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Sphincterislife
Only in America
threedeviations
This is where the cops fear and expectations are way out of line.
lVlARIO
Cops typically interact with people who don't like them. This isn't new, it's the way it's always been. They shouldn't be surprised by this.
doobiedoobop
State security forces aren't there to help you.
Nameofyoursextape69
What about just being nice to everyone. Not tough. Be a good person. Be the good one.
SisterMidnight
lennycrabbitz
Normally people should be nice to everyone. Probs we should leave out other people of our problems and not dump our shit on others.
blackstaff72
Anyone else believe cops shouldn't be a dick to you, and you shouldn't be a dick to them
Lots43
Not me! If cops can’t take rudeness they need to quit. You should give them a hard time. Keep them working
testzero
Because retail workers are at risk of losing their jobs if they do it wrong.
mmagabel365
Heavy titties for the win!
Smartlinkseo
Sooner or later cops will need to go through the same training as military.
Harrybub
Here’s an idea let’s treat people with respect despite what job they have.
Lots43
Tell cops that
lietotheelderly
Pigs are S-S-S-S-Snowflakes!
TheAccursedHamster
Because power trip.
nohnaim
Come see the violence inherent in the system!
Fluffywoowoo
You don’t have to ”eat it”, no matter what you do for a living. Everybody deserves respect until they prove otherwise.
JayEnfield
Canadian here. The shit I got in retail was small potatoes compared to the shit my RCMP friends have to not react to.
JayEnfield
Most of their stories of super-abusive language come out of traffic-stops for routine tickets (speeding, etc), curiously enough.
ElbowdeepinElmo
I'm guessing people don't think going too fast is a big deal, so when they face consequences for it, they feel treated unfairly and blow up
JayEnfield
Keiths and Karens are everywhere, man.
activeracer28
Ah yes another great mystery of the good ol USA brand freedom.
SteveNotSteve
If you imagine that cops in other countries are always patient, kind and generous, you would be mistaken.
zanaria
The fact that cops have less oversight than soldiers in a war zone is a serious problem... But customer service just sucks...
TheNihilistsParadoxicalWashingMachine
"The blade itself incites to deeds of violence." . The power and capability to do that with a better than you mentality inevitably corrupts.
albertkaholic
But why be an a-hole to anyone?
namerelevanttocomment
American culture
sleepinggreenidea
There is a huge chasm between "being an asshole" and "not offering fawning deference", but you wouldn't know it from interacting w/many LEOs
DarkZalgo
Gonna go out on a limb and say it's reasonable for someone to act irrational when they're being assaulted.
42isnottheanswer
And nurses, they take some absolute shit from people and have no protection in terms of repercussions for the perpetrator
GigglesMaster
Or healthcare workers! Ppl spit on us daily, and we have to keep our cool
SirLantsBojangles
I know it's "do no harm", but the rest of us aren't bound to that oath.
drduckbertmd4
Situations like this is why the 18 gauge needle was invented :)
dumberthanyouraveragebear
I mean...if I’m a dick to restaurant staff...I’ll get spit in my food..why the fuck would people be assholes to medical workers?!
GigglesMaster
Sometimes it’s simple things, like “you can’t eat for 8 hrs for the procedure”.. it’s never really justified
dumberthanyouraveragebear
Their level of revenge is almost limitless...they may know exactly where and when you sleep...they may CAUSE IT!! TLDR: don’t fuck with ..
dumberthanyouraveragebear
Medical staff
ChoccoMilkandCheetos
I’ve been hit, punched and an addict tried stabbing me with a needle when I worked in ER. Oh the stories I could tell...
GigglesMaster
I’ve been attacked just for being a female doctor! It’s insane
mksu
If boomers got as angry about cops abusing people as they did about service employees who don't smile quite wide enough, there'd be no issue
Kringon
It is all about WHO they get abused by. Most boomers wont get looked twice at by a police officer
whatpassesforclever
Once I learned that cops have no obligation to put themselves in harms way, the whole police brutality issue became even more insane. They1/
whatpassesforclever
2/ can seriously just walk away from a dangerous situation (or never enter it in the first place) with no repercussions, unlike military.
yappingcrow
Aw c’mon, I and all the boomers I know are furious about the way cops treat people and do not expect poorly paid retail workers to smile.
ChakLee
you are appreciated. But your voting demographic is what it is, so I'd expect the stereotype
yappingcrow
But I wonder which other groups you stereotype... and whether that’s really the way you want to live your life?
ChakLee
yes. stereotypes are a great heuristic when there's little information and low consequences. Misuse doesn't invalidate the method.
beachpupper
Millennials are killing the police brutality industry
CyranoDeBurlapSack
I’d upvote this comment but it’s at 187.
beachpupper
Good motha fuckin choice motha fucka
nudders
I got this reference
ZWhitethorne
Imagine being a minority talking to cops.. first time I ever got pulled over. Cop said "do you want to go to jail" didn't signal before turn
Mayzowl
Jesus. I can't even imagine. I was pulled over for the same offense, abt 10 yrs ago, as a white woman. $20 ticket and he was nice to me. ?
Mayzowl
(For clarity, though, traffic tickets are ridiculously light in North Dakota.) But I wonder what that stop would be like if I weren't white.
SheaBriar
I'm white and I once spent two hours sitting on a curb in handcuffs at 3 AM, all because I ran a yellow light and my friend left some >
SheaBriar
plastic Toys R' Us nunchucks in the back seat
Mayzowl
That's awful, I'm sorry. I did not mean to imply that all white ppl automatically get away with 'crimes'/etc. :(
Valkor
"how long does it take to get service around here" and i just look back in to the store, multiple phones ringing, food flying in the air.
Valkor
and then deadass stare at her while slowly checking out her order taking as long as possible.
Thrashcan
Who disliked this?!
maxstout808
Boomers
Piro314
The muthafuckin police
eisanschnauz1
Woop woop
Thrashcan
That's the sound of da beast
Caldien101
maybe an unpopular opinion... but maybe you could treat both groups with respect?
Lots43
Cops need to earn respect
ElbowdeepinElmo
Or...y'know, don't force a hostile environment so there's even a chance of a respectful interaction
Lots43
I never advocated that
ElbowdeepinElmo
So what did you mean by "they need to earn it" in that context? If you don't go into it with a base level of respect, that's the result
Lots43
That’s nonsense
Lots43
Cops have no legal or moral right to be a jerk in response to rudeness. How horrific you think otherwise . Are you a cop?
VitaminJay
ClassicFrank
I'll try to answer, I've been close to a cop, and I was not doing anything, yet I was nervous, imagine how a criminal would react to a /
ClassicFrank
Cop that is looking at him. Maybe jumpy? Maybe more nervous than usual? That's why we gotta be civil and not compare a trip to the /
ClassicFrank
Grocery stop with the authority. We gotta do our part towards a better society.
WhiteAntelope
I don't see how this is accurate, this implies that it is fair for cops to be overly aggressive because someone is jumpy and nervous
ClassicFrank
I can see how you could miss interpret that. It's not fair for cops to be aggressive towards someone who is nervous. All I'm asking is to /
VitaminBeaPositive
So if someone is nervous, the cop can assault them? Nervousness is guilt now? What the actual fuck.
ClassicFrank
So we shoud reduce every argument to the extremes? Why do you use "assault"? Think real hard about the cop and how many interactions he /
ClassicFrank
Has every day. He meets all kinds of people. All I'm asking is civility, and it shoud not be something really hard to offer towards either /
ClassicFrank
The cop, the grocery store clerc or the other people you're interacting with. That's what the fuck is.
VitaminBeaPositive
Not to mention, police are public servants. You shouldn't be nervous around them if you aren't doing anything illegal.
VitaminBeaPositive
The fact that you ARE nervous around police when you are innocent proves how fucked up and dangerous they are.
ClassicFrank
You have it all wrong, buddy! The fact that a cop is a public employee does not mean you have to be an asshole to him. I'm asking a simple /
Sec109
A government entity with the ability to execute citizens should be under the highest scrutiny and standards. But they r not
SchizoidPanda
Strict scrutiny or rational scrutiny? We should ask Giuliani!
BootsCatsBeeeeeeez
Yet they have a delusion that they THINK they are held to higher standards than everyone else.
Shoutrr
first step: don't elect cops. second step: give them a proper formation for their job to weed out the crazies.
dbsamurai
the US doesn't elect cops. Sheriffs aren't cops, subtle distinction.
shmekie
It comes down to their “union” being like the old Catholic Church — simply a function to coverup misdeeds
I3urman
Weed?!
LetumComplexo
There are *some* valid points about electing sheriffs but there are some serious downsides to the practice too.
Maelars
I believe police school is a 3 year bachelors degree in most European countries. At least in Norway it is. Education is the obvious solution
Didgitalpunk
I think it's the same in france. we had a student cop at our school that worked there as a supervisor to pay her rent while she studied.
CirB
About the same in Finland.
parasztarcal
Well I mean it would be a solution to nearly every recent American problem, but it's socialism or something.
Sec109
Dude I died laughing holy fuck
morelikeconsham
Frankly, they aren't allowed to execute citizens. That's the right of the judge and jury alone. The biggest difference between officers and
Sec109
They aren’t allowed, lmao. It’s encouraged by most of them.
morelikeconsham
You are talking about the level of scrutiny we should hold them to, but don't care what the letter of the law says? Are you fucking special?
Sec109
Your missing my point entirely. Nj, try re reading slowly
morelikeconsham
No, I got your point clearly, and you missed mine. I know the police get away with it. We all know it. Knowing it doesn't make you part of
BaelKor
Weird, they really are allowed to do that if our history is clear.
morelikeconsham
Hey look, as per my earlier comment, you have the reading comprehension of a third grader. we are not talking about what current practices
morelikeconsham
are.
BaelKor
What earlier comment? You fucked up. You literally wrote something incorrect. Factually incorrect.
morelikeconsham
Factually incorrect? Are you fucking kidding me? Are you saying you actually think the police have the legal authority to execute people?
morelikeconsham
Normal people is that they are allowed to carry weapons anywhere and have an obligation to use force to protect others, including deadly.
morelikeconsham
That being said, even a citizen can use deadly force to protect others if necessary.
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KinetoPlay
They are quite clearly allowed to execute citizens. Have you not paid attention to anything? Yes it's illegal, but they're clearly allowed.
morelikeconsham
Yes, I know. I was commenting on the letter of the law, since we were talking about what "should" be. There is no reason to talk about the
morelikeconsham
And if even one more of you morons thinks "the police get away with murder" is a counterargument to *anything* i said, then you should take
morelikeconsham
That sentiment as a reading comprehension score.
morelikeconsham
Goddamn this community is an embarrassment sometimes. The idea of disliking "the police don't have the authority to execute people" is one
morelikeconsham
Of the more shameful prospects I can possibly think of. I cannot believe I share a planet with police bumrutality sympathizers.
RideTheStimutacs
You're the only embarrassing one here, because you're being SUCH a bitch about this and repeatedly insulting anyone who mildly disagrees.
morelikeconsham
All right, I am going to head off every idiot that's getting their panties in a knot. We are talking about what should be, not what is.
parasztarcal
Police should follow the law. There, I bridged the gap for you.
morelikeconsham
Saying that the police are allowed to execute people and that for that reason we should place their executions under scrutiny is
morelikeconsham
Irresponsible, because it fosters the false notion that the police were *ever*, by the letter of the law, permitted to execute people. They
morelikeconsham
Are not. For exactly that reason, every police shooting, including those that currently go ignored or even rewarded, should be viewed as an
Camelspotting
When you're calling people idiots while also playing captain obvious you are the idiot and you're going to have a bad time.
morelikeconsham
"captain obvious?" The original commenter literally said that the police have the authority to execute people and that we need to place them
morelikeconsham
under close scrutiny for that reason. It's right there. If that doesn't immediately make you go "that is dangerously misinformed," then I
morelikeconsham
Additionally, you can't play the "captain obvious" card when this rhetoric is common propaganda right now all over the country. "If they had
morelikeconsham
listened to the police, they wouldn't have been shot" is rhetoric blaming the victim for police brutality, and extrajudicial executions,
WereStillFlying
If they are on fact executing citizens, and the policies are enabling it, then you are wrong on both a de facto and de jure level.
morelikeconsham
So the appropriate response is to decide that they do, in fact, have the authority to kill people, and just keep letting them do so?
morelikeconsham
And on a side note, this is simply a lie. The policies do not enable it - they are explicitly forbidden from using lethal force in the
morelikeconsham
letter of the law, so they are de facto allowed to execute only. If you want to change that fact, perhaps commenting on the letter of the
WereStillFlying
^wherever you live that cops are forbidden from using lethal force sounds like a nice place. Its not the USA or Canada.