I just put MP3s on my server and stream them from it. You can use Plex for this purpose, or if you want something not corporate, Jellyfin. Or you can just copy the files directly to your phone.
I am a long-time Deezer subscriber since they beat Spotify to the Canadian market. However, they have a favourite artist limit of 200, which is annoying since I am old but keep discovering new young artists.
I use plexamp, all my cd's I've ripped over the years, the downloads I've bought from Bandcamp and the like, all available, nothing disappears oddly, they even have those nice algorithm playlists where they pick out similar tracks and I find something I didn't even know I had - but then I got a plexpass like a decade ago so it's technically free for me..
Nah I stopped using Spotify after it was clear they weren't paying the artists dick, and seemed awful slow on the uptake removing AI-generated sound-alikes. I switched to using a tool to download YT videos and stripping the audio out to an mp3 file and I'm having my music the old fashioned way. Thousands of catalogued and organized mp3 files. Yay.
what's the point of moving away from spotify becuase they aren't paying artists well, and then getting your music in another way that doesn't pay artists at all?
Because a) most of what I get has been shared by the artists themselves on their official channels, and b) a lot of what I get is by bands that no longer exist, and c) if it's not a or b, then I'll go out and buy the album(s) off bandcamp/artist site as and when I have funds available.
The company in question supports the defence of Ukraine, has delivered 4000 drones to them already, and are in the process of delivering 6000 more right now.
Funny how people "stand with Ukraine" until it comes to delivering what they actually need. Virtue signalling at its finest.
I just bought an old Ipod Classic, which I’m modifying to use an upgraded SSD, and a larger battery. I’m going to switch back to using MP3s again. Why are we consumers the ones who need to make these moral oppositions to robber barons? Why are artists getting a free pass to sell their music through these deplorable people? Why do I need to find better ways of funneling my money to millionaires who do business with everyone that I want to avoid?
Rogan doesn't denigrate human dignity. Quite the contrary. Try playing any of the *entire* casts that anyone cherry-picked a soundbyte from and see for yourself how terrible basic human conversation is, and the way he just kinda sidesteps and redirects while keeping a calm tone to not upset when idiots go on a rant. You're a sheep.
He's funding drones for Ukraine to fight Russia's jackboots. Try reading, this still qualifies as "watching" and the video OP even admits to not doing back-research.
It's wartime; the wild west of digital media has come again. Time to rip your own MP3s from CD or from YouTube or Spotify Free (it's surprisingly easy with - also free - Audacity), and build your library Gen-X style. The free library streaming app iBroadcast really helps with that, once you've built your library. Music won't die, only the vampiric industry of middlemen strangling it.
If you're talking about a Spotify alternative, what does it matter? They're not missing the microscopic thousanth-of-a-penny you'd be giving them through Spotify. Go check out what the artists themselves say. Some of the biggest names in music get monthly checks from Spotify under $20, IIRC.
This has always been the way bands make the majority of their income. Weird AL has said he basically got nothing from albums, buy from fair services such as bandcamp.
It's been this way for a while, Spotify just made it WAY worse.
There's gotta be a better way for artists to make and distribute their music where they get the lion's share. That was the idea behind United Artists, and it worked well until the founders sold it.
Artists receive approximately 90% of all sales of their music, and i believe it's once monthly that they do "bandcamp fridays" where they give 100% to the artist instead.
Plus, you get to download the music to own, on top of streaming it off their service.
fyi, Someone stating an observation is not something you can legitimately dispute; you do not know what that person saw or how their eyes work. Things that can be legitimately disputed are statements of fact. This might have been confusing because languages have customs of dropping formalities in casal discourse, such as not having an ending phrase of "to me." The qualifier or weakening of the statement via the use of "some" however is a more obvious clue, snd is a second thing which (1/2)
(2/2) cannot (legitimately) be disputed as it is not feasible or you to have experienced observing all worldly septum peircings. What may help you with this s recognising that the opposite of "all" is "not all", and the opposite of "none" would be "some".
funding drone warfare for ukraines battle? yes no? its not because they raised their prices recently without anthing to offer the paying customers, is it?
Upvote because we desperately need to use our money to vote for better companies. And this is why: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshittification While we're at it: got a better google search alternative that actually works well? I know couple and they're.. ok... but not objectively good (like google used to be at some point in the past)
I've been using Perplexity.ai - better than Google by far, but disturbingly, it makes shit up and stands by its shit unless you actually know what you're talking about, and then it will correct - but then if you search again, it will go right back to lying. Example, I did artwork for a game that was related to a well-known movie. To test the ai, I asked who did the artwork for that game. It knew the game, but despite my name being right on the box, it kept saying other artists until corrected.
Exactly! I'm an old feral, don't expect me to keep up with you kids. At least I checked for myself. With Perplexity, at least I can get a beer, pull up a chair, and see who can tell the biggest lie. Google just gives me more ads and paid garbage.
I want a search engine to return websites for me to then click into to view and verify information for myself, not just make up nonsense that just wastes my time, then I still have to click into exactly as much as I would have needed to, perhaps more. To each their own I suppose. Also I am half way through my sixth decade on this planet, not exactly a young kid anymore.
I use band camp. My Millennial ass has 200 CDs ripped to MP3, and dozens of purchased albums. I'm too invested this way to go for a subscription. Also, I have a few super rare albums and some "illegal" songs.
I'm a gen-x person. I quit counting my CDs at around 1,000. I love physical media (but not vinyl*). Bandcamp is great, I have bought a LOT of stuff from them. I often try to wait for Bandcamp Fridays when the artists get the full proceeds of the purchases.
* I'm deaf in one ear; the other one's not so great, either. No point in being an audiophile.
100%. streaming sucks ass. gimme those archival FLACs and let me decide how i listen to the music i bought. plus BCF means that $10 you paid for an album goes directly into the artist's pocket.
Venture Capital. A parasitic life form that acquires businesses and then ruins them. Generally speaking they take out massive amounts of debt to acquire a business, which then becomes the business' debt. They sell off assets, reduce services/features, fire staff, and otherwise maximize cash assets with a VERY short time horizon. After it collapses, they take all the cash and run, leaving the business (and its debts) to declare bankruptcy.
I now realize a lot of cds I had are rare, valuable, or have tracks that got taken off that album shortly or a while after. "Illegal" tracks, as you say. I always wondered why my Slipknot cd had a sing no one else's did and why theirs had a song mine didn't. I had the one with the track they got sued over, because I bought it when it came out, and everyone else bought it almost a year later.
Bandcamp is the best. Artists make the most money when you actually BUY their music. Plus, once it's yours, no one can take it from you. Also, when you personally curate your music, rather than leaving it to an algorithm, you appreciate the music much more!
This is the route I'm going, subscription fatigue is driving me nuts. Kinda the best of both worlds because you keep that download link for the (high res) files and download them to anything you're signed in to. Certainty of owning your media with the cloud available as a backup/hub.
Agreed. The worst though, is when you find a random new band you really like, and they don't have their shit on Bandcamp. A couple years ago, I came across a band I really liked on Youtube. They had their music on all sorts of streaming platforms...and I could technically buy their CD, but them being in Europe, and me in Canada, meant it would cost something like $40-50 CAD with shipping and shit. I tried reaching out to them, even offering to pay them fucking directly, and they effectively 1/
told me to piss off. Ahh well. Also recently remembered the name of a local band from like, 20+ years ago. Found their facebook page (band is broken up and hasn't performed in like, 15 years), left a random message, and one of the guys actually got back to me, and sent me remastered, higher quality tracks to all of the music they actually made!
My main thing with owning music, is...I often go out of cell service. It is nice to still have my music in the middle of assfuck nowhere.
I'm in the process of transferring my entire Spotify library to physical+owned digital, but one thing I might still want a music streaming service for is discovering new stuff. It's kinda good at that.
bandcamp is so much more future proof. Even if the company goes up in smoke, my hard drive will still have the same music on it. Streaming is offline? Now your music is gone. You own nothing and even pay for that with streaming.
Yeah, I use bandcamp and then put my music on a NAS at home that I stream from with Plex. I've been thinking of switching to Jellyfin since I'm looking at upgrading my NAS soon.
I ripped them all onto MP3, my phone is mostly full of music. I wish I could go back to ASUS ROG phones. They had a ton of storage, battery life, and the specs rocked. But Spectrum doesn't support them.
I pre-ordered a BlackBerry Q25 which has passed certification with AT&T/T-Mobile. They don't have a final draft yet but I'm hoping it will support a 512 Micro SD card.
My old ASUS ROG Phone 5 had 512gb storage, DTS X speakers, and 6000mAh battery for 1K USD. It was a beast of a phone with a bad camera. I miss it so much.
I used iTunes to rip cds (because it has access to gracenote) until just recently, but I am now looking for something else. I love using MusicBee to manage my files, but it doesn't auto-populate the songs name, etc. Never thought to use windows media player, I'll give that a shot.
My phone's a 2021 model with 256 GB. I have about 40 GB of music (and 100 GB free). That's 6200 tracks (400 hours) in Ogg Vorbis (around 230–260 average bitrates).
You could have 150 songs a gig. At very high quality.
Bandcamp is good once you've got past the discovery phase (and for supporting artists you've found on other platforms). The hardest thing to give up was Spotify's new music discovery tools (weekly, song / artist radios, genre playlists etc.), though they did make this easier by making the discovery less varied and generally more shit.
I find a lot of new music on YouTube these days. I'll watch a music video and then try one of the related videos. I've found some fun and unusual music this way
the amount of actual effort required to find good, new music is pretty low. there is an ungodly amount of good music out there. people are just completely out of practice.
You're right, but you get used to conveniences. I grew up with listening to the radio and then buying magazines like Metal Hammer and hoping that the shops had the artist I was looking for (hint, they usually didn't). It got easier when you could order online but yeah, discovery was definitely harder then. I think the challenge is that a lot of people aren't aware of the tools out there.
If you're partial to thrash or crossover, Power Trip (RIP Riley), Enforced, Judiciary, and Iron Reagan are excellent. I'm a few years out but there's really great death metal from Gatecreeper, Creeping Death, Hooded Menace, and Blood Incantation.
I'm an ex-metalhead (sort of)... I used to listen exclusively to metal in my teens but as I got older I started listening to all other genres. Now I have to be in the mood for metal, and I mostly stick to more "extreme" forms (Doom / Sludge / Noise / Black / Post-Black) and more interesting genre mix-ups (like early Zeal & Ardor).
Metal is the only place where I know I can let my anger out and I won't be judged for it. I can jump in a pit, slam, push, and run into people all night and people love me. Also: the music fuckin rocks.
Blackbraid (melodic black), 200 stab wounds, Cobalt (yeehaw doom), Voidfallen (melodeath), Synestia (the most extreme symphonic metal you will ever find), sadistic ritual (classic death/rock), Konvent (fantastic doom), Cloak (black/death)
Allegaeon. All classically-trained musicians who play something between technical metal and some kind of thrash-death metal of which all the songs are about science. Check out "All Hail Science" from Proponent for Sentience and any of the entire album of Apoptosis (tracks move through concepts such as the stages of meiosis and extremophiles to name 2) for a good glimpse.
What kind of metal? I recently found a power metal band called Owlbear that does songs about gaming. There's also a Ukrainian symphonic metal band called Ignea that's pretty good.
Easier just to list bands: Unleash the Archers, Fear Factory, KMFDM, Mechina, 16 volt, Genitortures, Gravity Kills, Hanzel und Gretyl, Jinjer, Ministry, Korpiklaani, Nightwish, Rammstein, Type O Negative, Tyr, Van Canto, Wind Rose, Apoclyptica, and The Hu
"their" ads are the same ones floating around every other media platform. Watch Stand Up On The Spot for free on youtube an$ try not to catch a BlueChew ad.
Have had Tidal for quite some time. I am watchful for shenanigans though. I have 0 brand loyalty and would drop them in a heartbeat if I find out they are up to shady shit. But one of the best artist payouts, a very complete program, offline listening, works well.
Yeah, me too. Anyone else remember that? No? Nobody remembers the "leave Spotify; they just spent millions of dollars guaranteeing Joe Rogan was on their platform" controversy? That's weird because I heard SO MANY PEOPLE claiming they'd never sorry Spotify again, and I have never seen another person except myself and ^^^^ that guy actually do it. Fuck Spotify. Stand up for your principals, kids.
I deleted Spotify for that, but also I never subscribed so they just loaf my as revenue. Switched to Tidal, but eventually I just started using CDs and Bandcamp.
My problem is I haven't engaged with these shitty companies in the first place so I can't storm off like others ... The only ones that I'm stuck with are Loblaws and Amazon which I just try my best to minimize
Those people still unashamedly use Twitter and Facebook, and whine incessantly about them. While coming up with excuses why its ok for THEM to still use products run by nazis.
I never wanted to switch from Pandora Only did when they lost a bunch of playlists Went back but am still happy to have new alternatives because I'm still annoyed at Pandora
Came here for this, and this comment is way too low. Front-page is covered with "We support Ukraine", but huge upvotes for ditching Spotify because their CEO invests in a company that supports Ukraine (and has done since 2021 when it was founded, I believe.)
How the fuck did people think Ukraine needed support? They need counters to Russian military aggression. That means arms, not thoughts and prayers.
Yeah, but, for me the final draw is when Spotify has started to play random-ass Turkish hip-hop or German Hip-hop tracks on my favorite lists. Now that is is uncalled for and the worst kind of warfare!
Yeah, unfortunately when a dictator sends a million stormtroopers into your country ... "resisting" them ... well ... you're going to have to pick up a weapon and kill them. You have to cross the moral line of killing people.
The ability to show mercy to an military aggressor and disarm them without killing them is ... pretty much pure fantasy. It's the stuff of superhero movies. Superman can do it, because he has the extraordinary luxury of being literally invincible. Humans aren't.
It's slactivism at its finest. To the bands that pull out and deny themselves profits, sure, they're doing something at a net loss, but when joe schmo bravely takes a stand by not using a free service/cancelling a paid service in a time of economic hardship it rings of finding an excuse to moralize rather than show any real principals.
I 100% agree with you, the one posting the video and the woman that actually made the video probably read some TikTok info and didn't bother doing any kind of research. I'm definitely not supporting war, but Russia has proven over and over again that they won't stop.
I'm vehemently opposed to all war ideologically, but spending *any* dollar *anywhere* in this country is doing so fiscally, and I'll go fucking nuts without music and maybe kill someone myself. So. Sticking with Spotify. Even existing here at all supports war bc census headcounts, demographic research, etc are all data used one way or another for lobbying and drumming up more excuses and funds for war.
This needs to be higher. The whole "funding AI drones" thing is just alarmist. If you want to find alternatives to save some money, then by all means do it, but to try and attach some superiority complex to it is silly.
Yes, the company in question (Helsing SE) is a German defence company that is working with weapon manufacturers to integrate their AI systems in currently existing weaponry, and one of the specific use-cases is the defence of Ukraine.
The defence of Ukraine isn't just one of the specific use-cases for Helsing but was the entire reason for the company being founded and they've been involved in drone production for Ukraine since then. The Spotify founder being antigenocide is a super weird reason to hate Spotify and feels more like a psyop.
Not sure if you heard this luv. But Russia invaded Ukraine. And the Swedish do not take too kindly to that. Not surprised the owner is investing in drone development.
Because of why; a name is not a reason? Have you ever listened to his casts? In entirety, not just the cherry-picked soundbyte some liberal media dot-com put up to start an anger march? Have you? You have not, or you wouldnt post this stupid shit. I'm left of communist, TRUE leftism on the actual whole political gradient, and I havent heard any sort that the American Democratic Party-left whines about & creates bs stories about. He has open conversation and sidesteps asshats when they go off.
For me it was Spotify making a big donation to DT's inauguration and hosting a speech during it about their importance hosting alt right podcasts that made me quit the platform entirely.
Oh and he's a philanthropist and researches the truth of the path of money behind anything he donates to, on top of paying for fighter surgeries and all sorts of shit without broadcasting it because he actually just cares about doing the thing, not getting attention for it. He also puts up money for causes like $100k to anyone who would come on and debate RFK's crazy fucking vaccine bullshit. He's a decent human, any haters are just jealous they can't commit to morality themselves.
He's a better conversationalist and interviewer than any late-night or early-morning bullshitter and he has a better way of curtailing nonsense than the average American citizen can recognize, let alone practice themselves. This is why they think he supports assholes, just because he doesn't rage and kick them out and put up a clickbait-as-fuck episode all for attention and to shit on someone for a social war which he has no need to literally be personally involved with.
Well, considering I've told Spotify 5 times to stop playing the same Nickelback song, and the next day it's right back on the playlist, yeah, Spotify definitely isn't working as intended.
I've had Pandora since you needed an invitation to join Facebook. I kinda want to blame inertia for not switching to anything else but honestly, aside from some user interface cleanup I think they could do like making it easier to sort your stations, I'm still fine with them.
It did. I got Pandora in 2006 from a sketchy biochem major my sophomore year of college. It was still brand new, the selection was barely any, and they had a "are you still listening" prompt every four songs or so with a little note explaining how much it cost them for each song play and to please only play things if you are actively listening. My account is still tied to a hotmail email.
I'm working on something... logins, posting, and commenting all work. I'm moving to moderation, and (maybe?) all the technical bits will be functional by EOM. But... due to stupid countries & laws, even the most basic layer of legal & compliance stuff will take much longer than actually building the site. But it's in progress...
Loved stumbleUpon but stopped using it when I went on imgur, looked for it again a few years ago. I'm not sure if they renamed or it's a different company, but https://cloudhiker.net/ is a good alternative :)
have an old friend who just decided to reopen communications in the form of sending me 9gag stuff far too often, and it is rough. like feels like most of it is a stuck a decade back, now that may also be his shitty tastes, but still, doesn't look promising.
there was a time, like 15 years ago that they had some very fun image and gif compilations on the regular, then they continued to increase the attractive women compilations at the cost of the funny ones.
my first meme go-to was FunnyJunk. Then some 9gag. Then iFunny for a little while. Then imgur 10 years ago. Imgur I've been with the longest. But now imgur isn't funny at all, just news and politics, rage bait and thirst traps. Maybe one or two occasional good funny or random dumps.
I desperately want an alternative that's actually funny.
Yep, it's gone down the pan in recent years. Waiting for someone to come along with something fun and entertaining again, and not just vitriolic politics.
MemeCenter (collapsed) and Tickld (used to be like Imgur where it was memes and a comment section, but now it’s just clickbait.) ….. I keep wanting to start a new site called OnlyMemes, but I have no idea how I’d control it to be safe.
I must not be on here enough (SO would absolutely disagree). I’ve seen the rhm’s, but the others seem to have mostly disappeared in the hours that I visit.
"new generation of" directly implies there's a current generation of, and indirectly implies this is a pattern that goes back further in human history. It's almost like we're wired to enjoy sex or something. We missed the gun on supporting Proudhon communalism, and then on supporting Socialism to get there. You cant stop the capitalist train on the fast track to destroying itself. It's perpetuated by subjugating the very population it relies on to exist in the first place and fails w/in 300 yrs.
I have politics blocked, but I'll be honest it only helps about 50% of the time. Ppl don't tag their posts. And when I ask them to, I get a ton of downvotes and ppl insulting me or assuming things about my political views. The same community that has helped me in the past and donated supplies for my students is the same community that insults me for stupid shit like that. Feels bad man 😢 I still like imgur overall though.
Either you get "funny and memes" and a userbase who enjoys the descent into fascism and welcomes the nazis, actively votes for them, and is bigoted, racist, and sexist.
Or you get politics and news with funny dumps sprinkled in. Because the choice you're making is "a community that cares(and thus talks about the problems) or a community that doesn't care(and thus worsens the problems)". Sorry. You have to pick.
"Non-sequitur" the coward says, and then deletes their comment after all I did was point out their fuckass analogy literally is unrelated to social-media websites.
yeah that seems like BS to me lol. You can care about all of that shit AND have a site just for laughs and memes without it being swarmed with news every other post.
And I don't get a vibe of "we're posting this because we care" I get more of a vibe of "this will definitely get views and front page, and let's all just doom scroll together and feed off each other's negativity" it isn't a caring environment at all to me. You sound like one of the problems with imgur to me, sorry 😐
No, loser. We're talking about memes. Your personal politics don't have to bleed into every orifice of life, nor do you and anyone else with a need to show off their armpit hair need to force politics into places that don't involve them.
bolobass
Deezer.
I like the simplicity and great quality, and independent platform.
Eldibs
I just put MP3s on my server and stream them from it. You can use Plex for this purpose, or if you want something not corporate, Jellyfin. Or you can just copy the files directly to your phone.
SpankingMidgets
Thank you Beetlejuice!
Earlgreyhot6
That's actually beetlejice's cousin, picklejuice, lol, common mistake
xBufferzz
I'm a Deezer (com), main now.
astroboy86
Deezer works extremely well
GaryRW
I am a long-time Deezer subscriber since they beat Spotify to the Canadian market. However, they have a favourite artist limit of 200, which is annoying since I am old but keep discovering new young artists.
Sh1tMovieGroup
I use plexamp, all my cd's I've ripped over the years, the downloads I've bought from Bandcamp and the like, all available, nothing disappears oddly, they even have those nice algorithm playlists where they pick out similar tracks and I find something I didn't even know I had - but then I got a plexpass like a decade ago so it's technically free for me..
santawashere
I miss groveshark
somerandomusernamebecauseididntlikemyoldone
Oh wow, haven't thought of that in a long time
perlninja
Nah I stopped using Spotify after it was clear they weren't paying the artists dick, and seemed awful slow on the uptake removing AI-generated sound-alikes. I switched to using a tool to download YT videos and stripping the audio out to an mp3 file and I'm having my music the old fashioned way. Thousands of catalogued and organized mp3 files. Yay.
OldManXan
what's the point of moving away from spotify becuase they aren't paying artists well, and then getting your music in another way that doesn't pay artists at all?
perlninja
Because a) most of what I get has been shared by the artists themselves on their official channels, and b) a lot of what I get is by bands that no longer exist, and c) if it's not a or b, then I'll go out and buy the album(s) off bandcamp/artist site as and when I have funds available.
Broken08
YouTube music
Earlgreyhot6
I LOVE YT music, i have found so much new stuff on there
fascinationstreet
NTS forever. Less control, means more discovery. Feels like old school radio at times, with new school everything else.
solemnwar
I still buy CDs. Makes a nice little collection on my shelf. And then I don't have to listen to ads.
thatwoodguy
I pirate it
justpullnpray
https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1Ym92bTgybzQxaXVta3V0cmMwZjc1M3g2NDc3bXphbXlkb29mOHVtcyZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/6UFgdU9hirj1pAOJyN/200w.webp
ViperMD
iConfirmAnythingAndEverything
Im still sticking to Spotify for the soul reason its convenient and most of all it's not American.
MissSiesta
Even if it supports destruction and death? https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1dG1jOGVpNGpkYWwwbnEzMTdxem43NTZ4dHZucTgzY2IzMTNuMXl2ciZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/ukGm72ZLZvYfS/200w.webp
0xEF
The company in question supports the defence of Ukraine, has delivered 4000 drones to them already, and are in the process of delivering 6000 more right now.
Funny how people "stand with Ukraine" until it comes to delivering what they actually need. Virtue signalling at its finest.
iConfirmAnythingAndEverything
America supports destruction and death. Go virtue signal else where mother fucker.
Sfingks
I just bought an old Ipod Classic, which I’m modifying to use an upgraded SSD, and a larger battery. I’m going to switch back to using MP3s again. Why are we consumers the ones who need to make these moral oppositions to robber barons? Why are artists getting a free pass to sell their music through these deplorable people? Why do I need to find better ways of funneling my money to millionaires who do business with everyone that I want to avoid?
bamcobra
Why? Tradition.
dghughes
I thought people abandoned it when Rogan was showed with cash? I swear people value convenience over human dignity.
n0n53n53
No, why would I give a crap about that? They also have a bunch of shitty songs I don't listen to, that doesn't mean I won't use the app .
yela5
Rogan doesn't denigrate human dignity. Quite the contrary. Try playing any of the *entire* casts that anyone cherry-picked a soundbyte from and see for yourself how terrible basic human conversation is, and the way he just kinda sidesteps and redirects while keeping a calm tone to not upset when idiots go on a rant. You're a sheep.
ma8e
I did. I'm actually surprised how few people let their money express their views by boycotting bad companies.
MagiiBarks
Qobuz is great! I switched to it in January and I don't miss Spotify at all. The simple and cleaner interface is a nice bonus, too.
Also... F*ck Spotify!
thatlamer
But do they have a roku app? I consume 99% of my music at work, drowning out the shitty local radio
yela5
He's funding drones for Ukraine to fight Russia's jackboots. Try reading, this still qualifies as "watching" and the video OP even admits to not doing back-research.
SilentScreamsX
I like Tidal.
kyro
I moved to Tidal from Spotify. Zero regrets. I don't have the most highly tuned ears, but I can hear the quality jump.
You can use Soundiiz to copy your playlists over with a couple clicks and 5 minutes of your time.
ItispronouncedGIFwithahardG
Do you have a paid account, or free? How are the ads?
kyro
I have a paid account.
or0b0ur0s
It's wartime; the wild west of digital media has come again. Time to rip your own MP3s from CD or from YouTube or Spotify Free (it's surprisingly easy with - also free - Audacity), and build your library Gen-X style. The free library streaming app iBroadcast really helps with that, once you've built your library. Music won't die, only the vampiric industry of middlemen strangling it.
somerandomusernamebecauseididntlikemyoldone
the important part is to support the people creating the content while not supporting the ultimate assholes our world has to offer
rubypilgrim
that's great but how does it support the musicians? We gotta feed them, not Spotify.
or0b0ur0s
If you're talking about a Spotify alternative, what does it matter? They're not missing the microscopic thousanth-of-a-penny you'd be giving them through Spotify. Go check out what the artists themselves say. Some of the biggest names in music get monthly checks from Spotify under $20, IIRC.
kravlin
Go to shows, buy merch.
This has always been the way bands make the majority of their income. Weird AL has said he basically got nothing from albums, buy from fair services such as bandcamp.
It's been this way for a while, Spotify just made it WAY worse.
rubypilgrim
There's gotta be a better way for artists to make and distribute their music where they get the lion's share. That was the idea behind United Artists, and it worked well until the founders sold it.
kravlin
That's bandcamp!
Artists receive approximately 90% of all sales of their music, and i believe it's once monthly that they do "bandcamp fridays" where they give 100% to the artist instead.
Plus, you get to download the music to own, on top of streaming it off their service.
NL31
Septum piercings drive me crazy!
Earlgreyhot6
I too get extremely horny at the site of nose jewlery
laserfrog
Some look like a hitler stash
Earlgreyhot6
no, no they dont
laserfrog
fyi, Someone stating an observation is not something you can legitimately dispute; you do not know what that person saw or how their eyes work. Things that can be legitimately disputed are statements of fact. This might have been confusing because languages have customs of dropping formalities in casal discourse, such as not having an ending phrase of "to me." The qualifier or weakening of the statement via the use of "some" however is a more obvious clue, snd is a second thing which (1/2)
laserfrog
(2/2) cannot (legitimately) be disputed as it is not feasible or you to have experienced observing all worldly septum peircings. What may help you with this s recognising that the opposite of "all" is "not all", and the opposite of "none" would be "some".
somerandomusernamebecauseididntlikemyoldone
just makes me think of oxen, but to each their own
Earlgreyhot6
so horny
somerandomusernamebecauseididntlikemyoldone
accurate, bulls can indeed have quite some big horns
Earlgreyhot6
Huh......idk how but you shut that down real quick.
DuffyMx
funding drone warfare for ukraines battle? yes no? its not because they raised their prices recently without anthing to offer the paying customers, is it?
0xEF
Yes, the AI company in question (Helsing SE out of Germany) is invested in the defence of Ukraine.
DonkeyGoat
I like Thrive and Grove for Amazon alternatives. They're not perfect but good enough for me
thisizdavid
Link? Shipping to Europe (Norway)?
DonkeyGoat
http://thrv.me/BLMjiF
DonkeyGoat
I can't find a referral code for grove, but it's grove.co
vwyx
.
MaybeIllDisappear
I haven't heard of either and Google isn't being super helpful. Just to make sure, are you talking about Thrive Market and Grove Collective?
yela5
Grove is a stupid "clean organic" products Kansas City Shuftle.
DonkeyGoat
Yup.
noWhiteHorseHereJustBatturuPrinsu
Upvote because we desperately need to use our money to vote for better companies. And this is why: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshittification While we're at it: got a better google search alternative that actually works well? I know couple and they're.. ok... but not objectively good (like google used to be at some point in the past)
rubypilgrim
I've been using Perplexity.ai - better than Google by far, but disturbingly, it makes shit up and stands by its shit unless you actually know what you're talking about, and then it will correct - but then if you search again, it will go right back to lying. Example, I did artwork for a game that was related to a well-known movie. To test the ai, I asked who did the artwork for that game. It knew the game, but despite my name being right on the box, it kept saying other artists until corrected.
rubypilgrim
Motto of the story: don't trust search results, check them on multiple sources. I'm concerned as actual sources are gradually replaced with ai slop.
somerandomusernamebecauseididntlikemyoldone
using a service with .ai and you were not going into it expecting it to just be making shit up?
rubypilgrim
Exactly! I'm an old feral, don't expect me to keep up with you kids. At least I checked for myself. With Perplexity, at least I can get a beer, pull up a chair, and see who can tell the biggest lie. Google just gives me more ads and paid garbage.
somerandomusernamebecauseididntlikemyoldone
I want a search engine to return websites for me to then click into to view and verify information for myself, not just make up nonsense that just wastes my time, then I still have to click into exactly as much as I would have needed to, perhaps more. To each their own I suppose. Also I am half way through my sixth decade on this planet, not exactly a young kid anymore.
CrabbyBlueberry
Duck Duck Go is working out OK for me. I'm guessing you knew about that one.
noWhiteHorseHereJustBatturuPrinsu
I did. Gave it a chance multiple times but so far I've been disappointed. It is steadily improving though so I am not giving up on it.
laserfrog
startpage for search
5m4llP0X
I use band camp. My Millennial ass has 200 CDs ripped to MP3, and dozens of purchased albums. I'm too invested this way to go for a subscription. Also, I have a few super rare albums and some "illegal" songs.
UncleMartha
I'm a gen-x person. I quit counting my CDs at around 1,000. I love physical media (but not vinyl*). Bandcamp is great, I have bought a LOT of stuff from them. I often try to wait for Bandcamp Fridays when the artists get the full proceeds of the purchases.
* I'm deaf in one ear; the other one's not so great, either. No point in being an audiophile.
HandoB4Javert
McUUID
I'd love to see a resurgence of people holding bits themselves instead of suckling them off streaming services' miserly tits.
Sakkura
I only used band camp this one time.
SmollCashew
Okay, but that's clever!
Superstzday
100%. streaming sucks ass. gimme those archival FLACs and let me decide how i listen to the music i bought. plus BCF means that $10 you paid for an album goes directly into the artist's pocket.
Superstzday
that said, bandcamp has been hit with the VC stick, and i'm not sure how viable it will continue to be in the future, which is why i also use AmpWall.
vanderzee
thisd gets me worried, what is a VC stick?
TheMomaw
Venture Capital. A parasitic life form that acquires businesses and then ruins them. Generally speaking they take out massive amounts of debt to acquire a business, which then becomes the business' debt. They sell off assets, reduce services/features, fire staff, and otherwise maximize cash assets with a VERY short time horizon. After it collapses, they take all the cash and run, leaving the business (and its debts) to declare bankruptcy.
howunfortunate9
I now realize a lot of cds I had are rare, valuable, or have tracks that got taken off that album shortly or a while after. "Illegal" tracks, as you say. I always wondered why my Slipknot cd had a sing no one else's did and why theirs had a song mine didn't. I had the one with the track they got sued over, because I bought it when it came out, and everyone else bought it almost a year later.
5m4llP0X
Yep. That shit's crazy, no? Now, present that CD to the band and ask them to sign it. Man, do they have some awesome things to say.
TheOvy
Bandcamp is the best. Artists make the most money when you actually BUY their music. Plus, once it's yours, no one can take it from you. Also, when you personally curate your music, rather than leaving it to an algorithm, you appreciate the music much more!
DidItForScience
And on Bandcamp Fridays, the artists get ALL the money.
NationalistCanadianMooseWarrior
This is the route I'm going, subscription fatigue is driving me nuts. Kinda the best of both worlds because you keep that download link for the (high res) files and download them to anything you're signed in to. Certainty of owning your media with the cloud available as a backup/hub.
5m4llP0X
I might reopen Pandora to look for more music, but I have friends who do that and suggest me bands.
Goldmarble
Agreed. The worst though, is when you find a random new band you really like, and they don't have their shit on Bandcamp.
A couple years ago, I came across a band I really liked on Youtube. They had their music on all sorts of streaming platforms...and I could technically buy their CD, but them being in Europe, and me in Canada, meant it would cost something like $40-50 CAD with shipping and shit. I tried reaching out to them, even offering to pay them fucking directly, and they effectively 1/
Goldmarble
told me to piss off. Ahh well.
Also recently remembered the name of a local band from like, 20+ years ago. Found their facebook page (band is broken up and hasn't performed in like, 15 years), left a random message, and one of the guys actually got back to me, and sent me remastered, higher quality tracks to all of the music they actually made!
My main thing with owning music, is...I often go out of cell service. It is nice to still have my music in the middle of assfuck nowhere.
goboltz
You need to lookup NAS with jellyfin ! Make your own streaming service !!
LordAlbertson
I hear you. I already have plex set up and a full backlog of dvds and Blu-ray’s. I’m getting close to doing this for my music collection.
unluckyandbored
Fortunately music files are a LOT smaller.
tehguldincalk
I'm in the process of transferring my entire Spotify library to physical+owned digital, but one thing I might still want a music streaming service for is discovering new stuff. It's kinda good at that.
Ruflbot
This. This is the way to go.
bandcamp is so much more future proof. Even if the company goes up in smoke, my hard drive will still have the same music on it. Streaming is offline? Now your music is gone. You own nothing and even pay for that with streaming.
ShadowBlade0911
Yeah, I use bandcamp and then put my music on a NAS at home that I stream from with Plex. I've been thinking of switching to Jellyfin since I'm looking at upgrading my NAS soon.
5m4llP0X
Learn from HBO removing movies!
ThingsThatDontJustifyGenocide
I use piracy.
spaghettron3000
Me, too. I used to use google music, which was great, but now it's youtube music which is terrible.
5m4llP0X
I do, if I want to hear the CD fist before I buy. Now, $10 is fuckin cheap for an album.
howunfortunate9
Man I recently started getting cds again. I had a book of 350 ripped off back in the day and never rebuilt
LeoFloof
Buying back a used CD library from Bull Moose Music after selling my library to them years ago is an irony I won’t soon get over.
dynamojoe
One of my favorite things to get at flea markets is old CDs. I rip them and put the disc away somewhere.
5m4llP0X
Yep! I like knowing if my MP3 gets corrupted I have a backup.
xcrit
I hope you have a big ass cd book for road trips.
5m4llP0X
I ripped them all onto MP3, my phone is mostly full of music. I wish I could go back to ASUS ROG phones. They had a ton of storage, battery life, and the specs rocked. But Spectrum doesn't support them.
xcrit
I pre-ordered a BlackBerry Q25 which has passed certification with AT&T/T-Mobile. They don't have a final draft yet but I'm hoping it will support a 512 Micro SD card.
5m4llP0X
My old ASUS ROG Phone 5 had 512gb storage, DTS X speakers, and 6000mAh battery for 1K USD. It was a beast of a phone with a bad camera. I miss it so much.
do7rkb5n
Some of the older samsing phones have expandable storage, but now 512gb or whatever is plenty of space. What program do you use to rip cds?
5m4llP0X
Windows Media Player. I'm not an audiophile.
do7rkb5n
I used iTunes to rip cds (because it has access to gracenote) until just recently, but I am now looking for something else. I love using MusicBee to manage my files, but it doesn't auto-populate the songs name, etc. Never thought to use windows media player, I'll give that a shot.
McUUID
My phone's a 2021 model with 256 GB. I have about 40 GB of music (and 100 GB free). That's 6200 tracks (400 hours) in Ogg Vorbis (around 230–260 average bitrates).
You could have 150 songs a gig. At very high quality.
66 GB = myriad songs
5m4llP0X
Yeah, this only has 128gb of storage, And Google kinda wastes a lot of space.
satanslittleposter
Bandcamp is good once you've got past the discovery phase (and for supporting artists you've found on other platforms). The hardest thing to give up was Spotify's new music discovery tools (weekly, song / artist radios, genre playlists etc.), though they did make this easier by making the discovery less varied and generally more shit.
highstream
I find a lot of new music on YouTube these days. I'll watch a music video and then try one of the related videos. I've found some fun and unusual music this way
kirmokum
the amount of actual effort required to find good, new music is pretty low. there is an ungodly amount of good music out there. people are just completely out of practice.
satanslittleposter
You're right, but you get used to conveniences. I grew up with listening to the radio and then buying magazines like Metal Hammer and hoping that the shops had the artist I was looking for (hint, they usually didn't). It got easier when you could order online but yeah, discovery was definitely harder then. I think the challenge is that a lot of people aren't aware of the tools out there.
kirmokum
Putting in that work generally means you will value the music more too.
5m4llP0X
That does rock. I really need to find more metal heads for more music options.
Megadestructo
If you're partial to thrash or crossover, Power Trip (RIP Riley), Enforced, Judiciary, and Iron Reagan are excellent. I'm a few years out but there's really great death metal from Gatecreeper, Creeping Death, Hooded Menace, and Blood Incantation.
satanslittleposter
I'm an ex-metalhead (sort of)... I used to listen exclusively to metal in my teens but as I got older I started listening to all other genres. Now I have to be in the mood for metal, and I mostly stick to more "extreme" forms (Doom / Sludge / Noise / Black / Post-Black) and more interesting genre mix-ups (like early Zeal & Ardor).
5m4llP0X
Metal is the only place where I know I can let my anger out and I won't be judged for it. I can jump in a pit, slam, push, and run into people all night and people love me. Also: the music fuckin rocks.
satanslittleposter
Happy to share some if you listen to any of those subgenres though :)
ElinPlanetCatcher
I'm up for recommendations!
NationalistCanadianMooseWarrior
Blackbraid (melodic black), 200 stab wounds, Cobalt (yeehaw doom), Voidfallen (melodeath), Synestia (the most extreme symphonic metal you will ever find), sadistic ritual (classic death/rock), Konvent (fantastic doom), Cloak (black/death)
yela5
Allegaeon. All classically-trained musicians who play something between technical metal and some kind of thrash-death metal of which all the songs are about science. Check out "All Hail Science" from Proponent for Sentience and any of the entire album of Apoptosis (tracks move through concepts such as the stages of meiosis and extremophiles to name 2) for a good glimpse.
highstream
What kind of metal? I recently found a power metal band called Owlbear that does songs about gaming. There's also a Ukrainian symphonic metal band called Ignea that's pretty good.
5m4llP0X
Easier just to list bands: Unleash the Archers, Fear Factory, KMFDM, Mechina, 16 volt, Genitortures, Gravity Kills, Hanzel und Gretyl, Jinjer, Ministry, Korpiklaani, Nightwish, Rammstein, Type O Negative, Tyr, Van Canto, Wind Rose, Apoclyptica, and The Hu
do7rkb5n
What about Slugdge? Intergalactic slugs. The song title puns are amazing. "Lettuce Prey" its tech death
NationalistCanadianMooseWarrior
You may like Ephemerald, Imperanon, timeless miracle, bloodbound, and gamma ray
jorgenah
I left them when they put Joe Rogan on the payroll
kbr1961
yep. yer part-of the IN-tolerant, Libtard, left ('COMMUNISTS').
jorgenah
Great argument, I will definitely change my mind now that I see someone like you call me names
Beefkins
Same. Been using Qobuz for music.
mikeatike
Same. They will not get another cent from me.
PithyCommentBelow
Same!
youreathing
Same, deleted account. Never going back.
yela5
Loser. Turn off your TV.
kyro
Same. Now I just steal Spotify's playlists via Soundiiz and play them on Tidal. I pay Spotify $0.00 and hear none of their ads.
yela5
"their" ads are the same ones floating around every other media platform. Watch Stand Up On The Spot for free on youtube an$ try not to catch a BlueChew ad.
IMakeLotsOfReferencesAndRemakes
Have had Tidal for quite some time. I am watchful for shenanigans though. I have 0 brand loyalty and would drop them in a heartbeat if I find out they are up to shady shit. But one of the best artist payouts, a very complete program, offline listening, works well.
tzahtman
I joined a few days before that was announced. I was so annoyed. Peeved, even.
RandomQuack
Same I immediately created a title account which migrated all my playlists and favorite tracks over I didn't have to do anything.
yela5
Jay Z is a pedophile, or at the very least supports the international movement with his billions of dollars.
RandomQuack
Jay-Z runs tidal? Fuck. Time to make the change again.
IncognitoEnthusiast
He used to, he sold his stake.
fubizdaddie
Yeah, me too. Anyone else remember that? No? Nobody remembers the "leave Spotify; they just spent millions of dollars guaranteeing Joe Rogan was on their platform" controversy? That's weird because I heard SO MANY PEOPLE claiming they'd never sorry Spotify again, and I have never seen another person except myself and ^^^^ that guy actually do it. Fuck Spotify. Stand up for your principals, kids.
kbr1961
Wowww... the HATE & IN-tolerance frm u COMMUNISTs, is palpable.
WaxDragon
I would've but I never use Spotify really so I forgot about it. Time to find one of these apps to use once every few weeks!
Strategicgnomer
My wife and I quit using Spotify as well. Nice of you to assume you're the only "good" person around though.
Qpnao
And me
Monocular0
I deleted Spotify for that, but also I never subscribed so they just loaf my as revenue. Switched to Tidal, but eventually I just started using CDs and Bandcamp.
WooNeat
My problem is I haven't engaged with these shitty companies in the first place so I can't storm off like others ... The only ones that I'm stuck with are Loblaws and Amazon which I just try my best to minimize
mikeatike
Can't beat that Law Blog.
mikeatike
Those people still unashamedly use Twitter and Facebook, and whine incessantly about them. While coming up with excuses why its ok for THEM to still use products run by nazis.
Rumpelstiltskinner
Maybe they just didn't carry on about it like petulant children?
bertchstudio
I never wanted to switch from Pandora
Only did when they lost a bunch of playlists
Went back but am still happy to have new alternatives because I'm still annoyed at Pandora
Enoan
Pandora also just isn't available in most countries as far as I can tell. Can't use it in Australia or Japan at least.
Pallish1
He is supporting a drone warfare company that creates also donates drones to Ukraine, which I 100% support.
MissSiesta
Oh. That makes all the difference.
0xEF
Came here for this, and this comment is way too low. Front-page is covered with "We support Ukraine", but huge upvotes for ditching Spotify because their CEO invests in a company that supports Ukraine (and has done since 2021 when it was founded, I believe.)
How the fuck did people think Ukraine needed support? They need counters to Russian military aggression. That means arms, not thoughts and prayers.
All this moral posturing is getting ridiculous.
KT8819
Yeah, but, for me the final draw is when Spotify has started to play random-ass Turkish hip-hop or German Hip-hop tracks on my favorite lists. Now that is is uncalled for and the worst kind of warfare!
JetrelPixelArt
Yeah, unfortunately when a dictator sends a million stormtroopers into your country ... "resisting" them ... well ... you're going to have to pick up a weapon and kill them. You have to cross the moral line of killing people.
The ability to show mercy to an military aggressor and disarm them without killing them is ... pretty much pure fantasy. It's the stuff of superhero movies. Superman can do it, because he has the extraordinary luxury of being literally invincible. Humans aren't.
yela5
Also a tall, stocky, dark-coiffed-haired white male with a strong jawline and a fainty dainty lady-on-a-whim. Can't forget that tidbit. SDE,
RufusPimperton
It's slactivism at its finest. To the bands that pull out and deny themselves profits, sure, they're doing something at a net loss, but when joe schmo bravely takes a stand by not using a free service/cancelling a paid service in a time of economic hardship it rings of finding an excuse to moralize rather than show any real principals.
Pallish1
I 100% agree with you, the one posting the video and the woman that actually made the video probably read some TikTok info and didn't bother doing any kind of research. I'm definitely not supporting war, but Russia has proven over and over again that they won't stop.
yela5
At least this person admits they've no idea what the lobbying they mention as a bad thing was even about.
I'd rather support supporting Ukraine than support the international child sex slavery trade.
yela5
I'm vehemently opposed to all war ideologically, but spending *any* dollar *anywhere* in this country is doing so fiscally, and I'll go fucking nuts without music and maybe kill someone myself. So. Sticking with Spotify. Even existing here at all supports war bc census headcounts, demographic research, etc are all data used one way or another for lobbying and drumming up more excuses and funds for war.
ItispronouncedGIFwithahardG
Who is "he" here?
yela5
The entire subject of the video embedded as the content of this post. Wow.
OfficialFoxy
I think JIF is asking for a name, but instead gets 2 passive agressive comments.
ItispronouncedGIFwithahardG
Despite your misuse of GIF, I appreciate the response.
OfficialFoxy
Daniel Ek is the CEO of Spotify
Username62611
The CEO of Spotify
Castagere
Redoneter593
Off of Youtube mainly is what I've done.
ViperMD
yela5
Demonoid for the absolute win/RIP/back for the win/RIP/... && Isohunt in their intermittent absence.
TigerThong
AI drone warfare? like for Ukraine? cause then im down.
n0n53n53
This needs to be higher. The whole "funding AI drones" thing is just alarmist. If you want to find alternatives to save some money, then by all means do it, but to try and attach some superiority complex to it is silly.
0xEF
Yes, the company in question (Helsing SE) is a German defence company that is working with weapon manufacturers to integrate their AI systems in currently existing weaponry, and one of the specific use-cases is the defence of Ukraine.
NewtonWren
The defence of Ukraine isn't just one of the specific use-cases for Helsing but was the entire reason for the company being founded and they've been involved in drone production for Ukraine since then. The Spotify founder being antigenocide is a super weird reason to hate Spotify and feels more like a psyop.
yela5
^This.
JohnSmithterms
Not sure if you heard this luv. But Russia invaded Ukraine. And the Swedish do not take too kindly to that. Not surprised the owner is investing in drone development.
yela5
People on the internet don't read, they just flame war and repost the nearest anger farm.
ma8e
I left Spotify because of Joe Rogan and AI music, but I agree that drones for Ukraine isn't a bad thing.
yela5
Because of why; a name is not a reason? Have you ever listened to his casts? In entirety, not just the cherry-picked soundbyte some liberal media dot-com put up to start an anger march? Have you? You have not, or you wouldnt post this stupid shit. I'm left of communist, TRUE leftism on the actual whole political gradient, and I havent heard any sort that the American Democratic Party-left whines about & creates bs stories about. He has open conversation and sidesteps asshats when they go off.
nadorou
For me it was Spotify making a big donation to DT's inauguration and hosting a speech during it about their importance hosting alt right podcasts that made me quit the platform entirely.
yela5
Oh and he's a philanthropist and researches the truth of the path of money behind anything he donates to, on top of paying for fighter surgeries and all sorts of shit without broadcasting it because he actually just cares about doing the thing, not getting attention for it. He also puts up money for causes like $100k to anyone who would come on and debate RFK's crazy fucking vaccine bullshit. He's a decent human, any haters are just jealous they can't commit to morality themselves.
yela5
He's a better conversationalist and interviewer than any late-night or early-morning bullshitter and he has a better way of curtailing nonsense than the average American citizen can recognize, let alone practice themselves. This is why they think he supports assholes, just because he doesn't rage and kick them out and put up a clickbait-as-fuck episode all for attention and to shit on someone for a social war which he has no need to literally be personally involved with.
zafner
https://youtube.com/@cutoffthespigot
You could have linked to her channel
Animeman1000
Thanks dawg.🙏🏾
MadamPuddifoot
@op
satanslittleposter
Just going to also hijack this comment to share https://fmhy.net/ as an option for people looking for places to get, well, all forms of media.
And remember regardless of how you get it, support the artists you love!
78927x4No1
. Music
LovepieCreampuff1031
.
ZebadiahCarter
DOT
YeGods
I'd rather they just write a list
handsofblue
https://cutoffthespigot.substack.com/p/spotify-alternatives-that-pay-artists here it is with sources.
GemsAreOutrageousTrulyTrulyTrulyOutrageous
Upvote this comment, downvote OP?
StevieTheAussie
Maybe just upvote both.
NinjaBauer
. Companies to avoid and their alternatives
amyamazeballs
Isn't YouTube bad now too..
martentos
It's been bad for a while now, pretty much all social media is (looking at you imgur) the trick is to use the bad to do the good.
BaddyOneShoe
I'm older than most dirt and use Pandora. Do they power their servers with crushed puppies?
yela5
All servers are powered by crushed puppies and the crushed hopes and dreams of child cobalt miners, as is the phone you're likely using to be here.
jjmcgee83
I'm thinking of switching back to Pandora. I'm tired of the Spotify algorithm turning every playlist into the same fucking list.
PosthumousExile
It also doesn't know what "shuffle" means
habslove
IT REALLY DOESN'T
StandingOutsideABrokenPhoneBoothWithMoneyInMyHand
Hello fellow Pandora user.
yela5
Is this handle a reference to some scr/emo shit
StandingOutsideABrokenPhoneBoothWithMoneyInMyHand
Allow me to take you back to 1996 - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y2Pw9E3bL8
HypoMix
I wish Pandora would launch in Australia for a 3rd time.
Username62611
Me too. I'm tempted to get a VPN just for it
bvngholio
Unless I’ve been lied to, yes. Yes they do. Our money matters.
PeteyVonWho
I prefer Pandora, but it hasn't been working on my phone lately. Spotify is garbage in comparison.
yela5
Sounds like it's Pandora that's the garbage, as garbage isn't generally defined as things working as intended..,
PeteyVonWho
Well, considering I've told Spotify 5 times to stop playing the same Nickelback song, and the next day it's right back on the playlist, yeah, Spotify definitely isn't working as intended.
Skevoid
Weirdly Pandora is only available in the US, so their selection of international music isn't great.
yela5
Weirdly licensing works that way if you're not a multinational conglomerate or VC-backed powerhouse, or Weinstein Playbook user.
ardtay
I listen to a lot of post-rock and pandora's selection is just better from my experience.
BaddyOneShoe
I did not know this.
Arcanum3000
Same. Well, maybe not the "older than most dirt" part.
Cholf
Ive had a Pandora account since 2009, and have loved every minute of it.
wherearemytesticles
I have been using Pandora with a VPN and it's great.
yela5
What VPN and do you have The Onions in your sandwich
iguessihaveto
I've had Pandora since you needed an invitation to join Facebook. I kinda want to blame inertia for not switching to anything else but honestly, aside from some user interface cleanup I think they could do like making it easier to sort your stations, I'm still fine with them.
laserfrog
same
yela5
Liar. That facebook era ended in 2007.
iguessihaveto
It did. I got Pandora in 2006 from a sketchy biochem major my sophomore year of college. It was still brand new, the selection was barely any, and they had a "are you still listening" prompt every four songs or so with a little note explaining how much it cost them for each song play and to please only play things if you are actively listening. My account is still tied to a hotmail email.
Mr21782Man
Wow, there's 3 of us, I wonder how they keep the lights on.
yela5
Probably child sex slaves, wait 10 years there will be a doc.
Baggsy13
Imgur Alternatives?
deidyomega
4chan if you are daring
eggmuffin
Ebaumsworld *hides in a trash can*
dbox
This
thelatebillstickers
Fark.com
ourari
Hopefully someone will build a new Imgur on open source bones, like Pixelfed.
TheNextHafthorBjornsson
pornhub
Sherpafish
SomethingAwful.com
BobTheWeak
I'm working on something... logins, posting, and commenting all work. I'm moving to moderation, and (maybe?) all the technical bits will be functional by EOM. But... due to stupid countries & laws, even the most basic layer of legal & compliance stuff will take much longer than actually building the site. But it's in progress...
Broken08
Ifunny
ProgeriaProstitutes
Yeah I'm trying to find a non-USA alternative for everything.
WhatInTheSamhillisaPuma
Stumbleupon used to be my go to - im not sure if it exist anymore.
eiscriem
Loved stumbleUpon but stopped using it when I went on imgur, looked for it again a few years ago. I'm not sure if they renamed or it's a different company, but https://cloudhiker.net/ is a good alternative :)
WhatInTheSamhillisaPuma
Yes! That's awesome! Ive favorites it
Nathanyel
9gag *ducks*
rahbeNoodleBandit
9duck *gags*
9GAGTechnicalSupport
Hmm
somerandomusernamebecauseididntlikemyoldone
have an old friend who just decided to reopen communications in the form of sending me 9gag stuff far too often, and it is rough. like feels like most of it is a stuck a decade back, now that may also be his shitty tastes, but still, doesn't look promising.
tzahtman
Quack
GentlemanScientist
TheChive *runs away, covering head*
somerandomusernamebecauseididntlikemyoldone
there was a time, like 15 years ago that they had some very fun image and gif compilations on the regular, then they continued to increase the attractive women compilations at the cost of the funny ones.
Prunest
https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1amF6ZHFwcXZnaDdobDB0ZDZsZnRub3Q2N3V1cDA2bXR6cjZqMjZ1bSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/giFh2htn3rW5qyQRO6/200w.webp
Nathanyel
Yes, I do feel old. Used 9gag for a while ("when it was good") until I switched to Imgur.
Prunest
Surprised tenor had video footage of you dodging imgur outrage (not that they're wrong to disdain that nazi hellmouth)
cousteau
I wish I could be angry.
Evenmoreuselessname
Lol witnessed before you end up like a goddamn macaroni fork
Evenmoreuselessname
The votes on this did NOT turn out like I expected.
Imadeanaccounttofavandforget
Imgurians are a... capricious sort.
duhqueenmoki
my first meme go-to was FunnyJunk. Then some 9gag. Then iFunny for a little while. Then imgur 10 years ago. Imgur I've been with the longest. But now imgur isn't funny at all, just news and politics, rage bait and thirst traps. Maybe one or two occasional good funny or random dumps.
I desperately want an alternative that's actually funny.
dashers
Yep, it's gone down the pan in recent years. Waiting for someone to come along with something fun and entertaining again, and not just vitriolic politics.
Earlgreyhot6
Dont forget bizarre furry drawings.........i cannot for the life of me convince imgur to stop showing me.
robingal1
Icanhascheeseburger
PineappleLoopsBroether
Can haz
FreePalestineAndTheWorldFromIsrael
Holy shit is FunnyJunk still around?
duhqueenmoki
yeah haha
PineappleLoopsBroether
MemeCenter (collapsed) and Tickld (used to be like Imgur where it was memes and a comment section, but now it’s just clickbait.) ….. I keep wanting to start a new site called OnlyMemes, but I have no idea how I’d control it to be safe.
Baronaccio
bamcobra
Wait! Wait! There’s still thirst traps here? OMG! Could you point some out so I can avoid stumbling onto them accidentally?
Badprenup
Check every 5th post that makes the front page
duhqueenmoki
bro seriously? imgur has so many thirst trap posts there's a daily theme for them. THT, fetish Friday, red head monday or whatever. It's gross tbh.
bamcobra
I must not be on here enough (SO would absolutely disagree). I’ve seen the rhm’s, but the others seem to have mostly disappeared in the hours that I visit.
duhqueenmoki
maybe? this is a screenshot of front page right now and smut is still super frequent
BarryARief
I agree! So many people complaining about the behaviour of politicians while ensuring a new generation of shallow humans is ready to take over.
yela5
"new generation of" directly implies there's a current generation of, and indirectly implies this is a pattern that goes back further in human history. It's almost like we're wired to enjoy sex or something. We missed the gun on supporting Proudhon communalism, and then on supporting Socialism to get there. You cant stop the capitalist train on the fast track to destroying itself. It's perpetuated by subjugating the very population it relies on to exist in the first place and fails w/in 300 yrs.
ecstaticpuppy
While it doesn’t work perfectly, you can block tags. I started with blocking political tags and cosplay tags, for that same reason.
Earlgreyhot6
Blocking tags doesnt do anything
duhqueenmoki
I have politics blocked, but I'll be honest it only helps about 50% of the time. Ppl don't tag their posts. And when I ask them to, I get a ton of downvotes and ppl insulting me or assuming things about my political views. The same community that has helped me in the past and donated supplies for my students is the same community that insults me for stupid shit like that. Feels bad man 😢 I still like imgur overall though.
yela5
Welcome to the internet, where faceless humans show how they would really behave if they could be faceless. This planet is a trash heap.
NinjaCongo
It is NOT the same community.
ThingsThatDontJustifyGenocide
Pro-tip: You have to pick the community you want.
Either you get "funny and memes" and a userbase who enjoys the descent into fascism and welcomes the nazis, actively votes for them, and is bigoted, racist, and sexist.
Or you get politics and news with funny dumps sprinkled in. Because the choice you're making is "a community that cares(and thus talks about the problems) or a community that doesn't care(and thus worsens the problems)". Sorry. You have to pick.
Earlgreyhot6
Pro tip.....that doesnt work......they still force feed it to you
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ThingsThatDontJustifyGenocide
Do you really think social media websites are only full of your personal friends?
ThingsThatDontJustifyGenocide
"Non-sequitur" the coward says, and then deletes their comment after all I did was point out their fuckass analogy literally is unrelated to social-media websites.
duhqueenmoki
yeah that seems like BS to me lol. You can care about all of that shit AND have a site just for laughs and memes without it being swarmed with news every other post.
And I don't get a vibe of "we're posting this because we care" I get more of a vibe of "this will definitely get views and front page, and let's all just doom scroll together and feed off each other's negativity" it isn't a caring environment at all to me. You sound like one of the problems with imgur to me, sorry 😐
yela5
This. Too many losers on here commenting.
ThingsThatDontJustifyGenocide
So go enjoy 9gag and ifunny, then. Check our their community.
I know what you want it to be. The actual existence of these sites proves otherwise.
duhqueenmoki
lolwut
yela5
No, loser. We're talking about memes. Your personal politics don't have to bleed into every orifice of life, nor do you and anyone else with a need to show off their armpit hair need to force politics into places that don't involve them.
ThingsThatDontJustifyGenocide
Hey, welcome back, you haven't commented in 9 years. Nazi or colossal goose-stepping dipshit, I wonder which you are.
Or a stolen account, that's most likely.
ThingsThatDontJustifyGenocide
Downvoted for called a Joe Rogan-defender a dipshit, wow. Imgur, what's broken with you?