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Medieval period was madness
Oct 8, 2023 10:06 PM
Joyika
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CarmenUtrecht01
Burke616
"street dust" can mean "gutters a foot deep in half-liquid shit" in this context.
Manhoarder
17th century... "mud and street dust" ahah sure. Conveniently forgetting about literal feces in said mud.
LustrousShadow
I've often heard that couples wouldn't actually hold hands, but would have the woman resting her hand on top of her date's hand. With these, I suspect she'd have been resting her hand on top of her date's head.
hushpuppyextraordinaire
My first read was this is some kind of horrible device for the medieval woman’s period.
Fritzy19
In medieval times, different regions had prostitutes identify themselves in different ways. Some were required to wear striped hoods in a certain color, others wore shoes like these. Wealthy woman thought they were cool, and started wearing similar ones too. Fun fact
ExistentialDreadlocks
Shorter dresses...?
missojennie
dedpan
and I thought modern platforms looked stupid
zubax
This made more sense than to wear a shorter dress. Because, by God if the maen see an ankle.
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Well there was often a heady mixture of mud and piss and shit in the streets, so they didn't want their shoes right in it. The easiest solution would have been to wear men's clothes, pants and high boots. But of course women couldn't be allowed to wear sensible clothing like that.
MendoncycleSmith
Geez, Ron Desantis would pay handsomely for these...
gorillaClutch
"Mud and street dust" = shit and piss.
Gryphonosiris
Came here to say just that.
pixelsnader
Those look very difficult to play piano with, so why did that Chopine guy do it?
metalrulercid
They were used by women, now it's Ron de santos who wears them
SavageDrums
These would help my wife reach the pedals in the car...
q2grapple
Then they ended up in Harajuku as giant lift sneakers
chewybrian
Don't make me get all medieval on your ass!
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ratfinkfuck
*k-tnk k-tnk k-tnk k-tnk*
MrsF1nch
There is an actual medieval version of this, worn as a sandal over the shoe to keep the shoes from deteriorating too quickly as well as keeping them clean(er). They're called "trips" or "trippen" this is what they look like.
Cthulhuonabike
Seems like they could have hemmed the dresses a bit shorter
AlkeneThiol
They weren't typically that tall. That's like the "high fashion" version, taken to an extreme.
https://web.archive.org/web/20090929103144/http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~ebernhar/index.shtml
And the mud thing is not consistent with historical understandings
https://www.collectorsweekly.com/articles/these-chopines-werent-made-for-walking/
jeejeejerrycotton
Didn't click but I think anyone who has ever walked in mud could tell right off the bat you do NOT walk in mud in anything resembling the things in the OP. I don't mean you have a choice, I mean you just aren't able to.
WoofBastard
Very interesting, thanks for posting!
OphelianAshe
Very high fashion
AlkeneThiol
No idea how I failed to make this pun myself. Well done
Emrys12
Lol are you implying that someone lied on the internet?
purplespaghetty
Thank you for posting! Looks like you had to do some digging for those!
stonebreaker6
Those look super comfy and easy to walk in
MeshHatMafia
Was wearing shorter dresses out of the question?
AsABiologistWhoIsNotFunAtParties
*clutches pearls* get those sinful thoughts out of your head!
sorrynobanana
Street poop
OhIfIMust
Gryphonosiris
What is this from?
OhIfIMust
The Taming of the Shrew, the one by Franco Zeffirelli & starring Richard Burton & Elizabeth Taylor.
Lyconous
Keep in mind, the average height of women during this time frame was under 5ft. Most men were under 5ft6, too
RummageSaleBubbler
For comparison...
itsjustplaid
Did he spray paint clown shoes?
DidItForScience
That spells insecure which dovetails nicely with his power mad authoritarianism.
davethesailor
It is also fitting that the clown wear clown shoes. Should almost be a social requirement for clowns.
newsguycraigevans
Burgundee
Rhonda wishes he could pull off high heels as well as drag queens. But he has to settle for big floppy clown boots.
dorenavant
Ron and his laughable boots.
ChainmailleAddict
I love how the fascism doesn't dissuade voters but the silly appearance and bobble head stuff does
DropDrop
It's insane to me that people are prepping to, or officially running for president of the united states, and showing up to places the press will be, without having their outfit looked over by a stylist. For fucks sake, they spend millions running, but show up to stuff looking like clowns. No wonder it's always Hollywood actors like Reagan and Trump who beat the rest of GOP. Fuck! Is he wearing his own merch?! Is his name on his own fucking vest?! I'm not even on their team and I'm embarrassed.
trueunpopularopinions
Japan has geta for the same purpose. Their history dates back to Liangzhu culture (3400–2250 BCE).
spiceass9000
The learning curve to walk in those must be pretty challenging
missojennie
Gantzz321
I would wear those if I could touch my feet.
DaftTechno
IIRC, the high, single plank version seen here are specifically Tengu Geta.
Adderkleet2
Yep. Merchant geta are tall ones. Tengu geta are single-plank... and I don't think they serve any purpose other than being stylish for birdmen.
nagesagi
I was told that geta were for handling the rocky terrain that covers most of Japan. Though those have 2 wooden slots that are 2-3 inches that touch the ground instead a single long one like that.
RandyRandalman
I feel like the need for these could have been avoided by say, maybe not have your garment go all the way down to the freakin ground?
ChicagRealt0r
Fashion isn't logical. Remember jinco jeans? Good luck not having them wet halfway up your shins if it rained or was still wet outside. You could just have them be a little shorter but then you'd look like a dork. I'm told they're coming back in style.
MantisTobagganMD
And risk the sighting of an ankle? Are you mad?
onlyhalfghost
in both cases, it's less the hiding ankles (especially in Japan) and more that "street dust" = piss and shit.
witalaska4
ProppaGanda
"medieval" generally ends in the 15th century (depending of course where and how you count, can be extended to the beginning of the 16th - but it definitely doesn't include the 17th century)
Gwego
In French schools, the "official" date we learn is 1492.
TiroDvD
Thank you. Only in about the past 5 years I've awakend to the difference between Medieval and Early Modern. E.g. if there are buttons it's not Medieval .
ProppaGanda
Mostly. They were more often ornamental; still, for example in Sweden buttons were fairly popular in the 14th century.
dogfavoriter
Ruderali
Middle ages is any time before decent wifi. I have spoken.
Pyrokitchen
And if you see laser raptors, that clearly indicates it is Viking Age.
pixelsnader
I thought middle ages was like... forties...
ProppaGanda
As long as nobody calls it "dark ages"
KvitrafnMuninn
That'd be the "now" in my book, so yes, i agree.
TricksForDays
You mean the deluminated era?
VioletCatastrophe
Yeah, I personally would call the early 15th century the end of the period. Battles like Agincourt and Golden Spurs marked the end of the dominance of cavalry that gave the nobility its power, and the black death killed so many that it enabled the poor to pressure for more autonomy. By the 16th century, so much has already changed, including the discovery of the Americas.
Ruderali
Were talking China here. Decent chunk of it was indistinguishable from the middle ages until late 20th century
ProppaGanda
The entire European classification has no bearing in China. There is a reason why they count by dynasties.
Exsul
I'd argue that it was the nailing of the 95 Theses in 1515 that marks the end of the Middle Ages. The Middle Ages are defined by the single, all-encompassing power of the Church in Europe. No Christian sect was able to fight against them. Only the Protestant Revolution broke that, and it is for that reason I subscribe to the 1515 end date.
tirohtar
1517. 95 theses was in 1517.
VioletCatastrophe
Yeah, I can get behind that too. Though arguably the power of the church had been waning up to that point too. A good example of a pre-Lutherian movement would be the Hussites in the 15th century. The pre-reformation period is marked by numerous heresies that never really caught on. The reformation however had the printing press behind it, letting information be disseminated. All in all, its a messy mix of empowered commoners, waning nobility, waning church, and the rise of absolutism.
ProppaGanda
Now, for actual medieval fashion, this was the funky shoes, 14th century, originated in Kraków, Poland, spread like a wildfire across Europe, caused moral outrage, got banned by many realms.
TricksForDays
Ah yes. Ye ol flop socks. The skoo shoe, disgracer of clowns.
RevolutionOnHerLips
you know what they say about men with long feet
tentacularfleshscape
Knee chains
Quisibinomenimposuit
Looks like a drawing by Dr. Seuss
Totallyscrewedinaustin
I wanna know more about the chains on their knees
MileysVirus
They're "kneechains"...you know, like Keychains but for your knees
Swordbian
To hold up the toe points when you didn't want them getting in the way
TricksForDays
More lies told by big shoe
tentacularfleshscape
Lmao