Plastic in the Beehive

Jul 3, 2016 6:29 PM

ALazyBeekeeper

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The Plastic Frame

Up until now, I've preferred to use a thin layer of beeswax as my foundation for a frame- it's natural, bees like the smell and it's a good use of the wax left over after honey extraction.

However, I decided to shake things up and try a plastic foundation this year in one of my hives for the first time- the added structural integrity is definitely a bonus when GODDAMN VILLAGE LOUTS KNOCK OVER MY HIVES WITH FARM EQUIPMENT!

Intrepid explorer

My main worry is the because plastic is unnatural, the bees might be put off by either the scent, or the feel underfoot.

However, before I could even put the frame in, at least one bee seem interested.

She brought some friends

It wasn't long before the bees became rather interested in the new addition to their hive. I think the hexagonal structure made them feel at home as it mimics their natural constructions.

Drawing it out

Within a week, the bees had started to 'draw out' the comb (building a cell around the hexagon framework laid down by the foundation) and filling it with honey. Once they've dried the honey out enough, they cap it with wax- that's the white blotches you can see here

Final touches

After a few weeks, it was clear the bees weren't bothered by the plastic. Here we can see that they've drawn out nearly the entire frame- I would estimate there's a couple of pounds of honey stored in those oh-so-fragile wax walls.

The Finished Product

Barring a few gaps, the bees had done a pretty good job filling in the frame.

The plastic foundation kept the lines nice and straight (wax foundation sometimes leads to a slightly 'bumpy' frame that can be a nightmare to harvest). All told, I was very impressed by the plastic- even if it did lack that 'authentic' feel.

I'm relevant! On a serious note this is really awesome.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Oh, honey.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I have so much respect for this craft. Thanks. -Sincerely, Humanity.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I love bees :)

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I love bees. They're so precious. When they go, we go.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Here's some bees for you. BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I want to be a beekeeper. My neighbours? Not so keen on it.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I use both with the same result

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Bees?

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

@op Problem isn't the initial because there is a thin layer of wax over the plastic. If the wax ever is damaged or gets old and dry..(1/2)

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

They won't build on it. This stuff seems great till bees start building 1/4" off the plastic. Mine are little prudes.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

@OP the long term results will be fascinating, from new i bet the special coating will attract them, but after a couple of years i wonder1/2

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

how a new colony will respond to them, also if they get some disease and need to be cleaned you can reuse and not burn them just dont eat it

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Dodo could not answer without a great deal of thought. At last it said, "_Everybody_ has won, and _all_ must have prize (134/441)

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Don't know anything about Beekeeping, but this was pretty interesting. +1

9 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

I haven't gotten hives yet, but I'm really getting into it, My mentor helped me split hives so I can finally bring bees home next spring!1/2

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Have you any advice for a new guy? I am really trying to take my time starting up, trying equipment before I buy my own.. the works.2/2

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

So OP, why do they leave some gaps?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

OP here- the gaps are either due to 'missing a spot' or the bees feeding from it- it is their food source, after all.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

And thanks :3

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Ah, cool! til.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

mind your beeswax

9 years ago | Likes 45 Dislikes 1

Oh beehive

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Wtf dude, I tried plastic foundation on one frame this year and they're only just starting to draw it out!

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Really? I've used plastic for years. Never had a single issue. Although plastic in the midst of wax might be less appealing.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Cool stuff @OP!The only other use of plastic Ive seen is www.honeyflow.com Lots ofppl seemed to have some issue with their use of plastic

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Fucking village louts

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yes because bees need more garbage.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You should also supliment the flowers with extra carbon from your exhaust pipe

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I've wanted to have my own little apiary, but have never had the room.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

well duh, apes are huge! (lelz)

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

@op, your past posts are amazing! You definitely deserve more attention. I'm still sad I can't keep bumblebees, though. THEY'RE SO FUZZY.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

For some reason I didn't think to look at the other posts until your comment! I love this stuff and I always enjoy reading about beekeeping!

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Who says you can't? Bumblebees are big business around here.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

9 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

Im definitely saving that image lol

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Worked on a 1000 give honey farm for 2 years all of the combs were plastic, allows for multiple extracting thruought the year

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Beeautiful

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Do bees not naturally make hexagonal cells? Or is this more to ensure consistency and encourage them to build in the right location?

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yep, you are pretty much exactly right. Without the frames they would build in a way that was much harder to harvest.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Also, they don't mix different types of honey in the hexagonal. Always thought that was amazing.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Wow! Awesome - thank you! :)

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

OP here- they naturally make hexagonal cells, but normally do so in very messy patterns- the frames keep everything straight-lined.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Very interesting ^_^ Thank you!

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

If anyone is interested in beekeeping, then I recommend checking out the YouTube channel Cody's Lab. He does videos checking on his bees

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

once in a while.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

thanks for that - I'll check him out

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

+1 for bee farming

9 years ago | Likes 296 Dislikes 4

Definite +1 to you for keeping one of the most important insects going.

9 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 0

Today's heroes

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Apiary ftw

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Bee farming? Borderlands 2 anyone?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

What about bee harming?

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 26

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

-1 for that

9 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 1

He said beef harming

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

Yah dun goofed

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

How do you even start beekeeping? Trap a bee? Hope it brings more bees? We need to save the bees, does this kind of beekeeping help that?

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Look up swarm boxes. You can make one and set it out in a field and a wild swarm may set up shop inside. Free bees!!

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Don't trap a bee. Go find a local beekeeper, ask them questions.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I was only half serious...only coz I don't know how it works :) I'll google it then

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

@op, you should do an AMA. Or explain more about this. 'Cause this is fascinating.

9 years ago | Likes 613 Dislikes 1

Yes, more bee stories, bee facts, all things bee, please.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Perhaps a work stories post?

9 years ago | Likes 117 Dislikes 1

"I got stung"

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Guys, I'm an avid beekeeper hobbyist, would you want some from me?

9 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

Yes! DO IT!

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

That'd be awesome too!

9 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

That'd BEE awesome! ;D

9 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

yea @op bee keeping is cool, you should do i step by step picture or something, or just more posts about the process to explain it.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Guys, I'm an avid beekeeper hobbyist, would you want some from me?

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Yes!

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Hell yes. Particularly in the "Work Stories" format.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I also know a think or two about this type of stuff.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Want some vids? 628DirtRooster on youtube has a neat channel about beekeeping.

9 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 0

Thanks a lot for this. Been wanting to get into beekeeping.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Cody's lab also have a bunch of bee related videos. Also other cool stuff

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Where hobby beekeeping is a way of life

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

What does AMA stand for? I know it relates to work stories. But how?

9 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 1

"Ask Me Anything"

9 years ago | Likes 27 Dislikes 1

What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

24 miles per hour or 11 meters per second for an European swallow.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Thanks!

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. It makes so much more sense now.

9 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

Herpderp

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

What did you think it meant? (just curious)

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

My mind lives in the gutter. You don't want to know.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

What does... AMA mean?

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

"Ask me anything."

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Okay, what does AMA mean?

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I'm a beekeeper. What do you want to know?

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

This might be a dumb question, but where does the wax come from for the beeswax? Do the bees excrete it?

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

OP here- bees have glands on their underbelly that turns the sugars in nectar/honey into wax.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

How much honey do they typically make? How much/ what makes it vary?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

OP here- 1 bee, about 1/8 oz honey. 1 Hive, up to 80 pounds of honey per year. Variability can be very high, and is often weather dependent.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Thanks! That is so interesting! Do you mind if I ask another question?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Go ahead.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Would it be realistic to have a bee farm in close proximity to your house? I have a rooftop patio and would consider getting into beekeeping

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

OP here- it would put your patio 'out of action', but if your neighbours/landlord allows it it would be workable.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Thanks OP!

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm curious about this too because I'm curious about strategy of close-by flower clusters, and if other hives create conflicts.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

OP here- there's some conflict between hives, but it's quite small- the industry standard is about 5 per hectare, but it varies.

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