You had to be super nice for that three month courting period so you could marry them and then you owned them. Modern men realise it's a marathon; no point attracting a woman using a fake personality cos it won't last (although plenty of men who complain about being single should try actually changing their personality permanently)
That's true. Does it change the fact that they were polite and charming and Nanna notices that today's guys aren't? My son's are polite and charming to everyone because they were raised to be. Not because they are trying to get something other than respect. Their SO's and their families all talk to me about how they are old fashioned gentlemen. All of their real friends are like that too, I notice that most of their friends are from other cultures with more strict morals.
Life does shift when you cross the line of “fuckable” to “middle aged non-cougar”. But, as someone who was fat & awkward in middle school before she became pretty? If you’re an asshole to fat little girls you’re the same ones to older women. Nothing I haven’t seen before. And it’s kind of like letting the trash take itself out. Going to be an asshole bc you don’t care who someone is outside of potential penis polisher? Nice to know. I’ll hire/tip/invite the other guy instead.
Horrible thing to assume about men, that they're only kind or polite or whatever because they want to "bang" someone. What a distateful bit of shitty boomer humour. Gross.
My 6th grade daughter is already 5’5”, some kid at a track meet tried to grab her ass, she knocked him out with one punch, never seen anything like that from her before, when I ran up to her she straight up said, “he has no right to touch me” never have been prouder of here got kicked out and she set a pr, I’m good with the overall result
She's 23 now, but coached daughters sports for years. Run enough lines conditioning, and 5th grade girls will be happy to sit and get into some shit. I learned how so much from those untarnished minds, but can tell you that within three weeks, new policies had been written at school, and perhaps a couple of very aggressive, unsettled boys had conversations with some older brothers. I heard about apologies and two boys showed up at games to support the girls. Not perfect but hopeful for humility
I remember when my daughter was that age. A boy kept trying to touch her. She kicked him in his junk. When I asked her what happened, she said, "Well, I kicked him in his shin. Except it wasn't his shin... then he just fell down" he kept his hands to himself after that.
You can't be serious? She's an eighty year old white woman. When she was young boys wore a tie when they called to take her out and said " Yes sir" "Thank you mam" to anyone older than them, so she saw how young men talked to eighty year old women and can judge it against young men of today. I don't think your head works the same as mine. Some people still talk like that.
I assume you were born in the early 1940s, if you're in the best position to judge. But even if you lived through that time, you certainly weren't exposed to the diverse social classes and environments in which young men's behavior would likely have varied considerably. Furthermore, there remains the problem that superficial politeness couldn't compensate for the restricted roles and neglected rights of women at that time.
Right? All of that could be true*. Exactly none of that changes the woman's statement, from her lived experience, does it? Just think about this question for a moment before you answer. There is a difference between knowledge and wisdom. ( *All of that isn't true but that's not the point either, my extended family included gangsters and bank managers both of whom were married to their childhood sweetheart for over 60 years I might point out.)
Would these be the same men that if they scored before marriage they were cool and boys will be boys, but the women who they did it with were “easy” and “loose”?
I don't know what I'm talking about? In 1945 they already had mass produced cameras and most middle class families had their own. No one was dressing up for a family snapshot. I'm only sarcastic with people that make stupid comments about subjects that they know nothing about. Guys picking up a girl from her parents house dressed up and spoke politely. I watched them do it when they were taking my sister out.
Isn't that different than polite and charming?. why don't you bring up pay disparity as well? And are you saying there isn't a problem with that today?
You have a weird concept of what's polite or charming if being treated as an inferior, being condescended to, and having your autonomy ignored is considered either of those things.
Is that what you think I wrote? It isn't. That's on you not me. It's a comprehension problem. The old woman talked about the young men being polite and charming. I contend that they definitely were polite and charming. I didn't disagree one time that a lot of them were being polite and charming with an ulterior motive. I don't condone that ulterior motive. You seem to struggle with reading comprehension. That's on you not me.
Yeah, everyone gets what you are saying. We are simply making counterpoints. Everything you've said here reveals how badly you failed to read what i said. Nothing I said was about anything ulterior. That you think your inability to understand the counterpoints is anyone else's reading comprehension issue is both laughable and entirely on you.
Oh you are right, its polite and charming to grope women freely in the workplace openly with no repercussions. ALso, trump is 78 years old my guy, Massive support from older generations. They do not give one single flying fuck about politeness, fuck off.
Name checks out at least. Who said groping women was polite and charming? That's a reading comprehension thing. I keep forgetting that the average American reading level is equivalent to that of a 7th or 8th grader (12 to 14 years old). While 4 in 5 US adults are considered literate, a significant number, about 1 in 5, read at or below a Level 1, indicating difficulty with understanding printed or digital materials.
When she was 13, older men incl. relatives started giving her creepy "compliments" or copped a feel because they knew she'd be too embarrassed to tell anyone. When she walked past construction sites she was mercilessly catcalled. Her first boyfriend drove out into the sticks and she knew if she didn't give him at least a handjob he might leave her there to walk all the way back in heels. And her first boss expected a daily blowjob, which she couldn't report to anyone. It was that or being fired.
It happened a LOT more back then because women couldn't talk about it and had no legal recourse. No workplace protections, no laws against sexual harassment or even marital rape. Men were polite as long as there were other people within earshot, unless those people were their peers whom they sought to impress like the construction site catcallers. Nowadays, their colleagues would give them an earful about their behavior, but back then men didn't scold other men for grabbing the waitress's butt.
Not to mention how impolite men could become once they were married. So many women frequently walked into doors & fell down stairs. Many turned to alcohol b/c it was the only way to endure the knowledge that their husband raped the kids. And if they demanded a divorce, their husbands had the legal power to have them admitted to a mental hospital. Some dollar bills changed hands, their wife was diagnosed with hysteria & lobotomized. Still able to cook & clean but otherwise barely mentally present
Some people certainly behaved like that. Lots of them. Child rape wasn't happening in every house though. Does any of that negate the old woman's point ? I get that you think some of those polite boys were only being polite for other reasons than their upbringing. Don't you understand the difference between these two positions?
throwaway12345432
I would... just sayin.
Jaco927
SedatedSl0th
You don’t speak for me young lady.
SeaJaySail
WES
5knotcans
Oh don't be so sure.
huffnpuff72
More polite ... when in public. More likely to sexually assault?
bill4935
"Nobody in the family was happy when my grandfather stole all that Viagra from the pharmacy, but my grandmother is taking it especially hard."
BiffMaGriff
Looks like AI slop
Anfalicious
You had to be super nice for that three month courting period so you could marry them and then you owned them. Modern men realise it's a marathon; no point attracting a woman using a fake personality cos it won't last (although plenty of men who complain about being single should try actually changing their personality permanently)
Wikitoria
That's true.
Does it change the fact that they were polite and charming and Nanna notices that today's guys aren't?
My son's are polite and charming to everyone because they were raised to be.
Not because they are trying to get something other than respect.
Their SO's and their families all talk to me about how they are old fashioned gentlemen.
All of their real friends are like that too, I notice that most of their friends are from other cultures with more strict morals.
JohnWickdidnothingwrong
Speak for yourself. Wait she said young men, shit.
duktayp
Wes Young
shivacat
Oh, him.
DarkJaeger
Clue that this is ai drek
MithridateEupator
AI can spell properly. This is more a clue that a person made this.
VastMajorityRule
$20 bucks says gam gam will gum it
Becker37
Aww, give Grandma a little dicking
MaleProstateMilker88
Something about this image looks off.
colinstu
because it's AI slop.
MaleProstateMilker88
Feared as much when Google lens didn't find this image except on reddit and I think the other was Facebook.
SpectralSpider
Is this AI?
Lisossoma
Definitely
Aimlockbelch
Simone Giertz and Aunt May team up? Yeah, probably.
AuOpossum
is this AI?
sonomarco
If that's the case, what about not-so-young men?
CatShadowleaf
They have all dementia and are grabbing at the nurses' asses.
Zootsoot
Life does shift when you cross the line of “fuckable” to “middle aged non-cougar”.
But, as someone who was fat & awkward in middle school before she became pretty? If you’re an asshole to fat little girls you’re the same ones to older women. Nothing I haven’t seen before. And it’s kind of like letting the trash take itself out. Going to be an asshole bc you don’t care who someone is outside of potential penis polisher? Nice to know. I’ll hire/tip/invite the other guy instead.
ebonyfaery
Horrible thing to assume about men, that they're only kind or polite or whatever because they want to "bang" someone. What a distateful bit of shitty boomer humour. Gross.
Silversalvation
Maybe it's all the nasty opinions and lack of respect you give to them... or I'm just projecting my grandma... who knows.
Eyhlix
Well, save some for the rest of usersub. /s
mksu
Bold of you to assume your grandma lost her game.
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HandoB4Javert
OnlyGrans
pareidoliaperson
Her gum game.
NPaine
Gram gram still gettin that clam slammed
technofiend
Yeah STDs are rampant in nursing homes; she just needs to find her demographic.
Jewdakris
Yeah they don't have to try, grams pulling up and honking twice.
zafner
She said "young." Men's attraction for women skews young
Believe me, if there was anything I could do about this, I would do it immediately, but unfortunately this human drive doesn't work that way
Ekibwurm
she's not making that pie for nothing
admiralawesome4213
https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1bmhuMDgyZmt4ODZ1c2g2NWF6cTQybTRzaGhheWFyY3p3cWI1cXh3byZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/l1J3JhjOOxL1Su4GQ/200w.webp
Ekibwurm
olafthrig
https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1YmVnaXd4cjZvcnkzcHdjZWIzMnE5Y3Y5cWIxcDhzam1obXk4NWF3YSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/10JcediokhYlVK/200w.webp
Ekibwurm
GrumpyOldMan55
She's right in my wheelhouse.
FuzzyX
Just wait until grandma takes her teeth out when men can come running.
beerlady
https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1ZzV0bmMycXdjY3hya25oM3dheWNoNmZ1c3B1OWR5Mjk1dDZzMTFzeiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/f7MO098FCipmq0eUpV/200w.webp
insanitycontinuum
"... I was going to continue, when they are licking me out" - grandma
FlapQueen
WisconsinPlatt
Really see that covid dip there
nero4ty2
My 6th grade daughter is already 5’5”, some kid at a track meet tried to grab her ass, she knocked him out with one punch, never seen anything like that from her before, when I ran up to her she straight up said, “he has no right to touch me” never have been prouder of here got kicked out and she set a pr, I’m good with the overall result
ChicanoBatman
She's 23 now, but coached daughters sports for years. Run enough lines conditioning, and 5th grade girls will be happy to sit and get into some shit. I learned how so much from those untarnished minds, but can tell you that within three weeks, new policies had been written at school, and perhaps a couple of very aggressive, unsettled boys had conversations with some older brothers. I heard about apologies and two boys showed up at games to support the girls. Not perfect but hopeful for humility
dragonsdemesne
Other kid is bullshit, but your daughter's reaction is awesome. Hopefully the other kid learned some manners.
romylys6514
I remember when my daughter was that age. A boy kept trying to touch her. She kicked him in his junk. When I asked her what happened, she said, "Well, I kicked him in his shin. Except it wasn't his shin... then he just fell down" he kept his hands to himself after that.
SirNameless
I hope you raised hell. The groper should have been kicked out, not your daughter.
nero4ty2
They were both kicked out, she got let back in to run her anchor in the relay after speaking to the officials , he was banned from competition
HalloIamherenow
Glad you were able to work with them to sort it out. And that the correct parties were punished with a ban.
eddewarde
maybe police report
Rubbishtheresnoway9peopleusetaniwhida
You can't be serious?
She's an eighty year old white woman.
When she was young boys wore a tie when they called to take her out and said " Yes sir" "Thank you mam" to anyone older than them, so she saw how young men talked to eighty year old women and can judge it against young men of today.
I don't think your head works the same as mine.
Some people still talk like that.
Thorketil
I assume you were born in the early 1940s, if you're in the best position to judge. But even if you lived through that time, you certainly weren't exposed to the diverse social classes and environments in which young men's behavior would likely have varied considerably. Furthermore, there remains the problem that superficial politeness couldn't compensate for the restricted roles and neglected rights of women at that time.
Rubbishtheresnoway9peopleusetaniwhida
Right?
All of that could be true*.
Exactly none of that changes the woman's statement, from her lived experience, does it?
Just think about this question for a moment before you answer.
There is a difference between knowledge and wisdom.
( *All of that isn't true but that's not the point either, my extended family included gangsters and bank managers both of whom were married to their childhood sweetheart for over 60 years I might point out.)
SidonisAntares
Would these be the same men that if they scored before marriage they were cool and boys will be boys, but the women who they did it with were “easy” and “loose”?
Rubbishtheresnoway9peopleusetaniwhida
The very same, and ?
andexer
No, we don't.
algoritham
I can't tell if this is satire or not. I suppose thats the hallmark of good satire though.
fractalsphere
You came here to post something and chose THAT?
Rubbishtheresnoway9peopleusetaniwhida
I didn't know how to get in touch with you to let you write a comment for me.
I will ask you before I comment now oh wise one.
ChelVanin
Boys wore ties for picture because fuck knows when they’ll get their picture taken again. They didn’t run around dressed like that.
Rubbishtheresnoway9peopleusetaniwhida
Sure bud.
ChelVanin
Your tone is awfully sarcastic for someone who doesn’t know what they’re talking about.
Rubbishtheresnoway9peopleusetaniwhida
I don't know what I'm talking about?
In 1945 they already had mass produced cameras and most middle class families had their own.
No one was dressing up for a family snapshot.
I'm only sarcastic with people that make stupid comments about subjects that they know nothing about.
Guys picking up a girl from her parents house dressed up and spoke politely.
I watched them do it when they were taking my sister out.
ChelVanin
My mom was born in 1959 and her parents didn’t have a camera til she was five. Sweeping generalizations are usually wrong.
Tyrannotron
Yeah, women in the 60s were famous for how equally men treated them and for not being looked down upon or controlled.
Rubbishtheresnoway9peopleusetaniwhida
Isn't that different than polite and charming?. why don't you bring up pay disparity as well?
And are you saying there isn't a problem with that today?
Tyrannotron
You have a weird concept of what's polite or charming if being treated as an inferior, being condescended to, and having your autonomy ignored is considered either of those things.
Rubbishtheresnoway9peopleusetaniwhida
Is that what you think I wrote?
It isn't.
That's on you not me.
It's a comprehension problem.
The old woman talked about the young men being polite and charming.
I contend that they definitely were polite and charming.
I didn't disagree one time that a lot of them were being polite and charming with an ulterior motive.
I don't condone that ulterior motive.
You seem to struggle with reading comprehension.
That's on you not me.
Tyrannotron
Yeah, everyone gets what you are saying. We are simply making counterpoints. Everything you've said here reveals how badly you failed to read what i said. Nothing I said was about anything ulterior. That you think your inability to understand the counterpoints is anyone else's reading comprehension issue is both laughable and entirely on you.
EternallyIgnorant
Oh you are right, its polite and charming to grope women freely in the workplace openly with no repercussions. ALso, trump is 78 years old my guy, Massive support from older generations. They do not give one single flying fuck about politeness, fuck off.
Rubbishtheresnoway9peopleusetaniwhida
Name checks out at least.
Who said groping women was polite and charming?
That's a reading comprehension thing.
I keep forgetting that the average American reading level is equivalent to that of a 7th or 8th grader (12 to 14 years old). While 4 in 5 US adults are considered literate, a significant number, about 1 in 5, read at or below a Level 1, indicating difficulty with understanding printed or digital materials.
EternallyIgnorant
Stop talking about reading comprehension when you dont havy any, you little dumb shit.
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
When she was 13, older men incl. relatives started giving her creepy "compliments" or copped a feel because they knew she'd be too embarrassed to tell anyone. When she walked past construction sites she was mercilessly catcalled. Her first boyfriend drove out into the sticks and she knew if she didn't give him at least a handjob he might leave her there to walk all the way back in heels. And her first boss expected a daily blowjob, which she couldn't report to anyone. It was that or being fired.
Rubbishtheresnoway9peopleusetaniwhida
Yep some of that even happens today.
Not sure if it changes her point.
They were on the whole polite.
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
It happened a LOT more back then because women couldn't talk about it and had no legal recourse. No workplace protections, no laws against sexual harassment or even marital rape. Men were polite as long as there were other people within earshot, unless those people were their peers whom they sought to impress like the construction site catcallers. Nowadays, their colleagues would give them an earful about their behavior, but back then men didn't scold other men for grabbing the waitress's butt.
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
Not to mention how impolite men could become once they were married. So many women frequently walked into doors & fell down stairs. Many turned to alcohol b/c it was the only way to endure the knowledge that their husband raped the kids. And if they demanded a divorce, their husbands had the legal power to have them admitted to a mental hospital. Some dollar bills changed hands, their wife was diagnosed with hysteria & lobotomized. Still able to cook & clean but otherwise barely mentally present
Rubbishtheresnoway9peopleusetaniwhida
Some people certainly behaved like that.
Lots of them.
Child rape wasn't happening in every house though.
Does any of that negate the old woman's point ?
I get that you think some of those polite boys were only being polite for other reasons than their upbringing.
Don't you understand the difference between these two positions?