While I do despise Russian army cruelty and all, many of those people are really being tricked into the army or taken by force from streets while being arrested and etc. Russian government cruelty right now is just peak tyranny. More meat for the meat grinder, no matter what meat. One thing I heard also - they are massively conscripting mostly in East and Siberian regions, the most backwater regions far from capital. The losses there are biggest for all the regions.
Those poor fuckers are walking dead. Saw a dude so drunk he could hardly walk throw down his gun pick up the Russian flag and walk onto open field to get shot. Video from Russian side in Reddit. They have to know what's going to happen don't they?
Over a million Russians have already been killed and their own country doesn’t even give a shit. No outrage, no sadness from the families. What is mentally wrong with these people. Imagine if we had a smaller population and a million people died. Nuts
They're now forcing poor, untrained civilians to go die in soon to be frozen (again) trenches. A lot of these guys will be climbing over their better trained country men who've all but decayed into the ground. Pretty horrific. Though they are the enemy, I rarely see any of them happy or proud to be there.
Rooskie canon fooder nowadays are just murderhobos. Murderers from prison pardonned and given a gun, hobos grabbed off the street by the police then drugged or punched until they sign that slavery contract with the cash prize and salary often stolen by the policemen.
It didn't even "could have". Russia is an imperialist fake colonizer country that even stole it's name from the real Rus/Rusyns/Ruthenians in the 17th century just to have an excuse to wipe out all the other eastern European Slavic identities. Their real name is Muscovites and they are on of the few last colonialist countries ... still destroying the identity of all the occupied nativ nations.
It couls have many times in its history, the trouble is every single time it was Russians making the decision. Russia being a place that has a word that means "Better but in the sense that it's worse"
Most of russian forces being used have been conscripts or people forced into fighting. They arent real soldiers. They have 0 training and have NO reinforcement or supply lines. This war is literally meaningless just like vietnam, korea and the middle east. Just a bunch of old dudes who made this happen and the young die for it.
The only chance for them now is to keep a white flag in hand and hope they don't get shot in the back. The Ukrainians give their POWs a hot meal and a dry cot, which is waaay better than how Russia treats their enlisted men.
Which begs the question, why are all the politicians make Russia look like some kind of existential threat. They can't make few hundreds kms into Ukraine after almost 4 years, and they are trying to make it look like that Putin can somehow take over Europe? Ever since the mid cold war era, the people in charge already knew Russia's a joke, their equipment are leagues behind and with no economy to speak of, but they keep make you feel afraid. Laugh, but then reflect.
Nukes, the entire paper tiger that is Russia is about the nuclear weapons. It's all two people standing waist deep in gasoline threatening to use their matches.
Russia can't actually successfully invade any European countries, but as they proved in Ukraine, they can do a tremendous amount of damage. And they did successfully invade the Crimean peninsula, although that was a much smaller area. Since they have nuclear weapons, an invaded country can't respond with necessary force. They are very much an existential threat outside the battlefield as well. See: the current US president.
Remember that military-industrial complex Eisenhower warned about? There has to be an enemy of some real or imagined capacity to justify spending more than 1 trillion per year. These contracts are extremely lucrative. Lockheed Martin, Electric Boat, Boeing, and a surprising number of pharmaceuticals are among the biggest military contracts, all in the 10 billion or more per year range. Imagine if even a third of that went back to the public in terms of services ....
They are a threat because they don't care how many of their own people die. What this means is that both Russians and Europeans will die in droves if fighting breaks out. Don't forget that thousands and thousands of Ukrainians are dying constantly just to hold the line. A war of attrition harms both sides of the conflict. And a decapitation strike has to be perfect or Putin will launch whatever nukes he has available.
Crushing poverty, addiction, and desperation look the same everywhere. These "soldiers" bear striking similarities to some of the folks you might find living unhoused on the streets of American cities. Trump wants those people rounded up and put in work camps. Russia puts them on the front lines to be mowed down. What they need is medical assistance and housing. But the world is very cruel to the sick and poor.
They send approx 1000 of them to die, every single day. In groups of 4 to 8 men. They don't have a chance of survival. It's Russia's way to deplete Ukraine's resources.
Jesus wept this is fucked up. Any of those guys is so beyond unfit for service. They look like they’re either drunk AF or in the throes of withdrawal. What does it say about the average Russian citizen that this is what it’s come to? How can a regime like that stay in power for so long?
The Roman Empire lasted from 27 BC to 476AD, then it turned into the Byzantine Empire and lasted until 1453. In short, falls can take some serious time. Russia, as it is today post Soviet Union, has only existed since 1991.
Governments come and go, but the huge kingdom that is "Russia" has been pretty consistent since even before Ivan III liberated Russia from the Mongols. Huge tracts of land, controlled from Moscow by a brutal, centralized regime. The government can call itself a Tzarist Empire, or a Soviet People's Republic or Putin's Kingdom. The place has been mostly the same since 1480.
The best the Russian Army had died in February 2022 by being driven down a road into an ambush and the convoy was picked off, piecemeal... their best units were wasted in idiotic operations to take an airport to get an airhead... they failed and the VDV is no more.
My favorite was some operation they had to paradrop an entire plane full of VDV guys into Mariupol (or possibly Odesa). There was a miscommunication about their position, and the entire group got dropped about 15km away from shore, straight into the Sea of Azov, in full gear.
So, the only source of that is a youtube video... but, given the Russian military's complete incompetence, I don't really doubt it.... there seems to be an embrace of incompetence and corruption...
Soviet assault: The operation, officially called the Berlin Strategic Offensive Operation, involved over 2.5 million Soviet soldiers, 6,000 tanks, and thousands of artillery pieces and aircraft. The attack was launched from multiple directions by three Soviet fronts. German defense: The German defenders were a desperate mix of army units, Waffen-SS divisions, police, the Hitler Youth, and the elderly Volkssturm, with limited equipment and manpower.
There really wasn't any other choice in WWII. The Germans had them badly outgunned in terms of ordnance until almost the end of the war.
That said, their reputation for human wave tactics was vastly overblown. Those tactics were mostly used at the start of the war, when it was the only way to slow down the Wehrmacht's advance. By 1942, they'd largely stopped the practice (though they were still taking horrible casualties, that was again more a result of having rifles against artillery). 1/2
The perception was also partly due to the US Army War College hiring Nazi generals to write the history of the eastern front. After the Berlin Wall fell and we had access to the German records from the front, it turned out they had lied or exaggerated things to cover up their own mistakes (not everything was the fault of Hitler, Zhukov outmanevered them at points). Of course, the modern Russian army is a complete shitshow, but the Red Army in WWII weren't as incompetent as you might think. 2/2
Types of posture: Health effects, risks, and tipsMedical conditions that can cause people to lean forward include kyphosis, a spinal curvature (like "dowager's hump"), camptocormia (a "bent spine syndrome"), and flatback syndrome (loss of lumbar curve). Neurological conditions such as Parkinson's disease and Progressive Supranuclear Palsy can also lead to a forward-leaning posture due to balance and coordination issues. Other causes can include poor posture, hip problems, and the effects of age
They are old, tired, and physically broken. Exasperated by being drunk or high. Russia had incurred over 1.3 million casualties so far. Young healthy men are obviously in short supply.
Not just that. Many have fled the country. And they trick many people to conscript with literally any mean they can these days. Got arrested, don't want jail time? Why not get conscripted buddy? Murdered someone/politician corrupted/etc? How about you go to frontlines, buddy, to clean your name? And they have been changing mobilization and conscription laws for past 5 years constantly to fit their needs.
There have been rumors that Putin was going to change it, but that would make the wealthy in Western Russia have to send their kids to die in Ukraine, and that is the source of Putin's political power... so, as long as he only burns off the rural yokels, no one in the cities gives a shit.
However, tapping into the wealthy youth of Putin's base of support is out of the question (at least for now)... sending those rich Moscow kids to be blown in half by a UA drone is not conducive to keeping him in power.
Draftees get coerced into signing a contract as soon as they're out of basic training. Back in USSR they used to dunk people in outhouses until their lungs would start to spasm for air, bringing the f***l matter inside.
We once duct taped an annoying PFC into a portapotty.... that was kind of mean of us... we let him out after like 15 minutes... He was a shithouse lawyer reporting everyone for minor infractions in hopes he would get promoted... It was pretty epic when he pissed hot on a drug test and got sent home.
smhippy
It looks like they just rounded up all the homeless people and local drunks and send them to the front, that's some horrifying efficiency.
grandfalloon
Where there's a whip, there's a way.
leepupjax
This is so sad.
Mallococcis
Wow, that reminds me when my platoon had joint training with 'Murican soldiers. It was a fucking mess...
AntiProtonBoy
It’s fucking sad.
Typical fucking Russians, using the vulnerable as cannon fodder.
Bigblackdick69
This explains why Trump wants Ukraine to stop defending themselves. Putin knows he has no army left and doesn't want to be embarrassed anymore
ZySoua
While I do despise Russian army cruelty and all, many of those people are really being tricked into the army or taken by force from streets while being arrested and etc. Russian government cruelty right now is just peak tyranny. More meat for the meat grinder, no matter what meat. One thing I heard also - they are massively conscripting mostly in East and Siberian regions, the most backwater regions far from capital. The losses there are biggest for all the regions.
DeepThought42
What about all the magats who said they would rather be a communist than a democrat? Send them to the Russian front lines
Dellaaa
Those poor fuckers are walking dead. Saw a dude so drunk he could hardly walk throw down his gun pick up the Russian flag and walk onto open field to get shot. Video from Russian side in Reddit. They have to know what's going to happen don't they?
bxwf5rfbvt2718
Over a million Russians have already been killed and their own country doesn’t even give a shit. No outrage, no sadness from the families. What is mentally wrong with these people. Imagine if we had a smaller population and a million people died. Nuts
suiseiseki
Zzzinthevalley
honestly this is just sad.
popeyeNL
I feel bad for these guys. Cannonfodder
Bekador
Shanghaiing technique: Make them drunk, make them sign the enlistment while drunk, haul them off. Once in the machinery they cant leave.
KAPTKipper
Hobo Army
Kimsgrim
They're now forcing poor, untrained civilians to go die in soon to be frozen (again) trenches. A lot of these guys will be climbing over their better trained country men who've all but decayed into the ground. Pretty horrific. Though they are the enemy, I rarely see any of them happy or proud to be there.
Fedotia
Rooskie canon fooder nowadays are just murderhobos.
Murderers from prison pardonned and given a gun, hobos grabbed off the street by the police then drugged or punched until they sign that slavery contract with the cash prize and salary often stolen by the policemen.
OldSchoolNewRules
NachoPete
Russia could have been great but it never has been.
vladrichdemaclant
It didn't even "could have". Russia is an imperialist fake colonizer country that even stole it's name from the real Rus/Rusyns/Ruthenians in the 17th century just to have an excuse to wipe out all the other eastern European Slavic identities. Their real name is Muscovites and they are on of the few last colonialist countries ... still destroying the identity of all the occupied nativ nations.
blaghart
It couls have many times in its history, the trouble is every single time it was Russians making the decision. Russia being a place that has a word that means "Better but in the sense that it's worse"
ItsACrazyWorld
Most of russian forces being used have been conscripts or people forced into fighting. They arent real soldiers. They have 0 training and have NO reinforcement or supply lines. This war is literally meaningless just like vietnam, korea and the middle east. Just a bunch of old dudes who made this happen and the young die for it.
slidewhistlesymphony
Fuck Putin's Russia! Slava Ukraini!
rojelioenescabeche
Seeing any human like this gives me zero satisfaction.
EveryBodyLovesMe
Agreed. This still makes my heart hurt.
Stark1y
The only sane response.
freakdiablo
The only chance for them now is to keep a white flag in hand and hope they don't get shot in the back. The Ukrainians give their POWs a hot meal and a dry cot, which is waaay better than how Russia treats their enlisted men.
DrankTooMuchMead
So the Russian recruiters are just snatching the homeless from the benches.
tentacularfleshscape
And emptying their prisons. Bonus when the veteran rapists can give th front line troops pointers
b0stark
And this is why covfefe is now pushing Ukraine into accepting a pro-russian "peace deal" to cede land and downsize their military.
Rubbishtheresnoway9peopleusetaniwhida
Even buried they are a stain on Ukraine.
🇺🇸🔱🇺🇦
Stark1y
You think they wanted to be there? Jesus Christ, have some fucking humanity
CallMeCourierSix
Sunflowers will grow on their graves, and Russia will wither and die.
onepinksheep
So, those emoji you have there looks like a depiction of a Russian-allied government going up against Ukraine. Which isn't far from the truth.
Rubbishtheresnoway9peopleusetaniwhida
You delude yourself.
Trump is clearly an aberration.
onepinksheep
And yet his administration is full of people just like him.
Cliperinoposterino
Which begs the question, why are all the politicians make Russia look like some kind of existential threat. They can't make few hundreds kms into Ukraine after almost 4 years, and they are trying to make it look like that Putin can somehow take over Europe? Ever since the mid cold war era, the people in charge already knew Russia's a joke, their equipment are leagues behind and with no economy to speak of, but they keep make you feel afraid. Laugh, but then reflect.
Myoron
Have to have some kind of enemy to scare/enrage the people. It'll be China next as the big one.
TheResolver
Nukes, the entire paper tiger that is Russia is about the nuclear weapons. It's all two people standing waist deep in gasoline threatening to use their matches.
ElectricGears
Russia can't actually successfully invade any European countries, but as they proved in Ukraine, they can do a tremendous amount of damage. And they did successfully invade the Crimean peninsula, although that was a much smaller area. Since they have nuclear weapons, an invaded country can't respond with necessary force. They are very much an existential threat outside the battlefield as well. See: the current US president.
Snarklepuff
Remember that military-industrial complex Eisenhower warned about? There has to be an enemy of some real or imagined capacity to justify spending more than 1 trillion per year. These contracts are extremely lucrative. Lockheed Martin, Electric Boat, Boeing, and a surprising number of pharmaceuticals are among the biggest military contracts, all in the 10 billion or more per year range. Imagine if even a third of that went back to the public in terms of services ....
adrianenspired
nukes, yes, but the bigger threat in the last decade or two is their cyberwarfare and mass social engineering.
freshthrowaway1138
They are a threat because they don't care how many of their own people die. What this means is that both Russians and Europeans will die in droves if fighting breaks out. Don't forget that thousands and thousands of Ukrainians are dying constantly just to hold the line. A war of attrition harms both sides of the conflict. And a decapitation strike has to be perfect or Putin will launch whatever nukes he has available.
wetsquirrel
This is deeply disturbing.
YouRadicalizedMe
Fucking orcs
awkungen42
They should probably go and fight the monsters that put them and their friends in that position. I mean, what do they have to lose?
andrewrankin1087360
They look like theybare all 60+.
PrincessWasabi
Theyre like shells of humans
Oddfish
Crushing poverty, addiction, and desperation look the same everywhere. These "soldiers" bear striking similarities to some of the folks you might find living unhoused on the streets of American cities. Trump wants those people rounded up and put in work camps. Russia puts them on the front lines to be mowed down. What they need is medical assistance and housing. But the world is very cruel to the sick and poor.
PrincessWasabi
There’s money to make them soldiers, but no money to treat their illness. Just awful
BillHubbard
They send approx 1000 of them to die, every single day. In groups of 4 to 8 men. They don't have a chance of survival. It's Russia's way to deplete Ukraine's resources.
1Administrator
It is their way to clean unwanted people
BillHubbard
Yeah, I did put that in my post but decided not to leave it in. You are right though.
Centroid
Jesus wept this is fucked up. Any of those guys is so beyond unfit for service. They look like they’re either drunk AF or in the throes of withdrawal. What does it say about the average Russian citizen that this is what it’s come to? How can a regime like that stay in power for so long?
Ardback
They fit for soldiers on the same way that trump is fitted for president.
LespritDeLescalier22
“Disposable” people.
Macetheace50
The Rich take care of themselves and the poor are sacrificed for everything else.
ImHereToGetDownvotes
The Roman Empire lasted from 27 BC to 476AD, then it turned into the Byzantine Empire and lasted until 1453. In short, falls can take some serious time. Russia, as it is today post Soviet Union, has only existed since 1991.
Kyzyl
Governments come and go, but the huge kingdom that is "Russia" has been pretty consistent since even before Ivan III liberated Russia from the Mongols.
Huge tracts of land, controlled from Moscow by a brutal, centralized regime. The government can call itself a Tzarist Empire, or a Soviet People's Republic or Putin's Kingdom. The place has been mostly the same since 1480.
bippityboppitybuttsex
The best the Russian Army had died in February 2022 by being driven down a road into an ambush and the convoy was picked off, piecemeal... their best units were wasted in idiotic operations to take an airport to get an airhead... they failed and the VDV is no more.
JetrelPixelArt
My favorite was some operation they had to paradrop an entire plane full of VDV guys into Mariupol (or possibly Odesa). There was a miscommunication about their position, and the entire group got dropped about 15km away from shore, straight into the Sea of Azov, in full gear.
Not one made it to shore.
bippityboppitybuttsex
So, the only source of that is a youtube video... but, given the Russian military's complete incompetence, I don't really doubt it.... there seems to be an embrace of incompetence and corruption...
If you want, here is Perun's corruption video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9i47sgi-V4
Snooj
Trying to take an airport? What is this, the Revolutionary War?
okiehero
I understood that reference
IhopeUgetwhatUvoted4
Can't think of any great russian victories. They are a zerg force and they don't care about losses.
TheAnswerWasAlwaysMoreLube
I can. But they are also always victories in how they lose, just as many, if not several times more than the defeated army.
bippityboppitybuttsex
The Battle of Berlin.... what the Russians have never given a shit about is force preservation and minimizing casualties...
IhopeUgetwhatUvoted4
Soviet assault: The operation, officially called the Berlin Strategic Offensive Operation, involved over 2.5 million Soviet soldiers, 6,000 tanks, and thousands of artillery pieces and aircraft. The attack was launched from multiple directions by three Soviet fronts.
German defense: The German defenders were a desperate mix of army units, Waffen-SS divisions, police, the Hitler Youth, and the elderly Volkssturm, with limited equipment and manpower.
IhopeUgetwhatUvoted4
Pretty sad if this is your countries finest hour.
BaWitda
There really wasn't any other choice in WWII. The Germans had them badly outgunned in terms of ordnance until almost the end of the war.
That said, their reputation for human wave tactics was vastly overblown. Those tactics were mostly used at the start of the war, when it was the only way to slow down the Wehrmacht's advance. By 1942, they'd largely stopped the practice (though they were still taking horrible casualties, that was again more a result of having rifles against artillery). 1/2
BaWitda
The perception was also partly due to the US Army War College hiring Nazi generals to write the history of the eastern front. After the Berlin Wall fell and we had access to the German records from the front, it turned out they had lied or exaggerated things to cover up their own mistakes (not everything was the fault of Hitler, Zhukov outmanevered them at points). Of course, the modern Russian army is a complete shitshow, but the Red Army in WWII weren't as incompetent as you might think. 2/2
bippityboppitybuttsex
Why are they all leaning weirdly?
notfinelabsMcNastiLives3000
Alcoholism can cause vitamin deficiencies that can worsen gait/balance on top of being drunk.
vladrichdemaclant
Drunk.
ForPriestSake
Types of posture: Health effects, risks, and tipsMedical conditions that can cause people to lean forward include kyphosis, a spinal curvature (like "dowager's hump"), camptocormia (a "bent spine syndrome"), and flatback syndrome (loss of lumbar curve). Neurological conditions such as Parkinson's disease and Progressive Supranuclear Palsy can also lead to a forward-leaning posture due to balance and coordination issues. Other causes can include poor posture, hip problems, and the effects of age
HandoB4Javert
Decades of being constantly drunk on steps and in doorways.
Neednoggle
They look completely fucked up, just wasted
Fedotia
Exhaustion, sleep deprivation, starvation...
Everyonesfavorite
Because they are drunk.
Breadfordloaves
Almost looks like the fentanyl fold
LaffertyDanie1
Dope fiend lean
azgrak1
They are old, tired, and physically broken. Exasperated by being drunk or high. Russia had incurred over 1.3 million casualties so far. Young healthy men are obviously in short supply.
DarkSpyro7
Where is that number from if you don’t mind me asking?
ZySoua
Not just that. Many have fled the country. And they trick many people to conscript with literally any mean they can these days. Got arrested, don't want jail time? Why not get conscripted buddy? Murdered someone/politician corrupted/etc? How about you go to frontlines, buddy, to clean your name? And they have been changing mobilization and conscription laws for past 5 years constantly to fit their needs.
teklanis
Exacerbated.
bippityboppitybuttsex
They actually aren't.
What are in short supply are young healthy men stupid enough to sign a contract... and Russian law prevents draftees from being sent into Ukraine.
billstranger
For now (if that's true)
bippityboppitybuttsex
There have been rumors that Putin was going to change it, but that would make the wealthy in Western Russia have to send their kids to die in Ukraine, and that is the source of Putin's political power... so, as long as he only burns off the rural yokels, no one in the cities gives a shit.
GordonFreeman59
I agree with you but.. Everything that comes after "Russian law" is always very suspicious as Russian law is highly flexible depending on who decides.
bippityboppitybuttsex
They definitely are...
However, tapping into the wealthy youth of Putin's base of support is out of the question (at least for now)... sending those rich Moscow kids to be blown in half by a UA drone is not conducive to keeping him in power.
chammey
Draftees get coerced into signing a contract as soon as they're out of basic training. Back in USSR they used to dunk people in outhouses until their lungs would start to spasm for air, bringing the f***l matter inside.
bippityboppitybuttsex
ew.
We once duct taped an annoying PFC into a portapotty.... that was kind of mean of us... we let him out after like 15 minutes... He was a shithouse lawyer reporting everyone for minor infractions in hopes he would get promoted... It was pretty epic when he pissed hot on a drug test and got sent home.