Alpha Black Lotus

Jan 14, 2019 2:21 PM

thecardpletionist

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One of my prized possessions, the Alpha Black Lotus. This is perhaps the most sought after card in Magic the Gathering. It was a gift from my wife on our honeymoon.

My local mtg shop is the store with the PSA10 Black Lotus, 2mill price tag. Owner is the guy that was selling the superman #1 a while back

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

False. The most sought after card in MTG is Storm Crow

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Whoa, awesome gift. I've never had a girl give me a flower before!

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Wife h... Oh wait nvm.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

1992 me is like "Deeeeeeeeeyam"

7 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 2

Hope its certified

7 years ago | Likes 47 Dislikes 2

Hot damn. I used to work at Card Kingdom in Seattle, and even me just seeing this pic somehow gave all my old co-workers a boner.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

The prize of prizes.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I had 2 way back in 98' I sold them for way less than they are worth now. Think it was like $40 dollars for the pair.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I'm not even a Magic The Gathering fan, bitt even I know the black lotus is an amazing card to have. Nice work op's wife!

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

If you ever need to fall back on any savings or pay off your mortgage, there's your answer

7 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

True, but hopefully it never comes to that. If I had to sell this card, it would only be because I have no other choice.

7 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Arguably the most laughably broken card MTG ever printed. Pretty neat that you have it OP.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

*plays contract from below* - who’s broken here?

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Which Pokemon is this?

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

it's blue eyes white dragon

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

This is oddish

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Mother of god

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

THE BLACK LOTUS

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

7 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Thank you for connecting the dots of a meme I forgot that I did not understand when I initially saw it.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Nice! I've always wanted to own a BL! I've owned a couple "Power 9" but never the elusive black lotus! Been playing/collecting since 1994!

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Awesome! I've been collecting TCGs for a little over 20 years myself.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The best I have now is a Unlimited Demonic Tutor I got autographed by Douglas Schuler ?.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Well a graded 6 'excellent' is going for about $15,000 so, nice.

7 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 2

Thanks! I doubt I'd get a 6 with the edge damage on my copy, but I'm thrilled to own any copy since so few were printed.

7 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

7 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 3

My brother's old camp counselor had 4 of these cards from knowing a guy involved in production. He sold them all and paid for his college.

7 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I’d tap

7 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Holy shit dude google how much this card is worth! It costs as much as a car!

7 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 2

he knows.

7 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 3

I’m not talking to him jealous bird I’m talking to anyone that doesn’t know like I didn’t

7 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 2

Might not be the best comparison, there's a fair variance in the cost of a car...

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

True. this would cost 50 of my cars

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Anywhere from a junker to a pretty damn solid car based on card condition.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

As someone who recently started magic , what's "mono artifact" and "interrupt"

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

"Mono artifact" used to mean an artifact that had to tap, and "interrupt" was just another term for "instant" iirc

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

And since the 6th edition rules change, there’s no difference between interrupts and instants anymore.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Although I played back when the internet was barely a thing so we kinda made up our own rules and interpretations haha

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 3

Sorry for downvoting but transparancy of information is important and you acknowledged another comment as being more cprrect

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I'll live, somehow

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Actually, Interrupts superseded Instants in the resolve stack.

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

^ listen to this person

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

She literally gave you her flower.

7 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

What a blooming good joke.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

“I’ll give you $24 for it.” - Creepy Uncle Rudy

7 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 2

Hey, that’s supposedly what we paid the Indians (we swindled) for Manhattan.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Creepy Uncle Rudy offers the best deals and the worst manadatory back massages.

7 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 0

Remember when he opened a black lotus he suspected to be fake's case by throwing it on the floor lmao

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Add a floppy taco and we got a deal.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I understand that these are rare and coveted, but as someone who has never played MTG, what's their gameplay value?

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Most consider it to be the best card in the game. It works in any deck and is very broken.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

But why? How is this so OP in MTG game mechanics?

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

If you played this on turn 1, you would have the mana equivalent of turn 4. Its the best ramp ever printed and it costs nothing to play.

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

It still seems over rated to me. Theres plenty of amazing cards out there, including one that doubles its damage every turn and stacks

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

2 words: immediately value. There are so much cards and combos nowadays that win you the game if unanswered, but there are many answers too.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I have the Blacker Lotus at home ;)

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Unglued and Unhinged were the best expansions.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Yehhhh XD

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Jesus your wife is well off. Is she single?

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

@OP's wife might've been able to get it for as little as a few hundred dollars if they married 15+ years ago.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Longer than that I think. Idk

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

No wait that seems about right

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

More like 20+. They were in the 4 figure range when I was in high school. You've gotta go back to like 94, maybe 95 for that cheap.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Here's a copy of Scrye Magazine from 2002 that lists the Alpha Black Lotus at around $500: /a/iEzkg So, 15-20ish years 1/2

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

2/2 then rather than 15 years precisely.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Man, I thought they quit printing Scrye in the 90s. I suppose my memory of things from when I was 14 is not as good as I thought. lol

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

First and only tournament I played in was against a guy that bought out not one, but two of these against me.

7 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

If it's any consolation, they restricted it to one in 1994

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Oof. That's brutal. If its any consolation this card is illegal in most tournament formats these days.

7 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

isn't all the cards? Don't they run the scheme to make people buy new cards, making tournaments accept only them?

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Some formats like vintage allow you to play cards that have rotated out of the other formats.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You can’t tell me what to do! I’ll triple Pot of Greed Exodia you if I gor’am well want to!

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Oh god the suspense is killing me. Is it authentic or not?!? I gotta know how this story ends!

7 years ago | Likes 917 Dislikes 14

I'd still get it graded just to know. Doesn't mean any less, but it's a cool factoid you can point out.

7 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

No offense, but even if it is real, I think it is, it would only get rated max 7, most likely lower. That dramatically reduces the value.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

They said it was/passed the tests

7 years ago | Likes 48 Dislikes 1

It doesn’t sound so powerful?

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It's a free 3 mana of your choice. You can get a 4 drop out turn 1. Imagine multiples in your hand turn 1. It's pretty gnarly.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Do you even MTG Bro!

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Haha jk, so it is an artifact so you can play a land and this on turn 1 and cast something in your hand that cost 4 mana.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I bought a few booster packs once. Never got into it. Yugioh is my go to, though it’s been years.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It's so powerful they had to limit decks to just 1 because with multiple in your opening hand you can go off and get 1st turn kills

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It's almost surely real because of the wear. Nobody's printing fake Magic cards and then bareback shuffling them to decrease value.

7 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 1

You'd be surprised. Some fakes have come into circulation lately with fake edge wear for this exact reason.

7 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Edge wear is one thing. Surface wear like this is much harder to fake because it has an element of time to it.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

True.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

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7 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 6

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7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Careful... He's going to have to Garak blow up your shuttle now...

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

7 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

LOLz, sry off topic OP. Been HM with an injury watching DS9. Nostalgia **intensifys**

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

ever had to sell, but I have no intention of selling since this was a very meaningful gift from my wife. 2/2.

7 years ago | Likes 590 Dislikes 6

And you should have the card in the case in a sleeve. Come on man that cards worth thousands.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Get it verified for insurance purposes

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Awesome thing to have! It has some obvious wear, so it likely isn't worth the big bucks, anyway. Cherish it well!

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 3

HP grade (this looks far better) are selling for anywhere from $5-10k right now.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I didn't say it was worth nothing. It's an alpha black lotus, ferchrissakes.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Even beat to shit lotuses are worth a lot.

7 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I don't disagree. I was talking in context of lotuses.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Out of curiosity as someone who used to play, what makes this card possibly the most sought after. And what would a possible price point be?

7 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

It gives you three mana for 0 cost to play. Giving u a potential 3 mana advantage early on. Cheapest I've ever seen it is around 4 grand

7 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

I remember it being worth around $300 in the mid-90s. The increase doesn't surprise me, but it is pretty staggering.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Isnt it like 30,000 USD now? Probably more

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

ridiculiously op but many cards are. It's not usable in legal, I asumed it was because of the usual stuff, availability date of printing etc

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It is useable in the open tournaments. Also very rare due to a few hundred getting destroyed in a basement flood early on.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You should have a better card case than a plastic slip one. They make much better ones. Just saying from a old baseball card collector.

7 years ago | Likes 153 Dislikes 1

For sure! I took it out of its protective layers to take the picture but it is not normally this exposed.

7 years ago | Likes 116 Dislikes 1

As a still current collector this case is perfect. Don’t mess with screw down cases. Buy a sleeve for the case you have it in now. They’re

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Card in a perfect fit sleeve in normal sleeve, in oversized sleeve, inside a toploader, inside a case!

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I am seeing your exposed card

7 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 0

7 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

Called perfect fit sleeves.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Ran a number of tests before purchasing years ago and am convinced its legit. Would submit to PSA/BGS for an authentic grade if I (1/2)

7 years ago | Likes 630 Dislikes 7

Not worth grading, just from looking at it here.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 4

Always worth grading if high value. Insurance purposes.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Get it valued even if you never intend to sell it. Cpntebt/home insurance won't pay out on your say so that it's worth X amount.

7 years ago | Likes 62 Dislikes 1

Denting or creases but it is still extremely cool to own a copy of this card

7 years ago | Likes 67 Dislikes 1

Its still worth thousands, lol wtf

7 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 1

Assuming it's real. Without even seeing the back, I'd say it's moderately played at best. Not worth getting graded, likely worth more raw.

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 4

Yep. But I would still get it authenticated before selling it if that day ever comes.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

All the white around the edges and the Knicks at the top of the card would probably bring it down a bit and I can't see any 2/3

7 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 2

It looks like it has been played so I don't think it is worth all that much compared to other copies 1/2

7 years ago | Likes 24 Dislikes 7

Well a mint one should go for 80 grand or more - even if this goes only for half of it, it’s still quite a treasure.

7 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

One has sold for that much. Theyre typically ~30k in mint.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

One sold for around $125k. Ridiculous.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

80 fuckin grand WHATTTTT

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Cardboard Crack TM

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Its definitely worth much less than a mint or near mint copy.

7 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 1

Probably how you could guess it’s real. No one forges a card and plays with it!

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Still worth a shit load tho

7 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

Not many copies to compare it to, considering only 1100 were ever printed.

7 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 2

That's still 1099 other copies to compare it to I think that is still quite a lot of comparisons

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That's only based on the assumption that 1099 copies of that card have survived 30 years.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I had 2 in 98' Won them in a betting round. Sold them of to pay rent in 2000. $40 and sone games. Ouch!

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Sorry for the typos. Sausage fingers.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

By looking at the print and borders, if I was you I'd get it authenticated because it looks duped to me and I run a card shop

7 years ago | Likes 61 Dislikes 27

Hopefully it’s just slightly bigger than normal cards. As Alpha cards are a teeny bit bigger. They were banned for that reason.

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

It's the corners that are a different shape. Have an alpha gauntlet of might, can't tell the difference in a sleeve.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Weird flex, but ok.

7 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

I bet that card gets him unlimited pussy, fake or real... Some guys have all the luck.

7 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

There are card shops around still?!?! Not where I live :(

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

From this picture you can’t assume that, cause it’s far to low res. You would need a scan or something to go for sure.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Agreed, you might want to double check... although not checking is cheaper and might save you a little heart break.

7 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 2

Its real, it passed all the tests except the bend test which was not administered for obvious reasons.

7 years ago | Likes 94 Dislikes 1

So if it failed the bend test.... It's a fake? :P

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 8

Bend test wasn't administered.

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I think there are more than a few people all jealous about your card. Neat thing man! Your wife sounds cool.

7 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

Lord knows I am lucky to have her.

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

How many moneys

7 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Too many moneys

7 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 1

One sold last year for 27k, and there is another listed for 100k

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Holy cannoli, I want op & his/her wife to adopt me.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

You forgot the test where you throw it in water - if it floats, it's fake. If it's real, it will sink.

7 years ago | Likes 73 Dislikes 2

Pretty sure if it floats then it’s A WITCH!!

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Ah yes, almost important as the burn test. True alpha cards burn a different color than fakes.

7 years ago | Likes 44 Dislikes 1

Burn the witch!

7 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 0

My first two were real, they burned purple.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

This guy magics

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

My buddy had a 9.5 of these that wotc bought off him

7 years ago | Likes 116 Dislikes 3

I work at WOTC and have 3 framed shadow box style displays of the full alpha set as original uncut sheets on the wall by my desk. Very cool.

7 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 1

That sounds so cool! Gonna dot this. Let me know if you end up making a post of this please!

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Holy cow, could you share a picture of it? That sounds amazing.

7 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

My friend doesn't know what the 9.5 or "WOTC" parts of this comment mean.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

9.5 is the garden grading (it's not all beat up) wotc is the company that originally printed it back in 1993.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Wizards of the coast. 9.5 is its grade (essentially mint and perfectly centered) on a 25 year old card which was produced super cheaply and

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

With notoriously bad presses

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

why'd they want it? (and how much??)

7 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 3

They were trying to get mint version of every card ever printed and from every set his was the only one up for sale and they payed way above

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Market at the time they payed 85k so it wouldn’t go to auction.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

probably the best condition version in the world, so they wanted it back. I would guess.

7 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

I know they have rarities and uniques there, but that'd be an interesting expenditure for a company without a specific use in mind

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Most likely an in-house archive (or even museum).

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That's very cool. A 9.5 is worth silly money these days. Kudos to him for having owned such a special card.

7 years ago | Likes 87 Dislikes 0

Yeah like 20k

7 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

Closer to 80k based on the 9.5 that sold this summer.

7 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

He sold his for 85 wotc was trying to get mint versions of every card and his was the only one being sold

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

There are only a couple 9.5+ known, right? I heard some guy in UAE was trying to buy them up

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Yeah there are very few copies in that conditon.

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Where can you sell old cards? I have a bunch of beta to 4th edition

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Local game stores

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

If you have individual expensive cards, sell individually direct to buyers instead of to a store. You'll get more money.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I'll give you treefiddy.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

If you are selling beta or unlimited cards, I recommend you look up the price of every single card. Common Lightning bolt is worth over $200

7 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Seriously? Thanks, I have 4 in a red burn deck

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Well, unlimited is only $20, but beta cards are exploding in value. Other good commons are Dark Ritual, Disenchant, Llanowar Elves, Sinkhole

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Either find a local store/collector or sell them as bulk. Just do some research as to what cards are worth something, but most will (tbc)

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

get you very little to nothing. Just a fair warning to not get your hopes up.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Bruh if look up ever card bolt is like $160 and it’s a common and lotus is an uncommon

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

In mint condition, sure. But almost none of them are in that condition.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Since they are older cards to begin with, this isn't necessarily true. Especially with the beta cards.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0