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Gotta fight back
Kids picking on other kids will always be a thing. We're officially turning boys into little girls in this country. Teach them to stand up for themselves not by telling but by throwing back. You hit someone that bullies you once, they leave you alone. There's a reason they only prey on weak people they don't like resistance so fight back.
N3m3cis
Why not both? It's unlikely that we'll get rid of bullying anytime soon, so why not teach kids to defend themselves and others, and not bull
LyndonMoller
I feel like this should be a puffin
srsfaceI8C
Why am I not surprised a pothead has a shitty opinion? "Kush before people."
smarmageddon
My bully used to pin me down and make me eat grass. Jokes on you sucka, I like grass.
IfLeftUntreated
I agree with the premise, but using "girl" to insult a boy is bullshit. Girls/women are just as tough as boys/men, often more so.
piscesdreamer
"We're officially turning boys into little girls in this country"
BohemianRhapDaddy
Fighting is, and should always be, the last option. There's a chance that it'll solve the problem for that moment, but not long term.
skydivingbigfoot
Being able to take a verbal punch is, in my opinion, just as important as being able to give a physical punch.
CarpeDizzle
And as important as knowing when not to throw a punch
ElPoloDiablo
"Officially turning boys into little girls" as though weaker kids didn't exist in the past and everyone defended themselves. Bullshit.
findlesticks
I was always punished for defending myself, bullies never got punished themselves
TMStage
Staff rely on the pecking order to keep the peace. That and they don't want the parents of the bullies to show up and fuck everything up.
inevitableban
I want my kids to have a strong sense of justice. Be kind but if someone needs defending then you step up and defend 'em.
chroniclunacy
Teaching a kid that fighting is the absolute last resort for good people is not the same as "raising a victim".
DrivingTheBus
My little girl is a black belt. What's wrong with being a little girl?
Darrions
Kids need to know that bullying is bad, that they should not do it nor let it happen. It's not only protecting yourself at school 1/2
Darrions
It's also friends and the ones that are too weak to fight back. Don't be these fucks going away without doing anything to avoid risks
AliElkie
I know two kind of guys. Guys who are always getting into fights because they're "just sticking up for themselves" and guys who never (1/2)
AliElkie
get into fights because they know that it's pointless and just leads to more fights (2/2)
SpeakingAsTheDevilsAdvocate
Thiiiiis, ffs. Any day a fight is avoided is a good day.
wsushutin
Cotton wool? That's not right. Cotton comes from a plant and wool from a sheep.
noice06
Yeah we should be wrapping our kids with steel wool
Tkeleth
But then bullies will just carry 9-volt batteries...
Oakshand
Like my father said never start a fight just finish them.
anxiously
I know a few 'little girls' who would fuck your shit up. Don't use that as a measurement of weakness.
kushbeforepeople
I know some girls that could kick my ass as well. That doesn't change a damn thing.
wadatahmydamie
Yeah, the slogan for the women's camp at my gym is "fight like a girl."
Gorgrim
So rather than try to tackle bullying at the root, you'd prefer to fight the symptoms. No wonder bullying will always be a thing.
Rentaldog
Cant you do both? Or would you rather your kid get his shit kicked in while you 'implore' parents to fix the next generation.
Gorgrim
Both is the ideal situation, especially as not every kid will be in a position to fight back.
Rentaldog
Agreed, and agreed. Less bullies, and more people on the sidelines who will stick up for/with friends is how to beat it.
itiscalledaPUPPYyoutwat
Teach them to bite the face off their bully
anxiously
I see what you did there.
acertainlazychosenone
I got that reference
StevesSegallbladder
Self defense is great for anyone; telling kids that bullying others isn't acceptable either. Don't teach your kids being a dick is okay.
kerms
No parent of a bully actually knows their kid is a bully until the school tells them about it. Nobody teaches their kid it's okay to bully.
ITalkAboutGoats
There are absolutely shithead parents that condone this stuff.
kerms
Okay? And? There are exceptions to every rule. Doesn't change anything.
ITalkAboutGoats
Then don't say there is nobody that teaches their kids it's okay to bully.
kerms
Oh so you're caught up on technicalities and semantics. Gotcha.
acertainjenesaisquoi
Fighting back made them leave you alone? You weren't bullied much at school were you OP? That made it so much worse. Every time without fail
KWJester49
I was bullied lots in school, usually verbal, which I ignored. Got physical two different times, I fought back hard, and they laid off.
kushbeforepeople
I was actually, I was held down and peed on once. It sucked. My dad put me in wrestling and I got strong and stopped taking their shit.
DrKipping
Yeah. Seriously. I've managed to escalate the situation and give them impetus to really treat me like shit. Joy.
acertainjenesaisquoi
Ignoring them works best, or just walking away. Hell, fighting back was the cause of three out of four hospital visits.
kushbeforepeople
Sorry to hear that
UbastetLurking
Or teach kids to understand others, bully may be suffering a bad life and can't deal. Breaking the cycle of violence seems a better choice.
UbastetLurking
A simple act of understanding and kindness/violence could potentially effect a person's outlook and effect their treatment of others.
TMStage
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
meatsuite88
Yes. That is important too. But I think OP is talking about once your getting hit. Understanding isn't going to do shit.
UbastetLurking
I've been brutalized.I won't cause another person pain just because I've felt it or pass that cycle to my kids.Non-violence isn't weakness
meatsuite88
What if it's towards your kids? Would you still be non-violent?
ITalkAboutGoats
This.
lifeisapicnic
It doesn't make a boy "a little girl" just because he doesn't want to fight someone. Not everyone manages conflict with violence.
TMStage
Violence is the only language these little shits understand.
TMStage
Beat them bloody and they'll respect you.
kushbeforepeople
Sometimes you don't have a choice.
malachiteopaljasperobsidian
Teach your kids being rude and violent is not okay! Also can we please not say men are turning to girls. That's derogatory on both counts.
TMStage
Take it back to your fucking tumblr blog.
malachiteopaljasperobsidian
I don't actually have a tumblr, and how dare I think it's a bad thing to insult both guys and girls respectively.
kushbeforepeople
Don't be that guy. I was trying to make a point that most girls are more delicate then guys. It's OK that were not the same.
ITalkAboutGoats
He wouldn't have to be that guy, if you weren't that guy first. I thought you advocated for people sticking up for themselves?
followmybunnyjubioninstagram
Why not just use a different example...
m3rcuri4l
Here you are, the voice of reason, and no one is paying attention. Everyone looks at the polarized crazies. This is fantastic.
malachiteopaljasperobsidian
Well, I'm not a guy, and I was actually considering it more from a guys perspective anyway. Like I said, Derogatory on both sides.
redbaronshotsauce
You sound like a sexually frustrated pussy.
ishiishinji
For fucks sake, why do you get downvotes for this? Is it not ok we are not identical? So sick of this sjw wave
didntshootthedeputy
1) I downvoted it because telling boys that they have to be the strong and dominant ones, that they have to have manly interests or they are
didntshootthedeputy
2) pussys, that they can't be sensitive or emotional or weak or they are girls is so fucking harmful to them you can't even believe.
kushbeforepeople
I mean it's not against the law to be weak. Telling someone that being weak is ok is weird advice and crippling. What do I know, I'm sexist
didntshootthedeputy
Emotions don't make you weak. By repressing them the way boys are taught to repress them you are crippling yourself.
Caliban1972
Or you know...teach your kid not to be an asshole at school.
Jes432
Or teach them not to give a fuck about other peoples opinions.
Bebii
I really doubt it's that simple.
notme222
"Not to be an asshole" is the right way to put it. Nobody thinks they're bullying. They're just being a dick to someone who "deserves" it.
Th3Ch33t
If only that worked. Unfortunately, there are too many parents that neglect this or even their children.
Killertortilla
Did you even read the post?
ballq
The crooked nail always gets hammered down first
aptatlas
Good luck. We got assholes raising assholes.
kushbeforepeople
Agreed. Very important too.
PlatyPunch
Every person is a little bit of an asshole, some kids develop the "being an asshole" bit before they get to the rest of their personality
AirplanesgoZoom
The issue is you can't teach everyone else's kids not to be assholes as well.
Plastik
Need to teach them both. They need to be strong but fair. you don't want them to grow up to be shy pussies.
BigDickPodrick
You're making the same mistake as @OP in assuming that it's easy. Sometimes the kid that is told to stand up for themselves [1/2]
BigDickPodrick
ends up finding the line between retaliation and initiation becoming very blurred. They often become the bullies themselves. [2/2]
Plastik
That's why it's strong and fair. You don't want to be that person that rolls over and accepts everything in life. It sucks, I'd know.
Plastik
Can't just accept whatever BS a car dealership will give you. Be able to negotiate a deserved raise. Ect. There are people that will
1CRK
Wow way to spoil back to the future.
DickDastardly404
The thing is: fighting back doesn't work. Who TF told you if you fight back they'll stop? It doesn't work. If the bullying is verbal and 1/2
DickDastardly404
You hit them, you get in trouble for initiating violence, and they'll just bring their mates next time. If you say something nasty back1.5/2
DickDastardly404
It changes nothing, and it will just be perceived as a schoolyard spat. If the bullying is physical, and you fight back, again the 1.75/2
DickDastardly404
Bully will just bring backup next time. My school years were just a constant atmosphere of threat. I was on edge for four years. I 1.875/2
DickDastardly404
Was verbally and physically bullied by different people. I fought back in kind, and i sometimes escalated. It made no difference. I 1.975/2
MydeslyxiasFunnyToMe
The bully at my school was just awful. Turns out his uncle was molesting him, unbeknownst to the parents. So it's not always their fault.
VelstadtTheRoyalAegis
So I get molested AND bullied? Where was my respite? The kids that bullied me, bullied me because of my accent. Because I was different. 1/2
VelstadtTheRoyalAegis
My point being: on the other hand, some kids are just fuckers because they're allowed to be and are never told otherwise. Not all, though.
WalterMatthau
This guy? http://pigroll.com/img/school_bully_not_so_tough.jpg
MetalMil
Wow. That is some bold headline.
MydeslyxiasFunnyToMe
No, different guy. I suspect it happens kind of often.
stoptisbdjdifkfk
What a shallow opinion. -1.
kushbeforepeople
Uh oh did I hurt your feelings? I really hope so.
CitizenDickbag
Wow that sounds like exactly what a bully would say!
ITalkAboutGoats
The sad part is he's probably bullying his own kids for not sticking up for themselves.
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kushbeforepeople
The minute I started being accused of sexism, which is ridiculous, I got confused and then I realized oh I'm talking to feminist moron cunts
kushbeforepeople
who are some of the most irrational miserable people on the planet who bully themselves. They constantly look for ways to snap @ people. So
kushbeforepeople
Once I realized I was having to argue with complete idiots who are always the victim then I stopped being nice. Feminism is a fucking joke
didntshootthedeputy
Telling a boy to man up, to stop being a sissy, to stop being a girl is so fucking harmful to them. Stop being an asshole instead.
TMStage
Or, boys could stop being sissy little girls.
didntshootthedeputy
1) Yeah, what does it matter if they are unhappy, can't properly express their emotions, can't really comfort their children or spouses or
didntshootthedeputy
2) even cry when their parents die. Just as long as they don't act like girls, right?
TMStage
Yeah, pretty much hit the nail right on the head.
didntshootthedeputy
I really hope you are a troll because otherwise I would have to feel sorry for you and that just doesn't sit right.
TMStage
Yeah well, I wouldn't expect a woman/genderqueer/fluid/transdemi-tumblr-kin to understand. Emotions are for the weak.
Shawken
One of my main goals is to teach my kids to be kind to other kids. You don't have to be friends with everyone, but you will be kind.
Magster2004
I'm working on the now with my boys.
elinveronicap
The new Cinderella movie, where her mom tells her to "have courage and be kind"... Now that's advice to last a lifetime.
lGneousMlracIe
And have a full magazine of roundhouse kicks cocked locked and ready rock at all times.
chepeweb
one of my main goals is have no children
lalox30
Then don't comment on a subject like this one cause no one cares about your opinion.You have to be in somebodies shoes to be able to comment
BadBoyBoogieBoarder
RULE #1: Never underestimate your opponent. EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED / Rule#2: Take it outside / Rule #3: Be nice
Monkofthepast
You are the bouncer, I am the cooler.
playkill
excellent response to an aggravated post +1
feeltheice
That's how I was raised, still was picked on until I broke a guys nose
nalewhine
I think it's also important to teach kids not to be bystanders. Teach them to learn how to stand up for other people.
canibFrank
Yes. My 10 year old, when he was about 7 - "If you don't need help; you help somebody else."
Dafirnz
That has zero to do with sticking up for your self.
Shawken
Meant it for them not to become bullies. They are also taught to defend themselves.
iwanttomountndewya
There's been only two times in my life that i looked at someone dead in the eye and said "I. Don't. Like. You." otherwise im super friendly.
CaptainTallPants
I will teach my children never to start a fight...But they will sure as hell end it
TheDrySideOfThePenny
They 'sure as hell' wouldn't end it against me. I would kick the shit out of your kids.
feeltheice
Oh man, standing rule in my house you start a fight dad will finish it you lose a fight dad will teach you to fight better
SayWhatYouMeanMeanWhatYouSay
That's exactly what my dad taught me. Always be polite, but if someone starts a fight you aim to finish it, fast and hard.
SuburbanMeerkat
Yes... And always upvote Tom Hardy pix
redbaronshotsauce
How original.
rainbowcoloredpoop
You can teach them both lessons. They complement each other. Don't bully, be kind and never start the fight, but don't be afraid to hit back
ClassicFrank
They're definetly complementary, I hope you get more upvotes, people needs to understand this.
HoodsBallsOnASkillet
Sound advice from multicolored shit
rainbowcoloredpoop
I do what I can to make the world a brighter and more colorful place
intenseboat
What's wrong with being a girl?
StarBurstExtra
The only people who say this didn't grow up with sisters. Girls are secretly vicious as fuck. I know I was in a few fist fights growing up.
WillKemper
That's not the point, and you know it isn't. Quit trying to make it about something it's not.
MathiasTolerain
I am from a year in the future and writing to thank you for writing this. Boys don't have to punch things to be boys.
XenoHorse
Back then the men were men, the women were men, and the children were men!
DefinitelyNotCera
Nothing. But if you're a man you should act like one.
Some1OnceToldMe
Absolutely nothing. But this is Imgur. Fuck it, this is society.
AnotherMeaninglessUsername
Don't say 'grow some balls', they're sensitive and soft, 'say grow a pussy, because they can take a pounding and keep on going'
AnotherMeaninglessUsername
A friend of mine put this as her yearbook quote, down vote if you want.
155DangerClose
because men are men and woman are woman, notice how no guys who grew up with a rugged childhood want to be little girls?
155DangerClose
if our society as it is, took place of the one that was in the WWII generation. We would have lost the war
FutureVillain
My (then) 3rd grade daughter took out a 5th grade (boy) bully. Inside I was proud. On the outside I was proud. To hell with bullies
LooseyGooseyBrett
Periods.
Some1OnceToldMe
Fair point XD
Rentaldog
Nothing. When you're a girl.
Some1OnceToldMe
Oh, honey...
FrostWight
This guy gets it
LaBix
Their panties never cover or support my genitals. Why are they all so tiny? It is as though they weren't design to house a dick and balls.
ollypops
Genitalia don't determine gender, I know plenty of women w/dicks whose panties cover them. Try shopping OUTSIDE of the toddlers section.
EmberTheWolf
I really want you to be just trolling...
ollypops
Why, because it would make you feel more comfortable in your bigotry?
beansofthunder
Tumblr is leaking again
ollypops
Or you're ignorant. I don't use Tumblr, I use my brain.
kushbeforepeople
Yes it does. If you don't think so you're crazy as hell and probably miserable. End of story. You're to progressive for your own good.
ollypops
I'm far from miserable, but thanks for your concern! Sorry you find progression in humanity so threatening to your personal ideology. ;(
kushbeforepeople
I believe what I've believed my whole life. In the past 10 years things have changed and all sudden I'm suppose to go with it. Something is
ollypops
No it doesn't, gender identity is not how we look on the outside but who we feel we are on the inside. Don't conflate gender with sex.
TheFrenchGirl
Oh, girls are weak. REAL men fight back. If you're bullyed 1 against 10 and you don't fight back, you're obviously a pussy.
tantricpooper
I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees.
TheFrenchGirl
So do I. Last time a man tried to hit me, I was in the kitchen, like a woman should. I also had a pan in my hand. He had 5 stiches.
theDogter
I once fought 7 guys cause 1 slapped my girl. They were the pussies that day.
TheFrenchGirl
Are you bragging you fought men for your girlfriend? Lol, you're pathetic.
theDogter
So I should have let a group of men physically harm the girl I was with? What was the correct action?
ThatRandomCanadian
Take on the biggest one. Throat punch or something. Kids get freaked out when the big guy goes down to the "weak" one. Personal experience.
ThatRandomCanadian
And how often /is/ it "10 against 1"? Usually it's the larger number of guys cheering it on, and one or two doing the actual bullying.
ollypops
Defending bullying tactics? Being a bystander enables the bullying, firstly, and secondly, are you SURE you're Canadian?
ThatRandomCanadian
Acting and enabling are different. I'm also not sure how you got "defending bullying tactics" from what I said.
kapp70
Hey, that is the way a survivalist goes about it. +1 to you.
gazgarygareth
Yes when already outnumbered 10 to 1 attack the strongest foe first... I'm surprised you guys are still alive... -1 each
mthornton91
Societal cues work. Take out the strongest one leading the charge and the others lose confidence.