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HeywouldJablowme
Nothing in this world gets done without drugs or alcohol.
UtahGimm3Tw0
His nonfiction book ‘On Writing’ is actually worth a read even if you have no interest in being an author yourself
GRZMNKY
The YouTuber isn't wrong... It was a habit...
Tuboshi
"Um als Künstler was zu taugen, darfst du nicht komplett im Arsch sein. Aber Blickkontakt zum Abgrund muss schon da sein." Bad translation: "To be a good artist, you can't be completely messed up. But you need to maintain eye contact with the abyss."
Mozyzgiraffe
Afaik he had submitted a book to his editor, totally forgot he had done so and contacted his editor with a first draft of a new book... Only to be told he'd already written that book!
bitemark
Neil Gaiman has said that writing daily is a good habit, on top of other things. Even if it's not much, or just garbage. He's also said he wrote Coraline at 50 words per day.
KittyKlimt6
Don't you take their myth of meritocracy from them!
SquiggleSquaggleSqwoo
There are two kinds of Stephen King books. A. books written by cocaine that he co-authored. And B. Novellas about prison he wrote to convince himself to stop doing cocaine.
pareidoliaperson
22 year old youtuber just finished reading a selfhelp book: I like to share my life experience with you.
senseicombs
So you're saying cocaine is a good motivator.
dashriproc1
I took the discipline approach (I grew up with an Asian tiger mom) and wrote everyday even if uninspired. Took the laptop to Festival de San Fermin (Running of the Bulls), Kenyan safari, Kilimanjaro climb, west coast of Ireland.... The annoying part was everyone asking what I'm working on. A book. I'm trying to write a book. Please leave me alone.
prettydumb
lol its pretty apparenty
StanDelone
Apa
ToSisPoS
I do love Clickbait “did you know” moving picture entertainment vignettes.
FrogBotherer
Stephen King's massive philtrum is his cocaine scoop. He's like a platypus, but for cocaine.
AThreeFootTallChocolateMooseWithFudgeEyes
a coke-filled platypus?
RevRagnarok
Cokey!? Cokey the Platypus!?
299796
Both are true
Justplainhank
Can we get G.R.R. Martin some cocaine please? Maybe throw a sprinkle at Patrick Rothfuss.
necessity
I think we have ample enough proof at this point that writing and drugs compliment each other.
DurendaI
Well, he SHOULD have been on something when he wrote the last few Dark Tower books, SMH.
drinkthederpentine
This!!!!
IWasGoingToMakeEspresso
Didn’t he also develop an opioid addiction after being hit by a car?
BipedalHumanoidWithSlightlyDifferentNoseRidge
PlaceHolderTitle
Someone get George R R Martin some cocaine then!
spyhermit
at his age and weight that might kill him, or we might get the book. hmmm.
PlaceHolderTitle
So same odds of getting the last two books if we don’t give him any. What have we got to lose?
spyhermit
A.. principled stand against drugs?
PlaceHolderTitle
Technically true however it could be argued books are just as addicting and so many of us have lost that fight to addiction long ago and need our fix.
DistractedBoyfriendIsAmerica
How to be a writer: Do it every day.
And by "it" I mean cocaine.
OldmanSerious
No. King explicitly says that the idea that creativity needs drugs is wrong. If anything, he thinks that his earlier, under the influence books may have been better if he wasn't wasted.
BakingMaybes
He's written another like 50 books since getting sober so maybe habit is a part of it after all
ManByTechnicality
In Stephen King's book "On Writing" he describes his process of sitting down and dedicating time to writing every day. And IMHO, if the drugs helped him write he would still be doing them.
tailoredefehse1
I found that book absolutely uplifting and motivating, and has helped me so much over the years 🙂
ManByTechnicality
Same, I am not a writer, nor do I have any desire to be one. But there are a lot of lessons to be learned about learning a craft and pushing through adversity.
Zaruzen
Im sorry but is this true?
tarataqa
No one knows...
Kbantar
He wasn't sober when he wrote that child gangbang in It.
PedroBenecol
he was high as a kite.
lljkstonefish
High as giraffe pussy
ManByTechnicality
Technically yes, but actually no. King, like many artists, did drugs at some point. At King has said in his early career he felt like he couldn't write without being under the influence. But the key take away is that both before and after sobriety, he set time aside almost every day to write. So like the drugs didn't make him a prolific writer, dedicating time to becoming better at writing made him a better writer.
dlshark
This is very well said and needs more upvotes
trhopkins
That Explains the Dark Towers.
MechKelly
I thought that was heroin which put him in such a horrifying mindset.
awesmond
He was hit by a car between writing the Dark Tower books and it really interfered with his ability to write.
MrOne2
I read all the books, it was like addiction to torture.
wiltsjunk
Only the first book.
vincentleeprice
Explains that awkward part in IT
redsmerf
I think most of that was written after he got off drugs?
NorthmanoftheNorth
That Explains the Dark Towers.
sixhoursinacarwithmymotherinlaw
It was. Post being hit by a van.
Forensickle
Not possible... It took him 30 years to write. It also got weird when he was definitely sober. But the weird thing happening at the 75% mark applies to the vast majority of his bibliography. I always figured a side effect of his prolific writing was not being great at endings
Forensickle
I remember reading an interview in the late 90s where a dying fan had written him desperate to find out how it would end. He called her to apologise and say that he honestly had no idea what was going to happen
DurendaI
Before, during, AND after.
suretoast
It was better before, maybe even during, but after? Shoooooo
SlyMrFox
"I can't think of anything better than inserting cameos from my other works and an ending that hints at something I'll probably never finish." - King, probably.
bmouse127001
Which ending? The (second?) end of dark tower ends amazingly well, and I usually have to start the series over again. It flows perfectly into "The man in black fled across the desert, and the gunslinger followed."
CarVersus
You forgot the part where it becomes a self-insert with himself as both the worst and most important human in the galaxy.
MrHappySmiles
Does he remember the Langoliers? Does anyone? Does that book exist?
AgamemnonsMemes
Maybe... maybe not.
Colanah
I recall the book. It was terrifying and the TV movie was wild!
NotTinyPancakes
i mention refs from it from time to time and get confused looks from most people (usallyif im discussign planes)
redsmerf
It does. I own a copy
Dagordae
No. The short story does though.
Etrigan77
short story from ten past midnight isnt it? I remember it... its a good one. see also Nolans Cadillac
Thefsm
That was my favourite of his novellas.
Tjitso
The book isn't too bad. The tv adaptation however...
stoots24
They should redo it now with modern CGI. It was a made-for-tv movie
Tjitso
I remember seeing it as a 4-episode series
PedroBenecol
if it's even as half as "w00t" as the tv-movie rendition: gotta read! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EifR0fVjn_U
awildsforzemon
The book is great. The show… not so much.
IamIntoleranceIntolerant
Funny thing about that story - it's actually the only one I remember from the 4 Minutes To Midnight compilation.
RenaissanceFaireMan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Past_Midnight
badpuppeh81
Sundog is my favorite from there.
mikeatike
It's 4 past, not 4 till. 4 till midnight is the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists. Tho it's 90 seconds now since they changed it to be a "here's how shitty the world is" clock instead of "midnight is nuclear war" clock.
https://thebulletin.org/doomsday-clock/
JTechnopotheosis
Same. I remember reading it in jr highschool, but don't remember if i read any of the other stories in the book.
FellaWithUmbrella
I wish they ate my memory about that horrible tv-movie.
akelamishari
Oh c’mon it was great as far as B movies go!!!
illtrytocomeupwithsomethingwittylater
I think it was kind of cool :)
YourPalFriendpatine
No way! I was just thinking about that movie and how much fun it is.
ExquisiteConundrum
It is so bad it's amazing and a huge favourite of mine. I will always watch that terrible train wreck with a bag of popcorn and a glass of malbec. I fucking love that movie.
MrHappySmiles
Same, it’s etched into my memory…
Badgerbadgerson3
SCARING THE LITTLE GIRL!!
evilgendo
Oh cousin Larry... Don be ridiculous...
IloveHockey
aaahh i miss when nostalgia critic (and avgn) werent awful
RenaissanceFaireMan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Past_Midnight
astrangehop
Huh, I don't even recall reading the sun dog
SykaDelic
Im reading this right now!! On the 3rd story
rbudrick
It was a great short story, but the tv adaptation was insanely awful. Mostly for the ending with the graphics for the baddies being terrible even for the time it came out. Ruined the whole show.
DwightLikesManMeat
I reference the awful langoliers much too often. Worst cgi ever.
MrHappySmiles
I only see the movie.. how was his writing about that ending?
rbudrick
In the original story the langoliers were absolutely terrifyingly described. Eaters of reality itself.
rbudrick
Writing in original, was quite good. Do not watch the old tv series first. It will ruin it. Like, the show was ok, but the ending omfgggggg awful.
Aksuuuh
Do you gotta be on coke to read it?
RuffyRuffHausen
Some of them makes it a better experience, sure
Pimpsmurf
It couldn't hurt.
EndlingGer
I think there’s some beauty to the idea that you have to be tripping in the right way to get in sync with the author and fully understand the book.
orangatuan
Does this mean I need drugs to listen to Pink Floyd?
lljkstonefish
No, but don't let me stop you.
harmlesspotato
Or just find the title, it sits in a shelf but only seen when tripping
pumpkinpiepatch
There's music made for "K" hole-ing. It makes no sense sober. But it's a story on the right drug. Argamon is the artist and he is, an artist. He spent 10 years ony favorite trip song. I don't trip anymore but I want to for the song.
akelamishari
How would one go about obtaining more information?
pumpkinpiepatch
https://youtu.be/7GgzLYqnEdY?si=N_D6-SWbUiL9VJgb
pumpkinpiepatch
Also please make sure you're in a safe place as "k hole-ing" is essentially tranquilizing yourself.
sumthinsumthinsumthin
"King struggled with addiction throughout the decade and often wrote under the influence of cocaine and alcohol; he says he "barely remembers writing" Cujo." -Wikipedia
RacecarIsRacecarBackwards
Having read "Lisey's Story", I must say I'm not surprised at all.
SleepyKitten
Oh, that explains a lot about Cujo. It was so messed up emotionally!
pomax
Of all the stories, not remembering cujo is 100% on brand. If he did, he'd be dead by now.
neo154
So Cocaine Bear is also from him
ExTechOp
Not entirely unheard of in literary circles:
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? (1968). […] According to a 1975 interview in Rolling Stone, Dick wrote all of his books published before 1970 while on amphetamines. "A Scanner Darkly (1977) was the first complete novel I had written without speed", said Dick in the interview.
— https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_K._Dick
WhyDontYouMakeMe
Probably doesn't remember directing Maximum Overdrive either
https://youtu.be/pwYcnnbiRB4?si=FNngtwpEAfKPTuld
Sasurau
That Scene in It had to be written after he personally funded a solid golf toilet for Pablo Escobar.
jayman0123
Cujo sold a TON of copies back in the 80s and spawned a 21 million dollar movie. Can you imagine just getting drunk/high one day, waking up like 2-3 days later and having a books worth a million dollars sitting next to you that you pretty much don't remember writing.
Syovere
Isn't that the story behind Under Pressure? Song, not book, but same idea.
Totallyscrewedinaustin
Really? Who wrote it, Bowie or Freddie? Or was it both, on a bender?
Syovere
My understanding of the story was that both got absolutely shitfaced together.
Totallyscrewedinaustin
That sounds fun!
spiceass9000
Alcohol really gets the creative juices flowing and the cocaine keeps you awake and focused enough to write. Makes sense
L4dead2
That’s why when I cook or clean, I drink while doing it. Helps relax and motivate me
GuyWithDog
So, you're saying I should selfmedicate instead of getting an ADHD diagnosis and Adderall? I just want to be functional again
baals
Maybe
Anarchduke
Your doctor will prescribe you adderall? I've tried repeatedly with different doctors, and the one time i got a prescription, it was because the doctor was retiring next month and didn't care.
tentacularfleshscape
I had no issues really in fact my doctor overprescribes me to the point I have a whole extra full bottle
GuyWithDog
I have neither a diagnosis nor the meds, sorry
PlanckEraWasMyBestEra
Ask about Vyvanse. Similar medication but less intense and has a generic on the market now
SciencePetsComputers
Vyvanse is great because it circumvents many addiction forming habits. It's onset is delayed by a hour, because the lower gut is what converts it into amphetamines, and it's dosing is once a day. The lower gut absorbing it also means stomach acidity doesn't affect absorption like it does Adderall. Frequent dosing and rapid onset are 2 risk factors in addiction.
tidepool
I can’t be on stimulants so I take stratera and I don’t daydream while driving anymore. That’s all I’ve got.
TI99Kitty
Or "The Tommyknockers."
Jakesonyou
I don’t think I’ll come out tonight…..
thomerow
Man, that book is a wild ride.
Megadestructo
A disturbing and interesting concept completely ruined. I was on vacation with no internet/phone signal and that was the only book a brought because it's wicked long so I read it but mostly regretted it.
meatshake001
You can really tell in "The Tommyknockers". Tons logical errors and the whole "Argle Bargle" incident which just seems like something that happened to King.
INeedMoreGifMeMoreJustOneMore
I should read that book again. I read it first as a way too young teenager and it was DISTURBING
Yepitsme2718
The scene in the garage when he finds the people and the dog all hooked up. Horrifying.
randalldeflagg
Gave me nightmares for a week as a kid
HandoB4Javert
That was / is a disturbing book.
backitupthunder
Was that the one with the butt aliens or the one with the airport stuck out of time?
Pace171921
That's langoliers. And Bronson pinchot scared that crap out of with his acting.
amb1021
The butt aliens one was Dreamcatcher.
TI99Kitty
It's the one with the UFO that made people make complicated sci-fi gadgets that ran on D-cell batteries.
backitupthunder
Oooooh ok I do remember that one.
Feralkyn
Which is wild, as Cujo's imo one of his most... hm, realistic? I guess, books. Until the vague supernatural stuff later on it's absolutely one of the most *possible* and horrific horrors that he's written.
Sasurau
I don't often view a writer through the lense of their life, I think, especially a storyteller like King, that it's pretentious as fuck. But Dark Half, Cujo, Misery, his whole addiction stretch bibliography gets way fucking scarier when you realize he had a raging drug addiction that was absolutely consuming his life.
Feralkyn
I never even thought of that.
bound4doom
His latest book, "You Like It Darker" has some follow up to Cujo. Some other tie ins to his other books as he typically does as well. Just a FYI, it was it's own story but still the Father of the boy from Cujo, many years later actually over COVID times.
Feralkyn
Oh fuck I need to find this. What a sick-ass sounding title, too!
akelamishari
Theres a new book?! Im still not done with the one with the boy and the dog down a staircase to another world!
bound4doom
"Fairy Tail" is an excellent book. However, bad news "Holly" came out between "Fairy Tail" and the new one "You Like It Darker". Holly is Book 3 of the Holly Gibney series, or book 6 of the Mr Mercedes series if you look at it like that as it is now Holly, 3 books, taking over Bill's, 3 books, business.
The new book is a compilation of "shorter" as a relative term for King stories, all new though and just finishing it up I am on the last story.
Feralkyn
Wait so do I need to like... go back and start somewhere else to avoid spoiling things if I want to read You Like It Darker?
akelamishari
I have had trouble getting on board the Mercedes series, but i enjoyed the Outsider, might retry starting it again. Cheated and bought Darker right after I read your comment and started it right away. I might read tonight instead of Usersub! TYVM!
transirebenefaciendo
What weirds me out is, all these Youtubers who talk about "the secret sauce to productivity" are just dressing up corny old 19th-century ideas in new words. Like…really, guys? We already TRIED the Protestant work ethic and the Horatio Alger hustle culture and the prosperity gospel. And we found pretty conclusively they don't work and are psychologically disastrous. What is this, some unholy blend of the 19th century and the 1950s?
3Davideo
Yes.
guspet
> And we found pretty conclusively they don't work and are psychologically disastrous.
Whoa - I'd like to learn more about this. Can you tell me more or share a link?
anarchoFeline
humanity has never once learned a single lesson
cuddleskunk
Have you seen the types of politics that so many people have been pushing in recent years with respect to gender, race, and sexuality? Yes...they are actually pushing for a hybrid between the 19th century and the 1950s. They want white, hetero couples only, the women in house dresses raising five kids without being able to sign their own contracts. They want people to either die or be forced to live a lie if they don't match their corrupted "ideals".
ThrowAwayAcct0000
Capitalism is a downward spiral.
TheMomaw
One of the most consistently profitable ways to make money is convincing other people that you can sell them the secret to making money.
cheesedogs
Productivity has different meanings in different jobs. There's not going to be ONE secret to cover it all.
Snailzone1
Yeah prospectors didnt really profit as much as those who sold the equipment shovels, gold pans etc.
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Yep, prospecting was basically a lottery. Some had massive wins, most lost money. And the real winners are those who sell tickets, run casinos, or in this case as you say, sell the equipment.
ICutRocksOnYoutube
So, as a youtuber, basically the problem is that these are subjects that get views. People tune in to see if it's anything different this time. Another bad one, specifically for up and coming youtubers, is the thousands of "how to get big on youtube" videos that are just repackaged versions of the exact same thing. About 80% of VidIQ's content is variations on like 3 pieces of advice. Actually coming up with good OC that's not oversaturated is /difficult/.
stevencloser
Also see every "self help" guru.
ICutRocksOnYoutube
There's a few basic psychological tricks you can use that work on the vast majority of the population that you can use for getting clicks. The one that I hate is how you need to have a visual change about every 1.1 seconds. This is why I and others put the quick subtitles on shorts. It's short attention span theater. Along those lines, this is why you'll see individual scenes from TV shows, but with quick zooms and pans edited in. Youtube is just the worst video game ever, from the creator side.
TheGammaRae
I'm a geoscientist and your user name intrigues me greatly. I would very much enjoy watching rocks get cut open. What is your channel name? I'm sorry being a content creator in this attention economy is so rough. I want to make a channel for all of my crochet and knitting creations but I just don't see the point when there are so many of those kinds of channels already.
ICutRocksOnYoutube
Awesome! It's "I CUT ROCKS". There's a link for it on my imgur profile page. I used to upload a lot of my shorts here, but Imgur geeks out when they're 59 seconds long, and most of mine are these days, plus I'm leaning more into the long form videos. See you there!
TheGammaRae
I forget profiles exist on here, thank you so much for taking the time to reply! Your videos are so fun!
gemaeuer
How is the so called protestant work ethic "psychologically disastrous"?
necroticon
Look at any Protestant!
gemaeuer
On the one hand, protestant work ethics (which is rather of catholic origin) is quite disconnected from the actual christian faith, and on the other hand, I know lots of protestants which are no psychological wrecks.
slowshootinpete
Valuing productivity isn't inherently destructive or anything, but when you place someone in conditions where they're required to work long hours to keep their head above water because rent and food are too expensive and then tell them they just need to work harder, they're suffering so much because they're lazy and not because the system they live in is crushing them to death, that is disastrous to people's mental health.
gemaeuer
No doubt about that. But the original statement in its exaggeration and simplification is just nonsense.
slowshootinpete
In the context of most of modern industrial society, it's generally true though.