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Iatesomecoffeecups
I appreciate the offer, but these racist shitbags are stuck with me. Im not gonna run from it, im gonna help fix it.
Rookvlees
I leave next week for Costa Rica. 8-day trip. It’s not a vacation. It’s to examine whether we could make it there.
flexstar
notacobra
Juuuusr wait until you see the Australian playbooks. It's the Americans but every line starts with "Check with Daddy Murdoch first"
whyismyusernametakenalready
They already do that - Murdoch owns Fox News
SexyAttackHelicopter
Whered you go? I was thinking new zealand
PatThaiCM
Thailand
Etlac
This is rapidly changing with people like Le Pen and Orban.
zutty
Putin's collapse will mark the turning point. Le Pen will never be president, and Orban's fealty to Putin will be his undoing.
jrntn
That's some beautiful naïvete. Absolutely poetic.
PouringBeerInAllHoles
In the Netherlands you can easily get a sustaining job of you can work well with your hands. (Cooks, plumbers, carpenters you name it)
MarioBoon
Same in Belgium. Nurses, IT,... except politicans. We've got enough of those
stronomer
Yes, that's about right.
SomeDetroitGuy
We all just saw the Le Pen / Macron presidential election play out before our eyes. This whole "Democrats are just like European
Fedotia
Do you know that Macron is right-leaning while Le Pen is far-right ?
SomeDetroitGuy
conservatives" is blatantly bullshit when Le Pen and Trump are absolutely indistinguishable other than her not having had a stroke yet.
Asteroidrules
And then there's Nigel Farage who is just like Trump, or Viktor Orban who is significantly further right.
bobon123
Honestly it is just difficult to match EU and US parties. The axis strong-weak government is much more left in EU (no right party in EU 1/
bobon123
would hint to a health system anyway similar to the US one), but on personal freedom and immigration EU (in particular Eastern countries) 2/
bobon123
is much closer to US. In EU fascists are fascists (nationalsocialists), while in US are weird Social Evolutionists meet Calvinists.
ThisIsAWasteOfMyTime
There are massive differences between countries in Europe. Yes, in the east Hungary and Poland have had similar developments to USA but >
ThisIsAWasteOfMyTime
elsewhere it's been mostly fringe elements. Like yeah, Greek had the Golden Dawn or whatever their nazi party was, which basically means >
ThisIsAWasteOfMyTime
having mainstream GOP policies, but that was like 7%. And elsewhere (Denmark, Sweden, Germany, France, Italy...) there are similar parties >
SomeDetroitGuy
How many votes did Marine Le Pen just get?
jrntn
PLENTY of EU right wing parties would LOVE a health system exactly like the US one. They are pushing private healthcare HARD
weirdscottishguy
Yes they would love to drag us back. But the US is mediaeval NOW.
bobon123
EU is surely heterogeneous, and indeed I am speaking mostly of countries below the Potato/Tomato (Beer/Wine) line: France, Italy, Spain, 1/
bobon123
Greece, Austria, southern Germany). I am in Netherlands today and indeed market oriented ideas look much more appealing here to the right.
TresusIbor
I COULD probably leave if I wanted, but my friends are here. And cross-Atlantic lag fucking SUCKS.
GDAkula
Oh yeah that's a great fuckin idea, just rollover and give up and run, surely the world's most powerful country sliding fascist is good.
DrShrinker
the GOP are Social conservatives, not Political conservatives. but also hypocrites. and many other terrible things. good comic
GraceMcClain
Zero difference between the Conservative Party in the 'UK, and the GOP in the USA, so not entirely inaccurate.
somethingdark
USA GOP is more like UKIP
PiggyWobbles
right, except for the whole socialized medicine being the default assumption thing
GraceMcClain
The NHS that they are selling off, and have been doing for 20 years? Don't be fucking thick.
PiggyWobbles
yeah so if they continue to get worse for... say... 50 years, then you will end up exactly where the US is TODAY
parkerh17
Yep they will sabotage it until nobody can remember it used to function well and then they will rail against its ineffectiveness to get>
parkerh17
It replaced by a private system. Don't let them.
mardukkur
The Democratic Party's platform is mainstream center-left for Europe. Manifesto Project Source: https://archive.ph/PjNEF
mardukkur
Yes, downvote the work of European academics SPECIFICALLY comparing the party platforms in favor of that gut feeling you have.
Fedotia
That's an opinion article from NYT...
mardukkur
It's a description of The Manifesto Project's analysis of the Democratic vs EU nations' party platforms.
Fedotia
They arent quoting their work, just trying to use their system, and it fails to account that US of A system is already far-right leaning.
mardukkur
That Rep's electoral success has made the US center of gravity so far right makes the Dems ranking with their EU peers even more impressive
somethingdark
Maybe link to the actual Manifesto Project next time instead of an opinion piece from a news source
mardukkur
Maybe practice critical reading skills instead of seeing the word "opinion" and turning your brain off. The Project's work is dense.
somethingdark
All I'm saying is that they have their own website. https://manifesto-project.wzb.eu/
CaveGrue
Pray tell, how does someone whose only marketable skill is a culinary education escape this 3rd world hellhole? Are they ANY countries >>
MarioBoon
Belgium's restaurants and bars etc are screaming for staff.
CaveGrue
>> that would accept a worthless American?
IAgreeWithTheSpottyTwerps
For Australia search here for possible visas: https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/working-in-australia/skill-occupation-list
burlyqlady
English teachers are needed everywhere.
Curii
If you've got the quals get a job as a catering teacher?
Ismellofhockey
Canada needs cooks and chefs right now.
CaveGrue
Yeah but what's immigration like? I know a couple people married Canadians it was easier for the Canadians to move to the US so I figured >>
CaveGrue
>> this was a case of "don't bother" for me who doesn't even know anyone, and I need to aim for a different continent entirely
Ismellofhockey
Canada is technically one of the most immigrant welcoming countries in the world, though the red tape can be daunting. If you're looking...
ahorseelbowdeepinme
No. No, no, no. Nope. I'm sick of you ex-pats badnouthing the United States of America. You haven't even lived here in eight years. You dont
Volmaaral
Had us goin’ in the first- uh… third, not gonna lie.
skathir
I mean, I get your point, but also, it’s very very easy to get the news stream of pure shit from the US, especially in the Anglosphere.
skathir
This latest development ALL over the news here. The US is influential.
Volmaaral
Psst. Look at the two followup comments he did.
ahorseelbowdeepinme
Have the SLIGHTEST clue how much WORSE it is now! 8 years ago?! You mean during the reign of hope and change?! Before the reign of dope and
ahorseelbowdeepinme
Orange?! We weren't perfect 8 years ago but it's SO MUCH WORSE now! Please petition your country's leadership to liberate america!
honeybadger16
A bit over dramatic and extreme. Like the left version of QAnon.
Idsertian
Had me in the first half, not gonna lie.
TogepiSnow
liberate America you say? Totally unrelated to anything but does your country have oil? We already know it has a lack of credible democracy
AshFox
As a matter of fact, we have extremely large reserves!
YesmynameisGreg
Alaska and Texas. You can have em. Most of the south on the gulf coast too.
Masonrig
Quite a bit of it.
5050Saint
Top 3 in oil producing countries, IIRC.
tsuelue
How ... WHY, would you liberate the "Land of the Free"?! I don´t get it.
ahorseelbowdeepinme
Did you forget the /s?
tsuelue
Fuck ´em if they can´t take a joke.
iamthemanwithnoname
The right in Europe has been rapidly moving the U.S. direction for the last 15 years or so (minus the faux-religious element).
SilverNicktail
Ho boy, people don't realise how rapidly the UK is running to fascism after those dipshits handed the Tories ultimate power.
Asteroidrules
It's more like the US right has been following the European line, the far right in Europe is far more established.
parkerh17
Eh maybe to a certain point but while European countries were largely expanding safety nets and social services the US went hard the other>
parkerh17
Way and you know the rich ppl want to be able to convince you all to do the same and give them a bigger cut.
ThrowTheAccountAway
Yeah, remember when the Danish fascist party wanted to make an immigrant-prison-island? Good fucking times.
GnomeDeGuerre
That one failed, now they are opening concentration camps in Rwanda and Kosovo.
LurkerOfDarkness
We don't have a fascist party, we have a party the fascists have to vote for because it's the closest for them, but that's not the same.
ThrowTheAccountAway
That's what Americans said too. But then suddenly it became the openly-fascist party.
LurkerOfDarkness
Not even close, also someone made NB, and now the nutjobs moved there. And now they have even less influence.
whiteyeti
Following in aussies foot steps. The UK was considering putting thr asylum seekers in some random island in Scotland with 0 population
ArandomDane
Ours was only to be for the banished... Expelled criminal foreigners, that can't be sent home. So we didn't reach UK standards there...
iamthemanwithnoname
We are now doing something much worse and deporting them all the Rwanda (a country we condemned for human rights violations last year at UN)
GnomeDeGuerre
Radio Télévision Libre des Mille Collines closed less than 30 years ago.
ThrowTheAccountAway
Yikes. Had not heard about that.
iamthemanwithnoname
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61097114 To provide a source.
ErynGalen
As a Dane, I'm so ashamed of the law makers actually even thinking that would be im any way alright
HansVerhaegen
But America keeps showing us what'll happen if we listen to those inbred twits so we don't. Hungary is a bit of a black sheep though.
SpotlightStealer
To be fair the religion has been decreasing since bush
Quessir
I'm so incredibly glad that it hasn't happened in Ireland yet. Far right parties are consistently embarrassed when it comes time to vote.
Evi1Gav
But Ireland does have the heavy hand of religion in it's legal statutes.
Quessir
Yes, thank you De Valera. Thankfully the influence of the Church in state matters is dying. Finally. And religion having any kind of say >
Quessir
in what the state does or what the people have a vote on is also thankfully laughable these days.
Xenarion
Ismellofhockey
That's going too far the other way. Biden is not far right. Not even close.
Asteroidrules
A delusion that's not supported by reality? What a shock.
parkerh17
These usually focus more on the economic axiom than the freedom one. Even though Biden did have to be dragged into supporting gay marriage>
parkerh17
, started his career fighting alongside segregationists, still won't legalize weed. But even still he wouldn't fall far right on an>
parkerh17
Authoritarian scale. Just an economic one.
Xenarion
Thanks for the clear explanation.
Ismellofhockey
He's not far right on economics either.
Xenarion
Compared to most developed countries, yes. At least from my Canadian perspective.
Ismellofhockey
From my Canadian perspective, he isn't far right at all. Far right is Marine Le Pen. Biden isn't even close.
Xenarion
That's why he's in the Right section, not the Far Right?
Ismellofhockey
Check again. In the second graphic, both reds are labelled as one category.
LesbianRedwings
@ScorpionSage yeah, BUT HOW???
ScorpionSage
Start applying for jobs overseas
KiwiGameDev
I don’t know anyone personally who isn’t either painfully aware of the republican nonsense. It’s blared around the world 24/7
KiwiGameDev
the only exceptions I can think of are the idiots round here waving trump flags
Conser1
Why do people in Europe think people in the US give a fuck about what the European Overton Window is? Also, it's nowhere near as bad as 1/2
Conser1
2/2 people make it out to be.
DukeDarkwood
Our former President fomented an insurrection. Even if you SOMEHOW ignored all the regressive policies in red states and the stalling
DukeDarkwood
filibusters in the current Congressional session, that incident alone proves that yes, it IS as bad as people are making it out to be.
Conser1
Initiating a protest is not "fomenting an insurrection". Also, I seem to remember a riot happening on Trump's inauguration day with 1/2
Conser1
2/2 people chanting shit like "Not my president" being the friendliest. Wouldn't that also be considered insurrection by your standards?
Conser1
I will agree that the abortion laws are bullshit, but I seem to remember the majority of democrats screaming that the filibuster needed 1/
Conser1
2/ needed to be protected.
PiggyWobbles
"see things arent as bad as somalia so GOP policies are fine"
Conser1
Not even Somalia. Hell, we're in better shape than China.
PiggyWobbles
thats a pretty low bar considering it is an authoritarian shithole with low standards of living. I'd rather be competitive with Denmark
Conser1
IIRC, Denmark has more exports than imports and its population is a lot smaller and homogenous. So, yeah.
KoreanViking
What - and I say this with sincere confusion - do you mean with the situation in the US not being as bad as people say?
Conser1
People act like the US is some kind of 3rd world shithole. Yes, we do have poverty and homelessness, but name a country with the same 1/2
Conser1
2/2 size and population that doesn't.
KoreanViking
That’s not really the point though, is it? Inequality is neither unique nor new, but the US flirting with fascism should cause concern.
IamTOOOLDforThisShite
Canada here: in many respects 'murica IS some kind of third world shithole. Also a fascist autocracy.
Conser1
Conser1
This coming from a country that fucked its Native American people over harder than the US did and called a protest that was 95% peaceful 1/2