started.
MartinD63
I'm at over 2k hours in each. Both good but very different. D3 = pick up and play, quite forgiving. PoE = Steep learning curve, punishing.
ikagawa
Very in-depth, huge, confusing skill point leveling system that's awesome when you finally figure out what you need.
Goldenbeer
I started playing a couple weeks ago. It's not bad if you research stuff first. If you dive in head first it's pretty rough though.
parwashere
Sounds like a shit load of fub
ManaSin
Try it. It's free and gets new content every 3-4 months. Next bit will be in December. Next Diablo content will be... Oh :(
KnightHendrik
Pretty good, the skill tree takes some getting used to, but it's fun
LoneWardenGaming
I enjoyed Grim Dawn, its mostly the same creators that made Titan Quest. Its really fun and very open to all kinds of builds
DickMercenary
Hyped as hell for the new expansion. Been waiting for a paladin-y class since early access.
SkitteringStalker
Absolutely this. For me Grim dawn is a modern D2, and POE is a better made D3. GD is slower more story, POE is slaughterfest. Recommend both
moff
agree, Grim Dawn ftw! :D
Huglust
Grim Dawn is beautiful, epic, brutal, and also a gigantic heap of hot bullshit.
DarkUranium
One of these is not like the others.
Leviosoooohhhh
Did they really say "don't you guys have phones?"
tchoukiwalimou
Do you guys have a mother ? coz i invented a game ....
5678910iloveyou
I just watched it yeah he did
StevenFarmer
"Don't you have enough money to make a real game?"
Laxeey
Right after the crowd booed at them. Such a shit show.
JustSayingYouHaventSeenMeAndBatmanInTheSameRoomBefore
I cringed so hard watching that I almost created a singularity with my asshole.
fixer66
hardest i laughed since.. watching bliz con
talenphillips
More like "dOn'T yOu gUyS hAvE pHoNeS?"
ArtOzz
Thats what I said. Did he really say that?
DoYouGuysNotHavePhones
yes. holy shit that was halarious.
St0nyth3b3ar
F a F
TrimBlood
Yeeeeah.. Blizzard was the last big gaming company I respected. So sad
ArtOzz
EH. SCII is legend obviously but they lost me at Kung Foo Panda the MMO.
DarkUranium
Hey, there's nothing wrong with Kung Fu Panda! (... but many things wrong with Pandaria)
Caius4
Still CDPred
Threadnomancer
Yep, after the crowd booed them saying itd be mobile only. They'll port it within months at this point
Sqwuid
Yay! A mobile game on PC!
justherefortheshitposting
It's a Chinese P2W mobile game reskinned with D3 assets, who the fuck would buy a port?
EyesofAvo
https://youtu.be/ly10r6m_-n8
LordK3m
That cuts off the interesting point he makes that it looked like there were elements/fixes that the D3 fanbase has been asking for ages.
ialwaysexpectthespanishinqusition
poronkusemania
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guts423
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DorthLous
I thought it was a meme. I didn't know they actually said it. The man man...
muffinjuices
Wow that was uncomfortable to watch lol
AllTheGoodOnesAreTaken68
You don't want anal? Do you not have an asshole?
Sekai
Nope! Since so much shit comes from our mouths, we no longer need them
shoutuckerfatheroftheyear
that was worse than I thought it would be. Well done, blizzard!
hetriedtokillmewithaforklift
Love the booing. That's like people booing Apple at a keynote speech
HighFunctioningSociopath221B
Leviosoooohhhh
Oh. Oh no. The silence was gut wrenching
mikeatike
And that room full of people paid for the privilege of being there to get belittled. Hilarious.
WoeToHice
I _almost_ feel sorry for Wyatt Cheng. Sure, he's the lead game designer, but I wonder how much freedom he had in deciding (1/2)
PandoBox
the process is pretty simple, activision: we need to a mobile game because we believe there is market. blizzard: ok daddy
ilhares
Having your name and title slapped on a reskin of an already existing game seems like walking around in a suit made of rotten tuna.
WoeToHice
what kind of game Diablo Immortal would be. Then again, he could've quit Blizzard over it, too, so I don't _actually_ feel sorry. (2/2)
somekindofusernamething
Yep, any Blizz Devs that cared about Blizz games quit long ago it seems.
somekindofusernamething
This is blizzard 2 years ago the head dev for Wow told the fan base 'you think you want vanilla servers but you don't really want them' 1/2
ClayBones548
That guy took over when Morhaime left which explains a lot.
Binsto
as if diablo mobile game wasen't in the works by then, he took over less than a month ago
ClayBones548
This is literally a reskin of a Chinese mobile game, they could have thrown a demo and cutscene together in a few weeks.
Binsto
true,but still,a cutscene in that detail takes along time, + al the event stuff is probably planned months in advance (playable on the floor
Binsto
he also came on stage to announce classic, class move for him to do actually
somekindofusernamething
2/2 1 year later the announce vanilla servers, the blizz team are so out of touch at this point its embarrassing for them surely.
ArtOzz
...Naaa...they did not say that...you are lying man...lol...
somekindofusernamething
They legitimately did say that, go google it, Ion said it the Blizzcon before they announced Vanilla servers.
mthrndr01
Next Blizzcon: We're launching a cereal called Shit Covered Gravel-o's. *boos* Ya'll motherfuckers have spoons, right?
registeredtoproveimawesome
"we've decided to sell literal shit... what? You don't have toilets?"
PCW3187
Well said
BoreasTheNorthWind
They did launch Overwatch-themed cereal, though. Lucio cereal, to be exact.
Einstein9073
if they didn't call it Luci-o's
GunnlaugrOlafson
Lucio-Ohs
wastewanderer
It is called Lucio-Oh's, and it's made by Kellogg, so it's probably just Apple Jacks.
thedudeman519
Still cool!
EvilDeadTed
Leviosoooohhhh
I chuckled hard
Suedocode
To be fair, that's not the guy who asked if people had phones.
thedudeman519
I think everyone on the panel made a comment like that though
doryaa
Jesus christ why would you say that as a developer
dogmatix
If previous blizzcon events are anything to go by, half of them were probably coked up to the eyeballs
DickDastardly404
in fairness he was getting pretty attacked, and on a personal level i understand his comment, but he has to realise he is representing 1/2
DickDastardly404
his company, not just himself. Its a tough situation to be in, especially since he's been a part of diablo development from the start 1.5/2
DickDastardly404
and to have to palm off this shitty game that he almost certainly doesn't care for himself, while simultaneously getting shit for it 1.75/2
DickDastardly404
must genuinely be quite difficult. Truthfully no one really hates the man, they hate the company. That said, it's an issue of 1.875/2
ThePsychicZombie
Honestly I think he's right. They all totally have phones, they can just not play the game if they don't want ti.
Asgarus
Have you never been passionate about anything? Can't you understand how disappointing and outraging it can be to see your favorite 1/2
Asgarus
game franchise that you grew up with/have been a fan of for decades being treated like garbage? Mobile games are a joke 90% of the time.
ThePsychicZombie
If there was a Borderlands mobile game, I prolly just wouldn't pay it if it didn't look good.
ThePsychicZombie
Did you see the gameplay? it looked like plenty of fun. Everyone is bitching because gamers are entitled children.
ThePsychicZombie
And honestly, nah, I wouldn't ever be infuriated at that. It's THEIR GAME they can do whatever they want to w/ it.
LuncheonsAndDragons
Reading the room is a comedian's job, not a developer's.
cannonesshannah
This was a PR presenter, he should have known better.
zFUBARz
Wasn't he the lead dev?
cannonesshannah
In the same way that the typical corporate boss is "hands on" with any product the company makes.
Raxiel
He was floundering, they didn't expect the reaction they got (inexplicably)
GunnlaugrOlafson
in an Interview they said, that they expected negative feedback, just not THAT negative
ArtOzz
I think corporate ignorance is to blame. They arent listening to their playerbase and doing whatever they want and expecting it to work.
ArtOzz
Apperently Bethesda is doing some similar cockup with Fallout 76. Making something that obviously wont work as a game.
doryaa
I know its Blizzcon and they expect mostly positive reactions but man, if it was me and I was presenting anything I would prepare better
Robinerd
Not sure how much that would've helped :o
Asgarus
How do you prepare something like that? I'm sure they expected the reaction, but they get paid for trying to make it sound good.
ArtOzz
...He actually said, and I quote, "Dont you guys have phones". There is little more room for a worse faux pas in this context.
mthrndr01
"...fortunately we have a product for people who aren't able to get some form of connectivity, it's called Xbox 360." -Former King of Idiots
zFUBARz
So much hate, they just knew where the future was going and tried to get their a little early.
Slashinhobo
An always online device isnt the future when we have data caps and limited dl and upl speeds. I cant think of any benefit to always online
zFUBARz
It's coming though, both Sony and MS are aiming at a hybrid streaming service for the next generation.
NerdN1
Someone asked if this mobile game would be on PC too and the crowd was booing a new game. I could see panicking a little
Goldenbeer
You probably shouldn't make the biggest announcement for your convention full of PC gamers about a mobile only game for an IP they have 1/2
Goldenbeer
Been waiting years on new content for. 2/2
NerdN1
Imagine being the guy that was picked to have to go out to that crowd. I doubt this direction was his idea.