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storebrandproductmascot
You sure told that stock photo a thing or two!
Zeuski
"analysing statistics on insurance, crime rates and driving test results" the article talks about insurance rate and speeding
Potatochaos
I'm going to believe this article, clearly a website named girl.com in French wouldn't be bias in anyway. /S
latenightdayman
Then why do i have a panic attack every time my wife drives?
jery007
Look at all is guys taking offense. It is an average. Woman are safer drivers (generally) men are better at double shifting (generally) !
Kelsen45
I disagree. Men are definitely better drivers then women
thatguybutonline
Safer =/= better
belovedlover
Almost died today bc of some blond who just turned right over a parallel sidewalk without looking, while using her phone.
joot
Insurance companies have known this for decades.
MyAndyNi
U are a better driver if u don’t drive. It’s a proven fact.
electronicbovine
It's really a phone using thing, not a gendered thing. Phone using drivers deserve to get every red light, forever.
Evilguy123
Now im no expert but i think more women voted than men
IDidntDoIt
I've always heard that women are in more minor accidents and men are in major accidents. But that minor accidents happen a lot often.
IDidntDoIt
Again, just what I've heard, so I'm not sure the truth in it.
Dyslexicbirch
The comment section is gonna be full of hate seems theres more men on imgur
YouL0stTheGame
It’s not.
LordoftheStarsduh
Let all the angry men rant and complain, commence.
SlightlyDodgy
Friday Friday friday
mellasay
My husband is a better driver than I am because when he gets mad he drives slow and when I get mad I drive like Im wearing >
mellasay
Gas soaked pj's in hell.
ukalliq
The auto insurance industry has known this for decades.
Skevoid
Their conclusion was entirely based on the number of accidents. Giraffes are rarely in car accidents, I guess they're fantastic drivers?
MoreAshyThanLarry
Yeah, insurance companies have know this for a long time.
kalari38
You can believe it, because they have no agenda other than “make money”
TheDrunkenWrench
"Less expensive payouts" =/= "better driver". It just means better for your bottom line.
Starhaven350
oneoilybird
perfect.
MarvinTheMartiansDog
She could be a female version of Hightower and so tall she has to drive from the backseat
Spinzaku
Article by Elle magazine, I am sure it is completely unbiased xD
thegreatestrapperaliverunnerup
It was a women’s led study and they accidentally studied cooking abilities and not driving.
cosmicapotheosis
best chefs in the world are men
storebrandproductmascot
Cringe.
Allworknoplay82
And Asian women are the best of the best.
DatSEAsian4ever29
Was this one of their bloopers? Soo damn cute ?
IIBM
real talk its not actually about race. In china you basically buy a license especially if you have money. This is why they cant drive well.
JifLover
"Old" Asian women are absolutely the best drivers. What a pleasure they are on the road. Such a pleasure.
thegelatoking
AggressiveChickenSandwich1
Did you see the Canadian cop explain to an Asian mom leaving their kid in a hot car is child abuse?
puffcorn237
My mom won't drive after dark and I'm sure the general population thanks her for that decision
bugeyetex
My ex used to think I was racist because I could point out Asian drivers from 200 feet away. She later learned where stereotypes come from.
Allworknoplay82
IMayNotReplyToYou
I'm suprised you're not shot down for being racist as this is imgur, regardless of how many facts you give. I'm happy now
CanadianCobraChicken
I'm born and raised in a part of the city with elderly and Asian drivers. Stereotypes are usually there for a reason.
IMayNotReplyToYou
I was called racist for saying asian drivers are crap, even after pointing out why, and being able to correctly spot asian drivers in NZ
jakeinthehood
My ex thought helicopters were powered by the wind. No fucking joke
IMayNotReplyToYou
Hahahahahahaha, did she also eat only natural and organic food?
IGenerallyPostThumbsUpGifs
pineapples555
After living in Asia for years, you learn there's truth behind the driving stereotypes (obviously doesn't apply to every person)
pineapples555
Main factors would be people not showing enough attention to their surroundings. This is so common, even with people walking on the sidewalk
pineapples555
And people stressed out, or tired from a lack of sleep (Japan), also, the majority of people I met needed glasses or contacts
IMayNotReplyToYou
Actually no, the biggest reason is their test. A woman passed her driving test in China whilst sitting in the back seat... of a another car!
DeadlyEnzyme
I’m gonna assume the metric is reported accidents and not “taking 30 minutes to figure out how to parallel park then swiping”
CasualBoulder
Tbf, this is old news. Men have had higher car insurance rates for over since at least the 90's. Source: parents were insurance agents.
FussyZeus
IIRC I read the split is more accurately said that women have more accidents, but their accidents are usually small like fender benders 1/
FussyZeus
in parking lots, backing into signs, that kinda shit. Men have much fewer accidents but more often than not, our accidents result in 2/
FussyZeus
totaled vehicles. So, our insurance is more expensive because our accidents, while fewer and farther between, cost a lot more to fix. 3/3
Doshegotabooty
Studies on this take into account mileage. People aren’t idiots.
whatthehell13
People most certainly are idiots. That's why flat earthers and anti vaxxers are a thing.
neoritter
If they used any real metric they used that one, but than forgot on average men drive more & and accounting for mileage women get in more.
Droopyface
Just like the earnings gap.
imn0tg00d
Yeah any time I'm with a girl and we have to drive somewhere, I'm driving 95% of the time.
AlkeneThiol
Correct. God I would love to be in a relationship where a girl drove me around. Ah. Maybe in a true feminist world someday.
dontdownvotemebruh
let them think whatever they want. this is how we stay sane.
DramaticInternetNonsense
France : most dangerous accidents are made by men while the little ones are made by women. So yep
YouHadMeAtAsian
So which ones happen most often? cause I feel like that in itself effects the outcome.
11343
yeah its like 10 of 100 women will scrape on a wall while parking (for example); 5 of 100 men will fly off the road at 80 km/h during 1/
11343
the winter while attempting to drive like rallye drivers, so its less accidents but it's still not better lol
getadogupya
Young men are huge risk takers. Add in overconfidence, and bingo.
TheDrunkenWrench
Yup. I turn 31 next month. The though of driving like I did at 16 terrifies me. I feared nothing.
CheekyBreeki
That's the problem in a nutshell..."16".
LtMuffintoes
Women have more accidents per mile, but men cause more damage, because their accidents are at higher speeds with heavier vehicles
CrusherOfCities
Also, insurance companies spend less on fender benders because of deductibles and lower risk of filing claims.
DigitalBang
women get out of more tickets, and hit and run more. All those Mysterious dings you get in parking lots? Every one of my ex GF's work.
QuamvisSintSubAqua
Getting the groceries vs driving twelve hours to the holiday beach...
RecurringNightmare
also women have the tendency to drive overcarefully, provoking to be rear-ended, which always gives at least partial fault to the other >
RecurringNightmare
> driver, which statistically is often male, because more men drive and men are more likely to fail anticipating shit they wouldnt do...<<<
meezymurder
I don't know where you live, but here in Washington in my experience I am being tailgated by an impatient female driver more than male.
Deadlyfire
When men get in accidents, it’s not because they can’t drive, it’s because they’re more aggressive drivers that take higher risks.
LovesToSpooge517
no risk no reward
Cardboardhero85
I wonder how much of these stats take into accounts the disparity in vehicles driven. IE there are more male truckers & work vehicle IYKWIM
LtMuffintoes
Well it's per mile, so what is there to take into account? Of note is that women tend to drive familiar routes, while men drive more
Cardboardhero85
Heavier vehicles will cause more damage at same spèd compared to lighter vehicles
LtMuffintoes
Accidents. Per mile. Perhaps you should read my first post in this thread where I specifically put "heavier vehicles".
LtMuffintoes
unfamiliar routes more often than women.
IMayNotReplyToYou
True. More men are truckers and van drivers so more crashes are due to men than women, BUT percentage wise women have more crashes
imjustalurkerdontmindme
Sauce please? ...I'm a dude I just like facts
IMayNotReplyToYou
Google "do more women have crashes than men" I did it whilst I was on the shitter
imjustalurkerdontmindme
I guess I can put work into something I'd like to know lol
TechnicallyRight
Is it because on average women drive less than men, and thusly have less time to be in accidents? hmmm almost like its a skewed stat.
kiara8942000
Studies show that statistics cause us to make generalizations instead of judging on a case by case basis.
Doshegotabooty
Nope. Every study that proves this adjusts for miles driven.
LtMuffintoes
You do understand what "per mile" means, right?
brusilov
It's because men engage in risk taking behaviour more often
IMayNotReplyToYou
Yep. Males take more risks for the fun reward, that's why there are way more male motorcyclists that have decent bikes etc. But women still
IMayNotReplyToYou
Crash more when divided by the number of female drivers (percentage of drivers who crash is higher for women than men)
LtMuffintoes
Which is why their insurance rates are higher.
ObviousObservationMan
Yup. Because female’s accidents frequently have to be paid under the deductible so the insurance company pays only a little.
IMayNotReplyToYou
They're the same here now, which just means we all paid more
BrisketSandwich24
Insurance doesn't care about per mile. Only about cost over time period.
LtMuffintoes
...yes, you have restated the original point.
BrisketSandwich24
Just agreeing by adding to it good lieutenant muffintoes
Threewisemen
Insurance companies wouldn't need to account for per mile anyways. You don't pay for your vehicle insurance per the mile.
LtMuffintoes
No, so when you're talking about insurance rates, you calculate based on the probable cost of risk, which is higher for men.
LtMuffintoes
In contrast to the question, "which sex makes better drivers?" to which the per mile accident rate is relevant.
ImJustHereToFckSpiders
Which is bullshit, I've never been in an accident and I still pay more. Make the fuck ups pay.
notaballoon
That's not how insurance works
LtMuffintoes
Statistically, you are going to cost the insurance company more, so it's logical for them to charge you more.
ImJustHereToFckSpiders
Like charging women more for health insurance? Also, that doesn't fly when I don't have a choice but to buy it.
LtMuffintoes
I mean, they cost more healthcare dollars, so if a company wants to profitably offer health insurance it has to charge them more?
ladoys
It’s okay to discriminate, but only when money is involved
ImJustHereToFckSpiders
Werent people throwing a fit not too long ago about women's health insurance costing more?
ladoys
Haven’t heard. People should pay the same when it comes to insurance regardless of sex
Leevalleyoftheshadowofdeath
Well they made a vague, general statement about an entire population without providing any statistical data seems legit to me
ImGoingToEatAllYourApples
I mean, it is just a headline... You're probably right but it is just the headline.
dannne
In Sweden men stand for 70-80% of traffic violations.
Darkspire
Even with statistical data, it's useless. Stats are super easy to manipulate.
ICanHasJava
Yeah, stereotypes are way more accurate!
Rektastic
gotta get dem clicks for dat shweet ad revenue
Zenislav
This is so common for articles that aim at women. Almost like they write them just to boost confidence.
Deleteded
Girl power!
CasualBoulder
Tbf, this is old news. Men have had higher car insurance rates for over since at least the 90's. Insurance statistics show men are more 1/2
ttosca
They're safer drivers - in general.
CrusherOfCities
But insurance rates factor in damages vs deductibles. The concept of "driving safely" doesn't, and is subjective based on how one defines it
TaterTits
This exactly. Insurance analysts are constantly researching market trends. They don't rely on Buzzfeed articles aimed at women.
BrisketSandwich24
But they also raise your rates if you live in a high crime area or make claims even when you aren't at fault. So insurance rates = driving
BrisketSandwich24
Skill. This whole argument is an interesting way to think about defining terms and how data can be manipulated to say what you want.
CasualBoulder
Likely to DUI, or end up in a fatal accident. Source: parents worked in insurance for 15 years
Scalam1
Yet females are more likely to be driving distracted
IAmTheKingOfCheese
That's only partial stats though. Men also generally do more driving which pushes up the numbers of accidents etc
Steven054
I think men are more likely to engage in risky behavior, but women do shit like put on makeup and paint their nails while driving.
muggybonehead
“Likely” is not “mostly”. Wouldn’t insurance stats take into account amount of driving?
IAmTheKingOfCheese
Not really. All they care about is the likelihood of someone making a claim. Which is why they use only accident numbers
storebrandproductmascot
The article is about a study that determines that. What you're seeing is the headline. Did you expect to see statistical data in a headline?
thatsmynametoo
Women Better At Understanding The Conventions of Headlines
CanOnlySayYes
Yes
geezn
The study analyses the amount of people caught speeding, and how much they pay in insurance due to infractions, that in no way translates
geezn
directly into being a worse driver, it just means men are less likely to care about to consequences or maybe you could say more reckless
storebrandproductmascot
Wait, so "more reckless" doesn't equal less safe?
geezn
Yes, but as the other commenters mentioned, the article stated skilled not careful. The best drivers I know are quite a bit reckless and /2
Deleteded
It says better drivers. Not safer drivers. You can still be more skilled while exceeding speed limits than someone driving slowly.
RealScienceMan
More reckless in a very very specific way does not.
Jineapple
I guarantee you whatever study they are citing does not support the claim the headline makes.
asmallcat
I mean, it almost certainly does, since it's been known for literally decades that women are safer drivers than men, which is why they 1/2
Jineapple
Safer is not the same as better though, and even "safer" can be a bit ambigious here.
asmallcat
have such lower insurance rates. However, this is because men tend to get in more serious accidents, while women get in more fender 2/3
asmallcat
benders. So if you think less serious accidents can be called better, then the data supports them. 3/3
mydailydoseofantidepressantsisyourbooty
Just so you’re aware, the insurance thing you said is very skewed. Men pay more on average if you include people below the age of 25. (1)
Qualtagh
And here we see what is known as bias. Making and spreading assumptions without attempting to read up on the data.
Jineapple
"Better" is a very vague term in this context which could impossibly be shown in a study. Would be the same with reversed genders.
Qualtagh
"Better" is exactly the kind of term that is general enough to fit in a headline and convey meaning to be specified in the gd article.