Dec 3, 2021 7:38 PM
MissySassy
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Nice to see parents being charged with taking responsibility
HellsHegemony
All three of them look like douche nozzles
WorstPostEver
Dad’s facial hair alone is a crime.
TheMeanGombeen
Reminds me of those “We birthed him, we know what’s best for him” idiots.
Flamingnub
some news sauce https://www.npr.org/2021/12/03/1061190344/michigan-school-shooting-parents-oxford-charged
DrGlowforce
cogwork
Good to see them use his mug shot and not some Sunday school pictures
spiceass9000
School should also be charged. The questioned him searched nothing and let him go back to class
dwideshruud
Cops are still searching for the parents.
HurricaneShade
As of now the parents are on the run!!
tonyiscariot
Dad looks like a low-rent Guy Fieri. Dude Fiero.
burglarsonlarceny
I feel like I need context… did they knowingly provide a gun or did they prove negligence?
LenWeirdracin
from stories, the dad bought the gun, mom mentioned present kid, went shooting with mom. But since it was never properly secured, neglect.
G0MeatCube
Is anybody surprised looking at these people... I fell bad for the families.
ChelVanin
Aaaaand they’re on the run. WTF
morninggloryshade777
Arrested now.
Moryrt
That’s not about the shooting, referring to him searching for ammunition during school hours. School contacted his parents about it
Sauce: https://twitter.com/nwarikoo/status/1466817920323960832?s=21
Jkbmoneymachine
The dad looks like a murder sim flash game Newgrounds contributor circa the year 2002 all grown up
PicklePunch
They charged the parents and now they're "missing" according to their attorney. Can't wait to see how they get caught and hauled in.
AKmom
Sandyhookpromise.org is a nonprofit trying to fight for better background checks and education for gun safety. Support them if you can!
fowlersleftfoot
Mannnn if you had asked me to draw the kid who did this without seeing him I would have been so spot on.
KamikazeGerbil101
AND now they are on the run ! Parents of the year !
Viscupelo
And it would seem they've made a run for it?
MatthewBecker
When your first reaction to hearing about a mass shooting at your son school is to be like oh shit that totally my son you done f up
Copperbrat
There's a guy who lives in the next town over who says "gotta be my kid" to every report of theft and vandalism on NextDoor.com. Not 1/
surprisingly, he's also been known to say "haha boys will be boys" when it's someone else. 2/2
DougForcett
This is an excellent legal precedent to set. The owner of the gun has to also be held accountable when a minor is involved.
Parthenon19
That precedent could have been set after Sandy Hook. Anyone can steal someone else’s gun and use it.
It should have been set then. But these shifting opinions take a long time.
That’s true. Such a tragedy.
Ana5ta51a
At first I thought this was unfair, then I learned more and changed my mind.
BabeAfett
Thelrishlnquistion
Jesus what an evil looking bunch of bastards
jayman0123
did you see the picture that the new york post used?
I did not no
It was a picture of the kid from 5 years ago or something like from a church choir
shawnemack
I’m also flabbergasted that the school let him go back to class after he was found making drawings depicting gun violence
They called the parents to take him home and they refused.
Thing is, i hear all the time where schools expel or suspend students for basically making a threat & his drawings would be just that.
Catsbycat
Makes you wonder why they refused
orangeyougladididntsaypoop
This is a case where i dont give a shit if the kid gets death penalty. Throw the parents in there, too
eightyearplan
We could be using science to (even better) build the case that X or Y are dangerous co-behaviors.. and A & B are good therapies..
(do that for all criminals and we could have better prevention and policy) + someone reformed trying to prevent others is valuable.
Yeah. Id say this little prick doesnt deserved to be reformed.
Did you say that about the last 200 little pricks? Good science can help us to help the next 200 before they snap.
I sure would. Not sure someone reformed can help with this, since this shit falls through the cracks. People cant be identified as psychos
treed240z
This is a start. This needs to become the minimum where the parents MUST be held accountable, seeing as thats how these turds get their guns
ImHereToGetDownvotes
Not just parents, but any gun owner, period. As a gun owner, it should be your responsibility to know where your guns are at all times 1/
and that they are safe & secure or else you are held accountable as an accessory due to your negligence. 2/2
LorindaLogan
Should have happened to Rittenhouse, too.
Raithryn
He is able own that riflle legally that's the difference. You can own a rifle with barrel longer than 16 in" at age 17in wisconsin
Don't think the families of the people he killed will care about that detail.
But not one that's semi-auto...that's 18, of which he was not.
ImAfraidYoureAllPsychosSoIMadeThisAccount
Worse yet, they bought their 15 year old a gun.
itsthevoiceman
Doesn't generally matter if gun ownership is responsible. Problem is, it's often not responsible.
jackd418
No they didn’t. He took his dad’s
0DapperDan0
No it was made very clear by himself and his parents that the gun was gift given to him.
I saw that and do apologize
I had a lot of friends who's parents bought them a gun at 15. But it was locked up in a safe with all the other guns. And only for hunting.
unluckyandbored
I grew up around guns. I was taught to handle them responsibly, and they were kept locked up when not needed.
AGiantTransWoman
This. You can own a gun under 16 with parents permission and purchase etc - but all guns should absolutely be locked up - no matter whose.
DirtRockets
I'd be concerned if parents (or anybody else) took proper safety precautions (not nutsoid American safety precautions) and was still charged
I'm all fine with it in this case, since they were... yeah, really, REALLY fucking negligent.
I think they should be automatically charged. Being convicted is a whole different story.
That's overall an extremely, extremely bad idea. What if it's not the parent's gun? Or they locked it up? That has to go to a grand jury to
Then it'll be pretty obvious that the parents are not at fault.
Which means they shouldn't be hit with charges at all. You're creating a precedent where probable cause of a crime is no longer required.
justify a charge. The precedent is... not good.
graehall
If they'd given him an assault rifle & driven him across state lines to a protest rather than a handgun to a school, they'd all be innocent!
dietcokeyo
Tate Myer ran toward the shooter https://meaww.com/amp/video-oxford-school-hero-tate-myre-viral-grief Now the loser can cry self defense!
tsaf210
That’s not even what happened in the rotten house case man. Jokes that exploit misinformation are pretty much propaganda
koops
IVIunk
FPMs, freedoms per minute
ElSnapster
I know what you mean, thank God for the 2nd
chrisinsocalif
No one used an assault rifle.
stusauce
The rifle didn't cross state lines, don't know why people bring that up. It was also like 15 minutes from his house. Not really relevant.
oobeedoobenubi
People love this state lines shit.
badpuppeh81
Schroedingers Broder, it exists and doesn't exist depending on the narrative being pushed.
TheThingsTheyCarried
Don't spread lies https://sports.yahoo.com/kyle-rittenhouse-didnt-illegally-bring-043226324.html
Gotta love Imgur! Get downvoted to all hell for trying to stop the spread of misinformation. Bunch of shitheads here.
GlowstickJedi
Is that REALLY the part of that post you have an issue with?
I have issues with misinformation, whatever the source. Don't spread lies.
Still used by a 17 year old then and it wasn’t legally his yet! What a bullshit argument
You say holy shit to my comment, check out the replies in defence of you know who for some proper holy shit.
Their sycophantic bootlicking and murder excusing is disgusting, isn’t it?
They LOVE that he murdered people & got away with it. Because they think those protesting police violence were subhuman & deserved to die.
ThisNameUnavailable
That's a massive strawman if I've ever seen one...
kookyabird
You do know the guy who actually gave Rittenhouse the rifle (and bought it for him) is being charged x2 for that right?
noctynight
HomerSimpsonsEvilTwin
Charged is not convicted.
dogwithahumanface
I'm sure he'll pay for his crimes just as much as Kyle has
duhitspollo
So if he gets charged, does that mean Rittenhouse wasn't supposed to have the rifle?
Vojens
No, the judge threw out those charges so he was was supposed to have it. /S
Rittenhouse did a straw purchase. He can't buy a gun at 17. Maybe you can have a rifle, for hunting. But Rittenhouse wasn't out hunting.
I disagree. He WAS out hunting...but of course I agree with you.
The law has a gap in the logic that allows a 17 year old to possess a dangerous weapon without having to be hunting. It's bullshit, but law.
No. The charge is specifically giving a dangerous weapon to a minor that results in death. 2 counts.
Isn't Rittenhouse considered a minor at 17? He can't buy himself a gun
Right. It was a straw purchase for sure. Why the guy isn't being charged on that as well, and why Kyle wasn't is a mystery to me.
NightfallEverdark
And the judge ruled the law is too vague, and doesn't account for hunting, and tossed the charge.
Rittenhouse wasn't out hunting.
You're getting mixed up here. Black, guy who gave him the gun, is facing these charges. Rittenhouse was legally allowed to possess it in WI.
Skibszilla
According to the court: If and only if he was being assaulted by the people he killed.
PlanckEraWasMyBestEra
That is NOT what the court said. They ruled that he was afraid for his life, not that he was being assaulted or even that his life was
actually in danger. Unfortunately that was the only thing his lawyers needed to prove based on the state laws.
So again, the kid at the school rushed the shooter. Isn’t that assault? Now this loser can cry self defense thanks to you idiots’ argument
This may be hard for you to comprehend, but there's the small difference that Rittenhouse only shot after he was assaulted, not before...
This may be hard for you to comprehend but he was not assaulted when he killed the first man and that is not what the court ruled. Maybe
And this may be hard for YOU to comprehend but in my world human LIFE will always be more valuable than property
Know your facts before being so goddamn pretentious.
BEFORE he just walked around like a big boy with his tough gun acting as though he had a right to silently hold authority over others
kittypoopappledrink
He wasn't assaulted until after he killed the first guy.
Have you actually seen the first clip with Rosenbaum?
Yeah cause Rosenbaum grabbed his gun cause he wanted to have a nice friendly chat.
HellsHegemony
All three of them look like douche nozzles
WorstPostEver
Dad’s facial hair alone is a crime.
TheMeanGombeen
Reminds me of those “We birthed him, we know what’s best for him” idiots.
Flamingnub
some news sauce https://www.npr.org/2021/12/03/1061190344/michigan-school-shooting-parents-oxford-charged
DrGlowforce
cogwork
Good to see them use his mug shot and not some Sunday school pictures
spiceass9000
School should also be charged. The questioned him searched nothing and let him go back to class
dwideshruud
Cops are still searching for the parents.
HurricaneShade
As of now the parents are on the run!!
tonyiscariot
Dad looks like a low-rent Guy Fieri. Dude Fiero.
burglarsonlarceny
I feel like I need context… did they knowingly provide a gun or did they prove negligence?
LenWeirdracin
from stories, the dad bought the gun, mom mentioned present kid, went shooting with mom. But since it was never properly secured, neglect.
G0MeatCube
Is anybody surprised looking at these people... I fell bad for the families.
ChelVanin
Aaaaand they’re on the run. WTF
morninggloryshade777
Arrested now.
Moryrt
That’s not about the shooting, referring to him searching for ammunition during school hours. School contacted his parents about it
Moryrt
Sauce: https://twitter.com/nwarikoo/status/1466817920323960832?s=21
Jkbmoneymachine
The dad looks like a murder sim flash game Newgrounds contributor circa the year 2002 all grown up
PicklePunch
They charged the parents and now they're "missing" according to their attorney. Can't wait to see how they get caught and hauled in.
AKmom
Sandyhookpromise.org is a nonprofit trying to fight for better background checks and education for gun safety. Support them if you can!
fowlersleftfoot
Mannnn if you had asked me to draw the kid who did this without seeing him I would have been so spot on.
KamikazeGerbil101
AND now they are on the run ! Parents of the year !
Viscupelo
And it would seem they've made a run for it?
MatthewBecker
When your first reaction to hearing about a mass shooting at your son school is to be like oh shit that totally my son you done f up
Copperbrat
There's a guy who lives in the next town over who says "gotta be my kid" to every report of theft and vandalism on NextDoor.com. Not 1/
Copperbrat
surprisingly, he's also been known to say "haha boys will be boys" when it's someone else. 2/2
DougForcett
This is an excellent legal precedent to set. The owner of the gun has to also be held accountable when a minor is involved.
Parthenon19
That precedent could have been set after Sandy Hook. Anyone can steal someone else’s gun and use it.
DougForcett
It should have been set then. But these shifting opinions take a long time.
Parthenon19
That’s true. Such a tragedy.
Ana5ta51a
At first I thought this was unfair, then I learned more and changed my mind.
BabeAfett
Thelrishlnquistion
Jesus what an evil looking bunch of bastards
jayman0123
did you see the picture that the new york post used?
Thelrishlnquistion
I did not no
jayman0123
It was a picture of the kid from 5 years ago or something like from a church choir
shawnemack
I’m also flabbergasted that the school let him go back to class after he was found making drawings depicting gun violence
Ana5ta51a
They called the parents to take him home and they refused.
LenWeirdracin
Thing is, i hear all the time where schools expel or suspend students for basically making a threat & his drawings would be just that.
Catsbycat
Makes you wonder why they refused
LenWeirdracin
Thing is, i hear all the time where schools expel or suspend students for basically making a threat & his drawings would be just that.
orangeyougladididntsaypoop
This is a case where i dont give a shit if the kid gets death penalty. Throw the parents in there, too
eightyearplan
We could be using science to (even better) build the case that X or Y are dangerous co-behaviors.. and A & B are good therapies..
eightyearplan
(do that for all criminals and we could have better prevention and policy) + someone reformed trying to prevent others is valuable.
orangeyougladididntsaypoop
Yeah. Id say this little prick doesnt deserved to be reformed.
eightyearplan
Did you say that about the last 200 little pricks? Good science can help us to help the next 200 before they snap.
orangeyougladididntsaypoop
I sure would. Not sure someone reformed can help with this, since this shit falls through the cracks. People cant be identified as psychos
treed240z
This is a start. This needs to become the minimum where the parents MUST be held accountable, seeing as thats how these turds get their guns
ImHereToGetDownvotes
Not just parents, but any gun owner, period. As a gun owner, it should be your responsibility to know where your guns are at all times 1/
ImHereToGetDownvotes
and that they are safe & secure or else you are held accountable as an accessory due to your negligence. 2/2
LorindaLogan
Should have happened to Rittenhouse, too.
Raithryn
He is able own that riflle legally that's the difference. You can own a rifle with barrel longer than 16 in" at age 17in wisconsin
LorindaLogan
Don't think the families of the people he killed will care about that detail.
treed240z
But not one that's semi-auto...that's 18, of which he was not.
ImAfraidYoureAllPsychosSoIMadeThisAccount
Worse yet, they bought their 15 year old a gun.
itsthevoiceman
Doesn't generally matter if gun ownership is responsible. Problem is, it's often not responsible.
jackd418
No they didn’t. He took his dad’s
0DapperDan0
No it was made very clear by himself and his parents that the gun was gift given to him.
jackd418
I saw that and do apologize
treed240z
I had a lot of friends who's parents bought them a gun at 15. But it was locked up in a safe with all the other guns. And only for hunting.
unluckyandbored
I grew up around guns. I was taught to handle them responsibly, and they were kept locked up when not needed.
AGiantTransWoman
This. You can own a gun under 16 with parents permission and purchase etc - but all guns should absolutely be locked up - no matter whose.
DirtRockets
I'd be concerned if parents (or anybody else) took proper safety precautions (not nutsoid American safety precautions) and was still charged
DirtRockets
I'm all fine with it in this case, since they were... yeah, really, REALLY fucking negligent.
treed240z
I think they should be automatically charged. Being convicted is a whole different story.
DirtRockets
That's overall an extremely, extremely bad idea. What if it's not the parent's gun? Or they locked it up? That has to go to a grand jury to
treed240z
Then it'll be pretty obvious that the parents are not at fault.
DirtRockets
Which means they shouldn't be hit with charges at all. You're creating a precedent where probable cause of a crime is no longer required.
DirtRockets
justify a charge. The precedent is... not good.
graehall
If they'd given him an assault rifle & driven him across state lines to a protest rather than a handgun to a school, they'd all be innocent!
dietcokeyo
Tate Myer ran toward the shooter https://meaww.com/amp/video-oxford-school-hero-tate-myre-viral-grief Now the loser can cry self defense!
tsaf210
That’s not even what happened in the rotten house case man. Jokes that exploit misinformation are pretty much propaganda
koops
IVIunk
FPMs, freedoms per minute
ElSnapster
I know what you mean, thank God for the 2nd
chrisinsocalif
No one used an assault rifle.
stusauce
The rifle didn't cross state lines, don't know why people bring that up. It was also like 15 minutes from his house. Not really relevant.
oobeedoobenubi
People love this state lines shit.
badpuppeh81
Schroedingers Broder, it exists and doesn't exist depending on the narrative being pushed.
TheThingsTheyCarried
Don't spread lies https://sports.yahoo.com/kyle-rittenhouse-didnt-illegally-bring-043226324.html
TheThingsTheyCarried
Gotta love Imgur! Get downvoted to all hell for trying to stop the spread of misinformation. Bunch of shitheads here.
GlowstickJedi
Is that REALLY the part of that post you have an issue with?
TheThingsTheyCarried
I have issues with misinformation, whatever the source. Don't spread lies.
dietcokeyo
Still used by a 17 year old then and it wasn’t legally his yet! What a bullshit argument
Thelrishlnquistion
graehall
You say holy shit to my comment, check out the replies in defence of you know who for some proper holy shit.
Thelrishlnquistion
Their sycophantic bootlicking and murder excusing is disgusting, isn’t it?
graehall
They LOVE that he murdered people & got away with it. Because they think those protesting police violence were subhuman & deserved to die.
ThisNameUnavailable
That's a massive strawman if I've ever seen one...
kookyabird
You do know the guy who actually gave Rittenhouse the rifle (and bought it for him) is being charged x2 for that right?
noctynight
HomerSimpsonsEvilTwin
Charged is not convicted.
dogwithahumanface
I'm sure he'll pay for his crimes just as much as Kyle has
duhitspollo
So if he gets charged, does that mean Rittenhouse wasn't supposed to have the rifle?
Vojens
No, the judge threw out those charges so he was was supposed to have it. /S
duhitspollo
Rittenhouse did a straw purchase. He can't buy a gun at 17. Maybe you can have a rifle, for hunting. But Rittenhouse wasn't out hunting.
Vojens
I disagree. He WAS out hunting...but of course I agree with you.
kookyabird
The law has a gap in the logic that allows a 17 year old to possess a dangerous weapon without having to be hunting. It's bullshit, but law.
kookyabird
No. The charge is specifically giving a dangerous weapon to a minor that results in death. 2 counts.
duhitspollo
Isn't Rittenhouse considered a minor at 17? He can't buy himself a gun
kookyabird
Right. It was a straw purchase for sure. Why the guy isn't being charged on that as well, and why Kyle wasn't is a mystery to me.
NightfallEverdark
And the judge ruled the law is too vague, and doesn't account for hunting, and tossed the charge.
duhitspollo
Rittenhouse wasn't out hunting.
kookyabird
You're getting mixed up here. Black, guy who gave him the gun, is facing these charges. Rittenhouse was legally allowed to possess it in WI.
Skibszilla
According to the court: If and only if he was being assaulted by the people he killed.
PlanckEraWasMyBestEra
That is NOT what the court said. They ruled that he was afraid for his life, not that he was being assaulted or even that his life was
PlanckEraWasMyBestEra
actually in danger. Unfortunately that was the only thing his lawyers needed to prove based on the state laws.
dietcokeyo
So again, the kid at the school rushed the shooter. Isn’t that assault? Now this loser can cry self defense thanks to you idiots’ argument
ThisNameUnavailable
This may be hard for you to comprehend, but there's the small difference that Rittenhouse only shot after he was assaulted, not before...
PlanckEraWasMyBestEra
This may be hard for you to comprehend but he was not assaulted when he killed the first man and that is not what the court ruled. Maybe
dietcokeyo
And this may be hard for YOU to comprehend but in my world human LIFE will always be more valuable than property
PlanckEraWasMyBestEra
Know your facts before being so goddamn pretentious.
dietcokeyo
BEFORE he just walked around like a big boy with his tough gun acting as though he had a right to silently hold authority over others
kittypoopappledrink
He wasn't assaulted until after he killed the first guy.
ThisNameUnavailable
Have you actually seen the first clip with Rosenbaum?
ThisNameUnavailable
Yeah cause Rosenbaum grabbed his gun cause he wanted to have a nice friendly chat.