Common sense

Jun 18, 2016 6:55 AM

GreenEggsAndSam92

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Tell this guy that ISIS isn't Islam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vev-OzHQy94

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

This is such a dumb comparison

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 4

When you have Imams preaching western hate in western countries then it is not just a few. Then it is organised.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

Yeah those westboro beheadings are really atrocious

9 years ago | Likes 51 Dislikes 9

They all draw from the same fucked up source material, they're all fucks.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 5

Awful groups, but an awful comparison too. KKK & Westboro don't hold a candle to ISIS.

9 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 2

If you can just pinpoint the aggressive, black and gayhating new Testament Verses to me.

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 8

It'd be unfair to cherry pick anything from the Old Testament wouldn't it?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Islamic Fundamentalism is nothing like Christian Fundamentalism. It supports terrorism and shari'ah law and millions practice it.

9 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 9

If you're killing in the name of your god, you're doing it wrong. Period/

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

ehhhhh...i'm probably gonna be internet-flogged for this, and i'm not necessarily disagreeing 1/

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 5

but the kkk never actually conquered a geographic region before.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 5

Wasn't that because KKK's focus was on the "enemy" inside? I.e. black people in the US?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Islamic fundamentalists do a great deal more harm than Christian fundamentalists though.

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 11

Only in western civilisations. Christian terrorismus is quite a thing.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 8

Islam is a religion. ISIS is a faction. Get it right dumbass.

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 6

Same thing with KKK and WBC. Which is the point of this.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

True, but ISIS are the most devout followers of their religion. They are actually the "best" muslims in the world.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

Speaking of dumbasses..........

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

Would you like to educate me on anything I said being incorrect?

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

On everyone needs to stop. Islam is, if you study it, the most violent religion. Not saying all Muslims are violent, but at the core of the

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 3

..belief itself is a violent teaching. Many other religions (in fact almost all) aare not. But the Koran teaches murder and oppression....

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

And no true scholar of the book itself will tell you I'm wrong. Again, not saying every Muslim follows the violent doctrine, but it's there.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

Fire and Brimestone Christian groups are the minority. In Islam, they're the majority.

9 years ago | Likes 29 Dislikes 19

HAHAHAHAHAH oh honey.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Even those do not preach murder of non-believers , its simply two completely different things . killing people =/= preaching against sin

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 3

Not that simple. 1 example, a majority of Muslims share a literal interpretation of the Koran and believe gays deserve death. Separate that.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

People are forgetting the Holy Crusades...

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 3

Which happened 600 years ago. Six hundred. Meanwhile, in the present, 1/3 muslims support stoning homosexuals. Doesn't come from nowhere.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

You do realize that the Crusades, however twisted they may have become, were caused by Muslim invasions into Christian lands?

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Correction *Jewish Lands/ Roman Lands / Ammonite Lands / Zoroastrian Lands. Getting a bit silly now.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

I just wish we could separate parts of the westboro baptist church members from other parts of them.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

But it's the intolerance only Islam's culture that they will never accept our way of life and only kill more people for being gay/different!

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 8

https://youtu.be/0OAnm0RpPkE

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Watch this for only a little explanation on why they can't be here, or anywhere else but their desert

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

It is the whole reason that they, NOT isis, is that they are the ones being intolerant of Western culture and serve the public death penalty

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 3

To people only because they speak out against Islam, they are American, they are gay, or disagree with Islamic practices in any form

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

Wake up people! This is the reason mass immigration will never work with them, they simply cannot accept our culture and our way of life

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

But they're not separate, the WBC and KKK are direct results of extreme Christian ideology, same with ISIS and Islam.

9 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 22

And the difference between Christianity and Islam right now is the percentage of people in the faith who sympathize with extremists

9 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 9

Pretty sure majority of Muslims are not sympathizing with any extremists. Isis has attacked and killed more Muslims than anyone else

9 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 5

The real difference between Christianity and Islam in this context is that the Islamic terrorist groups are killing more of their own 1/

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 3

(I.e Muslims) while the Christian terrorist groups around the globe are killing more people of other religions. Feel free to research. 2/2

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 4

IS is less than 100000 people out of 1.7 billion Muslims. If there were a significant number of sympathizers, you'd know about it.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 5

They've been asked about it already. The majority thinks apostates, those who leave Islam, should be killed, as well as homosexuals. Get it?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Not all Muslims support Isis, but a vast, VAST majority believe in the death of gays and the covering of women.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Except all of Islam preaches some pretty nasty stuff....https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=czBiWm3ljv0

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

there is no such thing as moderate islam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhpRlkrMWy8

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

I haven't seen that video, but I can assure you, compared to the middle east, malaysia's Islam is VERY moderate.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Compared to Western liberal democracies it's still full of hateful bigotry. It is not acceptable to imprison gay people because they are gay

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

What would you define as moderate, then?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Accepting equal rights for women, homosexuals, and non-Muslims.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Sure, there are movements to try and make it more fundamentalist, but the majority population are fine with it as is.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

but in Malaysia homosexuality is still outlawed with a prison 20 year sentence, so yeah it is moderate compared to the death sentence.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

True, but that prison sentence is rarely enforced. The notable case I've heard of was largely politically motivated.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

even thought Malaysia is classed as a "Islamic state" the leading political party represents non-muslims followed by socialist parties.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Agreed, but only a handful of Christians believe we should stone gays, over a third of Muslims believe the same, even non-ISIS Muslims.

9 years ago | Likes 37 Dislikes 15

Sources, people.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Bro, it takes a ten second Google search. You're a big boy, do it yourself. Don't use my lack of sources as an excuse to ignore facts.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You made an aspersion, dude. Back it up.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Here's an example - over a third of professional tennis players eat grapefruit before going to bed.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

making their lives any better. (2/2)

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 4

Nah, a lot of those Christians would rather go through legal ways to discriminate against LGBTQA+ and "others". Not killing, but not (1/2)

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 4

Islam is violent. Read the quran.

9 years ago | Likes 41 Dislikes 27

No it isn't. Read the Quran. Understand it's actual meaning, context and get yourself a reputable trabslation/guide on youtube to understand

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 3

"As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help"

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

"O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

"I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Yes it is lol, I think it's hilariously ironic that you're telling someone to get an accurate translation because when you can read MSA

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

It becomes painfully obvious that the religion itself is incredibly violent and disturbing

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

If you follow the Quran the way the text tells you to, you will be considered a religious extremist. It's really that simple

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Yep, so is the bible.

9 years ago | Likes 34 Dislikes 14

Islam is considerably more violent.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Stop pretending that the two religions are comparable. Islam is uniquely violent and fraudulent.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 4

Christianity is violent. Read the Bible. How are people still making your stupid argument?

9 years ago | Likes 29 Dislikes 18

Why do you assume im a christian? Every religion is violent because all have been written by violent men. It's time for us to stop religions

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Christianity had a major reform that both splintered it and removed it from government. Islam has done no such thing, and needs to.

9 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

It may be but at least jesus preached love to people muhammad didt do that do well.

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 7

we get that there's psychos of all religions. fact is, quaran tells it's followers to convert unbelievers by the sword. Bible does not

9 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 9

It is against Islam to force someone into the religion. Period. It's clearly written in the Quran several places.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 3

You mean the beginning? The part where Muhammad was not a powerful, warmongering, terrorist?

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Or the later part (the one you're supposed to follow) where you either pay a 90% tax or die for not converting?

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Jizya tax to be exact. The usual rejoinder is that Muslims have to pay the Zakat tax. Jizya is a much higher % though

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It is against Islam to force someone into the religion.

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 16

*it's against YOUR Islam. not Islam period.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 4

It is against the religion. Some might be trying to force others into it, that doesn't mean that it is right. It is wrong.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Why don't you tell that to the governments that cover up muslim rape, sexual abuse of children, violence against jews etc.

9 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 11

Is this the same governments that covers up rape, child abuse and violence by senators, mps etc?

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 7

I'm referring to the UK and yes, that is bad, but it is equally bad if a muslim does it as well. it only makes the opinion of these 1/2

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

protected groups even worse 2/2

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Obviously its bad if both groups do it. But implying its a Muslim problem rather than a problem across demographics is ludicrous

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

well considering i've not seen anything about politicians recently but have seen countless stories of mass sexual assault by migrants 1/2

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

i'd say it's pretty justified.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I'd suggest different news sources. There have been so many reports of covered up rape cases in recent years'

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Then you should be able to separate crazy fucks from sane gun owners. "Common sense"

9 years ago | Likes 266 Dislikes 58

TIL there are people who think every gun owner is crazy. Wonder why I've never seen these people before..

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

But here's the deal, that doesn't make for good TV and if it doesn't make you watch the news then it's not on TV.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Last time i looked at my newsfeed it was all the "you can't blame ALL gun owners" people that support Trump and want all Muslims banned.

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 11

Thomas pane in the ass I'll tell you

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Paine

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I recognize that there is a difference. But if you show me one member of said groups, I wouldn't be able to classify them.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

The thing is that people don't want to have common sense with something they don't like or want to understand

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Dumb. Nobody's making the argument that all gun owners are crazy fucks.

9 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 10

Bullshit, of course they are. Many are politicians.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Plenty of people make that argument. "Bitter clingers" - remember that comment by someone who can't even say the word "terrorism"?

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

The only reason it's hard for me is because every gun-enthusiast I know is an unpleasant person by coincidence .-.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 5

That's not sarcasm btw. I do know it's a coincidence; there are a lot of assholes around here.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

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9 years ago (deleted Jun 19, 2016 2:54 AM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

The product of one's environment.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yeah cause "sanity" is forever. No "sane" gun owner could ever lose their job, become depressed and violent and go on a killing spree, right

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

That's why people keep suggestion some degree of gun control. Keep crazy fucks from being gun owners.

9 years ago | Likes 50 Dislikes 8

the problem is, if someone wants to kill someone, they will probably violate any gun restrictions, so unless you plan on somehow 1/2

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I mean unless you can cut off every penis and plug every vagina rapists are still going to rape. So why bother making laws regarding it.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

you'e only making my point. We can ban murder and rape but unless we go to incredible, near impossible, lengths you can't 100% stop it

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

No your point was why should we regulate things at all since criminals will still do them which is the stupidest argument I've ever heard.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

managing to confiscate every gun and keep people from making them or importing them, it's pointless 2/2

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

And why we should obviously have some degree of Muslim control! Oh. Wait. Nope. My bad.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Ok . By that logic we should have some degree of christian control as well. Oh, wait. Nope my bad.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Totally. That's the point isn't it?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The republicans actually tried to push a bill to the floor that would require a 3 day vetting process for anyone on the terror watch list (1

9 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 11

3 days was for an FBI investigation and it only was for people on the terror watch list. It was shit down because they thought this was 1/2

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

not enough time to find probable cause. 2/2 shot*

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

I'm not saying it's the best solution. My main point was that the media never shows legitimate efforts to compromise from the right.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

But it got shot down by the dems for not being extensive enough. And now they're crying for exactly that. Freakin craziness... (2

9 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 13

uh, yeah, sounds like bullshit, i'm guessing it had a stupid clause or some piggybacked bullshit that made it inadmissible.

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 2

There always stupid clauses and ear marks. Wish more people knew about that though. And of course the media never mentions it.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I, too, want a source. The only similar bill I recall was shot down by republicans, not the other way around.

9 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 1

There are four separate measures, 2 are GOP and 2 are Dem. All four are supposed to die in the senate. Nobody gets credit on this one.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Source?

9 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

I should have done a bit more research before commenting, but here you go:

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/294">4499">http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/294499 ... http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

False equivalency.

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I'm curious if you'd count something like the NLF of Tripura or the anti balaka or the LRA...

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

OP intended a comparison, not an equivalency.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

How so?

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

The examples are extremists of two different religions. Explain?

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I think he means that WBC doesn't publicly behead people and rape women. My take is that is only because of opportunity, not morality.

9 years ago | Likes 66 Dislikes 10

The posts points stands, regardless of people being offended. You still can seperate them.

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

"Explain" @JordanRapp thinks that calling out the names of logical fallacies is the same as winning an argument.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 4

2- I made that comment 11 days ago! Copy pasting my own comments starting now. This shall be a new thing

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I really get sick of these because they're used in place of making a point. Can we make a bullshit term for that, too? ad fallaciam logicum?

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Let's start with the KKK. There is no hint of white supremacy in the bible. They are as much a part of any Christian organization as the >>

9 years ago | Likes 35 Dislikes 10

LDS. Secondly, Westboro. They have less than 40 members, and basically universally disowned by all other Christians. The beliefs of >>

9 years ago | Likes 34 Dislikes 7

Neither the KKK or Westboro are representative of the bible, whereas ISIS has an accurate view of the Hadith and Quran.

9 years ago | Likes 40 Dislikes 10

Did you ever read the Quran?

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 5

YEA THE BIBLE DEFINITELY DOESN'T ADDRESS HOMOSEXUALITY.....

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Get out of here with your logic. Lets just compare the two anyways because lol relijun amirite?

9 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 6

But they don't have accurate views. They have been denounced by high ranking leaders in the faith for violating the religion

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 4

There's literally not a scrap of white supremacy contained in the Bible, and the WBC is a single Kansas family's weird fundamentalist cult.

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"There's literally not a scrap of white supremacy contained in the Bible" Hahahaha, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 19

That's really cringy.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Jewish supremacy (or exceptionalism) if anything.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

WBC may be singular in their tactics and actions, but they are not singular in their beliefs.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Perfect explanation

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Westboro isn't a cult, it's a form of radical Christianity, no different than radical Islam. They are taking the text literally.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

What about the Hebrews as God's chosen ppl?

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

But in the OT there's plenty about killing non-believers.

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 6

Thank you, someone said it.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 6

WBC isn't white supremacist though. phelps was actually a huge player in civil rights back in the day.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The only whites in the bible was Romans

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

thank you. bless you.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 4

Also please don't blame kansas we just care about wheat, beautiful sunsets and chasing tornados.

9 years ago | Likes 28 Dislikes 0

Go Gorillas, baby.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

also don't associate the westboro neighborhood with them, their compound is not in the neighborhood, they just stole the name.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Oh, don't even pretend that any of those is more important to a Kansan than basketball.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

The bible is filled with 'justified' genocides. A Christian calling Muslims violent is not only false it is arrogant and morally repulsive.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 9

Um, all those genocides happened thousands of years ago. Christianity has evolved and it at least somewhat modern. Islam has not changed.

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 5

It sure appears that way when you get to exclude all of your violent hate groups but make sure your scape goat doesn't get to.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 5

as someone that lives 2 blocks from the compound & went to school with some, unfortunately it's not just one family. Their ideas have spread

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

WBC attention-whores for publicity in order to piss people off and bankrolls their so-called church via lawsuits. Whole family is lawyers.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

And there is (or was) more than 30k ISIS fighters who are just the tip of the iceberg of muslim fundamentalism.

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Because 30k is indicative of the majority opinion of 1.7 billion people...

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WBC has like 30(?) members who are so extremist that are willing to protest loudly. Those 30k ISIS guys would cut your throat.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism, plenty of it in modern times

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 2

Yeah. There's way more pages and references here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorism

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

WBC is in Orlando today to protest a few funerals. One sign says, "God sent the shooter." I'm surprised no town has beaten them up yet.

9 years ago | Likes 71 Dislikes 1

People at my workplace said the saaaame thing :/

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That's disturbing. :(

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

This is America. You can portray whatever you want. None cares about those asshats. If you ever see them as a source on something. Run lol

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Because that is what they want. Them sueing people is one of their income sources. They want two things: Attention and a reason to sue.

9 years ago | Likes 59 Dislikes 0

Sounds like Trump

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Would anyone make a big fuss if we just sent them all to those FEMA death camps that are supposed to be all over? I won't tell if you don't.

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Yes, not because I like them. Their right to protest is as important to open democracy as your right to vote. Show the love they don't

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One of the things I think it's hilarious about WBC is that, AFAIK, they never protested in "hick" or "ghetto" towns with their bullshit.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Because they're afraid of rednecks with guns and black people with their elevated debating skills.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

children around as human meat shields. Bunch of bastards. (2/2)

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With other towns, they might get a beating. With the "hick" or "ghetto" towns, they'll most likely get killed. But, they bring their (1/2)

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Wow, really.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Let's exam the KKK instead, hugely widespread in America. 6,000,000 members at their peak.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 4

...and founded and run by the Democrat party.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

Add the terror acts committed by America, your nation is just as bad. Stop invading countries, and they'll stop fighting back.

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It's not hard, your just as bloodthirsty as the Muslims you seek to blame.

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you sure about that? really really sure? cuz, there's some genuinely fucked up shit in the thing.

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It's mostly just fucked up people cherry picking bits and pieces to justify what they already want to do anyway. More homophobic than racist

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Why would there be white supremacy in the Bible when practically no one in the Bible was white? Jesus was middle eastern

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Feel free to post an example.

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Yeah dat shit is metal as fuck.

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ISIS' brand of fundamentalist Islam, derived from the Salafi sect prominent in and exported by Saudi Arabia, cleaves hard to the martial >

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But the saudis are our friends even if 15/19 were saudi. Lets go bomb iraq and iran some more!

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origins of the faith, spread primarily by force on pagan tribes and composed as a whole-life doctrine of behavior. It's not ALL Islam, but

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50 million Salafi Muslims approximately.

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it's IN Islam, and reflections of it can be found in every Islamic nation's governance.

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ISIS is the only Islamic state that throws gay men off buildings, but they're one of 12 Islamic states who execute homosexuals.

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Much is made of ISIS' feared female moral police - but Saudi religious police beat women in the street with steel cables for showing ankle.

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They might be extreme but the bible calls on the faithful to compel others to repentance before God returns and sends gays to hell for being

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fabulous. There's a certain irony in that we stand up and defend gays but we don't think that maybe the bible is a bit fucked up on who gets

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into hell and why. I mean, God flooded the entire planet, killing everything except what was on a boat. Not exactly in control of his anger.

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I am pretty sure that the Old Testament is wildly renounced in this day and age, which is a plus for Christianity in my book. Moving on with

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the times and all that. There is a lot of stupid shit in the bible and they acknowledge that.

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Consider this: God specifically tells Christians, "before you remove the speck from your brother's eye, remove the log from your own" and(1)

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"love the Lord your God with all heart and love your neighbor as yourself." and "as much as it is up to you, live at peace with everyone"(2

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There's plenty of racial superiority in it though

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The entire sense of racial superiority is symbolically destroyed when the earthquake ripped the veil in half. That said the teachings of 1/2

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

St. Paul encourages slavery, homophobia, and sexism, so it still sucks.

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Yeah racial superiority of the mostly middle eastern peoples who wrote the various books (mainly Canaanites and ancient Palestinian,

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Noah's son Ham saw Noah naked, therefore his descendants (eg africans) are cursed and serve the descendents of his brother Shem.

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every biblical scholar will tell you that is a complete load.

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Tell me what it's about if it's not racism. Maybe a more regional and immediate racism for the author, but it's got to be racism.

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no. just no. the idea of 'race' was non-existent at the time. by the time it was written down, you had more codified ethnic groups, but(1

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Hamites of N. Africa were still acceptable for the Semites (Descendants of Shem) to marry. It was all about who would receive God's (2)

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But that doesn't stop people from quoting other parts of the Bible that are 'complete load'.

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you misunderstand, the Ham being cursed part and Shem being raised up is scripturally accurate, the load is using it for justification (1)

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for slavery/racism. the descendants of Shem are today what we call the Semites. God picked his chosen people from among them. The (2)

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There is, if you look in the right places. Like what the white supremacists are doing. It's all a matter of interpretation.

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Can you cite an example?

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Mark of Cain is one. Some people believe(d) that the the descendants of Cain, the first murderer, have dark skin to shame their ancestry.

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you realize they all are dark skinned jews in most of the bible?

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Yes, but later people of European descent twisted the texts to justify slavery/racism.

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_and_mark_of_Cain It's actually a very interesting history.

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In the example you cite it says the belief started during the US slave trade, there is no biblical support for it being a racial mark.

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Except that whole part where wb isn't murdering people...

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Yeah and the KKK never killed anyone. lol. Still beyond the point. Extremists are extremists no matter what colour you paint them.

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keep talking like you know, John Snow.

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And were moderate muslims dont Party in the streets after terrorist attacks

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The KKK kills a lot of people.

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So you're saying that if WBC killed people it would make all Christians bad, but because they don't all Christians are ok?

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No you walnut. He's saying that the wbc and isis aren't comparable comparisons

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In the context of this post that's effectively what he's saying.

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Sure they are. If you can exclude one radical part of one religion, why can't you do the same for another?

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Because the comparison is laughable

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The comparison isn't "laughable." The point isn't the extremity of the extreme parts of the group.

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And Christianity doesn't try to be government of their flock like Islam.

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Um. You're joking, right? The only argument against gay people tends to come from christianity.

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Well...Yeah they do, and historically have.

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The KKK did...bigtime... I guess you people are too young to remember

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They only killed about 3,000 people over the entire course of their existence. Islamists managed that in a single day.

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KKK killed almost 3500 people in about 90 years. Islam got 3000 in one day.

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No.

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He said west boro....? Not the KKK.

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...and where we pretty much dismantled the KKK without being asked to. It's a toothless dragon.

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How many people have been killed directly by the big bad KKK? How many were killed by black on black crime in Chicago/New Orleans or elsewar

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...and the part where neither of these groups exported their hate from the U.S. to other countries.

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You've just described terrorism as exported hate. I like this.

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...and the part where neither group demands that you join them or die.

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...and the part where neither group runs whole countries of hatred and bigotry.

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Christianity has, though. Specifically from the U.S. to Africa.

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References please....

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Literally the entire nation state of Uganda

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