Identifying a mixture of unknown bacteria

Nov 18, 2017 3:56 PM

ShelbyTheDESTROYER

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I’m a pre-vet student and I took microbiology this year. For our lab practical we were given a vial of two bacteria mixed together and told to find out what they were and we had to do it with no aid from our professor.

The first thing I did was make a streak plate on nutrient agar to separate the unknowns. Each dot is an individual colony started off by a single bacteria separated from the others. The white colony is different than the clearish one. One of these colonies was very stinky! I could already tell what it was by the smell!

The next step was to make a gram stain of each of the colonies. The first being the white colony. Gram stains will make gram + bacteria purple and gram - bacteria red under the microscope. As you may be able to tell, the white colony consisted of many tiny, purple and round bacteria. Purple indicates gram + and round indicates a cocci. That bunching pattern is also indicative of staph aureus but I couldn’t just go by that!

My other colony was a gram - rod. Meaning it was red and, well, shaped like a rod. I didn’t get a quality picture through the microscope though.

Aftermath of the gram staining had me looking like a gram positive bacteria for a week!

After that gram stain I knew one of the colonies was gram + so I put them both on mannitol salt agar for a day and observed the results.

Mannitol salt agar is an agar used to grow gram positive bacteria and turns yellow when acids are being produced. I mislabeled this and switched the bacteria around. On the left you can see little growth occurred but it is yellow, this is because I’m not perfect and got a mixed sample from my nutrient plate. This is the gram - mixed with the staph aureus or staph epidermis.

At this point I knew I either had staph aureus or staph epidermis. Both grow on mannitol salt agar, but only staph aureus makes it yellow. Hmmmmm! But I couldn’t prove it yet!

The final step to proving the first bacteria was staph aureus was by performing a coagulase test. In this you expose the bacteria to fibrinogen and if a coagulant forms (which it most definitely did!) you have staph aureus! Yay my first bacteria is now known!

Here is a picture of my growth plate after letting it grow some more. You can see certain spots had spread out because I collected bacteria from them and they continued to replicate afterwards in the incubator.
But now I need to focus on the stinky clear colony...

I knew the clear colony was gram negative but put both colonies on MacConkey’s agar. This agar selects for gram - bacteria and lactose fermenters will grow pink on it. As you can see, our clear colony LOVED it and completely took over! And it was pink! This ruled out pseudomonas (another stinky bacteria), shigella, and salmonella, but, left E. coli. I knew my next step.

I put the clearish colony on Eosin Methylene Blue agar, EMB for short. This agar tests for lactose fermentation which can by signified by a metallic green sheen on top of the colonies. Lactose fermentation is something that E. Coli is known for, that and stinking. I knew it was E. Coli all along because of the unique smell but now I had proven I was correct!

I had so much fun in this class and I hope some of you have learned something from this process I did ^^ if you have any questions I’d love to chat. I am seriously considering going into microbiology now after this!

Completely unamused cat tax

I’m a vet that graduated in 1015, feel free to message me if you ever want to chat about vet life or school apps

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Well this has been informative and quite cool! Thanks!

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Been there done that. Congrats on correctly identifying your culture.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

You have really long fingers. And science is cool.

8 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

I noticed this too.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Why aren't you wearing PPE!?!?

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 3

Knew a retired bio weapons guy that gave me some sound advice if I ever got into this kind of science. (1)

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

"Everything is at least a level 3 hazard until proven otherwise." (2/2)

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

8 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

Pfft. Amateur. You drink it, wait to get sick and let the doctor tell you what you've got.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Except most likely nothing would happen xD maybe some irregular poops but your immune system could probably fight them off

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Is this process why it takes 99768 hours to get test results back at the hospital? Still cool tho, +1

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

It’s a lot of waiting. You could plate bacteria and have to wait 24 hours for them to grow before plating them again and more waiting.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Yes, and is also why PCR is such a huge leap forward for diagnostics.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I work at VWR, which supplies a lot of that stuff, and I really enjoyed watching what they are used for ???? thank you

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Hardy Diagnostics here!!!

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Woohoo! We sell your stuff I think

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You definitely do ???? how awesome!!

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

As a lab safety officer WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOUR GLOVES

8 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 3

One frequently uses fire when dealing with microbes. You don't want your gloves to melt to your skin if you get too close to the fire.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 5

Source: taken lab classes and worked in a microbe lab. Specifically told to NOT wear gloves for some things.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 4

if you are in danger of melting your gloves, you are doing it wrong

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Just relaying what my profs have told me

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

THANK YOU! Besides protecting yourself, gloves prevent contamination of the sample

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

MLT here, that picture of the Gram staining. Should've washed the slide longer. There's still red mixed in the field.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I was scared to overdo it ^^” thank you though!

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Nah, once the purple is on and has been fixed, it's not coming off. I've had many a slide ruined because I didn't wash long enough.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

So the red is from not rinsing the saffranin enough? And not from rinsing with alcohol for too long before the saffranin?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yeah. Or you let it sit on the slide too long. 60 seconds soak, ten second rinse. Anything more and you risk getting wrong results.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I was always told that staining slides was equal mixture of artform and procedure.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

What do you mean "white colony"

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

you see the little dots? One is kinda clear and the other more white?

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That was a very literal answer to my joke. I approve.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Oh that’s embarrassing xD I thought you were genuinely confused! My B

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

If only I'd known the job I do everyday could get so many points

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

People think it’s interesting! Also I’m jealous of you!

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

No IMViC test? Enteropluri Tube? Extracellular Enzyme? Blood Agar? Nitrate Reduction?

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

If you can figure out ID with 2 tests, why do 8? (Presumably student knew what the potential candidates were)

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I could have used blood agar but I don’t know about the other things.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

IMViC is a set of tests (indole, methyl red, vogues-proskauer, citrate) used for ID'ing various coliforms

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I don’t think we even had access to those. We never learned about them in any of the earlier labs :(

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That is understandable. In my own Micro lab we did a lot of tests when in actuality I identified my unknown right off the EnteroPluri tube

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

But, no great loss. Biochem tests like those are becoming "old school" compared to current techniques.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

When I taught we still did them, mostly because they're quick and easy (MR test is "add drops of methyl red to tube" for example")

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

your sterile technique is terrible and I would never willingly allow you to operate in a lab

8 years ago | Likes 27 Dislikes 8

I would be immediately tossed from my micro lab if I didn't wear gloves while handling bacteria. They're not dangerous, but bad habits are.

8 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 1

Maybe you wouldn’t but I had no contaminants and practiced aseptic technique. Sterilized everything and cleaned everything afterwards.

8 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 8

Gloves were not required to wear because the bacteria was not dangerous so I didn’t wear them but they were provided.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 11

S. aureus is definitely pathogenic, if you got it into a cut or any orifice you would have a nasty staph infection, your instructor should1/

8 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 1

2/ have required gloves

8 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

You wouldn’t be able to tell if it was contaminated since S Aureus is a common flora of the skin and may have overwhelmed the sample

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

your plates might be fine, but what about your gram stain reagent covered hands?

8 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

The bacteria had already been killed by heat fixing before that so no bacteria would have gotten on me. Crystal violet is the dye used...

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 6

But is not inherently dangerous.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 5

Just to let you know.. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26613989

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Crystal violet teleports around micro teaching labs. It ends up everywhere, regardless of how careful you are. It is a simple fact of life.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Congratulations on putting up with the smell of Agar... That shit is bad.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Agar itself doesn't smell like much. Its the stuff mixed in that smells like wet dog food and spoiled milk. And the growth smells like poo!

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

S. epidermidis*

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

My phone autocorrected that :p

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Where do you study? I'm doing Genetics and Micro in NZ

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I study animal science and chemistry in Georgia ^^

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Oh awesome! You'd do well here, Massey is really competitive with vet training so their animal sci is on point.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Do you all have a lot of farms on campus? My college literally has the biggest campus on earth and a lot of it is cow pastures

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Or B), throw it in a sequencer to sequence the 16s DNA, BLAST it, and out pops the list of what's in there. Getting lots cheaper than it was

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

It's going to be several years before it's at vet-desk level though, for typical tests. One example of a firm offering these:

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yeah but student micro labs still teach the old school methods. May be becoming redundant, but its good fundamentals.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Absolutely, and it's good practice.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

+1 for the science 'Stang

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

My unknown was E Coli when I took micro. I incorrectly guessed Yersinia Pestis. Lab tech smiled and told me they don't hand out The Plague.

8 years ago | Likes 42 Dislikes 0

Maybe they should

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Haha yeah Y. Pestis wasn’t even an option! Thankfully they gave a list of possible bacteria to us ^^

8 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

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8 years ago (deleted Dec 1, 2017 7:13 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

Pox is not something you’d be able to grow on an agar since it’s a virus and not a bacteria.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Pic of the Mustang? Just because

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

his name is Richard :)

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

pffft "Dick"

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

;)

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Oh yes. That hit the spot

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

School, mustang and good looking yard?

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Everything is cheaper in Alabama xD

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Medical Micro (human ) here. Not sure how different it is for vets, but we'll usually just plate straight to BAP and MAC and skip the (1/?)

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

These days it's all just straight to MALDI-TOF

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Oh yeah, if the lab can afford it. They're just now validating at my current job. Such a great machine, though.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I think its a shame really to see such a enjoyable/rewarding field being taken over by machines though. Super expensive too

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

There's still a place for knowing biochemicals. But Maldi does take an entire day off of identifying at times. It's a good initial screen.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Nutri agar. From here, anything suspected gram pos gets catalase to rule staph v strep. Staph get coag neg v positive, staph get 2/?

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Tested based on how they react on the blood agar (hemolysis), which leads to 6 groupings of strep. For the gram neg, we start 3/?

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

With anything NLF and run an oxidase. NLF and ox pos is usually pseudomonas while ox neg usually is proteus providencia, 4/?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Portabella (also swarm on BAP). For the Lactose fermenters, run Indole/oxidase. Indoor pos, oxidase neg is usually e coli, 5/?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Morganella, not portabella*. Phone dislikes bacteria

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

This was really cool to read! Thanks for elaborating!

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Any other LF you'll have to run a few more diff tests to determine. This is obviously only a general road map just for gnb/gpc, but 6/?

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

@Saratron44

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Microbio prof here: clear from 1st sentence that you have THE trait needed to become a scientist: innate curiosity. Happy to talk more OP.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 3

This is the first class I’ve taken and immediately fallen in love with. Any tips for how to find a career in it?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

1/2 Both replies here are legit and should be your next step. Things to consider:

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

If you're at a university, get a lab gig. Email professors and just say "I want experience, anything I can do?" They love free workers.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I taught intro micro lab for years, and nothing matters more on a resume than research lab experience. Even washing glassware, its worth it.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

2/2 1) do you like "doing" science (working with hands in lab), 2) ok with failure? (>80% of expts fail).

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

As a nearly graduated vet I really guessed for the Pseudomonas on the stinky one. Dog ear smell. ;) We once found Y. pestis though. O_o

8 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

Yikes

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Oh wow! I’ve noticed our pseudomonas grew green on nutrient agar in the class. I don’t know if it always does though?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

almost always turns green on Mac agar, and if you leave it long enough it turns like a deep forest green

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

There are many species of pseudomonas. I use pseudomonas florescens for my work and it's yellow ish but glows under UV :D

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It depends on the pigments the given pseudomonas produces. Some also have metallic shine on them, while for others only clue is the smell.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Pseudomonas often has a green-ish hue that I've been told, yes.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Congrats on vet school though! I don’t think I’ll make it in xD

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It's a harsh yet beautiful life. My own temperament ruined it for me, so I will not be working in the field. Make sure you can handle it. :)

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I already fucked up my grades too much to be considered I think. My advisor said 3.5 min gpa and I’m a 3.1 :c

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Awww... Well I wasn't great, but I got in anyway. Eventually you'll get it, I promise!

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

What did you find the Y. pestis in?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Fellow student's cough. :') You had to cough on the petri. We went to him and said "Dude, we have good news and we have bad news."

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Whaaaaaat. What country was this in. I've found N. meningitidis in sputums before but that's next level.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The Netherlands. Teachers weren't worried - you can definitely grow a colony off a single one on an agar, but a single one won't matter 1/2

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

2/2 much in terms of causing the plague with modern hygiene and living conditions. That's what we were told then, anyway.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I don't care what you are doing you should always always always wear gloves. Day 1 of lab safety.

8 years ago | Likes 156 Dislikes 4

I would question your professors ????

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Day 1 of lab told me not to not wear gloves. If it's a BSL-1 lab, proper sanitation is followed, and non-essentials are away, it's safe.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

But I'm talking about E.coli in this case. With unknown bacterias you probably should

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 3

username checks out

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

As a Butler this was also day one of my training.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Hand jobbist, same deal. My workplace also smelled like ass.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Well, when you plate bacterias, you don't really need to use gloves, especially when you work in sterile conditions i.e gas burner and EtOH

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 3

I don’t know why we weren’t required to in our lab honestly. If it was a bio class we would have had to but it was animal science :p idk

8 years ago | Likes 29 Dislikes 9

Don't be a dumb medical student and wear lab equipment! You are responsible for yourself and others. No one needs to tell you.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 6

They were probably just mutants that could only grow on select media making it impossible to actually infect you! Have fun in your class!

8 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

There are plenty of bacteria that you could lick a petri dish full of without getting sick. But you don't, because bacteria can mutate.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

BSL-1 possibly?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Worked in a micro lab cleaning/sterilizing. Girl didn’t wear gloves and ended up with ring worm from the vet classes in the lab not worth it

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Any time you touch bacteria, gloves and proper lab saftey should be used. lol that's cool though. I did the same thing in my microbio class

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

Because if you pass your hand too close to the flame, melted latex is far worse than a singe.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You want ebola, op? Because this is how we get ebola.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

you cant ALWAYS wear them,sadly,if your lab is shit + wont provide nitrile gloves. i have a SEVERE latex allergy. so i just went w/o a lot

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Latex gloves are the worst. They go bad super fast, are all gross when you take them off, and royalty such as yourself are allergic.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Actually as a micro student, one of our lectures wouldn't wear gloves (unless he had an open wound) cause 1) you can clean your hands 1/2

8 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

obviously it depends on the bacteria you're working with, but S. aureus is a BSL2 pathogen and you should wear gloves when handling it.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

2/2 better then cleaning gloves. 2) if using a flame, if you accidentally pass your hand over it hurts less then removing melted latex

8 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

I'm a micro Prof, and gloves don't help much since students don't remove them properly. It's much better to wash your hands thoroughly.

8 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 4

That was my professor’s view on it. That’s actually why my hands are so dry is from washing so often

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

It's your job to teach the students how to properly remove gloves. True, you can wash off bacteria but gram stain is toxic.

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

True, that is my job, so I teach them that. Crystal violet and safranin aren't very toxic to humans, so purple fingertips won't kill you.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Crystal violet is a carcinogen. Of course is won't kill them today, but it will contribute to their cancer in 50 years.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Also the bacteria aren't pathogenic strains and are safe. I was most upset that both bacters were on the same test plates. Her prof effed up

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 3

My micro prof always pointed out that bacteria can mutate, and what was safe when you plated it isn't guaranteed to be safe in culture.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

A good point. I think it's more about a proper respect for bacteria than any real danger. Someday you might have to culture something scary

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Actually the general rule of thumb now in micro labs is not to wear gloves, as your finger are more sensitive so you know if you touch some

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 6

According to whom? I have not heard this anywhere.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Ive worked in a couple of micro labs and they've all had similar policies that gloves are not needed for low level classification bacteria

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

How do people get around the risk of sample contamination...(besides powerful soap and scrubbing)

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

ive been fortunate to work in highly automated labs so its less of an issue, but even with manual work the youare more aware and cautious...

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I worked in a lab and our bacteria had antibiotic resistance markers (the plates had antibiotics that would kill of any other bacteria)

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Tube full of mysterious bacteria, better not use gloves!

8 years ago | Likes 193 Dislikes 4

Not even just for safety, but to ensure you're not contaminating the culture.. OP just identified dirty hand bacteria today

8 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 2

CDC agent that helps cause the next Netflix series.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Meh. The bit that I would have definitely used gloves for is the staining.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Well we knew the possible bacteria and they weren’t dangerous xD

8 years ago | Likes 65 Dislikes 16

S aureus can be a pathogen. Certain strains of e coli are highly pathogenic, such as e coli O157H7 (which causes bloody diarrhea).

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It's good to develop save habits. Also, gloves don't just protect you, but the cultures you are working with.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Doesn't matter. You should always use appropriate PPE in a lab. Safe habits are good habits

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You could still contaminate the samples with your hands.

8 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

PPE works both ways. Protects the sample from you and vice versa. How you work in a lab without gloves is beyond me.

8 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

The aseptic technique my lab taught was to keep a Bunsen burner lit near by and flame your instruments and test tubes between samples.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

You're supposed to do that in a micro lab. You're supposed to do that in addition to PPE and not as a replacement for it.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

They alter the DNA and take out the dangerous bits while leaving it still clearly identifiable.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 8

So said Jeffrey Dahmer at his trial.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Heh. +1

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That's sounds like a lot of unnecessary effort. Are you sure?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

They do not. That would be horribly expensive

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

No, you take a couple cells of E. Coli or whatever bacteria, take out the tiny gene that produces toxins, they reproduce like motherfuckers

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Within hours, and they sell them to schools so students can work with them safely. How do you think undergrads/students in biology work with

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Right?! We had gloves, goggles, and a lab coat in all micro labs.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

We don't wear gloves when reading cultures. Apparently that's ok because you can see what you're dealing with n wash it off if you touch it.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I have never used goggles or typically even a lab coat in micro labs, and you never use gloves if you are using a Bunsen burner.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You are right about the gloves for Bunsen burner work. Always lab coat and goggles though. Don't want bacteria on your clothes...

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Clothes can be washed and idk *how* you'd get anything in your eyes. I've only worn goggles when dealing with caustic chemicals.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I think it's good practice to wear goggles. Someone could drop something that may splash or shatter or overheat/shatter glass on a burner.1

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

And yes clothes can be washed, but are they always going to get removed and washed before you have to go eat or drink etc.?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

How do you learn to determine bacteria by smell? I have heard of this before, but not sure how people go about it?

8 years ago | Likes 345 Dislikes 1

You are aware that stuff like Pus in the body and Feces are filled with smelly bacteria? You'll learn to love it just like the lab assistant

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

could you tell a dog from a horse by smell alone? If you ever had a sweaty stinky leather watch strap, that's probably pseudomonas.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

You know when you smell shit that bacteria notice how piss smells different to shit

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Enough time in lab its not an empirical thing more gut instinct

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Experience. Some bacteria have a very distinct smell, but this can be misleading as the smell is just the result of metabolites

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Some bacteria produce smell. However, its not accurate diagnostics since people experience odor differently. For me E. coli smells piss.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Small heads-up: smelling bacteria from patient samples might pose a serious health risk. Source: engineer degree in microbiology

8 years ago | Likes 32 Dislikes 1

I don't think @op is huffing the samples

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

This used to be standard routine, at school I've been taught what the different smells of certain strains are.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I mean noticing the smell is different from snorting a line off the plate.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I know just random curiosity! =D

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I worked in a BSL2+/3 lab and was always confused when people talked about the smell of cultures, since we exclusively worked in a hood.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Practice

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Basically you smell it, then you say hmmm that smells different to that.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Proteus swarms and has a horrific smell that drifts throughout the lab

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Learn to love the smell of bleach. Lovely clean bleach.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

No. 1st its hazardous and 2nd human's can percieve smells differently or not at all. eg. 1/4 people can't smell cyanide.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Pasteurella sp. (sort of smells like snot), Eikenella corrodens (Bleach) and Haemophilus (Musty) Can all be presumptively Id'd by smell.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Ecoli has a VERY unique smell. Its hard NOT to instantly recognize ecoli once you are used to it

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Pseudomonas aeruginosa smells like grapes and microaerophilics smell like butterscotch. Yummy.

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E. Coli just stinks. After you've worked with it you recognise the smell. My lab has fish gut microbiota that stinks even worse though

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Is there a specific fish gut bacterium that makes the smell? I’ve never thought about fish gut microbiota being different from land animals

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Not for everyone. People experience it differently. I think it smell cat pee while a pathologist I met said she liked the smell.

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Just be glad you don't work is parasitology. I resent even walking through their building

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You can taste some bacteria as well. My RA cheated & tasted bc she thought it was something else, turned out to be strep & she got sick

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DO NOT TASTE BACTERIA INTENTIONALLY EVER!!

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They did have taste labs before but there's a reason you're instructed not to taste during an ID test!

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Microbiology: DO NOT LICK THE SCIENCE

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Some bacteria straight up smell like ass. Normally these are bacteria that would be living in the gut anyways. Pseudomonas smells like...

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PLEASE CAN YOU POST A PICTURE OF YOUR MUSTANG NOTHING IS MORE INTERESTING THAN THAT RIGHT NOW

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please don’t hurt me o_o

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Thank you

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The good kind of ass orrr...??

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Not good ass

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Cuz a freshly washed shitter smells and tastes great!

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About an ass too far, there.

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our prof told us pseudomonas smelled of mown lawn and Proteus m. of chocolate. I think ps. is more perfumish and Proteus smells like ass.

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Ass bacteria smell like ass kind of makes sense.

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I was giggling and told my boyfriend that some bacteria smells like ass. He's curious as to how you know what ass smells like lol.

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Well... I have an ass and have pooped before. That’s how I know xD

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Weird grapes and tortillas. E. Coli smells kinda like stinky breath to me. Don’t go by smell alone when identifying though! It can be a hint

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Pseudomonas smells exactly like linden flowers in spring

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I found out my mother had MRSA by smell. Was pissed she left an infection go that long.

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Always know where's there's Proteus in the lab.

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it also depends on the media. E. coli on LB is mildly stinky, E. coli on lactose rich media positively reeks of sour milk.

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Damn the media turning our E. coli's sour.

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Also don’t purposely inhale bacterial odors, it can be dangerous xD

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It's more like a whiff than a sniff :)

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Wafting is the best practice but only if you have to. Inhalation is indeed dangerous.

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A when taste testing ecoli will taste bitter. Like the bitter taste of regret or hindsight. The after taste may last afew days.

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hehehehe

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But will it get me out of lab?

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Sometimes it can get you IN to a lab...

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Food poisoning due to E. Coli can possibly get you out of lab >.>

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Why are you not wearing gloves in the lab???

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Alot of times its easier to handle equipment and chemicals using your bare hands/less likely to make mistakes

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really no need to glove when handling most specimens. just good hand hygiene

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THIS

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Wearing a lab coat and gloves when working with fluids is a must. You dont need gloves to touch agar plates.

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Apparently my school likes to live dangerously? It wasn’t required so I didn’t think anything of it at the time. Not dead yet >.>

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any time you handle materials you should have gloves on. Especially broths and agars, because bacteria grow at such high concentrations

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I did this exact lab in my undergrad. By not wearing gloves, you also run the risk of contaminating the samples and growing your own flora

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That’s bullshit. I’m sorry. I work in a clinical laboratory and if we’re caught doing that, JCAHO and CAP will shut us down.

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Clearly the non-glove wearers know better than JCAHO and CAP. Jesus Christ the comments on here.

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In a clinical lab you are a service provider - lax hygiene endangers patients. In a science lab lax hygiene only causes yourself more work.

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In the school environment, they're prolly counting on only working with known specimens.

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Maybe they think you were smart enough that you don't need to be told something so obvious.

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Well she said specifically that we aren’t required to wear gloves and the veterinarian/professor never did so I thought it was normal?

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As a microbiology undergrad: for certain things it's very normal. I've worked with possible pathogens without using gloves. Just because 1/X

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It could contain pathogens (a door handle is likely more dangerous) but the risk is very low. For various reasons it could be required 2/X

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Definitely not normal. In most micro labs, you'd get reprimanded.

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Yes it is absolutely normal to not wear gloves. Especially near a flame, or do you want skin grafts?! Bsc + PhD in microbiology, so I know.

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It sounds like a gen micro class so they're probably working with mutants that can only grow on select media.

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Plus gloves aren't just for your protection, they also help stop sample contamination

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