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James Spader gives a masterful performance against suicide.
National Suicide Prevention Hotline. Call em: 1-800-273-8255
cousinchristmas
Not a good argument to the suicidal. Go look up randy newman's I just want you to hurt like I do.
IShouldJustKeepMyMouthShut
Do this: read about the matter before you shit out your opinion; for instance: why people commit suicide. Suicide is not terrorism.
SirBrendan
No, this is both unhealthy and unfair. Yes, we should try to live for our loved ones. No, we should not try to live out of guilt and shame
SomeCrazyNerd
It's not saying. It's saying apreading your auffering to other people is not helping anything.
supersomatic
Yeah, make someones attempt to kill themselves about other people. That will make them feel wanted.
littlemisspris
I've been dealing with severe depression and suicidal thoughts. I needed to read this
PluckedDuck
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b33pb00p
sauce https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urZxLdrwcbQ&t=19s
Rayvens
You da MVP
Conejito
They won't feel it as bad if you just "disappear" *taps forehead*
EDarwin
Damn. I kinda needed that. Sometimes I think that if I kill myself everyone will be better off. This reminds me of the reality.
Piornet
I think it's incredibly selfish that we would want to make someone stay in pain and suffering so we don't have to feel sad about their death
Piornet
Like "nope, sorry you're in constant pain. If you died I'd be all bummed, so keep suffering so I feel good. Thanks!"
thorkun
Or even "please dont die so I'd have to feel like I failed as a friend, I would carry that for the rest of my life!"
anindyameister
Can't terrorise anyone if noone cares about you. *Head tap*
kepler20c
I care about you, and I don't even know you.
anindyameister
Damn !! What do I do with this fancy bleach cocktail then ?
kepler20c
Your laundry, some clean towels will make tomorrow's shower extra refreshing.
anindyameister
ShrimBegin
Fuck this shit.
twatswatterphilosopher
He creeps me out, but I think he's a genius.
TITANEUM
Well, now I'm going to just do it out of spite.
audioknob
Nobody loves me or has ever cared about me. Can I kill myself?
gshowitt
It wouldn't matter if anyone did; your life is yours to do what you want with, that's your right.
thorkun
You can, but whether or not you should is another question.
SerpentWearer
I keep seeing the argument that suicide is selfish and to think of others, but what of the reverse? I know people just want to help, but 1/3
SerpentWearer
I've seen too many people genuinely want to end their tortured existence for me to believe that it is right to want someone to live 2/3
SerpentWearer
when that is their act of free will to do so. An effort should be made, but persistence is just as selfish as the original argument. 3/3
SomeCrazyNerd
I think people should always seek help and it is always solvable. So I don't really want to just let them do it.
Dawnstempest
It depends on the reasons for why they want to end their life. And an attempt, a non guilt tripping attempt should ALWAYS be made.
SerpentWearer
I agree that an attempt should be made, as there are times when someone has fell upon rough times and just needs support. Not always though.
Dawnstempest
Nope, but across the board the best attempt humanly (or otherwise) possible MUST be made. And after that, it's their decision.
circlebreaker
I know, right? People tried this B.S. with homosexuals & addicts for years (some still do). So now they're turning it loose on suicidal 1/
circlebreaker
people by calling them "emotional terrorists"? FFS, this PSA is ham-fisted garbage. PS A Palestinian terrorist with C4? Not happening... 2/2
tornbetweenscyllaandcovfefe
The 2 are hardly relatable.
ThatNoPicklePeeThatNoPumpARum
This is honestly a horrible mindset to have in terms of failed attempts. Don't make it about you.
SomeCrazyNerd
As opposed to the idea "fuck peolle who will ve affected by it of you have some whim to end it just kill yourself"?
thedevil
Great idea, equating people already at their breaking point with terrorists. I'm sure that won't make things worse...
icookfoodandfightfire
thats why you drive those who might love you away till youre totally and completely alone and then end it. Hurts no one in the end
magmadar
i lose my uncle to suicide , this hits very close to home and is 100% true. then again if people want to die , let them die.
Zulkier
That's a very brave opinion for someone who has grieved
BitchButcher
Is that a "Pro Life" vs. "Pro Choice" post? It's her body, so isn't it her right to do with it whatever she wants?
SomeCrazyNerd
Not when she's doing something irrational that solves nothing. Unless you have an inncurable torturous medical condition you should fight it
pillowcrab
I really hate all of the suicide shaming. "But it's a tool." You know what you can also use as a tool? Compassion.
verifiedshitlord
This attitude makes me sick every time I see it. There are many ways to help suicidal people. This is one is neither effective nor fair.
Lylos
Wait how is it not fair?
talonic
Which ALSO isn't fair, but as a rule people who are suicidal aren't exactly thinking rationally, and one needs to allow for that. Shitsux.
talonic
"You feel worthless and like anything you do does nothing but hurt people? Let's give you a soliloquy about how exactly correct you are~~"
spookhook
I suppose that's one interpretation? The other is a reminder that though you don't feel loved you are, there's people all around you
talonic
Yes, because people in a suicidal mindset always look for the most optimistic interpretation. (Sorry. That sounds needlessly antagonistic.)
spookhook
Well I did so I can honestly say at least one did. Every time this post comes up I try to say something. People tend to hate it but whatever
WhytWu1f
Neither is suicide.
verifiedshitlord
You sure got me. Let's shame the suffering person into inaction and hope they continue to suffer quietly to keep me comfortable. Fuck off.
WhytWu1f
No, dumbass. There's time for compassion before and after. In the moment, you say what they need to hear to get through.
verifiedshitlord
That isn't what they need to hear. It adds unnecessary guilt and puts your concerns over theirs. Offer help without callous guilt-tripping.
thadken
While I get where you are coming from, it's not like people are trained to talk people off the ledge in the moment. He acted in character.
Kuchiri
You realize he's being tough on her so she will listen to the story to feel the weight of suicide right? HE isn't being a dick to be a dick.
nycterelis
Uhm? Excuse you.
WhytWu1f
? Are you saying suicide is fair? Because I'm literally saying "suicide isn't fair". I believe that's the entire point of this post.
nycterelis
I was saying your view point is selfish. The sorrow and pain a person feels when their loved one commits suicide is a horse shit reason 1/2
nycterelis
To make the depressed individual live. And it's selfish. Fuck off with that shit.
honeyham420glazeit
James Spader is a treasure.
Tylvian
I feel this is good but also, well shit. Suicide isn't ABOUT others.
Zulkier
Ya, this is blackmail and completely unhelpful. Telling someone they have to suffer so that others can continue being happy is not helpful.
sirbayer
Somebody ready to commit suicide doesn't care about themselves by definition. Motivation can only come from caring about others, sometimes.
bigassballs1
Actually it is. When you're dead you care about nothing. You leave behind only emotional scars and memories for everyone else to carry.
Tylvian
I would like to address the "but it'll hurt others" Its not their life, it doesn't matter how your status, happy/sad, affects another.
TotallyNotAMurderer
This was a great episode of The Blacklist. Spader is gold in EVERY episode
Howdotheyknowyodawasgreen
I literally watched this episode last night! I cant believe what happened with agent keen in the previous episode!! Noone else watches 1/2
Howdotheyknowyodawasgreen
It with me!! Im so lonely when it comes to watching shows
Blu8
Lol you're in for a treat
setitov
Literally the only reason to watch this otherwise horrible show.
TotallyNotAMurderer
Everything else is so bland until the scenes w/ Spader
TheGhostMinx
Spader is the only reason the show is good. I only watch it to hear his quirky stories and all that.
TotallyNotAMurderer
Agreed
surprisemotherfuckers
I want him for more stargate
ThisAintASurfinMovie
Just loved him and Shatner in Boston Legal, they made for a great team.
Isignedupforonecomment
Spader was the only reason I watched that show. I couldn't keep up though. The rest of the show wasn't working for me.
DuckFan87
Spader is gold in everything. Except in the Avengers. He was silver in that.
TheRealSpaghettiMonster
He was bronze in that at best. Good performance, but a sucky, sucky version of Ultron.
CMFMTNPPL
U deserve more upvotes
GeezMomEnlightenUp
Touche.
Kierbear2g
vibranium actually.
Vaellyth
I'm missing something. Was he really in The Avengers? D: I MUST KNOW!
OleCali
He was Ultron
Vaellyth
Oh, when people said Avengers I thought they meant the first movie, which I've seen a bunch. Didn't know he was Ultron tho! O: Thanks! ^-^
NVRSCR
Ha! Fantastic.
WhyTheHellAreUsernamesSoHardToThinkOf
I liked ultron... he's like that witty uncle at Christmas that wants to destroy mankind
TheRealSpaghettiMonster
Which is not in the slightest bit what Ultron is supposed to be...he was funny, yeah, but it just wasn't right...
WhyTheHellAreUsernamesSoHardToThinkOf
To each their own. I'm sure somewhere is a character you enjoyed but I didnt. Celebrate differences
blakeatwork
Shiny and chrome!
DuckFan87
I will carry you into Valhalla myself!
CranRightia
This misses the point in a manner most horrifying. Suicide isn't about other people, and comparing it to terrorism is borderline psychotic.
Conejito
This. Thank you. The comparison is not equivalent in the slightest.
PrettyTallPaul
Don't get your trousers in a bunch. It's completely natural to feel anger and remorse towards our loved ones who choose to leave us behind.
Zulkier
It is natural but this line of reasoning isn't helpful to the person wanting to commit suicide and won't prevent it happening
PrettyTallPaul
Some people seem to disagree, as evident in the comments saying "this post made me consider not committing suicide." 1/2
PrettyTallPaul
But I do see your point. This probably only works on a case by case basis and i'd imagine there are more effective/nurturing ways to prevent
PrettyTallPaul
Suicide.
schmoog
Honestly it has nothing to do with others, and these thoughts amplify the thought of I should remove myself from everything
skybeater
Agreed that it has nothing to do with others, you don't owe people shit. However maybe holding on will pay off for yourself.
SimonHK
Please don't. I'm going through a terrible time right now, the worst time in my life. Bu I know it will get better. Talk to me.
PluckedDuck
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schmoog
SimonHK
Oh ok then. Just reaching out to a fellow Imgurian. I hope you sort your troubles out :)
SpinnerMask
I honestly hate things like this that trivialise suicide. Guilting the person who is suicidal into staying alive by making them feel worse
MagnorCriol
But this isn't trivializing suicide. It's explaining how it's anything BUT trivial.
MagnorCriol
Also, this isn't about guilt. It's about letting them know the impact of their action & that their "easy way out" is NOT easy for others.
SpinnerMask
I would argue that saying its an easy way out is still trivializing it. It misunderstands why some people commit suicide. 1/2
SpinnerMask
While both calling the person selfish, and making them feel bad for thinking of it. Suicide isn't about feeling unwanted. 2/3
SpinnerMask
Its about feeling that the world hurts too much to stay in. (Now feeling unwanted and unloved can do this. But it isn't what causes it.) 3/3
SpinnerMask
(a better way to phrase it might be that death would be preferable to staying alive.)
SpinnerMask
It doesn't work like that. Some just want everything to stop and end.
Dawnstempest
And it's those people that would have agreed with him, and then walked off calmly and killed themselves.
spudpicker
I've never really felt suicidal, so I may not understand, but don't those feelings come and go? 6 months down the road, a person might 1/
spudpicker
see their life improve, get on the right medication, or otherwise feel more positive. Many suicidal people are ultimately glad they lived.
HelloIAmAnInnocentBystander
That's the thing with suicide: you literally cannot think about a happy future anymore. You loose the capacity to project yourself.
HelloIAmAnInnocentBystander
This ted talk is quite good on this subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1QoyTmeAYw
SpinnerMask
Something to keep in mind is that each person is a unique individual. For some that might be the case. 1/?
SpinnerMask
But Depression and Anxiety,(common things that lead to it.), are often life long conditions. Treated, rather then cured. 2/?
TobascoPanda
BlackDragoness
When 13, neighbour was hurt in a suicide bombing. She survived, but everything on her burned. Watch, necklace, earrings melted into her skin
SexDungeonsandDragons
Wouldn't breaking that glass risk hurting the chicks?
Axises
They were protected from harm by a thick coating of unicorn ejaculate
skeletormccaig
YonderOver
Pretty sure they'd have placed them in after the cut...
SexDungeonsandDragons
Yeah, but I'm choosing to suspend my disbelief here for the sake of the bit. :P
SomeCrazyNerd
Cute can never be harmed. Cute is immortal.
liliantbn
In that case, the chicks had a plastic barrier between them and the top half so the shards don't reach them.
SexDungeonsandDragons
Thank you for trying to ease my concern.
YonderOver
Then they had a magical forcefield surrounding them.
SexDungeonsandDragons
Thank you for trying to ease my concern, and simultaneously make me believe in Magic.
TheMershedPerderder
Yeah but what happens when you feel like no one loves you? That you don't have loved ones?
PuppiesAreMyHappyPlace
Then you live for yourself, or you don't. There's always a choice. To provide a balanced perspective amid the forced positivity...
pilotperson
Unrelated: I call potatoes "perterters" and your username made me laugh out loud!
shmantelopes
Molecules are bound to collide. Its impossible to know the little and big ways you affect people.
ImFirecrackerJimGoddamnit
Yeah, I hate arguments like that. It's basically saying you should only not commit suicide if you have people who love you.
ImFirecrackerJimGoddamnit
"No one loves you? No reason not to off yourself." Fuck that.
PluckedDuck
https://YouTu.be/UJpTVo5g7yE
eilletane
People love in different ways. It could feel like they don't but you never know how they are actually feeling.Sometimes even they don't know
HeroThatWasNeeded
Then live for yourself and only yourself. You need no love, only strength and willpower.
Snickerdoodle2
You never know who you have impacted and how much people care. I learned that the hard way when my childhood best friend killed herself 1/2
Snickerdoodle2
3 years ago. I had briefly tried to reconnect with her, but she didn't seem interested, so I dropped it. I still feel guilty about it today.
Snickerdoodle2
We hadn't talked in years, but she was the best friend I ever had, and I would have done anything to keep her here if I had known.
PluckedDuck
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SomeCrazyNerd
There's always someone. Anyone. Even just an acquaintance. A coworker. A cousin. An old forgotten friend.
TheMershedPerderder
"Oh, that person died, what a shame" *continues clicking around on facebook*
teh0khardic
Hardest part is convincing yourself that you love yourself. Start from the middle and work your way out, if it works please get back to me
teh0khardic
because I'm still trying to work out the trick to it
PluckedDuck
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liliantbn
There was a 13yr old girl drank chlorine in kitchen. Mom called 911. Ambulance guy said she grabbed him and begged him to save her, she 1/2
liliantbn
2/2 didn't want to die. Her 15 yr old brother mocked and was relentless mean with her and mom critical and negative all the time. She had /3
liliantbn
3/ snapped and done it but wanted to live. She died as they reached the hospital. He couldn't forget her. Sorry too dark. Point is please /
liliantbn
4/ wait, let the dark moment pass and later in your life you'll be glad you didn't.
WyrdJamie
Everyone feels that at some point. Hurting yourself is a way of inducing a reaction. If you feel like that, ask for help. 1/2
WyrdJamie
It's not easy, but there are hotlines & people who know you & care. Ignore the stupid confessions about being depressed; that's about 2/3
WyrdJamie
attention. When you need help, it is so hard to acknowledge & ask. If you recognize something is wrong, you can choose do do something. 3/3
strugglesnuggler
Become a sky diver then forget to pull the parachute. Anyone who does care gets to pretend it was an accident.
liliantbn
Or they will be mortified with the uncertainty of if it was, and of the traumatic ending.
TheMershedPerderder
Too expensive, and I don't have the guts to jump
PluckedDuck
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strugglesnuggler
Accidents can be staged at home too. But leave an escape. Alot of jumpers who survived said they regretted doing so immediately.
HillOfBeans
That alone is reason to live. You have values. And value. And your username says you have a sense of humor. I value that. And you.
Atnaltis
There's always someone who loves you, and appreciates you, whether you realize it or not. There's always someone you affect, and that (1/2)
Atnaltis
Effect will always be massive. (2/2)
TheMershedPerderder
...or...they will just complain about how I should stop being so dramatic...
liliantbn
The person that complains is not the one you should listen to There's someone (or several ones) who care about you even though you don't see
HoneyBunchesOfStoats
1) When someone is in a depressive episode their brain is malfunctioning in a way that prevents them from believing what you’re describing.
HoneyBunchesOfStoats
2)A teacher explained it this way; imagine you’re wearing glasses with the lenses tinted blue. Red light is blocked by the lenses,
HoneyBunchesOfStoats
3) No matter how often people point out red things or how well they describe it you don't see it. You may understand intellectually that red
BlandNotBoring
Go love someone else! There are kids who need big brothers/sisters & adults in nursing homes who wld ADORE to 'adopt' you for visits!
ThatOneGuyPablo
Seriously make yourself go out and help someone. You will hate it at first but it helps
BlandNotBoring
Agree! It's hard to push initially thru the depression to shower, leave the house, move your body. But everyone is needed! They can see *c
PluckedDuck
https://YouTu.be/6tw8gXV3iUU
BlandNotBoring
Quickly the smile on others' faces as they return to visit/help. When you feel ppl are relying on you, it increases your self esteem X 1000
Kalid19
Even If you cant point to someone youd effect emotionally, theres still the inconvenience your death would cause on a physical level.
Kalid19
And. Theres always someone youll effect emotionally. Your neighbors, you coworkers/classmates, the emergency responders, family, old friends
Kalid19
Anyone who ever knew you or met you will wonder if they could have saved you. Because as self-centered as we are, we all recognise
Kalid19
The importance of life.
TheMershedPerderder
Good, it will haunt them.
Kalid19
Okay, our reasons for contemplating are very different. Mine was based on me not deserving to live. Yours seems to be a resentment for
balencedrago
I love you.
JimmySmits
You should get a job at Costco.
TheMershedPerderder
HillOfBeans
There's that sense of humor again.
nogoat23
That's what I feel like right now also, but I remind myself that it's just not true. There's always someone. Hang in there.
PluckedDuck
https://YouTu.be/Sx-SbHnJqho
teardropivyyearofthetiger
been to the bottom and realized the person who ❤you may not have met you yet. The person who needs you in their life. Stick around for them
yuraf
I was around the person, who needed my help, but as soon as she got her life in order, she dumped me.
hyrule1989
Myself, I'm not sold on the idea of continuing my suffering on the off chance I'll meet someone who will make me feel better.
MasterNateT
But what if you could be the person to help someone else to not suffer? That's why I make friends with people. Because I know what it's like
hyrule1989
No one's here NOW, why would there be anyone LATER?
PluckedDuck
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JPrince28
My entire life changed in one year. Like flipping a switch. Good luck, I hope you still have the will to work on whatever is ailing you!
customcartoons
Because the Universe never stays the same. Plants, animals, stars and planets. They are all changing. So is life here on this ball. 1/2
customcartoons
This is not to minimize your struggle. I came from the depths of self-loathing with medicine and counseling. With help, you can do it!
tonysdg
Ever shown up early to a party or something similar? It's no fun now. But it gets better once a friend or two arrives. Don't leave just yet.
Flenop
I'm not much of a fan of parties, and really I just end up masking how terrified and lonely I feel to help others feel better. Not a plus.