Jul 27, 2016 11:12 AM
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DaDisser
Yea if only it were that simple.
notaballoon
Where is the complex but wrong part? That's where I'm headed
Hybris51129
Sometimes just because a answer is simple doesn't mean its wrong.
Twitchiopolis
In most natural sciences, the simple answer is usually the right one. The more complex a solution, the less probable it is.
jimjangleson
Funny enough, usually the simple solution is more correct. In engineering at least...
Bammbuca
But isn't this exactly opposite from occam's razor principle?
cousteau
No because one is wrong and the other is right; Occam would apply if both were equally right.
RocketPropelledHighFive
The average person thinks they're better than the average person.
I too think that I'm better than myself; that asshole...
kiddub
It's easy to identify the problem, very difficult to identify the solution.
mccar7hy
As a financial advisor, this.
notlesarb1
I love how there's still a drop off at the end of the long path.
jtaskey326
/r/iamverysmart
Arkannon
Don't be a sheeple. Be a wolfple.
HappySylveon
Me, basically.
thekanary
But where are all the other stations for people to get off of 'complex but right' with even more false confidence and fall off the cliff?
thecheerfulpessimist
More like: https://xkcd.com/610/
mikeatike
"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." -H. L. Mencken
thundercactus
But is it the fault of the people for choosing the simpler path if they were never TAUGHT critical thinking in the first place?
killingjoke8181
I'm the kind of guy who goes in between the two roads and just ends up confusing everyone till they walk away.
Sealy300
/r/Im14andthisisdeep
unscot
I can't handle the irony.
Captainplanetmotherfucker
For every complex problem, there is a solution that simple, clear and wrong.
IdiotMcNoobtard
A rather simple cartoon...
YarTheBug
What complex but right comment! ( ͡° ͜つ ͡°)
Cthulhukitten
I'd even say that it's a gross oversimplification.
Beb0p
e z duz it
DavosSeaworthTheOnionKnight
Hey Yo doctor, here's another proper track?
CocktailGaming
That's usually how visual metaphors work...
Thekingofbeans
So anyone who uses visual metaphors is giving a simple message, aren't they?
Jacxy
Aren't you clever.
No. Visual metaphors are usually more comprehensible ways of portraying abstract ideas. That's what makes it "simple".
So sometimes it's okay to send a simple message for a complex idea?
Except the message is not simple. You might want to think about the image critically before dismissing it as "simple".
AnalFissure1
This is trump
Applepotamus
this is trump
Building a wall sounds like a phenomenal idea until you try to justify it against actual facts and finances.
gebsmith1
Since polls are showing fewer people supporting Trump then Trump is the more complex but right answer?
pdxenburg
He was at 47% in a poll out today. H at 40%
inconspicuouselephant
I gain extreme satisfaction from giving long-winded, complex correct answers. Not only do I get it off my chest but hopefully teach someone
debunker
I like you.
Same. Also sometimes learn stuff myself.
Thesinlesssinner
I'd much rather someone give me the complex answer that's right and me learn something anyway. Good on you +1
Bonerhitler
I gain extreme satisfaction from not listening to self-important nerds. Not only do I save minutes of my life but hopefully teach someone.
What?
Cereaza
I agree. While an economy of thought may breed clarity, oversimplification can be dangerous is ignoring the important nuances of reality.
Also, in-depth answers foster discussion and growth. That's how you learn and expand your mind. Socratic method
TooLazyToDoSomethingElse
Just because an answer is complex doesn't make it right and vice versa.
When has the right answer ever not been complex?
2+2=4
But why does 2+2=4 and not some other number?
Bob64
We're talking about the people that still believe the earth is flat here. Clearly balls are too complex to understand.
myr14d
'Right' is a moving target. Usually the best you can hope for is 'not as wrong as you could be'.
Yep. Slavery used to be "right". Standing idly by during a foreign genocide used to be "right", too.
MyUserNameIsNotImportant
I think it's more about, when given a choice, most people will choose "Simple but wrong" over "Complex but right".
Tom40
Then just take the simple but wrong answer and do the opposite?
Here's an example; Should we intern all muslim people in the US? Simple and wrong answer would be; muslim terrorism is a thing, therefore...
yes. Complex and correct answer would be there are more muslims fighting muslim terrorists than there are of anyone else. And religion...
does not dictate the type of person you are. Extremism can exist with any cover story. Therefore, we should not punish innocent people...
eternalposer
Literally nothing is simple if you are curious enough about it. Oversimplification may not be as wrong as denying facts but its still wrong.
Literally? Really? Explain to me how 2+2=4 isn't simple.
You only think it's simple because you don't understand theoretical mathematics.
http://www.askamathematician.com/2009/10/q-how-can-we-prove-that-22-always-equals-4/
HellaDangerZone
It's funny because this provides a simple but wrong image of how people choose answers.
Pretty accurate interpretation of the bandwagon fallacy
Fenriswaffles
Not just bandwagon effect/fallacy, I am pretty sure cognitively simpler answers tend to get more support. Its just how humans work.
I guess that would be WHY the bandwagon fallacy works in the first place lol
Yoooo've got a point there, not sure why I didn't make the connection.
3ls4
Don't we usually find, that the simple answers are most often the true answers?
Simple: there are 4 elements. Complex: there are around one hundred elements. You forgot the "but wrong" part.
God creating the earth is a pretty simple answer. Evolution is not.
StubbornViking
If you get down to it, evolution is a fairly simple answer as well. Ones simply faith based while the other is hypothesis and observation.
Furthermore, in any form of problem solving, the solution is more often than not the simplest path.
Well with creation, you just have to believe god created the earth. With evolution, you have to prove how it works, and why it works, then
explain how life started in the first place if not by some magic omnipotent being.
God creating the Earth, and evolution shaping it's species could be considered two equally simple answers, no? 1/2
Though you could elaborate both concepts into long and detailed descriptions 2/2
Splitting hairs. If you question evolution, you can get a detailed explanation and source of proof. If you question creation, ultimately...
the answer is always "god is infallible" or something. But the reason it's a simple answer, is because it didn't require any work to get it
CaptainAsshole
Do they both lead off the cliff?
IAmNotASkeleton
ye
Na
JackHandy70
Yes. No matter what choices you make, you still die at the end.
Walt says fuck you
rushingnothing
No. The quest for knowledge never ends. But it does for those stupid enough to think their is only one simple answer to everything.
Wolfe65
I think it's actually a clever Plato reference in the setting.
Veypiiq
Yes, one's a Clinton Presidency and the others a Trump Presidency
ivFusion
I thought that people taking the easy way out leads off the cliff, people who put the effort in get to where they want to go.
They all wanted to go over the cliff?
MCLoopies
Well, it's complex.
doyouevenusername
Seems like the real solution is to never go looking for answers then. The hidden message: Ignorance is bliss
cutiepatoodiepumpkinbooty
Yes, to the left is a short joyless fall, where you don't actually die on impact, but a longer prolonged painful death. While on the 1/?
Right you have a longer joyful fall that will leave you with enough time to think just how painful life actually is for either side, to 2/?
The left you suffer from the pain of a longer death, while on the right the struggle to reach the top was pain as well as seeing everyone3/?
To the left hurt themselves. But to the right you get the joyful curse of knowledge, while on the left is the short sweet bliss of ignorance
4/? 5/5
Sipsap88
It's just a more prolonged painful death. Who wants to actually think for themselves? Someone please tell me what to think.
whosaidjehovah
Make America great again.
You should think about bending over
Baferius
We all lie in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.
Time to roll you over again
ShaZam1269
Oscar Wilde?
Terry Pratchett
DuffMaaaann
/r/im14andthisisdeep
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LivingDecomposition
Coward. Didn't even leave the comment up for an hour.
DrFreakBerg
I didn't delete the comment. I said banging kids with my small penis cause it is a joke about the subreddit name.
afunnyusernameperiod
2edgy5me
CleverClint407
Sexy
guhstyy
wrongreference.jpg
Speedwagonsan
Not wrong and not a reference, he straight out said it
Opinions I guess :)
*looks at downvotes* Ehh sure I guess
Damn :/
tep4
when u get pumped and then it isnt a sub reddit
tablecat
Yes it is?
AMartianPotato
But it is..
aaaand i was spelling it deap...
Thedrunkpoet
A simple answer, mostly made by laziness
TwoCatsZeroFucks
I can hold an entire class period by showing my students one of these pictures. They spur great educational moments. Clearly you need some.
Piornet
Remember no artist anywhere is allowed to make any point whatsoever without some unoriginal asshole saying "r/im14andthis is deep HURR HURR"
More because this is so vague it's painful and is only emphasized by fedora tipping fucktards who have a hard on for fighting religion.
LyonEnigma
Don't like someone's opinion? Just call them sheep! That way you can pat yourself on the back for sounding smart and never have to listen!
IHateApostrophes
Yeah but posts like this are so vague and uninspired that the only person who finds meaning in them is the kind who just enjoys feeling smug
As opposed to typing "r/im14andthisisdeep", which is incredibly specific and inspired.
Well, at least it allows you to feel smug about it.
LetumComplexo
Yes and no. Because many of them deserve it for their blatant plays on narcissism and fear.
People aren't trying to have a legitimate critique, they just see a cartoon and immediately scroll down to be the first to make that comment
Thanks for assuming what I do. A lot of the shit cartoons that get posted on imgur easily fall into that category.
Also, "legitimate critique". Who died and made you judge?
OrbitalTeapot
That comment is used appropriately here. This picture is not deep at all, that's the joke. It's a concept a 14 year old could blog about.
Everyone seeing this: "Ha, other people."
cptkipard
Really? I've never met anyone who took pride in seeing complex things the way they are.
ProfWhiskersEsq
Thommy Lee Jones, "A person is smart, people are stupid" Thats what I see.
MrGrayandPink
Ha, them suckers have to read
AmpsterMan
But this is such a complex but right image.
cptoblivious
Most people go left. Engineers go right.
I used to think that people were retarded, and persons were smart. Then facebook happened and I encountered a lot of retarded persons.
Tikityler
I saw it and went ha, implying simple is always wrong and complex is typically correct.
BarnabasWizardcock
I'm actually relating this to my workplace. I'm also on the left path but only because I have to.
TheDrySideOfThePenny
Other people are so fucking stupid.
MonsterRooster
They sure are.
JustDontCare
I was thinking more along the lines of "I wonder how many times I chose simple but wrong."
Mokelzwerg
ShabbaLife
"Pretty much sums up all those liberals/conservatives right guys!?"
noone11
this guy thinks he's one of the smart ones
spict
Nah. This comment was in another post too. Not new.
RabbitOfCaerbannog
There are basically two kinds of people: me, and everyone else.
ashittypuncomment
Ha! I'm not the one over simplifying issues
Nobody thinks they are.
ty74
At some point there is a level of introspection that leads in no direction.
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
It leads in circles
dpidcoe
I was thinking more infinite recursion than a circle.
Corona688
With minor optimization that just becomes a circle anyway.
but doesn't that depend on if it's head recursion or tail recursion?
WarlockOfLight
Yeah, but then you start recursively thinking about recursive introspection.
I think this is the highest scoring comment I've made, and I stole it from the last time this was posted.
TheSacrificialButter
Proven success.
The great thing is that you can use it for pretty much any political cartoon
Alexeymonk13
Me seeing your comment: "Ha, yeah, other people."
flummoxed0709
Me seeing this and the following thread:up votes for all!
Rugbyrucker
Why not Zoidberg?
Iamthemonkeymansowhatevercats
Me seeing your comment: "Ha, yeah, other other people."
DoubleSunMoonMoon
Me reading your comment: "Ha, yeah, otter people."
SoraPonyBoyVersetti
Me commenting on your seeing: "Ha, yeah other people"
TheFirstAvailableUsername
"Ha, yeah other people"
IHateSupernatural
"elpeop rehto haey, aH" gnieens ruoy no gnitnemmoc eM
DaDisser
Yea if only it were that simple.
notaballoon
Where is the complex but wrong part? That's where I'm headed
Hybris51129
Sometimes just because a answer is simple doesn't mean its wrong.
Twitchiopolis
In most natural sciences, the simple answer is usually the right one. The more complex a solution, the less probable it is.
jimjangleson
Funny enough, usually the simple solution is more correct. In engineering at least...
Bammbuca
But isn't this exactly opposite from occam's razor principle?
cousteau
No because one is wrong and the other is right; Occam would apply if both were equally right.
RocketPropelledHighFive
The average person thinks they're better than the average person.
cousteau
I too think that I'm better than myself; that asshole...
kiddub
It's easy to identify the problem, very difficult to identify the solution.
mccar7hy
As a financial advisor, this.
notlesarb1
I love how there's still a drop off at the end of the long path.
jtaskey326
/r/iamverysmart
Arkannon
Don't be a sheeple. Be a wolfple.
HappySylveon
Me, basically.
thekanary
But where are all the other stations for people to get off of 'complex but right' with even more false confidence and fall off the cliff?
thecheerfulpessimist
More like: https://xkcd.com/610/
mikeatike
"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." -H. L. Mencken
thundercactus
But is it the fault of the people for choosing the simpler path if they were never TAUGHT critical thinking in the first place?
killingjoke8181
I'm the kind of guy who goes in between the two roads and just ends up confusing everyone till they walk away.
Sealy300
/r/Im14andthisisdeep
unscot
I can't handle the irony.
Captainplanetmotherfucker
For every complex problem, there is a solution that simple, clear and wrong.
IdiotMcNoobtard
A rather simple cartoon...
YarTheBug
What complex but right comment! ( ͡° ͜つ ͡°)
Cthulhukitten
I'd even say that it's a gross oversimplification.
Beb0p
e z duz it
DavosSeaworthTheOnionKnight
Hey Yo doctor, here's another proper track?
CocktailGaming
That's usually how visual metaphors work...
Thekingofbeans
So anyone who uses visual metaphors is giving a simple message, aren't they?
Jacxy
Aren't you clever.
CocktailGaming
No. Visual metaphors are usually more comprehensible ways of portraying abstract ideas. That's what makes it "simple".
Thekingofbeans
So sometimes it's okay to send a simple message for a complex idea?
CocktailGaming
Except the message is not simple. You might want to think about the image critically before dismissing it as "simple".
AnalFissure1
This is trump
Applepotamus
this is trump
thundercactus
Building a wall sounds like a phenomenal idea until you try to justify it against actual facts and finances.
gebsmith1
Since polls are showing fewer people supporting Trump then Trump is the more complex but right answer?
pdxenburg
He was at 47% in a poll out today. H at 40%
inconspicuouselephant
I gain extreme satisfaction from giving long-winded, complex correct answers. Not only do I get it off my chest but hopefully teach someone
debunker
I like you.
thundercactus
Same. Also sometimes learn stuff myself.
Thesinlesssinner
I'd much rather someone give me the complex answer that's right and me learn something anyway. Good on you +1
Bonerhitler
I gain extreme satisfaction from not listening to self-important nerds. Not only do I save minutes of my life but hopefully teach someone.
inconspicuouselephant
What?
Cereaza
I agree. While an economy of thought may breed clarity, oversimplification can be dangerous is ignoring the important nuances of reality.
inconspicuouselephant
Also, in-depth answers foster discussion and growth. That's how you learn and expand your mind. Socratic method
TooLazyToDoSomethingElse
Just because an answer is complex doesn't make it right and vice versa.
pdxenburg
When has the right answer ever not been complex?
TooLazyToDoSomethingElse
2+2=4
thundercactus
But why does 2+2=4 and not some other number?
Bob64
We're talking about the people that still believe the earth is flat here. Clearly balls are too complex to understand.
myr14d
'Right' is a moving target. Usually the best you can hope for is 'not as wrong as you could be'.
thundercactus
Yep. Slavery used to be "right". Standing idly by during a foreign genocide used to be "right", too.
MyUserNameIsNotImportant
I think it's more about, when given a choice, most people will choose "Simple but wrong" over "Complex but right".
Tom40
Then just take the simple but wrong answer and do the opposite?
thundercactus
Here's an example; Should we intern all muslim people in the US? Simple and wrong answer would be; muslim terrorism is a thing, therefore...
thundercactus
yes. Complex and correct answer would be there are more muslims fighting muslim terrorists than there are of anyone else. And religion...
thundercactus
does not dictate the type of person you are. Extremism can exist with any cover story. Therefore, we should not punish innocent people...
eternalposer
Literally nothing is simple if you are curious enough about it. Oversimplification may not be as wrong as denying facts but its still wrong.
TooLazyToDoSomethingElse
Literally? Really? Explain to me how 2+2=4 isn't simple.
thundercactus
You only think it's simple because you don't understand theoretical mathematics.
thundercactus
http://www.askamathematician.com/2009/10/q-how-can-we-prove-that-22-always-equals-4/
HellaDangerZone
It's funny because this provides a simple but wrong image of how people choose answers.
thundercactus
Pretty accurate interpretation of the bandwagon fallacy
Fenriswaffles
Not just bandwagon effect/fallacy, I am pretty sure cognitively simpler answers tend to get more support. Its just how humans work.
thundercactus
I guess that would be WHY the bandwagon fallacy works in the first place lol
Fenriswaffles
Yoooo've got a point there, not sure why I didn't make the connection.
3ls4
Don't we usually find, that the simple answers are most often the true answers?
cousteau
Simple: there are 4 elements. Complex: there are around one hundred elements. You forgot the "but wrong" part.
thundercactus
God creating the earth is a pretty simple answer. Evolution is not.
StubbornViking
If you get down to it, evolution is a fairly simple answer as well. Ones simply faith based while the other is hypothesis and observation.
StubbornViking
Furthermore, in any form of problem solving, the solution is more often than not the simplest path.
thundercactus
Well with creation, you just have to believe god created the earth. With evolution, you have to prove how it works, and why it works, then
thundercactus
explain how life started in the first place if not by some magic omnipotent being.
3ls4
God creating the Earth, and evolution shaping it's species could be considered two equally simple answers, no? 1/2
3ls4
Though you could elaborate both concepts into long and detailed descriptions 2/2
thundercactus
Splitting hairs. If you question evolution, you can get a detailed explanation and source of proof. If you question creation, ultimately...
thundercactus
the answer is always "god is infallible" or something. But the reason it's a simple answer, is because it didn't require any work to get it
CaptainAsshole
Do they both lead off the cliff?
IAmNotASkeleton
ye
CaptainAsshole
Na
JackHandy70
Yes. No matter what choices you make, you still die at the end.
CaptainAsshole
Walt says fuck you
rushingnothing
No. The quest for knowledge never ends. But it does for those stupid enough to think their is only one simple answer to everything.
Wolfe65
I think it's actually a clever Plato reference in the setting.
Veypiiq
Yes, one's a Clinton Presidency and the others a Trump Presidency
ivFusion
I thought that people taking the easy way out leads off the cliff, people who put the effort in get to where they want to go.
CaptainAsshole
They all wanted to go over the cliff?
MCLoopies
Well, it's complex.
doyouevenusername
Seems like the real solution is to never go looking for answers then. The hidden message: Ignorance is bliss
cutiepatoodiepumpkinbooty
Yes, to the left is a short joyless fall, where you don't actually die on impact, but a longer prolonged painful death. While on the 1/?
cutiepatoodiepumpkinbooty
Right you have a longer joyful fall that will leave you with enough time to think just how painful life actually is for either side, to 2/?
cutiepatoodiepumpkinbooty
The left you suffer from the pain of a longer death, while on the right the struggle to reach the top was pain as well as seeing everyone3/?
cutiepatoodiepumpkinbooty
To the left hurt themselves. But to the right you get the joyful curse of knowledge, while on the left is the short sweet bliss of ignorance
cutiepatoodiepumpkinbooty
4/? 5/5
Sipsap88
It's just a more prolonged painful death. Who wants to actually think for themselves? Someone please tell me what to think.
whosaidjehovah
Make America great again.
CaptainAsshole
You should think about bending over
Baferius
We all lie in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.
CaptainAsshole
Time to roll you over again
ShaZam1269
Oscar Wilde?
Baferius
Terry Pratchett
DuffMaaaann
/r/im14andthisisdeep
[deleted]
[deleted]
LivingDecomposition
Coward. Didn't even leave the comment up for an hour.
DrFreakBerg
I didn't delete the comment. I said banging kids with my small penis cause it is a joke about the subreddit name.
afunnyusernameperiod
2edgy5me
CleverClint407
Sexy
guhstyy
wrongreference.jpg
Speedwagonsan
Not wrong and not a reference, he straight out said it
guhstyy
Opinions I guess :)
Speedwagonsan
*looks at downvotes* Ehh sure I guess
guhstyy
Damn :/
tep4
when u get pumped and then it isnt a sub reddit
tablecat
Yes it is?
AMartianPotato
But it is..
tep4
aaaand i was spelling it deap...
Thedrunkpoet
A simple answer, mostly made by laziness
TwoCatsZeroFucks
I can hold an entire class period by showing my students one of these pictures. They spur great educational moments. Clearly you need some.
Piornet
Remember no artist anywhere is allowed to make any point whatsoever without some unoriginal asshole saying "r/im14andthis is deep HURR HURR"
StubbornViking
More because this is so vague it's painful and is only emphasized by fedora tipping fucktards who have a hard on for fighting religion.
LyonEnigma
Don't like someone's opinion? Just call them sheep! That way you can pat yourself on the back for sounding smart and never have to listen!
IHateApostrophes
Yeah but posts like this are so vague and uninspired that the only person who finds meaning in them is the kind who just enjoys feeling smug
Piornet
As opposed to typing "r/im14andthisisdeep", which is incredibly specific and inspired.
IHateApostrophes
Well, at least it allows you to feel smug about it.
LetumComplexo
Yes and no. Because many of them deserve it for their blatant plays on narcissism and fear.
Piornet
People aren't trying to have a legitimate critique, they just see a cartoon and immediately scroll down to be the first to make that comment
LetumComplexo
Thanks for assuming what I do. A lot of the shit cartoons that get posted on imgur easily fall into that category.
LetumComplexo
Also, "legitimate critique". Who died and made you judge?
OrbitalTeapot
That comment is used appropriately here. This picture is not deep at all, that's the joke. It's a concept a 14 year old could blog about.
LivingDecomposition
Everyone seeing this: "Ha, other people."
cptkipard
Really? I've never met anyone who took pride in seeing complex things the way they are.
ProfWhiskersEsq
Thommy Lee Jones, "A person is smart, people are stupid" Thats what I see.
MrGrayandPink
Ha, them suckers have to read
AmpsterMan
But this is such a complex but right image.
cptoblivious
Most people go left. Engineers go right.
thundercactus
I used to think that people were retarded, and persons were smart. Then facebook happened and I encountered a lot of retarded persons.
Tikityler
I saw it and went ha, implying simple is always wrong and complex is typically correct.
BarnabasWizardcock
I'm actually relating this to my workplace. I'm also on the left path but only because I have to.
TheDrySideOfThePenny
Other people are so fucking stupid.
MonsterRooster
They sure are.
JustDontCare
I was thinking more along the lines of "I wonder how many times I chose simple but wrong."
Mokelzwerg
ShabbaLife
"Pretty much sums up all those liberals/conservatives right guys!?"
noone11
this guy thinks he's one of the smart ones
spict
Nah. This comment was in another post too. Not new.
RabbitOfCaerbannog
There are basically two kinds of people: me, and everyone else.
ashittypuncomment
Ha! I'm not the one over simplifying issues
Thekingofbeans
Nobody thinks they are.
ty74
At some point there is a level of introspection that leads in no direction.
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
It leads in circles
dpidcoe
I was thinking more infinite recursion than a circle.
Corona688
With minor optimization that just becomes a circle anyway.
dpidcoe
but doesn't that depend on if it's head recursion or tail recursion?
WarlockOfLight
Yeah, but then you start recursively thinking about recursive introspection.
LivingDecomposition
I think this is the highest scoring comment I've made, and I stole it from the last time this was posted.
TheSacrificialButter
Proven success.
LivingDecomposition
The great thing is that you can use it for pretty much any political cartoon
Alexeymonk13
Me seeing your comment: "Ha, yeah, other people."
flummoxed0709
Me seeing this and the following thread:up votes for all!
Rugbyrucker
Why not Zoidberg?
Iamthemonkeymansowhatevercats
Me seeing your comment: "Ha, yeah, other other people."
DoubleSunMoonMoon
Me reading your comment: "Ha, yeah, otter people."
SoraPonyBoyVersetti
Me commenting on your seeing: "Ha, yeah other people"
TheFirstAvailableUsername
"Ha, yeah other people"
IHateSupernatural
"elpeop rehto haey, aH" gnieens ruoy no gnitnemmoc eM