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Jan 13, 2015 5:48 PM
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apoohneicie
Puny gods.
hazelwolf
Demigods, guys. Not gods.
chowmaster
I really don't get this.
huanthewolfhound
My favorite Captain America line in all of the movies was "There's only one God, ma'am, and I'm pretty sure he doesn't dress like that."
Chrop
Thor and Loki aren't gods, just powerful guys with powerful weapons who were praised as gods by humans.
NapalmBear
Athiest... Most athi of them all?
marquisdechocula
[Two frame gif intensifies]
RElGNMAN
Met two gods and said to myself, "people considered them gods?"
AshliePalka10
Odin literally says to Loki in Thor: The Dark World "We are not gods! We're born, we live, we die, just as humans do."
KrazyKatLadyStarterKit
Give or take 5000 years...
CountKroeterich
Athiest
actionandrewjackson
Thor likes it Ruffalo.
Frozenaccess
Aside from the "gods" being "aliens" I have to say that it makes since to stay Christian, all "If they exist, so might mine"
Konoton
By Thor standards a punch in the head that sent him flying isn't a shit beating. Maybe when he was mortal and got hit by The Destroyer.
CrabWallet
Yea this bugged me too. If we're keeping score, Thor decked him with the hammer when they squared off. This was just a sucker punch.
mindolluin
Hulk smash
Nickefinfury
Hulk Smash!
WeRequireMoreVespeneGas
I always upvote hulk.
YumYumCumShop
http://m.imgur.com/BYbd4Fl NSFW
randelung
Aren't gods supposed to be almighty? I hereby question the godlyness of both gods in question!
Meloncov
Original Norse Gods weren't almight, nor Greek, Egyptian, ect. God being almighty is mostly an Abrahamic thing.
Nibbletts
Wait wait, I thought they were described as "God-Like beings from another dimension"? They aren't technically Gods.
CrabWallet
I don't think they're rightly conceived of as being from another dimension so much as just from very far away.
TrapsAreIllegal
One could argue that Thor and Loki were worshipped as false Gods, thus still not proving or disproving "the one true God".
CrabWallet
I think the pop culture/sci fi term for this is "Ancient Astronaut"
pinkninjaturtel
They're not gods. Humans thought they were but Oden tells Thor that they aren't gods, that they age and die.
elvosar
You gotta love Tony Stark. And Robert Downey is a perfect actor for Stark. My 2nd favorite superhero.
AnaesthetizedCephalopod
and your favorite?
elvosar
Batman of course:D
mastikhor
Dickbutt
AnaesthetizedCephalopod
he's the hero imgur deserves, but not the one it needs
yourbassist
The movies refer to Thor as a demigod. Not that he is, they just do.
justahumanonline
Really, when? Demigod...so his mother isn't a "god" like his father ? She was pretty bad ass in the dark world and I didn't really see
justahumanonline
why they had to kill her off.
yourbassist
It's a throwaway remark from Tony in the Avengers.
unisasquatch
Oden admits in one of the movies that they aren't gods. He's says the humans think of them as gods.
MetalOcelot
They probably don't think themselves as gods in the same way we don't think we're gods to lesser lifeforms. If some of them could talk...
CrabWallet
He certainly didn't beat the shit out of Thor.
DonaldTrumpsPubicCombover
Did in the comics, don't know if that counts though.
CrabWallet
Given some of the canon arguments I've seen on comic vine, I'm convinced everything and nothing has "happened" in the comics.
DonaldTrumpsPubicCombover
I feel the same way. The comics are an unfollowable shitstorm of random things and events.
ILikeTheFunnyNamesOnImgur
So, Captain America is a henotheist. I never thought I would be able to actually use that word.
MitchLahm
If he were henotheistic he would accept thor and Loki as gods, which he clearly doesn't. Nice try though, +1 for effort
justahumanonline
But he could accept the fact that others once worshipped them as gods...does historical fact count into the idea of henotheism?
EnigmaV8
No.
MitchLahm
The way I understood henotheism is from the Sumerian culture. The other gods were part of their religion, but they focused on their city god
RalinStorm
Hulk is NOT sorry:
thisisanawesomeusername
Is that slime? Like, Nick slime?
erick1293
this http://imgur.com/wn8vIne
raspymorten
Not Save For Spaghetti
ch3burashka
She's still alive, so there's that.
matt7392
Hulk Smashed!
TheMonsterWithinYou
*waits for the gif of hulk fucking a girl raw* >_>
Howtotalk
TheMonsterWithinYou
Yes. That lmao
Silentbunny
Oh my god NSFW that shit
Howtotalk
I-I don't know how.
Silentbunny
Me neither, but thats really not what you want open at work
eagle193
oh, you sweet summer child
nerdextreme
Aren't they technically aliens tho?
ReidingRainbow
Depends who you ask.
DrJoint420
aREN'T ALL GODS ALIENS THOUGH?
RedPorridgeNCream
the Gods? no, because we've had all these stories about them. Now they're only true
Cerinna
Other-dimensionalians?
codenamekadesnextdoor
i thought they were pilgrims...
Diskordea
Wouldnt be the first time humans thought aliens were gods.
ParsleySage
If I name my cat Thor that doesn't make him an actual god. ...mental note, name a cat Thor.
KingDerby
Yes, they were roswell greys.
thecolonels
Jesus was an alien, too. Has no one read the bible?
CrimsonFvcker
Alien AND a zombie! :U
nevergoingtogiveyouupnevergoingtoletyoudown
Meet Thor... the... Guy of Thunder!
colourblindchameleon
Aren't we all?
liamario
To be fair, it's all fiction.
CrimsonFvcker
The idea of god(s) is a human construct, thus, when encountering beings of perceived god-like power, they are named and venerated as such.
kishinlemming
You think "God" isn't alien?
axelasdf
Chan, in the Marvel universe Asgard is tangible, tho.
xzyzzy
alien gods?
SpaceJay7
Both. They are powerful beings, alien, by definition, that less advanced, ethnocentric, humans, perceived as gods, come to protect them.
Eldibs
Ignosticism. It's impossible to have a discussion about gods because nobody can ever agree on a definition for the word "god."
CrimsonFvcker
In great part because every organized religion is mutually-agreed-upon insanity and defies all rational thinking and behavior.
CaptainAmerica24
Odin himself says "we are not gods, we are born, we live, we die"
MrsDolloway
Well so did the fuckin norse gods aswell. I mean, being a god is rather just a point of view
ElmsiGreen
No. Inter-dimensional beings.
WherePoetryComesToDie
Yes.
nation543
alien technically means foreign. to be precise in what they are, they are extra terrestrial.
redsky33
It's hard to say at this point. Marvel did so much fuckerey with norse mythology
PackedCatMeowingPowerDensity
I thought the Bifrost is "at least" a dimension travelling device
ChainsawVisionMan
well now we have to figure out if "alien" refers only to other planets or other dimensions as well.
AnaesthetizedCephalopod
lukalock
Perfect.
justahumanonline
That eyebrow lift....
TheOtherWeirdo
Well, *technically*, all gods, should they exist, would be alien.
DarthFutuza
Unless they were born here. *cough Jesus* *cough*
WriteStuff
Still depends... Are you native to the middle east? If not, than Jesus would still be an alien (just not extraterrestrial)
AyyGusti
And and so are Mexicans. Your point?
icalleddibs
Swedes you fucking racist
hoopyhoop
I guess Mormons would consider them gods. The whole Kolob thing.
DarthFutuza
Kolob is irrelevant to your point, but no not really considering that they aren't perfect. Personality is just as important as the physical.
Cptstarbuckthrace
This is true, people....
MauricioGuaura
So far. I have a feeling Thor 3 will change that and make them full-out gods, though.
ZeppelinRules1969
I hope. I don't like the alien thing.
CptnVan
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clark
cyno01
This is why I'm curious as hell to see what they do with Dr Strange, because he is MAGIC magic...
CptnVan
I think they'll go arcane. With shows like Supernatural and Grimm thriving it's hard to imagine Marvel being afraid of casting a few spells.
justahumanonline
I've never read or really even heard much about Dr. Strange before MCU got popular, but from what I did read online, I
justahumanonline
don't think they'll have any choice BUT to show it as actual magic. Maybe that will be the intro to a more rounded MCU.
Wing126
In comics, they're gods. In movies, they're aliens.
bsmack44
in the comics they are also aliens in the inter dimensional kind of way.
thisisanawesomeusername
No, interdimensional beings that look human
CoolerBetterFasterStronger
Yes and no. Asgard is sort of weird in that its displayed as both sci-fi and fantasy, but yes Thor is the same Thor who was worshiped.
Hugomanen
Marvel Thor have practically no resemblance to mythology Thor. The first movie is basically about him not being christian enough!
MrMcKraut
Wasn't it that the Vikings mistook the asgardians as gods?
CoolerBetterFasterStronger
Not really. All the other Gods in the comics recognize Asgardians as Gods. The films just dont like throwing the G word around.
QueenCousland
Stargate SG-1 also had a Thor who was once worshiped by humans...
justahumanonline
If I remember correctly, that Thor disguised himself though, to look like a viking.
HandsomeSwede
Yes. They're not nearly as cool as Thor and Loki from the actual Norse mythology.
ElmsiGreen
No. Inter-dimensional beings.
MrMcCrunch
You haven't seen rune king Thor then
HandsomeSwede
still not as cool, brah
littlesassilie
Or Stargate.
HowDoIEvenChangeThis
Always upvote marvel bashing! Hate them for the hammer.
gamblingpoet
What hammer what
HowDoIEvenChangeThis
Do a google pic search for "mjölnir" and you should see what I'm talking about. It's not even remotely close to the norse mythology one(1/2)
HowDoIEvenChangeThis
wich I find annoying and disturbing. Marvels Thor is like the "Charlie" paintings in my comparision.. I won't kill anyone over it tho... ?
batmanforpresident
Amen, min söta bror.
DarkCrawler901
In the actual mythology Loki is Odin's BLOOD BROTHER. Neither said why or how which somehow makes it even more badass.
daxx0r
I agree with you, fellow swede :D
Icantbebothered
Howdy neighbor. I'm right across the border. :D
ChrisCostasBeard
Swedes for the win!
Andrizzle0159
Idk Thor died in a pretty dumb way
OrbitalDuck
Thor isn't dead. When Thor dies he will kill Jörmungandr and bring on the Ragnarök. So Thor dead=End of all times. Kinda
WhoTheFuckisGavin
I thought Ragnarok started when the sons of Fenrir finally ate the moon and sun? Also Ragnarok was the start of "mankind" without the gods.
votress
Yea Odin specifically said "we are not gods"
goodguyC
Just re-watched Thor: The Dark World, and you sir are correct! But Loki does imply they live for more than 5000 years, which is a shit ton!
qtRaven
Religious pandering to be non offensive.
Thekingofbeans
Or just that they're aliens... Which is the point.
KitsunesFire
Well, they werent aliens in the comics, they were actual gods. So that point is, ironically, pointless.
Thekingofbeans
It's called creative liberty. They're allowed to modify the canon in a reboot.
redsky33
Well, he was talking about the immortality aspect of it. Aesir (Norse "Gods") were mortal. In fact, the death of a god named Baldr 1/
votress
good call, good call
redsky33
Is the first sign of Ragnarok. I think they are as much gods in marvel as they were to the norse.
CountVorkosigan
Well duh, they live in the greater galactic community. Remember Guardians of the Galaxy with the space station in the skull? That was a god.
MrsDolloway
Well.. It was not a god. More like a ancient space diety.. So basicly powerful old space robots
CountVorkosigan
Calling it a space deity doesn't particularly help your "not a god" case.
MrsDolloway
Yeeeh ik.. Just didnt come up with the right words. But they talk about em in the movie being just powerfull titans and stuff so
ForTheLoveOfOne
Have no other Gods before me. Implies there are others, i'm ok with this.
DorthLous
I see it as a story. He was the first God. He went to war with the other gods (was a bit of a dick). Is the last and only God (mellowed.)
robdrimmie
Theologists see it as a blend. El was the first god, Yahweh a brash upstart. E.g.: http://www.reasonablefaith.org/jewish-beliefs-about-god
theusersub
We can personally make something a god (lower case) to serve. Some people worship money. Some people worship their own lust.
ShakeDog
I always thought that was stretching the definition of a god to mean anything you're obsessed with. Supposedly, it's also love, everything..
SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE
Ever read American Gods? There's the Goddess Television. Very powerful in terms of daily worshipers.
SameBatTime
Implies people shouldn't believe in other gods. For example, you cannot believe in Jupiter, Neptune, Money, etc.
SameBatTime
Having multiple Gods made it easier for Romans to accept the new religion.
ForTheLoveOfOne
Seems like he would say something like 'I am the only God' or somesuch.
CrabWallet
It certainly doesn't imply that. It implies only that the speaker believes some among the intended audience might believe there are others.
ForTheLoveOfOne
Seems like he would say something like 'I am the only God' or somesuch.
CrabWallet
That's not how implication works, but I appreciate you not being a dick just because we disagree. It makes you like an internet unicorn.
ForTheLoveOfOne
Behold my shiny sparkly horn.
varrdak
Also in the old testament, Egyptian priests had power... they conjured snakes, performed signs etc. From their Gods.. It was just that 1/
varrdak
The old testament claimes that God is the power above all others.
theusersub
no one is going to believe this, but when I was doing missions in africa, we would see healings every day.there were witch doctors all 1/2
theusersub
over that would also heal people, but they would charge. we wouldn't charge them anything to just pray for Jesus to heal them
insearchoftheperfectusername
what kind of healings, if you don't mind my asking?
theusersub
prayed for a kid the first day and saw him healed of malaria. the locals showed no surprise. ask me anything! messages would be easier
varrdak
I once watched a girl's stunted leg become straight and grow about three inches. in a matter of minutes.
varrdak
I totally believe it. I've seen healing miracles, impossible feats, and outright terrifying things from both christian and other sources.
HereticsAllOfYou
The Old Testament does not claim other gods don't exist, just that they are not true gods in the sense Adonai is (i.e. Not the Creator).
DarthFutuza
there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) But to us there is but one God -Paul
placeholder0000
i thought stuff from the old testment doesn't count anymore? Or was that just the "bad parts"? i seriously don't know
HereticsAllOfYou
Context. It's all about context. Old Testament was a covenant with the Nation/Kingdom of Israel while the New Covenant is for everyone.
Cushionhead
well... It depends on what ya think. Some people say ALL of it is still in effect. Some say none due to Jesus. While others pick and 1/2
Cushionhead
choose which parts. Personally I believe some of it was just [eat pork>get sick] [sodomize>get sick], not morality, just medical. 2/3
Cushionhead
Really, it's just what you interpret it as.
iwearabunnysuitthecleanroomkindnottheplayboykind
Many believers feel that you can't understand the NT (the fulfillment of The Law) without understanding the OT (The Law).
TanstaaflTovarisch
The bible (old testament) specifically states that there are multitudes of others.
saralas
Then again, depending on versions, you might also find dragons and unicorns and giants, etc
NotSoSmartAlek
Giants, yes. Goliath and his kin. And there's at least one Dragon, in Revelations.
saralas
Numbers 23:22 “God brought them out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn.”
HereticsAllOfYou
Yep, and in the middle ages monks came up with a lot of crazy explanations for that; some of which would make fanfiction writers blush.
tone0508
Why am I the only one here who doesn't know about this!?
Marxthird
Because the Bible specifically states that these other "gods" are lifeless idols of wood and stone.
DarthFutuza
Paul backs it up too, "there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)" -1 Cor 8:5-6
Marxthird
You lie. Stop it, seriously. The Bible specifically says that any other "gods" are lifeless idols of wood and stone.
TanstaaflTovarisch
That's one interpretation. Another is that it merely states they're as powerless before their god as wood and stone, but still real.
FlamedLion
It also talks about them as lifeless wooden/stone idles that could not do anything.
TanstaaflTovarisch
It depends on interpretation. Quite a few believe it's just saying that they're real but powerless before their god, others interpret as (1)
TanstaaflTovarisch
you did and think it just calls them fake. (2/2)
TanstaaflTovarisch
There are other references though, I'll list a few for you in the replies to this comment.
TanstaaflTovarisch
Pay attention to all that I have said to you, and make no mention of the names of other gods, nor let it be heard on your lips Exodus 23:13
TanstaaflTovarisch
You shall not go after other gods, the gods of the peoples who are around you. Deuteronomy 6:14
FlamedLion
You don't have to, I'll read up on it, but you can if you want.