A brief lesson: The UK Political system

Jun 10, 2017 5:42 AM

So, a long post but I've seen a lot of questions on Reddit asking how the UK system works, why is the recent result so important. Well fear not? I shall try to explain as best I can.

So the building above is the Houses of Parliament made up of two chambers, The House of Commons (fully elected) and the House of Lords (non-elected). For the purposes of this I'll largely be focusing on the House of Commons.

So the current Electoral system is called First Past the Post and is used to elect the 650 representatives to Parliament that sit in the House of Commons. Each representative will cover a specific area generally based on population (for example London has 73 constituencies, more than the entirety of Scotland, who have 59)

The system is simple, you go into your voting booth, are presented with a list of candidates (which may vary as not every party puts up a candidate in every constituency) and select their preference. Whoever gets the most votes wins. The strengths of this are simple, it usually leads to strong and stable governments and is simple to understand. However a big disadvantage is that due to the number of political parties, it is entirely possible for someone to win with less than half the vote. Indeed it is rare that an MP picks up over half and is usually down to a seat being considered ultra safe or the MP's personal popularity.

The current ruling party (lead by Theresa May) is the Conservative Party (often known as Tories). They are considered Centre to Right Wing in the UK, but for our cheeseburger guzzling friends, this lot would be seen as Democrats to moderate Republicans. We only really have one party that verges on Tea Party insanity. They are one of the two big parties of Britain and their support typically is in rural areas and the south of England. Currently hold 318 seats.

Labour are the other big party. They have had a crazy few years as they have gone from the Tory-lite they were under Tony Blair to the very left-wing incarnation under curent leader Jeremy Corbyn. By current redneck standards, this lot would be seen as on the same spectrum as Bernie Sanders. Their traditional strongholds are cities and urban areas, and the old industrial heartlands of the North. Recently won 262 seats.

In the past considered the third party of Britain, the Lib Dems typically sit on the centre but veer left or right depending on leadership. Under current leader Tim Farron they are very much on the left. A reasonable force previously, they have spent the last two elections recovering from a disastrous coalition government with the Tories, which saw them abandon their one flagship policy, being to abolish Tuition Fees for Universities, instead presiding over a coalition government that tripled them. Their old stronghold was the West Country, but now they are largely concentrated in student cities, as students remain their main source of votes. Hold 12 seats

The Scottish Nationalist Party (SNP) currently are the ruling party of Scotland. Their flagship policy is independence from the UK which was rejected in a referendum three years ago. It's hard to define them, as they are a loose coalition of left and right wing MP's who all believe in an independent Scotland, so much so that they need party guidelines to prevent MP's from disagreeing with the current leader Nicola Sturgeon. Held 59 seats at the last election but lost ground and now hold 35.

The Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) are the largest party in Northern Ireland. Typically seen as right of the Conservatives, with very questionale views on abortion and same-sex marriage (which is not legal in Northern Ireland). Currently hold 10 seats

Sinn Fein are the second party of Northern Ireland and seen as the political extension of the IRA. They campaign for a united Ireland and because of their refusal to swear loyalty to the Queen or recognise Northern Ireland as a separate country, they typically do not take up their seats in parliament. They keep making ground and as of the recent election won 7 seats.

Plaid Cymru (pronounced Plide-Come-re) are the party of Wales. Typically seen as left-wing but also supportive of independence for Wales. Won 4 seats in Wales

The Green Party are a left-wing party with (obvious) focus on the Enviroment. Hold a single seat in Brighton Pavilion, but poll about half a million votes countrywide (as much as the SNP)

The United Kingdom Indpendence Party (UKIP). Their main focus was the 'independence' of Britain from the EU, which was secured last year in a tightly fought referendum. Now they are seen as the far-right of Britain, which their views on Immigration and a 'Britain first' mentality. Recently led by Paul Nuttall but people will know their previous charismatic leader Nigel Farage more. Won no seats at the election and increasingly seen as a spent force due to their sole aim being achieved.

So in order to gain a working majority, a party would need 326 seats (half the total plus one). You can take away the Sinn Fein seats as they abstain from parliament, so an effective majority is 650-7 = 643 / 2 = 321.5, so 322.

Of course, if you look, the main problem is that no party has that number, which results in a Hung Parliament. Typically the Conservatives would align with the DUP, but risk losing support from the 12 Scottish Conservatives, as the leader of the Scottish Tories, Ruth Davidson is gay (again, just search the DUP's views on homosexuality to see why this might be a problem). The first act of a government is to pass the Queen's Speech, which typically sets out the broad aims of the government. The Tories face problems on a number of sides;

- The animosity between the leaders of the DUP, Arlene Foster and the Scottish Tories, Ruth Davidson
- A broad left-wing opposition completely united against the Tories (made up of Labour, Lib Dems, SNP and the smaller parties)
- A need to balance Brexit, where PM Theresa May has divisions even within her own party between the Eurosceptics, who want a Hard Brexit and the moderates, who want a more Norway style deal.

Her final problem will be the likes of the right wing media, such as The Sun

The Daily Mail

And the Daily Express, who will vehemently oppose any talk from May of anything other than a 'Hard Brexit' which is a complete withdrawal from the EU and all regulations (which will run into problems with the DUP, who want an open border with the Republic of Ireland.

We'll probably be back at the polls in a couple of months but hopefully this has helped clarify things.

EDIT: HOLY SHIT. FIRST EVER FRONT PAGE.

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Part 2: http://imgur.com/a/77g9A

Yeah, America is not the only country in political turmoil. Thanks for keeping us company, UK. First one to a revolution wins! Wait no...

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

"usually leads to strong and stable governments" I saw that, OP

8 years ago | Likes 27 Dislikes 0

SNP had 56* not 59 before (59 of total Scottish seats, lib dems, labour and Tories had one each).*until two became independent after scandal

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You should have used another source than the daily mail for details on the SNP.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

Thank you! This was much more simplified and unbiased than my google search yesterday trying to understand U.K. Politics.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Well written and informative. Thank you!

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You imply the house of commons will dissolve. Do you think that the parties will not be able to compromise well enough to function?

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I learned a lot, but most entries were told from the point of view that liberalism is "correct" and deviance from it is bad.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

yep, well done. i could niggle about a couple of minor points but it's all pretty close

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

2 Things we can take from the election 1. Scotland doesn't another referendum. 2 Everyone is fed up with our politicians.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Fuck the DUP so much. I hate the cunts so much

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

"Tea Party Insanity". Yes, it's insane to want smaller government, fiscal responsibility, accountability, a balanced budget, etc., etc.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 6

only if its what a majority of the population wants, then its rational, if people are against it, its obviously insane. thats politics

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

thanks for this! I've been looking for a simple & concise explanation like this for years.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Thanks so much for this!

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

And the Prime Minister is just the leader of the majority party or coalition. Oh and there's no law that establishes the position.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Well (and this may be unwritten) it's the person the Queen believes has the greatest prospect of forming a government

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

So in the 2010 election she could have chosen Brown had she thought the Lib Dems were going to work with him and not the Torys

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I live in the US with a Canadian wife and plenty of friends in the UK. Well done with this, it's spot on.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Just to clarify, very few DUP voters actually like the party and vote for them purely on the basis that they are not SF.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

Vote Alliance? or UUP? or SDLP?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The DUP then take this as some sort of mandate to pursue their bigoted views in respect to gays. Our politics are depressing as fuck...

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

They'd rather be robbed by a Protestant than led by a Catholic

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

yes and no, I think its more to do with there being no viable alternative unionist party but that certainly plays a role for some.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I don't get how the media that supports May is a problem for her? Sounds like the same shit they did for Tony Abbot in Aus.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

They could have told her her (now resigned) advisors were idiots before she called the election.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

They could have, but they wouldn't. I see the Murdoch press as chaotic evil. They don't care as long as they get money.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Our voting system is flawed beyond belief, DUP get 300,000 total votes and 10 seats and green get 500,000 and one seat...

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

May can fuck off, she didn't even reveal her full policies but attacked corbyn for his, fucking Bitch!

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 4

She also avoided TV debates

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Plus she straight up lies, she only called an election because she wanted more power (seats) to do watever she wants but it's turned on her!

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

She did say that's what she wanted though (albeit with no mention that the poll numbers were what made her go for it)

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

She did at least say from the outset that she wasn't going to attend.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I'm not really in favour of the debates as they're not actually debates.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

They're just trying to say something witty / avoid saying something stupid with an eye to the news broadcasts in the days following.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Also aligning with DUP means our gov. will not be seen as impartial in Ireland discussions this could spark off more trouble over there

8 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 2

Don't worry lad the people who cause trouble never saw Britain as impartial

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

One has to hope and pray it's not capital T Trouble

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Corbyn's a wet blanket when he's not a gibbering moron and May is essentially the devil. Fun times really.

8 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 14

This post was balanced and informative so I figured it needed some hyperbole to give it that Imgur flair, carry on.

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 4

good summary of the system and parties. I'd like to add that the alignment between Tories and DUP isn't a formal coalition but a...

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

supportive role where they can back them on policies, and are not bound together as leading the country. This makes the new government...

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

much weaker than it was previously as the tories lost seats and thus will have a harder time getting legislation through the commons...

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

as they will need all of the Tories and DUP to vote by party and not their conscious to get anything through the commons.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Basically, for once Northern Ireland actually matters in Westminster. It's a shame we're gonna get fucked over tho

8 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 1

Well...only matters when May is terrified of losing power. She doesn't care about NI. None of them do.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

what about the good friday agreement? won't sinn fein have to be offered the same as the dup under the power share GFA terms?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Isnt there things though in the GFA that both parties have never got? when i lived in england no one knew anything about NI. They didnt even

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

care....odd to make a whole post for a word lol

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You're going to get so much pork you'll be able to have Ulster Fry for every meal.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Huh didn't know about that little fact about the DUP. Things will get interesting then.

8 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 2

The DUP are extreme right wing nutters. Half of them are creationists for crying out loud

8 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

Now the issue will come to the forefront of the good Friday agreement.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

They're in a position now where they can very effectively block border polls so there's really no extra need for meddling

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Nah the GFA isn't gonna be endangered. They don't like power sharing, but not even May is stupid enough to open that can of worms

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

A lot of https://order-order.com/2017/06/09/__trashed-14/ seems reasonable to me in a traditional conservative way.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

But yeah, socially/religiously they're very much out of step with the mainland UK.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

No. 2. Fuck off DUP.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I think it needs reform. There's no way that Strictly Come Dancing and its ilk justify being part of a compulsory subscription.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The compulsory subscription and no advertising is what enables it to be the most respected broadcasting and news organisation in the world.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Why does Top Gear require a contribution from everyone in the UK who watches TV but The Grand Tour doesn't?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

DUP Coalition Aims from 2015 - https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DB9o6sKXkAE1xsS.jpg:large

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

A reasonable manifesto doesn't stop them from still being pro-death penalty, anti-abortion, creationists who hate catholics.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Well if it means Bonfire Night stops being over shadowed by Halloween they have my vote

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Though, Bonfire Night celebrations have been going more pro-Fawkes recently. Not sure their catholic hate likes that.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Very interesting, but also don't get how they want to reach all those tax cuts and stuff and improve services but increase the Army Budget?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I don't think that can be achieved honestly.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It can be if they're thinking NI only for some of the bits

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

FPP means the most votes per area wins. You can have a losing party with more votes because they haven't won enough individual seats.

8 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

On the other hand FPTP means you can very effectively remove a bad MP and party appointments are restrained a little

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Preferential voting probably would have delivered a Labour government.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Bring on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_transferable_vote! Big up the Lib Dems :V!

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yep, we have it in Australia. Means you can vote for who you want, put the one of the two you don't want last and not waste your vote.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

We've got preferential voting for london mayoral, but the referendum a while ago had the papers saying, "Oh no you just won't understand."

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

We also have compulsory voting - if the dumbest Australian can handle it I'm sure the people who bother to vote in the UK can :P

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

See also: SNP vs UKIP results in 2015, although that's somewhat affected by number of seats each party ran in

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

For instance, this election saw Conservatives get about 43% and Labour 41%, but Conservatives got a lot more seats.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

If anyone has any other questions about UK politics, just ask!

8 years ago | Likes 38 Dislikes 6

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8 years ago (deleted Jun 10, 2017 9:00 AM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

yes because everyone here is on reddit too

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

What does "forming a government" mean/entail? In America, a new president doesn't form a new government, he takes over the existing one.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

So who will be the new prime minister

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

We have a Westminster style Parliament here, how do you not take up your seat? would you not forfeit over time.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Not at the moment (which is what Sin Feinn do)

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Interestingly you can't resign from your post as MP so if you want to step down you're appointed to a token crown position

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Such as the Chilten Hundreds which provides a conflict of interest and forces your dismissal

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Didn't the Tories already strike a deal with DUP? You make it sound as if it's still under consideration.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

It's not confirmed yet, labour are preparing in case Theresa May fails

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

1/ - It's not guaranteed. The Tories are planning on a supply and confidence plan, so it'll be more flexible than a coalition.

8 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

Just came out that they are looking for a formal coalition. Chief whip is in Belfast for talks.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

2/ - On top of that Sinn Fein have already come out and said that any deal would breach the Good Friday agreement.

8 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

3/ - As the UK government is meant to remain independent to my knowledge with NI affairs, which can't happen if a Unionist party is in power

8 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

This is the key point. DUP has awful policies. But ^ this part could be genuinely troublesome.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

4/ - Or at least, in a position of real influence.

8 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

What would it take for the Queen to take over again?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

A bloody miracle.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Jeremy as PM

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

If the House of Lords is not elected, how do they get in? What's the purpose of the House of Lords?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

See Part 2 :)

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Full of old people who used to be politicians, they also have hereditary peers who are only there as they were born into the right family.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

don't forget the cross benchers and religious leaders

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

describe your perfect Sunday.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

So prime minister can call for an election whenever they want?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Not 'any time' nowadays but they are very flexible. I'm going to do a Part 2, so please stay tuned and I will cover your question :)

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Thanks

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

No, a Fixed Term Parliament Act was introduced to prevent that happening unless MPs vote in favour of it

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I think that was a shame, the old system was a bit more tactical like deciding when to declare at cricket.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm an SNP voter in Scotland, I'm impressed at how neutral this post was. And accurate. Well done

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

Do you mind me asking what constituency?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Aberdeen South, unfortunately

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Bad times. Callum was a really good guy.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm sure he still is ;) dunno who the Tory voting cunts are round here though!

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Hello fellow SNPer!

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Yo! Edinburgh East here. Tommy Sheppard is our man.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Why dont you vote for John Snow ? Is it because he is a bastard ?

8 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 1

Andrew Neil would make a better PM

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It's because he knows nothing.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

He is king of the north.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

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8 years ago (deleted Jun 12, 2017 6:06 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

Snobbery on the part of people who don't realise the comments on the Guardian are just as retarded

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Here's some of the comments https://twitter.com/dmreporter

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8 years ago (deleted Jun 12, 2017 6:06 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

Daily Mail sandwiches truth between lies. Making something like a more believable Fox News for people who can read but not comprehend.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It'd be hilarious if it didn't result in things like what happened to Jo Cox.

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8 years ago (deleted Jun 12, 2017 6:06 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

As an American, all I really needed to know about British politics I learned by watching Black Adder.

8 years ago | Likes 57 Dislikes 3

Most of our royals can currently put on their own trousers at least.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Evolution is an amazing drug

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Except for the murder (maybe) House of Cards is about right.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

You can't learn everything from BlackAdder. You need to watch Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister too... ;)

8 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 0

YM and YPM were so masterful and I feel like the lessons of that show apply to (most) any larger bureaucracy.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

You also have to love how they really don't age.. the same issues keep coming around and around, keeping them revelent.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It's a good documentary.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Don't forget The Thick of it

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Love me a bit of Malcolm Tucker

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Just one thing; the DUP don't care about brexit for the border they care about it for popularity.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

NI voted 55% Stay, and the free travel with the republic is covered in a non-EU document called "the Free Travel Agreement",

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

We only care about Brexit because we export a lot of stuff to England, so we kinda need your economy not to tank

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

no one knows what to do with the border. can't have a documents free border from uk/eu, can't ask roi to do uk border job at roi/eu side 1/2

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

just to keep roi/uk common travel area (eu wouldn't allow it). can't have internal uk border ni/gb (unacceptable & ridiculous to most) 2/3

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

very few either side of border actually want hard border back, but hard to see other viable options. there's going to be goods tariffs too

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It's not really unacceptable to EU, considering we aren't and never have been part of the EU common travel area

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

i'm talking about free movement of people within eu regs, not schengen. also roi cannot physically control who may or may not cross roi-uk

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

ROI and Britain never signed up the Schengen, and our FTA is completely separate to EU legislation. The border is a social issue, not legal.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Op, I really enjoyed it, very fairly written. Just one question; why mention the IRA in relation SF but not the UVF in relation to the DUP?

8 years ago | Likes 36 Dislikes 3

SF had a more "official" association with the IRA whereas with the DUP it's more a coincidental overlap of the same interests.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

The UDP/PUP on the other hand are/were directly linked.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Because the DUP isn't linked the UVF the PUP are David Irvine's old party

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Or the UDA where the DUP still have ties to. It's what im finding hypocritical in the british press atm.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Because in all honesty, I didn't know. For a layman like me (with no knowledge of NI) I'm aware of the Sinn Fein-IRA link but not DUP-UVF

8 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 1

Don't worry mate u still right

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Fair enough! Give it some research, it's well worth a look.

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

In fairness the uk doesn't educate very well to do with Northern Ireland

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Probably because the IRA is the famous one, at least over here... I suppose it makes sense the IRA must have been fighting someone,

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I sort of thought they were just fighting England. <_<

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

Historically that is their aim, but the period most people know them from (troubles) it all got a bit less black and white

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Then the IRA retaliated so the BA upped their game too, then there was about 6 flavours of IRA to deal with

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The largest ones, the ones still linked to SF, only attacked military or political targets and avoided civilian casualties at all costs

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

A smaller but oft-mistaken group, the INLA, were the ones who tortured and murdered just for religion

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The British Army were originally brought in to defend the catholics from the UVF and UDA, but then there was a bit of a mutiny of sorts

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0