After meeting thousands of cats as a zoology grad student, I can truly say Otis was a very unique cat.

Oct 6, 2016 1:00 AM

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For starters, he was an impressive 22 pounds of lean muscle mass.

Here he is dwarfing a MacBook Pro.

He spent most of his days hunting intensely, taking frequent naps, and eating 6 cans of food a day.

Researchers estimate that cats only bring 50% of their kills home. Well, Otis brought about 3 kills home a day for 10 years, so one can only imagine the true numbers.

He has brought home every kind of bird, rodent, and small mammal in the area. Some of his most impressive catches include countless rabbits, 2 crows, 3 hummingbirds, snakes, a fish, and a raccoon.

Despite his wild instincts when he is outside, he was a loving cat around people. He would run out of the forest and stop his hunt to come greet you if you ever called his name, even if he was 200 yards away. It was almost as if there were two sides to him struggling to compete. There was his wild side and his domestic side.

He was also incredibly intuitive and seemed to know his place in the world. He was known to roam for miles around the lake we lived on. He owned the territory, multiple neighbors complained that this cat was intimidating their labradors and husky's.

He may have scared off dogs but he also went on runs like a dog.

Eventually the other two cats learned they could go on adventures away from home.

Then the adventures got longer and eventually we walked a few miles every night.

He truly was a cat with an above average influence on the world around him. Now that he is gone the whole ecosystem is changing.

Plot twist, Otis was really a doggo the whole time

9 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 1

A good post on why you raise cats inside, they do too much damage outside. Absolutely beautiful cat.

9 years ago | Likes 55 Dislikes 16

A zoology student, proud of his cats destruction of the local fauna. Interesting.

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

I can relate had a cat named velvet like him she was my queen

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Thanks for sharing! He seemed like an awesome cat

9 years ago | Likes 185 Dislikes 7

"Now that he is gone the whole ecosystem is changing." I'd say recovering. Nonetheless RIP Otis.

9 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 0

He killed that much and you still let him out?

9 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

I've raised over 12 healthy cats and he was the only one that could not be kept inside. Keep in mind that he was born in the wild.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

I'm sorry for your loss, but as a lover of wildlife, cats like this are killing machines that hurt native bird populations.

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

RIP, Otis. We are that much better for having known you.

9 years ago | Likes 315 Dislikes 8

All I got out of this was that your cat caught a fucking raccoon.

9 years ago | Likes 35 Dislikes 3

9 years ago | Likes 356 Dislikes 6

9 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

That was an earth shattering final statement.

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

That's the kind of cat I like. Homicidal sociopaths that like a good cuddle.

9 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 5

Eyy, my taste in women as well, whether I like it or not.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

You were a zoology grad student and you allowed an invasive species to roam free and decimate your local ecosystem?

9 years ago | Likes 90 Dislikes 15

I agree, the havoc that cats wreak is insane!

9 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 7

And fictitious! Dogs kill more than cats, and reflective windows are responsible for more kills than both combined, in terms of birds.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Such a pretty cat

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

A fucking raccoon?! Jesus

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

The soul of a hunter with a golden heart, may he forever be remembered and rest with the cat gods of the cat heaven!

9 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 3

My cat must be vegetarian because she brings me about a dozen flowers a day... And sorry for your loss OP :(

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

I had a cat very much like this when I was growing up. "Gandalf." Horses were afraid of him. Hit twice, shot once, old age got him.

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

And why did Otis die?

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

@op?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

One day he walked into the forest and never came back.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

As much as I like cats, I equally detest how destructive they have been and are to local wildlife!

9 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 3

I just read the whole thing, sorry for your loss

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You should get that pink growth on your face looked at

9 years ago | Likes 67 Dislikes 2

Yeah that's my brother. He went to the doctor to get it checked out and turns out it's just some digital ink. Who woulda known.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm glad someone brought this up. Dude we need to talk about this.

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

I think you mean "the whole ecosystem is recovering."

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

I'm truly sorry & sympathetic for OP's loss, but I am also deeply furious that OP let that beast devastate it's local ecosystem.

9 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

"Devastate" lol he lived in the wild PNW in a bustling ecosystem. The beast killed a lot, but nothing compared to the local predators.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

You yourself said that you've noticed the ecosystem rebounding. I am truly sorry for your loss, but I also rest my case.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

"Harassed local dogs". Surprised it wasn't one dead cat.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

A cat that big & tough, I'm not. Plus, most dogs are taught self-control, whereas people just laugh & film cats no matter their behavior.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I used to have a German Shepard and after she passed away all sorts of animals would start poking around my yard and in the windows.

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Same when I was growing up. She killed a squirrel once and that was it, but the others knew not to mess with her.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It's Mister from the Dresden Files!

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

No, he has a tail and his eyes are just green, not green-gold. Probably a littermate or an actual Malk.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Plus one full tail

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It's just his young years :D

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Based on the numbers provided I came up with 16,425 kills in 10 years. Whoa.

9 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 1

Ottis is scarier than navy seal sniper.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Not to mention probably quieter.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

3 a day is 50%, so 6 a day, 365.25 days a year (including leap years) for 10 years. I got 21,915.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Sounds like Otis was a ecosystem all by himself.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The numbers provided seemed extremely exaggerated.

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

I agree, even for such a magnificent'looking beast.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 3

I agree.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

10,950 (assuming 3 kills daily for 365 days x 10) 21k if 6 a day (cats only bring home 50% etc) but I'd prefer to go off the definite

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

An utterly laughable figure. All of my cats bring home prey maybe once a week.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

How many do you have? Or, how many would make an Otis!

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I have two currently, and I have had a total of five.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I don't think even farm cats have that high a total.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

of all the souls i have encountered, otis's was the most.....human

9 years ago | Likes 1021 Dislikes 9

He reminds me so much of a cat that roamed our neighborhood in KY. I named him char. I hope char is OK. RIP Otis, sweet boy.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

*yuman

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

You were blessed to have been chosen be such a wonderful cat.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Otis you are and shall always be my friend.

9 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

Star Trek reference only made me cry harder

9 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 3

I didn't

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Star trek. Or you could google the quote

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I hope Otis is redding your comment

9 years ago | Likes 27 Dislikes 0

from the way @op wrote about otis, it just felt appropriate

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

9 years ago | Likes 84 Dislikes 0

a bit insensitive considering that is the scene is where he KILLS his pet, but i understand what you are trying to convey

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 21

He did not kill his daughters pet. He waited until the dog was no longer the same dog and sedated him beforehand to ensure the least amount

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

of pain.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I knew exactly what I was doing, no I kid, I kid, I joke with you. P.S. GO GIANTS

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

SF Giants??

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yep

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Nah GO CUBS!!!

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It's on! May the best Giant win.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

No one mentions the hundreds of small Native animals that Otis massacred for Kitty Sports.

9 years ago | Likes 183 Dislikes 12

Sure Human - you're one to talk.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

This is also a valid point.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I love cats but they wreak havoc on the native species. They're no longer hunting to survive (especially with 6 cans a day). And OP says 1/2

9 years ago | Likes 55 Dislikes 12

2/2 they are a zoologist?! If you're going to be irresponsible like that and let your cats wander off, I hope Otis was at least chipped.

9 years ago | Likes 47 Dislikes 10

Also my first thought. NZ faces real issues regarding native fauna because of cats and dogs.

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

"No one". It's hard to keep them in sometimes. One of my uncles cats has evaded every single fencing attempt. It's ridiculous

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 4

Downvoted this post because psycho cat here killed at least 10,000 animals in his lifetime. And it's owner was a zoologist. Is that irony?

9 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 7

Imagine this: In some areas of the world, this doesn't matter.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

Exactly ! I have an outdoor cat but mine hasn't bring anything home for years and I never see her hunt anything that's why I allow it. 1/2

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Or maybe she's too smart to show it to me... 2/2

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

The absolute ignorance of some cat owners makes me so angry. Domesticated cats are introduced, native wildlife is not. *inhale, exhale*

9 years ago | Likes 31 Dislikes 8

So what are we to do? Have you tried keeping an outdoor cat inside for the rest of its life? Should we just put our little killers down?

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 19

How about just... Not owning a cat? I mean, it's a nice luxury, but owning a cat isn't a necessity. Once your cat dies, don't get another.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Ignorance like this is the main issue. Wanting a cat > protecting wildlife, in their opinion. Train it to be indoors from day one and viola

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Put a bell on your cat's collar if you seriously can't find a way to keep your cat indoors.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

As a child we had about 6 entirely indoor cats. Happy + long lived. Our 20 outdoor cats? Not so much...all vets say keep indoor cats.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

We're not supposed to have thousands of "outdoor cats" roaming around and killing birds and small mammals for fun at all.

9 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 3

And your proposal to those of us who do?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 9

You should at least be aware of the fact that cats fuck up ecosystems everywhere. I can't tell you what to do, decide for yourself ...

9 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

Honestly I'd love to know what you think I should do about my monstrous rescue.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 10

Meh, it's too late if your cat is already used to it. I'm just saying people should not let more cats outside to fuck with nature.

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 3

You retrain them. You don't let them outside. My cats are ALL rescued from the outdoors, and guess what? Now they're indoor cats. I get 1/?

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Only let it out by itself occassionally and never very far without you.

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

Are we not going to address the fact he took down a fucking racoon?

9 years ago | Likes 2326 Dislikes 10

The Wyatt Earp of cats... him and his sidekickcat after racoon fight: http://imgur.com/QNVLDB7

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Right?! This is one BAMF of a cat.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

My cat Einstein did once as well.. He is much smaller then Otis, he came home covered in blood, neighbours found the racoon the next morning

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

My cat did that as well. he managed to kill it and the only injury he got was a tiny scar on his nose. To be fair hes a pretty huge cat.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Let me introduce you to Timber

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I had to read that bit again because I was sure it said 'cow' and not 'crow.' At this point it may be 'cow.'

9 years ago | Likes 132 Dislikes 1

The legend grows. It definitely was a cow.

9 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

Does this look like the face of mercy?

9 years ago | Likes 69 Dislikes 0

No! The answer's no...

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Asking the real questions around here

9 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 1

If my cat brought home a raccoon I'd have it stuffed and made into scratching post/cat gym. I would tell that story for decades.

9 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 0

Otis probably larger stuff, just couldn't be bothered to drag it back home.

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Like a human or a moose?

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Both at the same time

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Blindfolded while tied to a chair?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Most likely a weakened or small raccoon, but as other people said, this cat was massive.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Seriously. We had an active, "hunter" cat, and raccoons would beat him up.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

We found my old cat declawed in the front. Lived til 24, took out coons, possums, and any other critter in his prime

9 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

My cat is only half coon and she has neatly eviscerated coons before. She is an adorable murder machine.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

My boyfriend's cat Shadow does this a lot, I didn't believe it until I saw it the sounds are terrifying, most impressive part Shadow is 16.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I swear every other person has a cat named Shadow. It's like the "cool" version of "Socks".

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

XD I know right? One of our friends also has a cat named shadow her's is a girl but his is a boy.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

My cat fought off a raccoon trying to get in through our screen door. She succeeded in keeping it out but it left her blind in one eye.

9 years ago | Likes 47 Dislikes 0

Your cat deserve a medal. Raccoon can be the meanest when they're "lean" luckily there's less and less rabies cases but still.

9 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 0

I don't have a gif of a cat getting a medal so... http://imgur.com/TG5Uv47

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

/a/Cuuxx Sorry for crappy pics. My old laptop crapped out and I'm still in the process of recovering my files.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

pls send pic of cat

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

/a/Cuuxx

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

first pic looks like he's doubting what you're saying.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I don't even know if I could take down a raccoon, and I'm a grown adult

9 years ago | Likes 24 Dislikes 0

ikr? those fuckers are mean!

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Well Otis was a grown adult too, he just happened to be more badass than you are.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

The bar is set pretty low

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Likely - humans are one of the most dangerous critters around. Stamina+strength+dexterity

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

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9 years ago (deleted Dec 3, 2016 3:53 AM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

Alpha Otis, that's why.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

A 22lb cat, fully clawed, raised outdoors, and on the hunt is probably pound for pound one of the most effective and nasty killing machines.

9 years ago | Likes 62 Dislikes 0

Which explain the mass extinctions in New Zealand and other places they were introduced

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Pure catting.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

22 pound of cat....

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Some raccoons are huge. It depends where you live. When I lived in California they were tiny. But I'm sure the one he took down wasn't.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Cats are mean motherfuckers when you get down to it, and they're one of the few animals with multiple ways of killing you. They scare bears.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

By being huger and meaner.

9 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 0

he's 22 pounds

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

Same way cats take other prey. Close or puncture the throat.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

He intimidated huskies. For. A. Reason.

9 years ago | Likes 333 Dislikes 0

This sounds extremely familiar.... Y tho?

9 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 1

My friends cats hunted, killed and ate their neighbours dog. A full-sized labbie.

9 years ago | Likes 29 Dislikes 2

Holy shit!

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm not gonna lie, or try to brag, but my cat saved me from a bear.

9 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

At 10 kg he's as strong as a 20kg dog. so a 12kg raccoon is basically lunch. Cats are dangerous from nose to rear paws, unlike most animals.

9 years ago | Likes 184 Dislikes 2

Would upvote but there's 69 upvotes

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It seems someone already pushed it past. But thank you.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Well then have it +1

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Wait, what's dangerous about the nose?

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

The teeth are riiiight underneath it.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

The teeth are right below it

9 years ago | Likes 46 Dislikes 1

Goddamn, beat me to it. Didn't even see. You stealthy motherfucker.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

it smells you like a russian radar dish spots a U-2 trying to sneak by..

9 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 0

That damn Bono trying to sneak by

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Damned straight.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

My old 17 year old (smallish) cat once took down and dragged home a river rat longer than she was. Not a scratch on her

9 years ago | Likes 84 Dislikes 1

4) cornered a tom twice her size in my bathroom (naughty breaky-and-entery mraowrs). She looked so proud of herself :-) little tomboy cat.

9 years ago | Likes 39 Dislikes 3

mraowrs. I like that.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

1) Cat musculature is all instant, all fast twitch. They cope with the lower lung volume than dogs by simply taking breaks between exertions

9 years ago | Likes 50 Dislikes 0

2) but most animal combat isn't a drawn out affair. It's not boxing. Cats have little difficulty in killing *anything* up to 50% heavier.

9 years ago | Likes 48 Dislikes 0

3) and my mraowr still hunts, despite missing so many teeth (they were gone before she moved in, damage from being mistreated). She's

9 years ago | Likes 36 Dislikes 1

I had a cat bring home a dead bobcat once. It was terrifying

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

Woah. I have so many questions

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

He found it dead on the road

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

idk, catching hummingbirds seems more impressive to me

9 years ago | Likes 83 Dislikes 2

The half wild barn cats around my grandma's farm learned to stake out hummingbird feeders years ago. Had to start hanging them higher.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I was also impressed until I started reading these comments. Hummingbirds don't sound too smart...

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

My cat catches hummingbirds once in a while and she's a fuckin' ditz.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Mine catches hummingbirds. They are intensely curious birds and they don't seem to be afraid of her, stopping to watch her too close.

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

*I should mention, my cat is a slow, fat indoor cat who doesn't hunt.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The only birds my cat caught were hummingbirds and she caught three of them. Felt bad every time. (Me, not the cat)

9 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 0

Same, two of our cats managed that, one of them more than once. And one time, brought a very-much-not-dead one inside.

9 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

A zoologist grad allowing his cat to fuck with the local wild life! Da fuq dude. Put a god damned bell on your cats! Everyone.

9 years ago | Likes 122 Dislikes 37

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9 years ago (deleted Mar 4, 2020 3:36 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

I didn't say I supported those things. I believe in cutting down on paper combined with greening power. And so on. Also like native fauna.

9 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 2

We made multiple attempts with bells and he got them all off. We tried keeping him inside and he went crazy.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 3

Unless you live in an area with no wildlife to speak of, save the usual suburban pests. There's no need to cry about sparrows and mice.

9 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 13

What? No! Ecosystems are built atop the lowest layers! Sparrows and mice are eaten by owls and hawks and snakes and... Everything!

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 3

Yes, and they are plentiful beyond measure.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

No, they aren't. Biomass in an ecosystem is replenished yet temporally finite. Every kill a cat makes expands the amount of time that (1)

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

offspring. In other words, cats have a definite and marked effect on the local ecosystem, even if they aren't wiping out the prey. (3)

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Of course they have an effect. That is blatantly obvious to the point that it's a waste of time to remark on it. It's still a non-issue.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

other predators must spend looking for meals, reducing their overall caloric intake and decreasing time spent mating or raising (2)

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Who am I to deny wild instincts.

9 years ago | Likes 42 Dislikes 61

I hope you do or there's a good chance you've murdered someone.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

A zoologist that understands the destructive impact of an invasive species?

9 years ago | Likes 32 Dislikes 5

You're a fucking irresponsible cat owner. Stop pretending you have lions and treat them like cats. Protect them and the local fauna.

9 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 4

My pack of five parson russell terriers has wild instincts too, can I let them out to hunt cats and other animals all day?

9 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 1

My jack russel runs away from birds. We had a few before though that were mighty little fuckery to hunt

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Dude, what? You're a zoology grad and you don't have the sense to put a bell on outdoor cats? Otis is gone now, but bell-up your others.

9 years ago | Likes 43 Dislikes 7

Well six cans a day it's not very wild, isn't it?

9 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 3

Yeah, either it eats its kills or it's pointless destruction, even if it is impressive.

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

Great cat man, glad you let him roam.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 4

Also maybe someone who wanted their cat to live longer than a fraction of their p ossible life expectancy, too. Outdoor cats are wrong.

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 7

you are wrong

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 5

I dunno mate. All our cats are outdoor cats and I think 15 - 22 is a long life for a cat.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 4

You won't be denying wild instincts. With a bell, wild life gets a fighting chance. Cats are great, but do a lot of harm to wild life.

9 years ago | Likes 48 Dislikes 18

Except for that part where the cat won't be able to kill anything.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 9

That's the point, chum.

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

The cat won't be rewarded for hunting, it's instincts will be denied.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

Well he's gone now. We are remembering, not reprimanding. Shuddup.

9 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 21

He also has other cats so it does apply.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

You're mistaken or in denial, we're certainly reprimanding.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

No more harm than if they were already wild themselves .__.

9 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 18

That is like saying "don't cut the weeds hurting my garden, the weeds are wild!" Besides, cats are introduced usually, not natural.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Idk. Did you read the rest of the replies before posting that

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

True. But they are not. And with a simple bell we can have a win win.

9 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 11

You're not wrong. Then again there are still feral cats. For the most part I don't think it changes much. I can't speak for fact though so.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 6