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Shaodyn
Ironic, isn't it?
carrionstorm
It depends on the drag show. Some of them are a little too sexual to bring kids to, otherwise I agree.
mccar7hy
BootsDusty
ForceAwakenWasLame
sirsinnes
Highly sexualized, hyper-stereotyped parodies of women. As a father of two, why anyone wants their kids involved with that is beyond me.
intaglioguy
Sorry to hear your children have to deal with your mental deficiencies. They deserve better.
frosss
This is a true statement
DeadWhiteMale
Unfortunately, that's the truth.
Swedishbouldering
I wouldn't take my kids to a drag show for the same reason I won't take them to a strip show. Nothing to do with gender.
svga
I was looking for this and would have typed it!
dizzyturtle
Overly sexualized adults and young children don't mix.
DinoTherapy411
Amen to this, sister!
adjacentengels
My church is hosting a drag show in a few weeks.
Lulabel73
I bet all the anti drag show talk has made drag shows even more popular.
Chimichanga007
Hell, just owning a gun you are more likely to be shot by it by accident or on purpose than you are likely to ever need it for defense.
whoa crazy, source?
This includes your loved ones
BlackCatCasper
Jack O’Neill, right in the feels v
Normlas
* only in Murica
Flyspyro
jimmythehat1
Those balloons are obscenely expensive
I have a hunch they are photoshopped just a HUNCH
fantastic job to the photoshopper in nailing the light source direction
KevinKeene
technically, the drag show is carrying too
graehall
Love the detail of the pink plastic ASSAULT RIFLE being broken in half
Bleh7200
Lol
TK421isAFK
I was pretty impressed with the massive collection of balloon letters. That took a lot of work.
ProfessorVanDiggenSagg
AkShuALy iT's A pInK PlasTiC ArMaLite RiFle
heh, exactly why I phrased it like I did :P
WienerFart
I completely missed that. I thought it was a little pink trumpet or something
n0n53n53
I'd seriously consider bringing my ASSAULT RIFLE to a drag show to hold a line of defense outside the doors.
Nah, oughta bring something that really instills fear into them. 20" rainbow colored dildo should suffice.
IdiotSavantTinker
I want to read that news story, where the shooter is beaten to death with sex toys before he can hurt anyone.
3leggedpup
I feel like most people should be afraid of a 20" rainbow colored dildo. What else could one use that for than bludgeoning someone to death?
i0nlyUseFuturamaGIFS
KidneyBeene
You shouldn't be taking a child to any show based on the sexualization of a person on stage. Come on people.
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CloakedFigure
hungoveratworkguy
You hear more about kids getting molested at church than drag shows, that’s for sure. There’s probably even data supporting that too
ThomasHarris111
I've asked this a couple times but never gotten an answer. Why is kids going to drag events a hill we're willing to, literally, die on?
I'm not saying drag events in general, specifically ones tailored for kids. It seems like an obvious lightning rod for outrage with no uniqe
Or specific goal other than... Acceptance and tolerance? Which, to my knowledge, never needed to involve kid events before
Like2Fox
Overwhelming majority of terrorist activity in the United States are committed by white males who are self-identified as Christian.
DannyDLC
Not really eco terrorism is still up there. And also gang violence along cartel crimes. But we don't count those acts of terror
AgnosticPaladin
When was the last time someone died in an act of eco-terrorism? Or do you put property damage on the same level with murder?
DrSanchezChristianAbortionClinic
What's with Republican's Super Majority with Child Rape, Pipe Bombs, Hate, and Financial Collapse? FFS
littleswimming
self-identified? Is there any other way to be identified as a christian? perhaps a medical diagnosis? a judge ruling? DNA test?
meltedfaceguy
Not sure why you got downvote, your comment is hilarious
I see you trying to be funny, but do you understand why I have to specify?
No, please explain. I might be an unidentified Christian.
RickySpanishhhhh
I mean, the Catholic Church and the American First Nations would like a word…
"is this 'jesus' in the room with us right now?"
IfYouAreOffendediWasJustJoking
Overwhelming majority of black on black crime activity in the United States is committed by black males who self identify as gang members.
My comment wasn't related to domestic Terrorism - I was just adding to the facts.
timdood3
While your statement may not be incorrect, it isn't really relevant. I think that's why you're getting downvotes
It's also a very misleading statement. And those numbers are used to paint minority communities as violent and degenerate by Fox News etc
And which of that crime falls under terrorism?
EaNasirsExcellentHighGradeCopper
or commit a terrorist attack against the power grid, Which carries its own dangers to the public.
IllegalDuckling
As a child, I definitely loved doing that
Suemio
what happened to that..? anyone arrested/charged?
Taxicat
They already tried that one and failed to actually stop the drag show. It went on just fine.
nomorehate
This shit has happened twice in NC lately. Fucking domestic terrorists, but they'll probably not get those charges knowing my state.. Ugh.
happened a few times in Oregon and Washington too. Outside of the big cities there's a lot of meth and inbreeding round these parts
(ok there's a lot of meth inside the big cities too FWIW)
Oh buddy, come to the foothills of NC. You can't swing a cat without hitting a meth lab.
gonergoner22
The Christians with guns know this is the only danger, it's why they have to bring the guns and kill people, it is their will being done.
Kbantar
Their politicians have literally said they could not win without cheating like gerrymandering.
MrsGogol
pinscritch
Did this in a project as a student at a private catholic prep school and nearly got crucified for it.
DaveSamsonite
stickmanprime
But they DO care about them. That's the problem.
SomeGrayFox
Yeah, and whey the say you're being disrespectful you can stare at them and say "so you do get it."
Thekindofkindlyman
Biologically speaking for any monotheistic God, they would be neither male nor female
HuckNRoll
She/Her, they care about caps
HeadJamistan
weidermeijer
Boop!
Cilvaa
I remember when this came out and the Christians lost their shit.
Dondarian
I remember I was still pseudo-Christian, and I didn't feel quite right about it, but I also wasn't offended and still enjoyed the movie.
It was causing me to ask the right questions about why that bothered me.
cjandstuff
Even better, Kevin Smith joined the protesters and was on local news protesting his own movie. https://youtu.be/DWmlFDYjVV4
ImHereToExplainTheJoke
I love him so much
Euchre
https://youtu.be/2bZRPrmTy5o
Jakesonyou
The downvotes make me curious…..
PineappleLoopsBroether
Still not clicking it.
HusbandsBulge
It is a great scene from a great movie though…
monkey484
Unwarranted downvotes. And man do I miss Alan Rickman
ProfessorDumbass
Religion and terrorism...is there a link? lol
Fucken. Magnets. Howdotheywork?
jaggcomputing5
Not really. It's more like people who are fucked up and find a justification for their attitudes in a group. Most of the Big Book /1
2/ instruction manuals can be used to justify almost any position (except doggy). Especially if you ignore their central tenet 3/
3/
CoqRoq
I think the better question is "is there a difference?"
JustFeedMePieDammit
Maybe. Coming from a non religious atheist
MoozerBoBoozer
No. Coming from a non religious atheist.
Using fear and threats to enact political change or control. I'd say any religion with a concept of karma or hell kind of counts.
OrangeFlavours
Aloha. Coming from a non religious atheist.
LicensedAdHominem
The difference is nominal as long as the religious keep encouraging hate and not rejecting the hateful within their respective cults, ⤵
⤷ or don't reject the cult themselves. Catholic Church, for instance, is guilty of enabling hate and so are all Catholics for not splitting.
I mean for fucks sake, if identifying as a member of a cult is more important to you than actual human lives, then obviously you're broken.
What I "enjoy" the most about apologists is "buh this small cult that doesn't hate" as if it was about that. Fucking focus. Christofascism.
sfrinlan
I appreciate the message, and the amount of time and helium it took to convey it, ha
trigonman3
0 helium
I'm sorry, Shelium
Blueb3
My kid's high school has a drag show every year, this is one of my fears.
And it never happens aye
Trelis
I mean, there have been more school shootings than shootings at drag shows.
Still not comforting.
artifactcreature
I feel like maybe this is their goal? Make people scared to go to these events.
BishlamekGurpgork
Nah. The violence isn't controlled or directed. It's just a byproduct of normalizing hate. On a large scale they'd rather oppress through
legislation and marginalization, but the problem with an ideology of hate is that it's founded in emotion and fear, which are reactive.
DeVermisMysteriis
I'm about as socially liberal as you can be, but I just don't get the whole drag queen story hour. It's weird.
Subsound
"I aM one Of YoUz FeLlOw HiP DuDeZ and I dO nOt UnDeRsTaNd PrEvIoUs SoCiAl IsSuE aNd JuDgE iT lIkE uNpOpUlAr NeWs NeTwOrKs"
I guarantee you most of the country thinks like I do. It's a fringe issue being hailed as some kind of civil rights battle. Absurd
You guarantee? Like people voted?
CraftyGiant
Adults in costumes reading to kids. what's hard to understand?
Specializedchuck
Sure take your kids to the show..it's your business...my kids go to public school...let's keep it business casual instead of the night club
I didn't find it odd until you phrased it that way. I'd be just as weirded out by someone reading to kids in a giant Teletubby costume.
So all of Disneyland weirds you out?
A single person in costume in a venue not inherently about fictional characters come to life is what I find odd.
If there was only one person in costume in the entire facility and they were reading to kids... yes. I would be weirded out.
Don't oversimplify it. Drag shows are almost always bawdy and sexualized. I don't think it's grooming or anything sinister. It's just odd
I think I see your point. But a drag character can be non-sexual in some venues and not in others.... just like I bet you can be.
No, and you're an ignorant bigot.
LrrrRulerOfThePlanetOmicronPerseiEight
So you've never been to a story hour then. There's nothing sexual about it.
Somehow, this has been made a core issue for the left. That's how you get a president like trump. Taking a stand on drag story hour.
It's literally a dude reading a story. Would you be clutching your pearls if a flashy woman was reading?
ConfederacyOfDunces
Which are you taking about: Drag Shows or DQ story hours?
The story hours. Drag shows in general are perfectly fine entertainment for adults. It's meant for adults.
I guess you don't have an answer since you've gone on to argue with others and ignored this.
So when you say "drag shows are .. bawdry" to support saying that DQ story hours seem strange to you, how do those connect in your mind?
Shaodyn
Ironic, isn't it?
carrionstorm
It depends on the drag show. Some of them are a little too sexual to bring kids to, otherwise I agree.
mccar7hy
BootsDusty
ForceAwakenWasLame
sirsinnes
Highly sexualized, hyper-stereotyped parodies of women. As a father of two, why anyone wants their kids involved with that is beyond me.
intaglioguy
Sorry to hear your children have to deal with your mental deficiencies. They deserve better.
frosss
This is a true statement
DeadWhiteMale
Unfortunately, that's the truth.
Swedishbouldering
I wouldn't take my kids to a drag show for the same reason I won't take them to a strip show. Nothing to do with gender.
svga
I was looking for this and would have typed it!
dizzyturtle
Overly sexualized adults and young children don't mix.
DinoTherapy411
Amen to this, sister!
adjacentengels
My church is hosting a drag show in a few weeks.
Lulabel73
I bet all the anti drag show talk has made drag shows even more popular.
Chimichanga007
Hell, just owning a gun you are more likely to be shot by it by accident or on purpose than you are likely to ever need it for defense.
svga
whoa crazy, source?
Chimichanga007
This includes your loved ones
BlackCatCasper
Jack O’Neill, right in the feels
v
Normlas
* only in Murica
Flyspyro
jimmythehat1
Those balloons are obscenely expensive
svga
I have a hunch they are photoshopped just a HUNCH
jimmythehat1
fantastic job to the photoshopper in nailing the light source direction
KevinKeene
technically, the drag show is carrying too
graehall
Love the detail of the pink plastic ASSAULT RIFLE being broken in half
Bleh7200
Lol
TK421isAFK
I was pretty impressed with the massive collection of balloon letters. That took a lot of work.
ProfessorVanDiggenSagg
AkShuALy iT's A pInK PlasTiC ArMaLite RiFle
graehall
heh, exactly why I phrased it like I did :P
WienerFart
I completely missed that. I thought it was a little pink trumpet or something
n0n53n53
I'd seriously consider bringing my ASSAULT RIFLE to a drag show to hold a line of defense outside the doors.
ProfessorVanDiggenSagg
Nah, oughta bring something that really instills fear into them. 20" rainbow colored dildo should suffice.
IdiotSavantTinker
I want to read that news story, where the shooter is beaten to death with sex toys before he can hurt anyone.
3leggedpup
I feel like most people should be afraid of a 20" rainbow colored dildo. What else could one use that for than bludgeoning someone to death?
i0nlyUseFuturamaGIFS
KidneyBeene
You shouldn't be taking a child to any show based on the sexualization of a person on stage. Come on people.
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CloakedFigure
hungoveratworkguy
You hear more about kids getting molested at church than drag shows, that’s for sure. There’s probably even data supporting that too
ThomasHarris111
I've asked this a couple times but never gotten an answer. Why is kids going to drag events a hill we're willing to, literally, die on?
ThomasHarris111
I'm not saying drag events in general, specifically ones tailored for kids. It seems like an obvious lightning rod for outrage with no uniqe
ThomasHarris111
Or specific goal other than... Acceptance and tolerance? Which, to my knowledge, never needed to involve kid events before
Like2Fox
Overwhelming majority of terrorist activity in the United States are committed by white males who are self-identified as Christian.
DannyDLC
Not really eco terrorism is still up there. And also gang violence along cartel crimes. But we don't count those acts of terror
AgnosticPaladin
When was the last time someone died in an act of eco-terrorism? Or do you put property damage on the same level with murder?
DrSanchezChristianAbortionClinic
What's with Republican's Super Majority with Child Rape, Pipe Bombs, Hate, and Financial Collapse? FFS
littleswimming
self-identified? Is there any other way to be identified as a christian? perhaps a medical diagnosis? a judge ruling? DNA test?
meltedfaceguy
Not sure why you got downvote, your comment is hilarious
Like2Fox
I see you trying to be funny, but do you understand why I have to specify?
littleswimming
No, please explain. I might be an unidentified Christian.
RickySpanishhhhh
I mean, the Catholic Church and the American First Nations would like a word…
DrSanchezChristianAbortionClinic
"is this 'jesus' in the room with us right now?"
IfYouAreOffendediWasJustJoking
Overwhelming majority of black on black crime activity in the United States is committed by black males who self identify as gang members.
IfYouAreOffendediWasJustJoking
My comment wasn't related to domestic Terrorism - I was just adding to the facts.
timdood3
While your statement may not be incorrect, it isn't really relevant. I think that's why you're getting downvotes
Like2Fox
It's also a very misleading statement. And those numbers are used to paint minority communities as violent and degenerate by Fox News etc
Like2Fox
And which of that crime falls under terrorism?
EaNasirsExcellentHighGradeCopper
or commit a terrorist attack against the power grid, Which carries its own dangers to the public.
IllegalDuckling
As a child, I definitely loved doing that
Suemio
what happened to that..? anyone arrested/charged?
Taxicat
They already tried that one and failed to actually stop the drag show. It went on just fine.
nomorehate
This shit has happened twice in NC lately. Fucking domestic terrorists, but they'll probably not get those charges knowing my state.. Ugh.
n0n53n53
happened a few times in Oregon and Washington too. Outside of the big cities there's a lot of meth and inbreeding round these parts
n0n53n53
(ok there's a lot of meth inside the big cities too FWIW)
nomorehate
Oh buddy, come to the foothills of NC. You can't swing a cat without hitting a meth lab.
gonergoner22
The Christians with guns know this is the only danger, it's why they have to bring the guns and kill people, it is their will being done.
Kbantar
Their politicians have literally said they could not win without cheating like gerrymandering.
MrsGogol
pinscritch
Did this in a project as a student at a private catholic prep school and nearly got crucified for it.
DaveSamsonite
stickmanprime
But they DO care about them. That's the problem.
SomeGrayFox
Yeah, and whey the say you're being disrespectful you can stare at them and say "so you do get it."
Thekindofkindlyman
Biologically speaking for any monotheistic God, they would be neither male nor female
HuckNRoll
She/Her, they care about caps
HeadJamistan
weidermeijer
Boop!
Cilvaa
I remember when this came out and the Christians lost their shit.
Dondarian
I remember I was still pseudo-Christian, and I didn't feel quite right about it, but I also wasn't offended and still enjoyed the movie.
Dondarian
It was causing me to ask the right questions about why that bothered me.
cjandstuff
Even better, Kevin Smith joined the protesters and was on local news protesting his own movie. https://youtu.be/DWmlFDYjVV4
ImHereToExplainTheJoke
I love him so much
Euchre
https://youtu.be/2bZRPrmTy5o
Jakesonyou
The downvotes make me curious…..
PineappleLoopsBroether
Still not clicking it.
HusbandsBulge
It is a great scene from a great movie though…
PineappleLoopsBroether
monkey484
Unwarranted downvotes. And man do I miss Alan Rickman
ProfessorDumbass
Religion and terrorism...is there a link? lol
PineappleLoopsBroether
Fucken. Magnets. Howdotheywork?
jaggcomputing5
Not really. It's more like people who are fucked up and find a justification for their attitudes in a group. Most of the Big Book /1
jaggcomputing5
2/ instruction manuals can be used to justify almost any position (except doggy). Especially if you ignore their central tenet 3/
jaggcomputing5
3/
CoqRoq
I think the better question is "is there a difference?"
JustFeedMePieDammit
Maybe. Coming from a non religious atheist
MoozerBoBoozer
No. Coming from a non religious atheist.
Kbantar
Using fear and threats to enact political change or control. I'd say any religion with a concept of karma or hell kind of counts.
OrangeFlavours
Aloha. Coming from a non religious atheist.
LicensedAdHominem
The difference is nominal as long as the religious keep encouraging hate and not rejecting the hateful within their respective cults, ⤵
LicensedAdHominem
⤷ or don't reject the cult themselves. Catholic Church, for instance, is guilty of enabling hate and so are all Catholics for not splitting.
LicensedAdHominem
I mean for fucks sake, if identifying as a member of a cult is more important to you than actual human lives, then obviously you're broken.
LicensedAdHominem
What I "enjoy" the most about apologists is "buh this small cult that doesn't hate" as if it was about that. Fucking focus. Christofascism.
sfrinlan
I appreciate the message, and the amount of time and helium it took to convey it, ha
trigonman3
0 helium
sfrinlan
I'm sorry, Shelium
Blueb3
My kid's high school has a drag show every year, this is one of my fears.
DannyDLC
And it never happens aye
Trelis
I mean, there have been more school shootings than shootings at drag shows.
Blueb3
Still not comforting.
artifactcreature
I feel like maybe this is their goal? Make people scared to go to these events.
BishlamekGurpgork
Nah. The violence isn't controlled or directed. It's just a byproduct of normalizing hate. On a large scale they'd rather oppress through
BishlamekGurpgork
legislation and marginalization, but the problem with an ideology of hate is that it's founded in emotion and fear, which are reactive.
DeVermisMysteriis
I'm about as socially liberal as you can be, but I just don't get the whole drag queen story hour. It's weird.
Subsound
"I aM one Of YoUz FeLlOw HiP DuDeZ and I dO nOt UnDeRsTaNd PrEvIoUs SoCiAl IsSuE aNd JuDgE iT lIkE uNpOpUlAr NeWs NeTwOrKs"
DeVermisMysteriis
I guarantee you most of the country thinks like I do. It's a fringe issue being hailed as some kind of civil rights battle. Absurd
Subsound
You guarantee? Like people voted?
CraftyGiant
Adults in costumes reading to kids. what's hard to understand?
Specializedchuck
Sure take your kids to the show..it's your business...my kids go to public school...let's keep it business casual instead of the night club
Kbantar
I didn't find it odd until you phrased it that way. I'd be just as weirded out by someone reading to kids in a giant Teletubby costume.
CraftyGiant
So all of Disneyland weirds you out?
Kbantar
A single person in costume in a venue not inherently about fictional characters come to life is what I find odd.
Kbantar
If there was only one person in costume in the entire facility and they were reading to kids... yes. I would be weirded out.
DeVermisMysteriis
Don't oversimplify it. Drag shows are almost always bawdy and sexualized. I don't think it's grooming or anything sinister. It's just odd
Kbantar
I think I see your point. But a drag character can be non-sexual in some venues and not in others.... just like I bet you can be.
CraftyGiant
No, and you're an ignorant bigot.
DeVermisMysteriis
LrrrRulerOfThePlanetOmicronPerseiEight
So you've never been to a story hour then. There's nothing sexual about it.
DeVermisMysteriis
Somehow, this has been made a core issue for the left. That's how you get a president like trump. Taking a stand on drag story hour.
LrrrRulerOfThePlanetOmicronPerseiEight
It's literally a dude reading a story. Would you be clutching your pearls if a flashy woman was reading?
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ConfederacyOfDunces
Which are you taking about: Drag Shows or DQ story hours?
DeVermisMysteriis
The story hours. Drag shows in general are perfectly fine entertainment for adults. It's meant for adults.
ConfederacyOfDunces
I guess you don't have an answer since you've gone on to argue with others and ignored this.
ConfederacyOfDunces
So when you say "drag shows are .. bawdry" to support saying that DQ story hours seem strange to you, how do those connect in your mind?