I agree with the general idea, here. We all picture that parent frothing at the mouth yelling at the ump. Don’t be that. But I also really enjoy making a game more than a game. I’m not suggesting bad behavior, I just think sports are enjoyable being a different level than checkers with gramps. I kinda disagree with that particular bullet point.
Hockey is always interesting in this regard. The sport is crazy expensive to play - at this point it is calculated to cost almost half a million dollars to raise a kid capable of playing in the NHL. When parents invest that much, you can imagine how intensely they view the games. There are stories every year of parents being banned for going after other parents, refs (who are often kids) or other players.
I'm glad I'm not like that for my kids. I don't care if they win or lose as long as they practice at least 4 hours a day and are the best in the world.
As a parent, I really wish that there was something in between "Community sports 2 months a year with parents coaching for $36 per year" and "Your child will live, breathe, and die this one sport 6 practices a week, 5 games every weekend, and mandatory 2 hour daily conditioning all supervised by professional coaches, professional trainers, and specialty coaches for $1,200 / month."
My dad used to go crazy during games and I used to play and cry. My mum told me to tell him that I'd never play again if he shouted once more and he never did, just giving me thumbs up instead. I got better dramatically with the positive affirmation and almost made a career out the sport
When I was about 12-15 I umpires little league games(for a whopping 7 bucks a game!), and the amount of parents that had to be escorted off the field was unreasonable.
My kid was in marital arts and he lost to another kid. It happens. He was frustrated but I told him about good sportsmanship and brought him over to the other kid to congratulate him. The kid's parents thought I was coming over to yell at them. Good heavens no lol.
While it is sad that they need to put up signs like this, not all sports parents suck. Most of them just want their kids to learn sportsmanship, make some friends, get some exercise and get off their fucking screens for two minutes. My kid has played baseball for about 10 seasons (spring and fall ball) and I have only seen a couple parents act crazy, mostly just yelling at umps for missing an obvious call. Most of the parents are too busy looking at their phone to even watch the game
When my kid was in Little League, I stopped a dad from going after coaches with a bat. His 12yo was out at home, iirc, and the dad was pissed that the coach sent him.
I also got into an argument with a mom because she accused me of yelling at her daughter, when I was actually defending her from a kid that told her to "suck [his] dick!"
Her daughter was an asshole, just like the mom, but no one deserves to be spoken to like that.
I'll never be involved with anything like that again. Nuts.
I have life long shoulder damage from being told to push through and overing my arm as a softball pitcher in my youth. Parents need to calm the fuck down on children's sports.
"I don't care how you feel, you have a job to do. Now take this gravol, benadryl, cough syrup, and Tylenol and get on the ice. You've a responsibility, I don't care how sick you are." -- my mother to 11 year old me re: one of my countless hockey games when I was clearly very ill 🙄. I feel you, friend.
It’s a sign of the times and how things are now in the US. Certain professional sports pay huge amounts of money. These parents see it as setting up their kids for life if they make the big time.
The parents aren’t seeing dollar bills for their kids. They’re seeing them for themselves. Rabid sports parents are convinced that their little shithead will make the Show, and then support them forever.
It’s sad, it’s pathetic, and it’s adjacent to abuse, often.
you hear it in how they talk "I'm turning my kid into a star athlete" as if they were the ones doing the work on and off the field. The only thing they are accomplishing is being their kid's first bully.
God if I was related to that man I'd be so fucking embarrassed by this I'd quit the sport instantly. Imagine that being your dad, damn man. Kid ain't got no chance.
I'd call the cops. If this same shove happened outside the sport it'd be criminal assault, but if its sports you just get kicked out? No way, File charges on him.
Used to referee soccer ages 16 and under. At the tournaments, the league organizer would station golf carts near the fields to swoop out and pick up the refs as soon as the game was called, to prevent them being mobbed by angry parents. Insanity.
My 14 yo refereed U8 boys games. He played since 6 so this was to help out. Just a few a-holes would yell at him, telling him he didn’t know what he was doing, that he shouldn’t be there, that he was blind. He was 14! And doing it for like $10/ game. And the boys on the field were 7, so the point wasn’t to call much, just keep the game going - it’s just little guys running after a ball. The league referees would come to help coach him and end up having to referee the jerks.
I reffed mini rugby as a teenager (7-13, split into age and size groups) when I was younger. I would tell both teams before the game that I would stop play for any contact above the armpits in order to help the kids get in the habit of safe tackling. There were always nods all round from the adults, until it was their kids getting whistles against them. I had more than one grown bloody man screaming at me, after their darling son who really wasn't that type of player had to sit down for 5 min
Further info, a 5 min sit down was for a yellow card, 2 of them and it's a red which means they can't play anymore that day. So the parents would have wasted a Saturday. This was of course my fault and not the kids or coaches fault for not teaching the kids to tackle safely
You could ban them from the team for a certain amount of time after 3 strikes or one severe one. Sure the kid suffers too, but the kid suffers from their parents yelling behavior too, so I think it would help the kid out in the long run to stop that.
Having watched the HBO documentary about the parents living vicariously through their children's sports and the one kid doesn't want to do it anymore and his father has a meltdown so severe the camera crew had to call the cops. There are parents who think their kids are the next Mike Piazza or the next LeBron James, or any other sports icon in select sport.
I love you and respect your take here. In fact it's all correct, but why of all people Mike Piazza. I mean sure MVP and world champ... but.. there are so many more well known guys... help
As Steve Hofstetter put it, "There are two reasons to have kids. Just two. One is that you have so much love in your home and your heart that you need someone to share it with. And that's beautiful. The other is that you failed at what you set out to do in life and you want round two."
Watched a football kid break his back for the 2nd time at a camp last year - literally crunched into a fieldside bench that was mounted in a weird place.. grandma txts the other moms, he'll be back on the field for the school season. 13 yrs old. Some of them do get full ride offers, but as soon as my kid lost interest, we were so relieved.
Worse, I bet. If you got to Cooperstown, NY, there is a baseball diamond complex where all these kids play baseball. There's like at least over 30 diamonds.
I don't need a documentary. Just being a kid in the 90s doing kids sports. Baseball-dads made me not interested in it. But my parents were cool and were like "do what you wanna". I can't imagine how fucked up sports-parents are today.
Mike piazza is literally a underdog story. He was the last player taken in the entire baseball draft that year, taken (if I recall correctly...I haven't fact-checked myself) as a favor to an uncle(?...or something?) who was a friend of the team. Then he rose through the tanks and became one of the best hitting catchers to ever play the game.
My dad shat on my dreams like "you aren't going to become famous being a musician or being a wrestler" then forced me to play football like he though my fat awkward ass was going to be an NFL quarterback or something.
I was this child. My mom had me in swimming, by 14 I was competing in Olympic trials but being bullied by my teammates and had no free time for any normal high school stuff, so I hated it. I had 9 2hr practices a week and was chronicly sleep deprived, it was brutal. Quitting took 2 years of screaming matches, threatening to move out even though I was legally too young, and I spent 6 months being dropped off at practices but leaving until my coach told my mom she can't physically force me to ...
...attend and that it was dangerous for a 15 year old girl to be wondering around downtown alone at 5 am. It was all super fucked up and contributed to an anxiety disorder. And it was never for me, but that doesn't stop her from telling me it was all "for my own good" and that I was "too good to quit" to this day.
I'm so sorry. My sister went through that for gymnastics. Was homeschooled since 7 because she practiced 6+ hours a day, 6 days a week, at a private gym. She was on the junior national team heading for the Olympics before having enough. She quit and then just dominated the college level without much effort.
That was basically me and my dad, sadly. He was none too pleased that his first born son wasn't a jacked sports athlete, but instead a quiet, Autistic nerd. I'm just super thankful that I decided to cut ties with him when I was 8, mostly because he scared me. Far better this way, I think. Hadn't much heard of him since and I'm 36 now.
I have two sons and I can’t imagine losing them for something like this. I love them with my entire being just the way they are. Very different boys and I’m so proud of them both and so grateful they include me in their interests. I am so sorry you don’t have that love. I am sending good Dad vibes to you specifically. I don’t know how the universe works but maybe that matters a little bit somehow. I hope so!
The only time you should scare an 8 year old is when they're about to do something extremely dangerous and you need to stop them. That's the only reason I can think of.
But for the love of God, don't instill fear in them for trying things like skateboarding or something they enjoy. My mother was super extreme hover mom and would pass her fears on to me of hurting myself to the point I'd get anxious when I was completely confident just moments before hearing, "you're going to hurt yourself!"
I think it means more like, about to jump off a roof to "fly" or stick a fork in an electrical socket. Skateboarding has risks that can be mitigated through safety gear and encouraging age and skill-level appropriate practice
For sure. I just wish someone had said, "You can do it, buddy!" instead of, "you're just going to hurt yourself!" once you put the idea in a child's brain that what they're going to do is going to hurt them that's all they think about. At least that was me, anyway. But yes, please don't let your children electrocute themselves!
I'm both sorry you have such a shitty dad, but proud of you to be able to recognize a cancerous person in your life & cut him out at such an early age. It's quite telling he never tried to make amends.
Not really. Only heard from him twice; once when I was thirteen and another about 6 years ago when he was having heart problems and needed surgery. He sorta wanted to make amends in the event he died, yet never apologized about anything.
Yeah. My dad had visitation rights for every other weekend. After a particular event, I said I didn't want to see him anymore. Simply said, I didn't feel loved by him and he was only ever mean to me. He still came by for a while for my sister for a while, but made no effort to even say hi to me. He eventually stopped coming for her with no word. It wasn't until some time later that the reason why is he moved out of state. Real stand-up guy.
The football father was an absolute monster. The basketball dad was blowing money like it was going out of style on getting his son the expensive basketball training only for the son to get drafted by a low ranking college in the NCAA. Basketball dad would scream until horse that his son was not being used right or everything was a bad call, and the referees told him multiple times to calm down or be thrown out. I don't remember if basketball dad does, but he burns every bridge in town.
Munchman347
'Rude Parents will be ejected'...
manhands
I agree with the general idea, here. We all picture that parent frothing at the mouth yelling at the ump. Don’t be that. But I also really enjoy making a game more than a game. I’m not suggesting bad behavior, I just think sports are enjoyable being a different level than checkers with gramps. I kinda disagree with that particular bullet point.
semperknight
Since all the major and smaller companies have been gobbled up, there's a new thing called "macro monopolies". Where corporations buy up smaller venues you would think would never be monopolized. Two of that I'm aware of our pet crematoriums and little league. I shit you not. The latter is a 19 billion dollar empire. Proof:https://www.americamagazine.org/politics-society/2022/05/19/catholic-youth-sports-little-league-club-baseball-243016
ElBivo
Hockey is always interesting in this regard. The sport is crazy expensive to play - at this point it is calculated to cost almost half a million dollars to raise a kid capable of playing in the NHL. When parents invest that much, you can imagine how intensely they view the games. There are stories every year of parents being banned for going after other parents, refs (who are often kids) or other players.
unannouncedguest
I'm glad I'm not like that for my kids. I don't care if they win or lose as long as they practice at least 4 hours a day and are the best in the world.
ShadeMeadowsArt
Still to understand why people take any sports seriously
Ricdesan
the last item should read:
SomeDetroitGuy
As a parent, I really wish that there was something in between "Community sports 2 months a year with parents coaching for $36 per year" and "Your child will live, breathe, and die this one sport 6 practices a week, 5 games every weekend, and mandatory 2 hour daily conditioning all supervised by professional coaches, professional trainers, and specialty coaches for $1,200 / month."
drhobotron
Childhood athletics is where adults get to replay or reprocess there own failures.
fbeck1969
This should have been apllied to 4-H when I was a kid.
WolfandPals
My dad used to go crazy during games and I used to play and cry. My mum told me to tell him that I'd never play again if he shouted once more and he never did, just giving me thumbs up instead. I got better dramatically with the positive affirmation and almost made a career out the sport
Toasterlovin
When I was about 12-15 I umpires little league games(for a whopping 7 bucks a game!), and the amount of parents that had to be escorted off the field was unreasonable.
wazeewa
My kid was in marital arts and he lost to another kid. It happens. He was frustrated but I told him about good sportsmanship and brought him over to the other kid to congratulate him. The kid's parents thought I was coming over to yell at them. Good heavens no lol.
HighMagosSquidward
"Do not attempt to live vicariously through your children" is just good life advice, I think. Applies to everything.
Felimelinesk
Wait till you meet the Dance moms or the Little Miss Thisandthat moms!
Ilikebigtrucksandicannotlie2718
While it is sad that they need to put up signs like this, not all sports parents suck. Most of them just want their kids to learn sportsmanship, make some friends, get some exercise and get off their fucking screens for two minutes. My kid has played baseball for about 10 seasons (spring and fall ball) and I have only seen a couple parents act crazy, mostly just yelling at umps for missing an obvious call. Most of the parents are too busy looking at their phone to even watch the game
averageNerdyGuy
There’s a difference between Sports Parents and parents that are taking their kids to sports or activities.
Teratoid
When my kid was in Little League, I stopped a dad from going after coaches with a bat. His 12yo was out at home, iirc, and the dad was pissed that the coach sent him.
I also got into an argument with a mom because she accused me of yelling at her daughter, when I was actually defending her from a kid that told her to "suck [his] dick!"
Her daughter was an asshole, just like the mom, but no one deserves to be spoken to like that.
I'll never be involved with anything like that again. Nuts.
Spidermonkey969696
It's disturbing how young they are when they start being trained to do sexual harrassment/put up with sexual harassment. That's so fucked.
JustHereToUpvoteThings
I have life long shoulder damage from being told to push through and overing my arm as a softball pitcher in my youth. Parents need to calm the fuck down on children's sports.
tibby
"I don't care how you feel, you have a job to do. Now take this gravol, benadryl, cough syrup, and Tylenol and get on the ice. You've a responsibility, I don't care how sick you are." -- my mother to 11 year old me re: one of my countless hockey games when I was clearly very ill 🙄. I feel you, friend.
neilwatkinsfromaccounting
LaffertyDanie1
Nanntuckett
I still say that wasn’t a strike
neilwatkinsfromaccounting
Listen, yesterday that was a ball, tomorrow it might be a ball, but today it's a strike.
ginalynn8942
Gotta fight it out
Ricdesan
Parents can be removed from the premises
HillOfBeans
Anthony totally missed that base, we all saw it.
ginalynn8942
Get ‘em. Don’t let that slide
Purplecoconut
It’s a sign of the times and how things are now in the US. Certain professional sports pay huge amounts of money. These parents see it as setting up their kids for life if they make the big time.
averageNerdyGuy
The parents aren’t seeing dollar bills for their kids. They’re seeing them for themselves. Rabid sports parents are convinced that their little shithead will make the Show, and then support them forever.
It’s sad, it’s pathetic, and it’s adjacent to abuse, often.
DivorcedOfCourse
For some it’s not even just about the kids. I’ve noticed there are parents that expect their own payouts and back pats.
SarcasticComment
you hear it in how they talk "I'm turning my kid into a star athlete" as if they were the ones doing the work on and off the field. The only thing they are accomplishing is being their kid's first bully.
McPuffinStuff
They could have used the sign here.
doodlydoofus
$5 says the dad was just that pissed that his son lost to......GASP a......girl!
kamenhokage
Is that Alex Jones?
mikeatike
The story on this is great. The ref is a lawyer and the dad fled the county before being arrested. https://hoodline.com/2024/06/virginia-man-charged-with-assault-on-sports-official-at-north-carolina-wrestling-match/
ztygs
God if I was related to that man I'd be so fucking embarrassed by this I'd quit the sport instantly. Imagine that being your dad, damn man. Kid ain't got no chance.
cheesedogs
I'd call the cops. If this same shove happened outside the sport it'd be criminal assault, but if its sports you just get kicked out? No way, File charges on him.
Snooj
"I got it in 4K y'all" is the best part.
PlanckEraWasMyBestEra
All I can think is "that poor kid". There is absolutely no way that temper isn't also turned on him.
Spidermonkey969696
Thats terrible behavior from the parent but I love when the other ref is trying to block him with his arms and they end up awkwardly hugging.
KrondorMocker
KrondorMocker
poor kid
andexer
Used to referee soccer ages 16 and under. At the tournaments, the league organizer would station golf carts near the fields to swoop out and pick up the refs as soon as the game was called, to prevent them being mobbed by angry parents. Insanity.
RooGryphon
Just arm the refs with handguns that will definitely solve the ref mobbing issue REAL QUICK
neilwatkinsfromaccounting
when I couldn’t play any more I reffed for a bit. It was awful
wazeewa
That's ridiculous. I get wanting your kid to do well but come on people.
EllenBeeP
My 14 yo refereed U8 boys games. He played since 6 so this was to help out. Just a few a-holes would yell at him, telling him he didn’t know what he was doing, that he shouldn’t be there, that he was blind. He was 14! And doing it for like $10/ game. And the boys on the field were 7, so the point wasn’t to call much, just keep the game going - it’s just little guys running after a ball. The league referees would come to help coach him and end up having to referee the jerks.
Redbum
I reffed mini rugby as a teenager (7-13, split into age and size groups) when I was younger. I would tell both teams before the game that I would stop play for any contact above the armpits in order to help the kids get in the habit of safe tackling. There were always nods all round from the adults, until it was their kids getting whistles against them. I had more than one grown bloody man screaming at me, after their darling son who really wasn't that type of player had to sit down for 5 min
Redbum
Further info, a 5 min sit down was for a yellow card, 2 of them and it's a red which means they can't play anymore that day. So the parents would have wasted a Saturday. This was of course my fault and not the kids or coaches fault for not teaching the kids to tackle safely
certainlynotaserialkiller
They had the same at my kids school but it was to pull parents from the stands and ban them from the property.
masteryoplait
That’s the way to do it. Discourage bad behavior
certainlynotaserialkiller
yeah, there were always a few in a new school year but most caught on pretty fast.
macgerdo
I love how they increase the protection of the referee instead of any other action. Nothing you can do there I guess.
Darkwell
You could give the refs paintball guns loaded with red balls and let them hand out long-distance red cards to parents.
Heavenissize17socks
I think it's a great idea to redcard belligerent parents. Penalty booth., even
KrondorMocker
Spidermonkey969696
You could ban them from the team for a certain amount of time after 3 strikes or one severe one. Sure the kid suffers too, but the kid suffers from their parents yelling behavior too, so I think it would help the kid out in the long run to stop that.
macgerdo
Ban the team and make it public that it's their parents fault.
SpectreA19
It wouldn't. Having grown up in a household like that, the tagine is "The Parent Is *ALWAYS* Right"
zeacorzeppelin10
Having watched the HBO documentary about the parents living vicariously through their children's sports and the one kid doesn't want to do it anymore and his father has a meltdown so severe the camera crew had to call the cops. There are parents who think their kids are the next Mike Piazza or the next LeBron James, or any other sports icon in select sport.
sh17picker69000420
Who???
doctorId
I honest to god can't imagine being that obsessed with a fucking game.
zeacorzeppelin10
https://youtu.be/xh6mcAbYWiE?si=qGn232Swu8XLjdVG&t=32m32s
KrondorMocker
zeacorzeppelin10
Thats inventive
Sayagain
That's a massive run on sentence.
theAught
I love you and respect your take here. In fact it's all correct, but why of all people Mike Piazza. I mean sure MVP and world champ... but.. there are so many more well known guys... help
zeacorzeppelin10
I'm a Met fan, and I went with someone from my generation.
Shaodyn
As Steve Hofstetter put it, "There are two reasons to have kids. Just two. One is that you have so much love in your home and your heart that you need someone to share it with. And that's beautiful. The other is that you failed at what you set out to do in life and you want round two."
Shaodyn
For a lot of people, their kids are just Me 2.0.
dudeloveall
Geez, that doc is 12 yo. Imagine how bad it has gotten since?
Imsickagain
Watched a football kid break his back for the 2nd time at a camp last year - literally crunched into a fieldside bench that was mounted in a weird place.. grandma txts the other moms, he'll be back on the field for the school season. 13 yrs old. Some of them do get full ride offers, but as soon as my kid lost interest, we were so relieved.
zeacorzeppelin10
Worse, I bet. If you got to Cooperstown, NY, there is a baseball diamond complex where all these kids play baseball. There's like at least over 30 diamonds.
mikeatike
I don't need a documentary. Just being a kid in the 90s doing kids sports. Baseball-dads made me not interested in it. But my parents were cool and were like "do what you wanna".
I can't imagine how fucked up sports-parents are today.
zeacorzeppelin10
Spending thousands of dollars on training only to have your son get picked for a low ranking NCAA basketball school team.
mikeatike
Or decide in 10th grade that they hate this bullshit, leading to a lifelong estrangement from a parent if not both. :(
zeacorzeppelin10
Yeah. Football dad, after he caused the huge argument, the son stopped football immediately and cut ties with the father short after.
Imalwaysready
What? Which did was this?
zeacorzeppelin10
State of play: trophy kids.
TheLunaDiviner
I love that you chose Mike Piazza as your 1st example
gluttonygreedpridewrathslothlustenvy
Mike piazza is literally a underdog story. He was the last player taken in the entire baseball draft that year, taken (if I recall correctly...I haven't fact-checked myself) as a favor to an uncle(?...or something?) who was a friend of the team. Then he rose through the tanks and became one of the best hitting catchers to ever play the game.
zeacorzeppelin10
Well, I chose someone from my generation.
lozeldatkm
My dad shat on my dreams like "you aren't going to become famous being a musician or being a wrestler" then forced me to play football like he though my fat awkward ass was going to be an NFL quarterback or something.
zeacorzeppelin10
Yikes.
giantkel
What’s this called? Would love to watch
zeacorzeppelin10
State of of play trophy kids
Spidermonkey969696
I was this child. My mom had me in swimming, by 14 I was competing in Olympic trials but being bullied by my teammates and had no free time for any normal high school stuff, so I hated it. I had 9 2hr practices a week and was chronicly sleep deprived, it was brutal.
Quitting took 2 years of screaming matches, threatening to move out even though I was legally too young, and I spent 6 months being dropped off at practices but leaving until my coach told my mom she can't physically force me to ...
Spidermonkey969696
...attend and that it was dangerous for a 15 year old girl to be wondering around downtown alone at 5 am.
It was all super fucked up and contributed to an anxiety disorder. And it was never for me, but that doesn't stop her from telling me it was all "for my own good" and that I was "too good to quit" to this day.
zeacorzeppelin10
Yikes!
SecretCookies
I'm so sorry. My sister went through that for gymnastics. Was homeschooled since 7 because she practiced 6+ hours a day, 6 days a week, at a private gym. She was on the junior national team heading for the Olympics before having enough. She quit and then just dominated the college level without much effort.
tallyhoho
What's the doc?
Imalwaysready
*up
mikeatike
What's the up.
johnnyhandbags
What's up the doc
ColdestOne
Up the doc
zeacorzeppelin10
State of play trophy kids
FizzleBurger
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DexterDouglas
When does the meltdown occur? I don't really feel like sitting through an hour of kids being abused.
zeacorzeppelin10
32 minutes 32 seconds
0570
Thank you, I'll be sure to favorite and forget this.
zeacorzeppelin10
Its streaming on HBO MAX
iBoulderDash
That was basically me and my dad, sadly. He was none too pleased that his first born son wasn't a jacked sports athlete, but instead a quiet, Autistic nerd. I'm just super thankful that I decided to cut ties with him when I was 8, mostly because he scared me. Far better this way, I think. Hadn't much heard of him since and I'm 36 now.
sangman
Meanwhile I'm a nerd and would probably be similarly annoyed if my son turns out to be a sports jock...
LuminoZero
You're self-aware. I have confidence that you would travel to every game and buy them every piece of equipment they needed in order to support them.
AyatollahBahloni
FestusMA
I have two sons and I can’t imagine losing them for something like this. I love them with my entire being just the way they are. Very different boys and I’m so proud of them both and so grateful they include me in their interests. I am so sorry you don’t have that love. I am sending good Dad vibes to you specifically. I don’t know how the universe works but maybe that matters a little bit somehow. I hope so!
zeacorzeppelin10
I'm sorry to hear that. I'm glad you're doing better.
Cindex1337
The only time you should scare an 8 year old is when they're about to do something extremely dangerous and you need to stop them. That's the only reason I can think of.
THEcableguy
But for the love of God, don't instill fear in them for trying things like skateboarding or something they enjoy. My mother was super extreme hover mom and would pass her fears on to me of hurting myself to the point I'd get anxious when I was completely confident just moments before hearing, "you're going to hurt yourself!"
Spiked
I think it means more like, about to jump off a roof to "fly" or stick a fork in an electrical socket. Skateboarding has risks that can be mitigated through safety gear and encouraging age and skill-level appropriate practice
THEcableguy
For sure. I just wish someone had said, "You can do it, buddy!" instead of, "you're just going to hurt yourself!" once you put the idea in a child's brain that what they're going to do is going to hurt them that's all they think about. At least that was me, anyway. But yes, please don't let your children electrocute themselves!
FloatingOnACloudOfTitties
I'm both sorry you have such a shitty dad, but proud of you to be able to recognize a cancerous person in your life & cut him out at such an early age. It's quite telling he never tried to make amends.
iBoulderDash
Not really. Only heard from him twice; once when I was thirteen and another about 6 years ago when he was having heart problems and needed surgery. He sorta wanted to make amends in the event he died, yet never apologized about anything.
kamenhokage
Your dad sounds like a cunt. That sucks.
Magnar1183
How were you able to cut ties at 8? Were your parents divorced?
iBoulderDash
Yeah. My dad had visitation rights for every other weekend. After a particular event, I said I didn't want to see him anymore. Simply said, I didn't feel loved by him and he was only ever mean to me. He still came by for a while for my sister for a while, but made no effort to even say hi to me. He eventually stopped coming for her with no word. It wasn't until some time later that the reason why is he moved out of state. Real stand-up guy.
Magnar1183
Sounds as great as Bill Burr's dad naming his 1 year-older half-brother, Billy.
ginalynn8942
I’ve seen a woman put her 6 year old in the transfer portal talking about where “am I going to play next”
zeacorzeppelin10
transfer portal?
KaptainObveeus
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ginalynn8942
It’s a thing/app for college and or nfl trades. Some high schoolers use it too I believe
zeacorzeppelin10
Oy! The kids is six right
ginalynn8942
Yep he’s six and she’s acting like he’s going to leave the state to play football for another kindergarten team
htapoicoS
There's so much psychology in it. Low self-esteem, childhood trauma, narcissism.
zeacorzeppelin10
The football father was an absolute monster. The basketball dad was blowing money like it was going out of style on getting his son the expensive basketball training only for the son to get drafted by a low ranking college in the NCAA. Basketball dad would scream until horse that his son was not being used right or everything was a bad call, and the referees told him multiple times to calm down or be thrown out. I don't remember if basketball dad does, but he burns every bridge in town.