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Oct 24, 2016 12:30 AM
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Rhyswithaspoon
It's almost like, dare I say it? He is suggesting respect for your fellow human being *Gasp!*
LazyLexiconographer
We exist. We are called Libertarians.
TheShiphoo
Actually, only place where this doesn't work is regarding the antivacs. They have to vac anyways, or we're dead.
pokeballin
I think everyone should have guns and abortions
fr1080f
If you don't like gays, don't buy one.
Kiore
Tho to be fair, I can't shoot someone with my abortion.
Mewmus
i wish the left would apply the whole "not all muslims are terrorists" to responsible gun owners when a mass shooting happens.
FilmMagician
Let me respond with that same genius logic. Don't like genocide? Don't listen to Hitler. There, wasn't that easy?
WiqidBritt
I'm way more likely to get shot by a gun I don't own than I am to be forced to marry another dude.
footfoe
It doesn't make any sense applied to those though.
Isuckatbeingagirl
Why not?
TestPattern
Very few people are shot by gay marriage
xycotic
What about crew that work on the sets of gay porn? Surely a few have been shot....
Cambino
But at least 50% of people in a gay marriage have been stabbed.
GreaterDog
Cheesecakecrush
Cumshots.
raudssus
Do not try to apply reason
Yomamma2
Something Orlando
RyanMcParty
Florida Man at it again.
NurseSlacky
And who has fewer abortions than the gays?
danm235
And drugs...
LeCacty
Especially drugs
ondrishko
I think that's my wife's dad
BearsBeetsandBattlestarGalactica
TriggeredSister
Give the fetus a gun.
NurseSlacky
Unless it's gay!
LadyWidebottom
Then give it two.
WarmGiggles
For equality
NurseSlacky
If it's a female, give it .78 of a gun.
stabbedintheface
The solution is simple. Abortions for some and miniature American flags for others.
hakunamatautumn
Don't like same sex marriage? Don't get same sex married.
youcanttriplestampadoublestamp
So this meme is assuming this dude is against gay marriage and abortions because he likes/supports guns?
WallyWorldtoo
No he's not. Don't assume.
youcanttriplestampadoublestamp
You're right. He's not, but the meme is hence my comment.
SlowlyAHipster
A bunch of us do. We're called rational human beings.
Bushwookie825
Don't like gay people? Don't buy one!
ThatGuyWhoThinksEveryoneIsAPineapple
wait what
AwkwardSmiler
Everyone knows you don't buy gay men, you simply rent them. Appropriate forms of payment include- compliments, clothes, theater tickets...
Bushwookie825
And wine tastings!
ZakAttacksJacks
If you don't like gay people don't get gay married.
Bushwookie825
Yeah! Get lesbian married.
Spentendo64
I've been saying this for years!!
BalkanDude
Don't like black people? Don't buy one! *runs away*
Bushwookie825
Woopwoopwooopwoopwopp
ld3514
Damn
recursivealgorithm
Laughed out loud! Hahaahahaha
Arlok
as a gun owner, to be fair, a bad person owning a gun will get others killed but a bad marriage or abortion hurts no one.
Carefuler
Except the child who was aborted, of course.
Arlok
do you think that more than half of aborted children will grow up in loving homes? cared for properly?
Arlok
they would have never gained consciousness so they don't mind.
Carefuler
So it's ok to shot sleeping people then?
Arlok
if that's what you pro life nuts think a fetus is equivalent to then yes . please do and tell everyone
zaphod
"If you don't like slaves don't own one" amirite - at one time the logic was Africans were not human... 1/2
fleetoffoxes
Exactly! The arbitrary declaration of what a human is has led to the worst blights on human history. The same will be for abortion.
zaphod
a unique human DNA is created at conception, keep pretending its not human all you want, science says you're wrong 2/2
mrcuttie
Is it really worth taking away rights from an already living, breathing, self-sufficient person. We already have to many goddamn people.
JohnWilkesTableorBooth
I can't imagine how hard it would be to explain to this man that it's not that I dislike guns, I just don't want to be shot by a crazy dude
Fahargo
What type of gun control are you thinking of? I'm curious
JohnWilkesTableorBooth
Mental health background checks, waiting periods, limitations on private sellers, and (don't quote me on this) I think some states 1/2
smittywjmj
1. already exists (since 1968), 2. in some states (and during BHVPA in the '90s), 3. in some states (plus some federal restrictions).
JackCoughlin
There are states that already have these and they don't do anything. Also your focus on rifles is entirely unfounded. Read FBI table 8
JohnWilkesTableorBooth
Restrict quick slide buttons for clips and limit mag volume for assault rifles, which for recreation would only slightly inconvenience
Fahargo
California has laws on the books the prohibit quick release mags. They do this by having it so you have to take apart the gun to release 1/2
Fahargo
the mag. This is a lot more than a slight inconvenience. To get around it though, people have developed what is called a bullet button. 2/3
IAMATigerAMA
So do you know anything about firearms and beyond what you hear on CNN, or?
IAMATigerAMA
-the 'and'
Carefuler
Do you think the 2nd amendment was for recreation?
Voggix
Do you think your AR-15 will be enough to stop the imaginary Orwellian government in your head from running you over with an Abrams tank?
sublimeDL
Who's they? Why must you contribute to the stupid? Not everybody that supports gun rights is anti gay or abortion. Support everyone's rights
sublimeDL
Your hypocrisy is the problem, not my affinity for firearms.
ratfaceddog
No correlation between right-wingers and ammosexuals, at all.
thecmerrilees
It's probably a positive one, they do love their ammo. Need it for their guns
smittywjmj
Wait, are you actually trying to use "ammosexuals" unironically and as a derogatory term? Oh man, that's hilarious.
ratfaceddog
I'm not "trying" to do anything. What do you think the term means, exactly. Something "ironic?"
smittywjmj
It's an inside joke with gun owners. Exaggerating that we're "persecuted" like homosexuals and that people can't accept our "love." (1/2)
ratfaceddog
Haha, do you really believe that, or are you in denial about the fact that the term is making fun of your gun fetish?
smittywjmj
(2/2) It's also only used by those who are already pro-gay rights because of that.
IWishIWereNotAllergicToCats
I don't want him having guns because I don't trust him not to shoot me. Nobody is going to kill you with their abortion in the street.
IAMATigerAMA
Lol
Carefuler
Someone gets killed with every abortion. Just because it's not you doesn't make it ok.
IWishIWereNotAllergicToCats
No *people* get killed.
Carefuler
A *human being* gets killed.
IWishIWereNotAllergicToCats
Human *cells* get killed. Not a person. Biological material.
Carefuler
Those cells are the entirety of a unique individual at that point. Not being self aware doesn't make it ok to marginalize them. Same a 1/2
ThisWorldMakesMeSad
So....based on nothing other than he is wearing camouflage, we just assume he's against abortion and same sex marriage? Haha okay
whatevenispee
aaaDUUUUUHHHHHH.... totes obvs brooh
IWishIWereNotAllergicToCats
Well it's not really about him in particular. These are just beliefs commonly held together, let's not pretend otherwise, that's silly.
itsabouttogetspicy
Pro-gun, anti same sex marriage, pro-life are all typically right wing stances. I'm not saying it applies individually, but politically 1
itsabouttogetspicy
there's only two options to choose from and people, generally, tend to embrace only one side of the spectrum. 2
IHatePuns
As somebody from a rural area in the south, this is pretty much the uniform for anti abortion and gay. Stereotypes exist for a reason.
ThisWorldMakesMeSad
As someone from a rural area in South Carolina...I have no idea what you're talking about.
ComradeV
(1) From Kentucky, nearly everyone I know from fat goatee rednecks to the highly educated support gun rights and gay rights. Some are torn
ComradeV
(2) on certain aspects of abortion.
schlummi
Actually the post is about the argument, not about a single persons opinion. It shows the flaws of this argument.
schlummi
It's a simple argument for simple minds. You could translate it to "don't like to be shot, don't buy a gun". Doesn't work, right?
RhetoricalRobot
The standards of reality are calibrated to average, low intelligence. What is un-assumable for most is easily, accurately assumed by few.
sakzeroone
I don't see any camouflage
ijustcantevenrightnow
THAT'S THE POIN... oh wait. he's not actually wearing any. nevermind
GrandmaSlappy
That means it's working!
Corsair212
There's the standard hypocrisy about being 'non-judgemental' which is espoused by a certain political leaning quite often when convenient...
RhetoricalRobot
...that comes directly from their big, black book of facts....RIGHT?
ABillionDucks
Yeah...good thing you don't do that.
ThisWorldMakesMeSad
I lean left...which is who I think you're referring to.
itsabouttogetspicy
The irony of this comment...lol.
Corsair212
The irony is that both sides say it, which is why it's a good joke!
NSAgent
The difference is it is very difficult to abort someone else's baby or gay marry somebody against their will. People get shot all the time.
fleetoffoxes
Well, you are aborting the baby against its will... but you arbitrarily dehumanize it for your convenience.
NSAgent
Hey, if an unborn baby wants to get gay married, who am I to judge?
Carefuler
Do you think the baby would agree with being aborted?
NSAgent
That's why I strongly believe babies need to be given a gun at the moment of conception.
VVeeFroggy
So . . a same sex gun that shoots abortions! Take my money!
Boredashell
Sounds like a secret weapon that'd be in South Park: Stick of Truth. Except the abortions are Nazi zombies.
IGotCharlieWork
Booya!
nubs0112
fylnndjofla
shooting an abortion... feels kinda... repetitive.
DarthSpyder7
So a lesbian running around with coat hangers?
Yourmorningwood
Ah dang it my gun keeps fucking other guns
ratchetbitch
all guns shoot abortions if you're accurate (:
JayEnfield
Usually in the 40th to 80th trimester.
EzraFell
Technically they do shoot abortions, but... Damn. It's hard to even joke about shooting pregnant women. I'm sorry.
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cklepper
+1 for full Metal Jacket reference.
SocialistGurkan
It isn't to hard! You just haven't been tainted enough to do it casually. Imo, it's nice to see a pure person around here.
BoozeHound001
It's not that hard. I had a jolly good laugh.
RincewindTVD
Your name isn't Bill then.
CobraFlyingAnA10DroppingSpidersBecauseScrewYou
You are weak.
usernamepickingsucks
What a gem found in a reply in a reply
bethyboo
A reply in a reply in a reply, technically.
nderasoreeee
Somnophobe
You could just kill anyone and call it a post-term abortion.. no need to go after pregnant women.
thecmerrilees
Don't like babies, don't make one. Am I doing this right?
SnarkyWondermuffin
Exactly. Thank you.
TurntSnako
Yup
JessieJanson
Don't want to die in birth from that horrible problem your having? Too bad! Both you and the baby have to die because abortions are bad!
SnarkyWondermuffin
Actually, the church doesn't consider that to be an abortion. They consider it to be a side effect of saving the mother.
ABillionDucks
Yeah...that's exactly what abortion people fight for.
itsabouttogetspicy
It's not what they think they're fighting for, but it's what they'll get.
SnarkyWondermuffin
Actually, the church doesn't consider that to be an abortion. They consider it to be a side effect of saving the mother.
lpstubbs
Any source? I'm genuinely interested to see if they've said that.
SnarkyWondermuffin
I've only talked to some priests about it. But I'll definitely see if I can find another source for you!
SnarkyWondermuffin
Here you go! Thanks so much for asking. I'd love to know what you think of the article :-) http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_hist_c1.htm
lpstubbs
Interesting read. Thanks :)
Rasmoh
Could always just not partake in the act that causes pregnancy.
thrymn
As a misanthrope, I whole heartedly support the death of humanity!
Rasmoh
You're right, it's much better for people to perpetually crap out children that they are unable to feed. It works so well for stray cats.
itsabouttogetspicy
Shit happens. You can't just tell an entire population of people that they have to ignore their basic urges and deny themselves comforts.
Rasmoh
I agree, it's ridiculous to expect humans to act civilized and not in a manner similar to stray cats. Responsibility is for bitches.
itsabouttogetspicy
You are the uncivilized one, here. Humans are supposed to be intelligent enough to empathize with one another...hm.
TurntSnako
Want to over exaggerate to try and make your point? Too bad. Rape, incest and mother's health are exempt. Most pro-lifers recognize that.
TurntSnako
Just like most pro-choice thinks late term isn't good, with the exemption of health of the mom.
ratfaceddog
"Over exaggerate?" As opposed to exaggerating just enough?
TurntSnako
Commonly used term. Surprised you've never heard it.
ratfaceddog
I've heard it. That doesn't make it any less redundant.
JessieJanson
It doesn't matter what you want. The republican party itself wants it all illegal. You should know the citizens don't choose, our govt does.
TurntSnako
Personally, I'm in the "safe, legal and rare" camp.
TurntSnako
But I hear lots of Republicans say that rape, incest and health of the mother are exceptions. I believe the current nominee has that belief.
JessieJanson
Just ask anyone at those pla par clinics that have been closed down thanks to republicans or in general how they tried to get all of them.
cousteau
Except that other people having guns may actually affect you. So yeah.
marsgoose
I am to concerned about the lack of space in peoples gun safes.
TheUsernameGothamNeeds
Abortions affect us too. Like I don't like when shitty people have shitty kids. Could've gotten an abortion and saved some annoyance.
username675
I think abortions affect fetuses too .right !
FrenchPressBenchPress
are you a fetus?
username675
what you just said proves my point .
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FrenchPressBenchPress
Comparing Syrians to things that have never been conscious. You cry over wasted sperm too?
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birencall
We should also apply equally to all issues then, too. Like slavery.
RenamedUser
Takes away others' rights. The whole point is that we all have the right to our own decisions
thecmerrilees
I mean one of the two examples is very arguably (depending on stance) killing a person so that would certainly take away their rights
fleetoffoxes
Not depending on the stance, anybody that says otherwise is evil and incredibly selfish. It is the arbitrary declaration of what a human is.
MuayThaiGifs
No one can use your body without your permission, regardless of their age. Whether a fetus is a person is irrelevant.
Rantaf
Truth.
RenamedUser
I'm assuming we're talking about guns as tools self defense. If a gun is used for self defense it's required that they fear for their (1/2?)
RenamedUser
(2/3) life. That means a criminal decided to take your life. Now what do you do? Let him kill you? Or defend yourself with whatever force is
RenamedUser
(3/4) NECESSARY to keep your life safe? That's where most people go wrong, btw. They're too quick to escalate to unnecessary force and it
Isuckatbeingagirl
Except that very much impacts the other independent human involved.
ThePickle
No such thing as an independent human
TheBretters
https://i.imgflip.com/128gkv.jpg
ThePickle
Thought it was pretty self explanatory.
TheBretters
How am I not independent?
ADreamByAnyOtherName
Whoooosh
SergeantMajorSpoiler
Unlike getting shot?
footfoe
Just like abortion.
ThePickle
Boom
Isuckatbeingagirl
No, actually it's not. Because a fetus is not independent, it is entirely reliant on the host. It isn't viable.
fleetoffoxes
It is like taking someone off life support, when you know for a fact that in just a few weeks they will be perfectly fine. That is murder.
fleetoffoxes
But it will be, how do you not feel horrible about murdering someone before they could even taste life?
captainclutch
Low functioning mentally disabled people are not independent either, does that make it ethical to euthanise them?
Isuckatbeingagirl
They are physically viable with science, they are not reliant on a single host. A fetus is not viable, even with advanced technology.
Fahargo
Except a whats a viable fetus is pushed back every decade. I think at 20 weeks you baby is highly unlikely to die if born premature
fleetoffoxes
It doesnt matter, nobody with a soul would take someone off life support if it was known for a fact they would be fine in a few weeks.
Isuckatbeingagirl
No, that's not true. It's highly likely to die.
SergeantMajorSpoiler
A fetus on the first trimester is not a human/person.
fleetoffoxes
Also, you wouldnt take someone off life support if you knew for a fact they would be fine in a few weeks. Abortion is no different.
Sebastan
There was a video on Reddit front page recently. The fundamental question is: why do you think women want abortion?
fleetoffoxes
Arbitrary declaration of what a human is has led to the worst moments in human history. The same thing is happening today with abortion.
Sebastan
First part is true. No disagreement. But it doesn't blend so seemingly with modern times.
SergeantMajorSpoiler
*snigger* Oh, wait - you were serious, weren't you?
BaconOnARock
they aren't a person, but they are a human.
Sebastan
As human as vaginal lining, or a clump of cells can be. No one would ever call their liver/bones/heart human.
SergeantMajorSpoiler
A fertilised egg does not a hen make.
Sebastan
What with the whole is greater than the sum of its part thing for the human body.