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Just before Christmas we all got saying that the company was doing amazing and we were all getting a 5% raise and a 5% bonus that would be paid at the end of January.
I was really excited it would tip me over into having extra each month and not having to juggle bills.
Well apparently because I got a promotion to lead a new department from scratch I didn't qualify for the raise and because I changed departments my bonus had to be recalculated and I hadn't been in the role long enough to qualify.
I am dealing with million dollar clients, helping to bring in our primary income and I get screwed over.
Angyliqueone
That’s bullshit
EmeraldLight
Our union forced our employer to backpay us for the inflation increase in our agreement. We have a feeling that, since our agreement ran out on Dec 31 and they're in negotiations, they won't give us a raise this year. But considering we have to strike for a 7% raise spread over 3 years, it's not surprising. 2024 is going to be wild, me thinks
CitizenPrime
Your manager fucked you on this (either intentionally or not). I was in a similar situation but my manager told me to wait after the bonuses are paid. She was awesome!!!
rockhydra
Do 5% less work and leave 5% early every day.
lackadaisycull
Corporations strike again
Bystandr
Well any rocking the boat would jeopradize your job but if its breaking you, talk to the boss before leaving and point it out?
Whointhewhaaaa
Hope you weren't thinking about putting in a pool...
https://youtu.be/1SXB1hvxnzw?si=VMVzKNjAzrbvmpSk
APassingPlasticBag
Did the promotion not come with a raise? The bonus sucks though, if you have any of those promises in writing you should address the promises made at least the bonus
Mostlydeadpool
"well, if you're going to stiff me on a 5% raise, I'm pretty sure this is where my above and beyond just stops."
PobbitBreakers
i would just stop wearing pants at the office until my demands are met
NoFuxToGive
I got promised a raise and a promotion, then the company laid off everyone and moved to Mexico.
Blabulus
Theres always a reason why the workers hget nothing and the CEO gets everything.
billyrayvirus
I turned down a promotion when my company tried to pull this. I was the only one qualified to fill the position.
"We would have to get the VP to approve an exception for you."
"Ok, do that."
They magically found the money.
brokenfuture
Bad management. Bad communication. I promoted a direct a report. Their base would go up ~15k. However we get minor raises yearly. I talked with my direct report and explained I can give them the full 15k right out the door or reduce it by a little so they get a raise 3 months after the promotion with everyone else. It wasn’t in the budget to do both 15k + raise. For clarity, my position isn’t high enough to control the budget. Management should have collaborated with you. I’m sorry :(
AeonQuasars
Time to look for a new job
pastaholic74
Ah, the ol' "promote them so they don't qualify for a raise or bonus" ploy. Straight out of the late stage capitalism playbook
NCPilot
ALWAYS get these promises from your bosses and/or company in writing, make them spell EVERYTHING out so there's no ambiguity later that they can use to weasel out of the deal later.
Crambodian
Most places have a clause in their offers (unless you specifically counter offer and request as such) that any raises and bonuses are “non-contractual”.
jaydude22
Unluckily I learned that the hard way. Luckily I learned it young.
steve1378
I got f'd like that too. They killed 25% of my bonus because the company didn't hit all its metrics. We only made 1.2B last quarter instead of the 1.4B that was projected.
CitizenPrime
Won't someone think of the shareholders?!?
steve1378
Of course, our CEO still retained her 42 MILLION in stock. Their salary is 500k and clearly not enough.
MrHappySmiles
Work on burning it all when you separate.. leave them as screwed as you can…
thetinymonarch
Sadly can't do that for a while, I am technically under qualified for my position. But because I literally wrote the guide book in my new departments protocols I'm the only one qualified to do this job. It's a sort of mutual success of destruction
BlastyMcBlastblast
time to slow down a little, use up all your holiday & sick days, and start looking for another job XD
olivertheoctopus
CanIGetSomeExtraSalt
well go in your bosses office and demand it or don't and just deal with it
leonpic
True xD
sst05665
I was going to share how my employer did the same to me, but I see other comments already have. What a fucked system.
cousteau
The perfect time for job hunting is when you have a job.
DeadOnionSaysWhat
Yep, no 1 year anniv raise, no cost of living raise, nothing, even tho they're so impressed w/ me they promoted me to team leader. It's been decided raises will come this summer. Psh, handed in my resig.
RockKickass
The raise I could see (still shitty though) but not getting the bonus is bullshit. Accountants should be able to figure out the math here
DustyMcKnuckles
My paperwork for a $4 raise was signed last August by me, my manager, and his boss. And then it was supposedly stuck in HR for processing. Mid Jan I get told that my advance was approved. For next March. No back pay. "Youre not ready for the responsibility yet. But keep doing everything anyway like you have been since early 2023."
My new job starts on the 12th -at- the same rate I would get in March. I feel you OP, dont let them take advantage of you!
CitizenPrime
4$ (an hour) raise?
DustyMcKnuckles
Yeah. I was letting myself get taken advantage of cuz I didnt do enough market research to figure out how competitive this place isnt. The regional lead tech flew in and was like "I know youre already doing all this senior tech stuff on your own, but youre getting paid 3 levels below that? Lets do the evals right now and submit the paperwork to make sure you get yours."
7 months later, I flipped shit and they finally gave it to me Jan 1st, but said I -can not- advantage any further til 2026.
EMHPicardo
Bertisintrouble
If you've got a contract, get a lawyer
ifitrains
In another comment @op mentioned they are from the UK. If you were promised in writing a raise and bonus it doesn't matter that your position changed. Legally they still have to give you the raise and bonus. I'd say fight this but you are being criminally underpaid. It's time to find a new job mate.
RayIsPrettyOkay
DirigoTuSequere
NeverDownvoteMelBrooks
Kyen155
LiarLiarPantsUntier
xmaneds
if this were 2004 we would suggest that you look for a new job, but that request has become impossible in the last few years
eeps
Well, you can still look. But definitely don't quit the current one until you have the signed contract for a new job.
MadamPuddifoot
I'm in that situation right now. I got an offer after a third phone interview (nationwide company), but until I sign a fucking form, I'm not telling my current shithole position with my current dipshit boss. I can't wait to not have a micromanaging dipshit to report to.
QuintinParry
We have record unemployment according to the numbers...
TheJuiceLoosener
Facts schmacts
Illmakemyownusernamewithblackjackandhookers
We also keep adding new jobs to the market, so while people keep saying that is because they don't count people who aren't looking that doesn't mesh currently. It's a good market overall, will vary with place and what specific jobs you want. Not as good as it was a year or two ago, but there are openings in every department where I work and in similar jobs through the city.
ServerMonkeyKing
Unemployment is calculated weird and doesn't follow normal logic. People who give up on trying to find a job are removed from the unemployment numbers. It's like cherry picking your statistical data.
speedislife
There are several measures of unemployment. The people who give up looking are hard to track compared to people who are receiving welfare payments or have started that process. https://www.bls.gov/lau/stalt.htm
sambaah05
What raise did you get with your promotion?
thetinymonarch
21k to 24k. It was a 100 increase on my monthly wage.
MioTaalas
Fuck that! I was an AV service TECHNICIAN and earned 38k€/year... And Euro IS more than a dollar.
GoldblumNoises
38k€ is ~$41k, 1€ = $1.08
Sensiblyinteresting
24k a year? Jesus... The gas station next to my house pays 32k a year...
elvianempire
You should research what people in similar positions make.
azmariaBaroness
My daughter makes more than that working part time at Dollar General. Flip that job.
AwwWrecker
I make that in GBP, and I still know I'm being underpaid!
maststick
A bonus is paid on past work achievements. I would politely and respectfully request that they give you an indexed bonus based on the amount of time you were in the previous role
iLikeRainyDays
24k? Wouldn't get out of bed for that in £s. Million dollar clients... I work with monkies and make almost double that
spookyactionatadistance
First I'm happy for you, more money is always good but also 24k is far under minimum wage where I live. Even accounting for the exchange rate you would be under the minimum amount to pay taxes, you would also get tons of benefits. Our pandemic relief was 2k / month. I know of 0 jobs where you are in charge of business clients where the minimum asked would be under 40k
Geistbar
Assuming 40 hours/week that's ~$11.50/hour. My state's min wage isn't any higher than federal minimum wage and the typical grocery store job pays better than this.
You can earn better while still avoiding physical work. Try looking around to see what else exists in your field. If you're handling million dollar clients there's going to be some amount of your industry around. Look for openings elsewhere. You're worth more than you're getting. Good luck!
any5
Omg ha ha I read that fast and thought you meant that the wage increased by 24k (more than your previous wage); I thought that wasn’t too bad… ummm I think you need a new job
Grinch01
Were this promised after the Promotion? If not you got a higher raise, no bonus sucks but the 5% bonus plus the raise would be less what you get now, you work part times i would guess
Kinnaq
What country? Because if this is murica, the local mcdonalds in Alaska is paying around 35k.
ElbowDeepInYou
What kinda hours do you put in?
C0baltBlue
Then you got a 14% increase, which still isn't bad considering you're skipping a pay increase. I just got a promotion & department change at my place and negotiated a 14% raise to account for missing an annual pay increase. Bullshit that you're not getting a bonus though, that should be pro-rata on the old role.
Anarchduke
If that isn't 24k per month, get the fuck out of there.
sowhat4
You remember this whenever you are tempted to go the extra mile in providing customer service. Don't give in to temptation. Give the bosses exactly what they are paying for.
Sylphyyy
dude I'm a CSR and I make $10k more than you, quit this shithole ASAP
Mr21782Man
Gotta ask the obvious question, what unit of currency are we talking about here. In the US this works to around $12/hour. I can't think of any place I worked, including shitty center, where anyone in management made that little. This would make sense in a couple of places in the EU but then the prices for stuff are different too.
Onlyhereforthelaughs
Dude. Even at my LOWEST pay of pushing carts at Costco, part time, I made 24k a year. Now years later at full time I make 56k and I'm still pushing carts at Costco. Fucking RUN.
DontTazeMeBrah
Costco hires part time? They have a nice 401k match and benefits if I remember correctly
ImAGrower
My local Costco only start every hire as part time and you have to earn full time position, which isn't hard really.
Onlyhereforthelaughs
I was part time for the majority of my time. They kept offering full time but I liked my free time. But full time is definitely better as raises are based purely on hours worked, so you top out faster the more you work.
NSFWfrontpage2
Going from 21k to 24k is 14% so you're still good there, but screwing you out of the bonus is still a dick move.
vilhjalmr26
For age 21 min wage in 2023 was 10.18/hr which for 40/wk 52 weeks is 21,174.40. For 2024 mi wage goes up to 11.44, so yearly that is 23,795.20. Looks like they were given the min wage bump as a "promotion".
armagetz
Where?
saeheria
You deal with million dollar clients and get 24k? Dawg find a new job you can make that flipping burgers at McDonald’s
Frostycopper
To add insult to injury ihe is a lead of a team and getting paid that much.
thetinymonarch
This job is less stressful at least for me. I can deal with taxes, rebates, travel expenses etc far better than physical work.
AirBud3theReckoning
Is that with commission?
thetinymonarch
No
betterave
You could be an executive secretary / admin assistant for more money, and less stress.
PirateRubberDuck
I completely understand that justification in your own head, but it only justifies you taking the job and not the company under paying you. Look for equivalent positions elsewhere and see what they are paid, then bring this up with your boss and give them a chance to match it. If they don't then interview and get job offers, then ask again and choose where you want to be.
KirchoffsVoltageLaw
You're making close to minimum wage
MotherEffinSatan
I work bank customer service, dealing with million dollar companies, abd make roughly 45K a year, and it's remote. Seriously, you should be making more
RyvaTheRenamon
Dude you are getting swindled lmao
kraeftig
Sorry this is accounting and you're getting 24k a year? That's so far below median for zero experience I don't even know what else to say.
thetinymonarch
Technically it's finance but I have to deal with other companies accounting systems, banks, project order numbers.