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Seriously, this girl needs to have her name dragged through the mud like his was, and face serious criminal charges, like he did.
Source:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-42366629
DigitalBang
Why is only his name used over and over? No mention of the girl.....
CitizenDickbag
Never, ever EVER trust the police. Never, ever EVER talk to them w/o a lawyer. They aren't your friends, they don't want to help you.
Bergeldergle
And this is why i take accusations with a grain of salt unless there is proof.
bigdaddyfatpants
Those police need to be discharged.
thesearethegifsiwaslookingfor
Also the investigating officers should be fired.
BarftheMawg
So many criminals here! The girl, her friends who knew the truth, the cops! What a travesty!
salire
Legally protection of the victim not afforded the suspect. It’s a UK thing. Source: I live here :)
deathbycheese
she needs to go to jail. the cops need to be fired and maybe jail,
deathbycheese
for trying to send an innocent man to jail. they all had a part in ruing this man life
VioletMoonRising
I can almost bet this guy got in most trouble talking to the police. NEVER speak to police beyond the bare minimum. NEVER.
burningitchyrash
NEVER EVER..
CrazyQwert
While I do find this disgusting as well I still hate people who are for disclosing names. We are not in the Middle Ages anymore
chromaticlotus
Whereas generally I agree with you, I feel in situations where the accused is publically disclosed and the accusor is proven to have lied 1/
chromaticlotus
The accusor must be disclosed for safety of the general public.
sharkpartyx
She's been able to remain anonymous through this whole case while he sits on bail, probably terrified.
RideTheStimutacs
If only Imgur paid as much attention to the guilty.
Transgirl7
Even though I didn't say No until a week later, No means No!
justadude41123
But he at least harassed her for having a promising future, leaving her sexually frustrated!
kibouchi
*rings Bell at girl* "SHAME! SHAME! SHAME!"
prawnklng
With all the media coverage; sue the shit out of her and the cops.
burningitchyrash
You have your mindset right when a cop asks if you know what time it is, you say "yes" and walk away.
humanisnocturna
Man this dude looks so much like Freddie Prinze Jr.
AtheistNotAntiTheist
the justice system here in the UK is in shambles. 10,000 pieces of forensic evidence were tampered with. So many innocent folk locked away.
Morrigi
The authorities in the UK are more concerned with political correctness than justice, victims and the innocent be damned.
AxelBeingCivil
Something to note: If his case had gone to trial sooner, this would've lasted no time at all. He was on bail for two years because of (1)
AxelBeingCivil
If the justice system wasn't as burdened, this'd have been over in no time at all. (3)
burningitchyrash
Wow. Sounds like the USA..
AxelBeingCivil
how long it takes cases to get to court. He was acquitted after three days because the evidence was turned over as a part of the trial. (2)
Ohbejuan
Sadly these days when you’re accused you’re automatically guilty till proven innocent.
JohnnyLawlessEsq
I think that's actually the legal presumption in the UK, has been for centuries.
MoooCow
Same with all the sexual harassment stuff accusations going on. Yeah, many people are guilty, but let's not jump to conclusions.
lilnoodlecaboodle
People who do this are disgusting (for the victims, and real victims of rape).
TheBlueFantastic
An ex-friend accused 2 of our friends of sexually assaulting her. Turns out she’s just a lying fuckwit. She could’ve destroyed their lives
Soifon87
People who do this should face their own lawsuit with at least half the prison sentence for rape. Only in real proven cases of course.
brocyeet
Half ??? What they did is fucked up
NeoAcario
I'll accept the half idea.. if they also have to register as a sex offender. They should have to tell people to be cautious of them. Legally
SnoBored
If she is a false accuser what she did is wrong. However that takes a separate trial to establish. We shouldnt see him as guilty without a
SnoBored
Trial and that same thought applies to her. She may be false accuser, may not, he is not guilty in my mind, but so is she of accusing until
SnoBored
She is found guilty by a jury of her peers
ConstableDuggins
Nah they have literal proof the bitch lied. That bitch guilty as all fuck
SnoBored
She may be, im for a trial, i just think we need a culture of not seeing people as guilty until after trial. And for that to happen, it must
SnoBored
Be applied to all no exceptions. Otherwise how can we expect people to treat the accused of rape as innocent until proven guilty if we dont
lyongirl69
We all know the majority of sexual assaults are very real, horrific & traumatic. Unfortunately a few terrible people lie about rape
TheThingThatPeopleNeverTalkAbout
I'm pretty sure statistics dont back up your claim I will look around for what I actually found a bit ago
TheThingThatPeopleNeverTalkAbout
http://reason.com/blog/2017/09/11/devos-campus-rape-reports-false-title-ix Here is an article that explains it a lot better than I do
TheThingThatPeopleNeverTalkAbout
And the other 98% are completely true. Which just isn't that case. I hate it but it'd so damn difficult to prove anything for this stuff.2/2
TheThingThatPeopleNeverTalkAbout
Asuming just a few people lie about rape is very unfounded we just dont kno.People are pretty shit both men and women.Just in different ways
Xorism
All sexual assaults are horrific but I don't believe that there are only a few liars.
TheThingThatPeopleNeverTalkAbout
That means there is around 90% of cases that just cant be proven true *he said she said* I see lots of people go 2% are false allegations?1/
TheThingThatPeopleNeverTalkAbout
In the end this is more of an example and dont believe the stats in this case are that accurate. Read the link I posted earlier
notagainwiththenames
For every story like this that ends up with so much publicity, I wonder how many hundreds of rapes there were that we never heard about.
InsideTheForest
How many false accusations do we not hear of?
thoughtsonthedead
On imgur? None. Every day, there’s posts about a guy being falsely accused of rape as if it happened as much as actual rape.
FuckYourMorality
'as if'. You'd have to spin it that way because nobody is actually saying it does. It's a hot button, controversial topic, with legitimate 1
FuckYourMorality
potential legal ramifications. Hence why it's in a place of discussion. 2.
Seeker61
It happens a lot
thoughtsonthedead
Not really. And certainly not as much as all the fuckboys on this site think it does.
Seeker61
Those fuckboys really piss you off, don't they?
HisBabes
Not from the UK. Does he have recourse against the accuser? Can he sue her? Can he sue the police who withheld the evidence?
nomonjoka
From what I understand the police are overwhelmed, understaffed, and begging for help. Not excusing, but neglect vs malicious
TheFeralDog
This would be malicious since they did it for the win and money and had no desire for truth
Edunc12
Who is paying them for the win? They’re police...
TheFeralDog
Directly for it? Nobody, but conviction rates and funding are shown to correlate
FuzzyX
The CPS should not have failed when it is their job to review all evidence to see if a case has a reasonable chance of Court conviction.
WARHAMMER405
Those cops pulled a Gerry Conlon on Liam. The cops hid evidence that cleared Gerry from the defense because they wanted a conviction.
Workid
Yes but it’s a lengthy and expensive process, most British people will just want to put it behind them
whitebbwolf
plus they just nixed any financial help for ppl who cant afford the costs
HisBabes
I’m a survivor & went through hell trying to get to court so this pisses me off as well as I feel horrible for that poor man. It’s a shame.
Workid
Sorry to hear that man, the current situation for men is fucked
HisBabes
I’m a Rape survivor. While looking over the bites, scratches etc they asked how often I enjoy rough sex. Med tech mentioned how wet I was 1/
whitebbwolf
I learned in Sex ed that there is a difference between autonomous bodily reactions, which can be highly confusing, and consensual sex. 1/2
HisBabes
while doing the rape kit. LEO asked what I was wearing, who I dated & how often I had sex. Case kept being postponed while they looked 2/
Donkeymong
Wtf bbc think you mean "met takes 2 years to clear an innocent man" siding with the "victim" even when they're lying
Jagerfr34k
Why are we talking about big black cocks?
wokegamergirI
Because yo fat momma started the conversation
itisntisit
How have they sided with the "victim"?
Donkeymong
I was referring to the other bbc article on this today which when i made this comment was linked on the bbc page op linked.
Donkeymong
YourMomJokes
i like bbc's approach with most articles. but some of them are cringe af
Donkeymong
Getting worse worse. Dont think im going to be renewing my tv licence.
Rogahar
With Netflix, Hulu and Youtube I've not needed a TV license of my own since halfway through university.
tr3buchet
what the actual fuck is a tv license?
YourMomJokes
i look at bbc.com every day as americunt. some are really credible and unbiased. but...
Donkeymong
Its gotten to the point where i just check the wires then research the subject for myself.
HighlandPotatoe
I hadn't had a licence for 6 years. Watch stuff online, no iplayer either.
initialdave
Same here.
Donkeymong
Oh im not getting rid of my tv aha im just not paying.
TheVindowViper
Yesss
HighlandPotatoe
We have tvs, we use them for games and streaming. There's no aerials coming in the house and non of the tvs are tuned
TheVindowViper
This person
AxelBeingCivil
They're quoting him... This is an article interviewing him and explaining how he feels betrayed...
BorkD
The title is obtuse/ambiguous and doesn't summarise what happened at all. At best, clickbait, at worst, intentionally obtuse.
AxelBeingCivil
Looks pretty clear to me. When they put it in quotes like that, they're quoting.
BorkD
stating how someone feels, rather than what actually happened, seems obtuse doesn't it?
AxelBeingCivil
They do state what happened. Also remember that the BBC can't say he (or anyone else) is innocent; they can only describe what happened, (1)
AxelBeingCivil
not what is or is not assumed to be the case. It's generally a good policy but can lead to some awkward writing sometimes. (2)
Donkeymong
I was referring to the other bbc article on this today which when i made this comment was linked on the bbc page op gave.
AxelBeingCivil
Got a link to that?
Donkeymong
AxelBeingCivil
Where is the issue there? That looks pretty standard to me.
Donkeymong
What it makes it sound like the police fucked up and a guilty msn got away
ImprovedLoungewear
Law enforcement who define their jobs as "winning" instead of "an unending search for truth" will continue to persecute the innocent.
ThailandExpress
This is the basis of US Justice system
iAintNoSynthDammit
This is the flaw of an adversarial justice system. The defense and prosecution are opponents and some of them see it as a sport where the>
iAintNoSynthDammit
the only thing that matters is your win/loss ratio
Cassiraa
A defense lawyer is hired to defend you... And a prosecutor is hired to prosecute. Hopefully the truth shows it self, both do their jobs.
ImprovedLoungewear
When the resources of the publicly funded prosecution come down on you, you might not feel like it's a simple matter of 'doing one's job'
ThailandExpress
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/mvkgnp/law-professor-police-interrogation-law-constitution-survival
ThailandExpress
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE
HEXADECIMAL
I used to play MTG with an Assistant DA, he told me, 'We care if we can or cannot win with the evidence presented and nothing else.'
TheGreatWhiteWolf
I've posted similar stuff and get down voted to hell. U.S. cops would've "lost" (destroyed) the evidence. There's probably more Innocents 1/
TheGreatWhiteWolf
In prison here than guilty people. 2/2
WTFJohnny
I won't go that far, but one is too many .
Enoan
Well, a lot of people are guilty of non violent low level drug offense.
scarface98
And there’s a whole system in prisons designed to keep people in and make it almost impossible to get your life in order after that point
VioletMoonRising
This. The police are not your friends, EVER. They have one goal, convicting people.They have no legal to "protect". Never talk to them.
RandomActOfConfusion
If you're arrested, yeah, get a lawyer. Otherwise most cops I've interacted with are good people doing a difficult job.
VioletMoonRising
You know how they get these falsely accused in trouble? they pretend to be on their side,call the girl crazy,get them to admit to having 1/2
VioletMoonRising
sex. and then use that to verify the rape claim. 2/2
HeadOfProfessorDowell
Before you're arrested. What you say can be used against you, not to help you. Alibi you give checks out? Can't introduce it in your defense
SlippingIntoMadness
It's not easy
Xplode441
The polices job is to take you in and get you to confess so they have less work to do. Never talk to the police before a lawyer.
WTFJohnny
This .. don't do their job for them
bradthegeek
Everyone should watch this. https://youtu.be/i8z7NC5sgik
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PMurFP
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derpon
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holymanbatbatman
autodots, roll out!
SteakJesus
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sadtreefriend
Police lawyer dot
bradthegeek
Hehe I name my dots too. Rarely go read them though.
CentipedeSpecter
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dragoonthevoter
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Teslabrainwashedme
Great video, thanks for sharing
Rizbiz99
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GingerList
For later
searrBugTerror
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Septagrim
40,000 messages of her pestering him for casual sex.
MadDrDrillBit
what a prude, would have only taken most dudes one message.
Error404TrollNotFound
It's weird wording. All it says is that the disk contained 40,000 messages, and that some, or all, of those were about "casual sex."
royoffthegrid
No it says 40,000 messages. Somewhere in there, there were some messages pestering him.
grimbor
+1
StreetsAheadMemeDude
Kinda feel less bad for him, still a victim of crazy but he knew there was crazy when he went in
CliffWestern
sounds like the article says there were 40k messages, she may have solicated sex and it brings the allegations into doubt. idk what 1
CliffWestern
shifty. Which they pretty much always are. 4
CliffWestern
happened but you can still rape someone whom you had a sexual relation with. Used to be legal in the US to rape your wife. 2
maeyu
I wonder if he was the one who took her phone and sent the texts to make him look innocent. Idk I try to look at other explanations
CliffWestern
well the other explanation is they could have had a kind of relationship and then he raped her. That still happens pretty regularly.
CliffWestern
rape afterall isn't really about sex. Its about power.
CliffWestern
not saying that's what happened but all the article basically says is that there isn't enough evidence to convict and the cops were being 3
DawnofAzazel
Na its just worded poorly, the hd contained 40000 overall messages some of which were asking for casual sex from him.
CraftedLine
A lady in my city is facing 32yrs. Check my posts.
Septagrim
Good.
dutchsingh
I haven't had 40k text messages my whole life, this guy had 40k asking him for sex!
somethingsomethingusernamey
I though it was 40,000 messages from her, to her friends, saying how good he was and the like
oledyak
Good looking guy, girl brags about how good he is in bed to others and he still gets hit with false rape charges. Imagine the opposites
TheHawkRules
Both.
DontTouchMyHoHos
Both
ArtOzz
Either way, 40,000?! Did she send a fuckton of 1 word texts or did they count by the character or word or whut?
simplefishy
you've never text a woman
ArtOzz
You would be correct.
d1d1t4t3hlulz0hl4wdy
remember when phone companies charged per-text? maaan that woulda been like... $40,000 a decade ago, lol
BigTex1
K
anonnona887
Basically sending 2-3 words per text
theshinobi23
Half sentence texts. My wife started doing that when she was in college. Says it lets her reply faster, but I think it's to get steady ring
serpx
I've seen this develop from group/public chat.Where being first gives you the floor and other people will respond once your argument is done
BigWilldo
I do that sometimes, especially if it's gonna be long. For some reason, it feels better to me to have it broken up instead of one big thing
koopaya
lol, I those friends. I don't think it's about the essence of the reply as much as exhibiting a behavior meant to match emotional state.
koopaya
*I had... my bad
ArtOzz
Yeah, if you have the type speed of a one armed dude and the memory of a gold fish...not offence to your Mrs.
theshinobi23
I receive them nearly simultaneously, and my ringtone hits nonstop for about a min after they stop coming. It's why I use FF7 Victory Tone.
DonnaNobleInTheLibrary
Makes me wonder why he apparently didn't have any copies of them.
CaffeineManic
"New phone, who dis?"
I0VE525P00GE
He had recently changed his phone which obviously fucked his defence. He relied on the police doing the right thing and they nearly didn’t
kalethan
Your attorney can usually submit requests or get subpoenas for phone records.
elkhoundsforeveryone
Because you need a warrant to get copies going back that far, it was the polices job to do that and instead of using it to prove his 1/2
elkhoundsforeveryone
2/2 innocence they used it to try and convict him, shows how shitty the system is
I0VE525P00GE
I can’t believe women like this exist. Apparently she suggested all kinds of rape fantasies to him. The police didn’t disclose the/1
JohnPlanetCat
Hardly a woman, she's a little girl that is clueless. Not aiding to her defense, but sticking up for women who are not little girls.
I0VE525P00GE
Hell hath no fury like a stupid little bitch with a pointless vendetta. She should be named, sent to jail and made an example of./1
I0VE525P00GE
Her actions not only could have robbed one innocent man of his life but affected the judicial process for true rape victims./2
Vaanhalen
As a guy i can EASILY believe women like this exist bc ive met lots of them.
I0VE525P00GE
It astounds me that anyone could be so heartless. You need to pick your friends better
Vaanhalen
They're not my friends. They were my classmates in college and grad school. Lotta sociopaths with doctorates out there, turns out.
I0VE525P00GE
It seems bitches do be crazy
ablecreature
It’s hard to detect crazy right off the bat, unless she(or he) is obviously showing signs. The crazy tend to be good at hiding that
I0VE525P00GE
conclusive evidence from her phone which proved his innocence..why not? Surely they want justice for the innocent. His defence had/2
I0VE525P00GE
nothing but his word that he didn’t rape her so if the police hadn’t disclosed the texts..which they nearly didn’t...he would be looking/3
CraftedLine
He should sue the police department!
I0VE525P00GE
at 12 years and a ruined life all because some stupid bitch decided to fuck him over. She should get the sentence that he would have got /4
I0VE525P00GE
had he have been found guilty.
DonnaNobleInTheLibrary
Maybe it's different in the US, but in Germany the police doesn't have to help you prove your innocence. At all.
DirtRockets
The police don't have to try to help you prove your innocence, but typically they can't conceal exculpatory evidence. It's fucking shame-
DirtRockets
ful. The issue here isn't even one of rape, false allegations, or the like. It's one of willfully concealing evidence from the defence.
CaffeineManic
Are the German police allowed to conceal evidence?
I0VE525P00GE
This is UK by the way.
Tamerdinosaur
it IS supposed to be different in US. Innocent until proven guilty. Unless you are a white male ofc.
DonnaNobleInTheLibrary
Same here, but the police's job is only to find enough evidence of your guilt so the public prosecutor can take you to court.
I0VE525P00GE
But surely if the evidence is there they should though...surely they have a responsibility to ensure the correct outcome.
DonnaNobleInTheLibrary
Nope. They only have to tell the prosecutor, because he's the one to look like a proper idiot if your lawyer brings it up in court.
tooomanystevesgotbanned
And yet the cases of false accusations is still tiny compared to the rapes that don't get reported.
tooomanystevesgotbanned
*reported to the police.
BlackIC
You literally cannot know that. By definition.
tooomanystevesgotbanned
Reported to the police.
BlackIC
If someone says they were raped and didn't report, how do you know it isn't a false accusation? You don't. You have their word alone.
tooomanystevesgotbanned
In my life I have these people called "close friends". You may be unfamiliar with the term, but these friends are people you can trust.
Gunner192
so among your friends you have more that don't report than falsely accuse?
BlackIC
The plural of anecdote is not data.
Somanyquestions
But we're on imgur with 80%+ male users, so false accusations are scarier than rape.
tooomanystevesgotbanned
True.
dasmoons
I never understood that. A guy has a higher chance of BEING RAPED than he does of getting accused of rape.
Somanyquestions
Guys often want to handle their issues alone. You can do that for rape (deal with trauma, revenge, etc.) but not with public accusations.
Somanyquestions
I think they feel they can defend themselves better against a rapist than accusations, so the accusations are scarier.
Somanyquestions
And the "whole life ruined" is scarier than an actual rape for a lot of people.
dasmoons
Most cases happen when alcohol is involved, or it happens to a child/younger adult. As for false accus, proof is still needed.
Somanyquestions
We're talking about adults though, I don't think children are very scared of false accusations.
Somanyquestions
I agree, but fear isn't always rational. And in a lot of those cases, witchunts can happen with little proof, that's the scary part.